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Pabs Sco
Caldari
Ecosse
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:34:00 -
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I've been thinking about the point of killboards for a while and I hav ecome to some conclusions..
1) Never Trust any info on them, killmails can be faked
2) Never trust any info on them, losses are hardly posted
3) People like to killmail *****, I.e. dont work as a team (always leading to a question, so who is going to scout? ....deadly silence...scouts rarely get on killmails)
The only whay Killboards would work would to have a centralised Killboard, where killmails are automatically sent there from ingame.
So what do you think? 
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Demon Womb
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:36:00 -
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Ego Trip
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Dakkon Maletu
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:36:00 -
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You are just jealous because you have less killboard points than me.
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Pabs Sco
Caldari
Ecosse
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Dakkon Maletu
You are just jealous because you have less killboard points than me.
I only posted on my ex-alliance boards.....
what are killboard points
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Cabadrin
Caldari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:41:00 -
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Edited by: Cabadrin on 02/11/2006 12:41:12
They show employers how much damage we've inflicted on our contract. In addition, we keep our losses 100% accurate.
http://coalition.killboard.net
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Ephemeron
Pelennor Swarm
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:42:00 -
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and while we are at it.. what's the point of keeping score in basketball or soccer?
players should just enjoy the game and not worry about who scores more points!
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
and while we are at it.. what's the point of keeping score in basketball or soccer?
players should just enjoy the game and not worry about who scores more points!
You mean you win Eve by getting more points kills?
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Pabs Sco
Caldari
Ecosse
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Cabadrin
THey show employers how much damage we've inflicted on our contract. In addition, we keep our losses 100% accurate.
http://coalition.killboard.net
Well sinc eyou can not prove the accuracy of a killmail, killboards can be fiction.
But...reputation is key and you guys are well known. So I guess employers fully entrusdt your board 
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Glumpumpkin
House Elf Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:44:00 -
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If you're frequently defending your territory against the same hostiles, killboards provide you meaningful intel about the targets they pursue, the ships they fly, and the times they fly them.
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Pabs Sco
Caldari
Ecosse
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Pabs Sco on 02/11/2006 12:46:22
Originally by: Ephemeron
and while we are at it.. what's the point of keeping score in basketball or soccer?
players should just enjoy the game and not worry about who scores more points!
You miss the point.
Basketball/Soccer etc.. all have an "end", therefor you need to know who "wins".
Eve has no "end".
Originally by: Glumpumpkin
If you're frequently defending your territory against the same hostiles, killboards provide you meaningful intel about the targets they pursue, the ships they fly, and the times they fly them.
This is true, suppose "kkillboard" term is wrong for this, maybe "Intel Board" 
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Simon Illian
Caldari
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:48:00 -
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Intel tools for gather intel abotu you'r hostile, if you'r see you'r kb like taht :
=> you post you'r loose to gather intel about their weapon
=> you post you'r kill to gather intel about their weapon
=> You don't post faked Kill to distrub the intel gather
or maybe it's an e-peen mesurement :p
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Tehyarec
Silverleaf Foundation
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:55:00 -
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Everyone has different reasons. I have my own private killboard in which I keep track of my kills and deaths, just to track how I'm faring in the PVP area of things  So far so good, mostly 
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Skokeh
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:59:00 -
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The point of them is to keep accurate records of whats been done, usually to remind the stoner pirates what they forgot 2 hours before.
As with the FZN killboard, its all credited to the total pilots anyway. And as said on our site, if you dispute any of the facts they are happy to discuss it
I could not understand people who would fake a kill report, no-one else really cares so you are just fooling yourselves really.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.02 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Pabs Sco
The only whay Killboards would work would to have a centralised Killboard, where killmails are automatically sent there from ingame.
God no.
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Pabs Sco
Caldari
Ecosse
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Posted - 2006.11.02 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Pabs Sco
The only whay Killboards would work would to have a centralised Killboard, where killmails are automatically sent there from ingame.
God no.
and why??
