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Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.11.07 23:47:00 - [31] The religious zeal, Manifest Destiny/The Reclaiming, the notion that everyone must be rescued to american style democracy/slavery, I think the shoe fits. If I want to take it further? No, this is a game about what became of people once on earth. Convert Stations
Georg Inekn	Posted - 2003.11.08 00:26:00 - [32] Quote: Amarr - Damn Yanks - act all rightous but over look the fact that many of their people are illitarate right wing biggots /me hands you an ass hat. If you're going to accuse an entire nation of being "illitarate," you might want to take care to spell the word correctly. Does the extra g in bigot stand for "look at me, I'm a moron"? Don't feel too bad, you almost got righteous correct. A+ on all the three letter words, though. Well done!
Moph	Posted - 2003.11.08 00:37:00 - [33] Minmatars for sure are not jews. Totally diffrent 'religion', and culture. More comparable to a mix between muslims (from before the prophet Mahometh ever came) and btw it is stupid topic, it should not be compared like this, becose there's no comparison. Caldari have nothing to do with Sparta, just because they are militaristic. It's a corporate state; a political fiction, something some political scientist really predict that can happen (a new political system, next after democracy, or parallel) Also Amarr have totally nothing to do with Romans, because of their religion, culture and political system and way of thinking. Only that they use slaves.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.11.08 00:43:00 - [34] Japan already is moving towards corporations being fifedoms or am I reading them wrong? Convert Stations
Xander Teg	Posted - 2003.11.08 03:13:00 - [35] Edited by: Xander Teg on 08/11/2003 03:16:25 Quote: Quote: Amarr - Damn Yanks - act all rightous but over look the fact that many of their people are illitarate right wing biggots /me hands you an ass hat. If you're going to accuse an entire nation of being "illitarate," you might want to take care to spell the word correctly. Does the extra g in bigot stand for "look at me, I'm a moron"? Don't feel too bad, you almost got righteous correct. A+ on all the three letter words, though. Well done! Damn, someone just got owned. Here are my thoughts: Amar: Monarchy/Dictatorship, Religous Zeal, and concept of race superiority. -Ancient Egypt, definately. Minmatar: tribal, oppressed, tenacious -Hebrew nation, and the 7 tribes of Isreal Gallente: democracy, diversity, and equality -Modern day Europe. Caldari: Pure Capitalists, Militant, money loving -Modern day US - spends 400 billion dollars a year on defense. #2 Russia spends 65. Aprox 80% of all engineering students will work on defense R&D over the course of their careers. There are hundreds of private corporations that are defense contractors. For the top 100 click here. And while i concede Japan is slightly ahead of the US in the pure capitalism department, if you don't think the major corporations in the US exert a solid measure of control the government... /emotesnickers _________________ "For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack." -Rudyard Kipling
Asimir Kurdugal	Posted - 2003.11.08 04:13:00 - [36] Quote