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Waut
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.11.02 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pabs Sco
So what do you think?
They give a good overview on how a war is going, what your enemies style is and what they like to fly/fit.
It's also a great tool for ****waving contests in-corp
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Zoxia
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2006.11.02 13:10:00 -
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Since its all just data that collected out of game it can be forged and/or manipulated rather easily. I see most of the reason behind them to have a way to post "HEY look what I did!!" or " Man I am UBER!!".
It usually involves the PVP, PKing, PPKing crowds only. Its kinda like HALO where the winner is the guy with the most kills.
for the most part its to stoke the image ;)
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.02 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Pabs Sco
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Pabs Sco
The only whay Killboards would work would to have a centralised Killboard, where killmails are automatically sent there from ingame.
God no.
and why??
Because then eve will become counter strike in space and well have people all over the place going "oomfg lollerskates rtofl ur the n00b wit ur 4.5 ratio i r have a 10.5 and r then mor el33wt, HARRHARR PEW PEW n00b ROFL SKATES".
So no thanks, at least now all killboards are fairly spread so there is no global ranking charts that people can use to stroke their ego.
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Entarel Helfir
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.02 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Entarel Helfir on 02/11/2006 13:14:45
Killboards are an intelligence tool.
They give me information on the types of ships a person usually flies and the fitting they use, and where they hang around often.
They tell me in which parts of space corps and alliances operate, who their covops/dictor/battleship/capital ship pilots are, who I have to look out for.
They help judging the efficiency of current operations and planing of new ones.
Killpoints on boards are an e-peen waving tool and are absolutely unnecessary.
And concerning manipulating data : That's why our board is private, and will stay that way.
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Pabs Sco
Caldari
Ecosse
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Posted - 2006.11.02 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zoxia
Since its all just data that collected out of game it can be forged and/or manipulated rather easily. I see most of the reason behind them to have a way to post "HEY look what I did!!" or " Man I am UBER!!".
It usually involves the PVP, PKing, PPKing crowds only. Its kinda like HALO where the winner is the guy with the most kills.
for the most part its to stoke the image ;)
So you have the same thoughts as me
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.02 13:13:00 -
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The point is to make people feel like they are good at Eve. The problem is that the killboard doesnt show that. :)
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.02 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
The point is to make people feel like they are good at Eve. The problem is that the killboard doesnt show that. :)
If people need a killboard to feel being "good" at eve then they obviously arent.
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.02 14:24:00 -
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If you want to know who your corp killed check your killboard.
If you want to know who got killed check your enemies killboard.
There will always be tards who dont post their deathmails.
As for a central board I think this would be a good thing provided that you stats are visible to only you or your corp. A global public kilboards will indeed give rise to more imatture monkies who wave their epeen at you.
But it still doesent matter, I can think of several kills just off the top of my head that I didnt get on the mail for due to being the scout, and one for sure that I was in on but didnt show up due to the mail being truncated...and that was a Thanatos!
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Pabs Sco
Caldari
Ecosse
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Posted - 2006.11.02 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Noluck Ned
If you want to know who your corp killed check your killboard.
If you want to know who got killed check your enemies killboard.
There will always be tards who dont post their deathmails.
As for a central board I think this would be a good thing provided that you stats are visible to only you or your corp. A global public kilboards will indeed give rise to more imatture monkies who wave their epeen at you.
But it still doesent matter, I can think of several kills just off the top of my head that I didnt get on the mail for due to being the scout, and one for sure that I was in on but didnt show up due to the mail being truncated...and that was a Thanatos!
Ah..good idea, a cetralised killboard but not public would be great. Meaning you can check on your own corp, and you can guarentee the kills ar enot faked if its all done by CCP.
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Araxmas
Caldari
Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.02 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Araxmas on 02/11/2006 14:58:23
Quite like the idea of that centralized gizmo thingy. Only prob would be if it had the killboard points thingy as i tend to enjoy loosing my ships on one man crusades at concord.
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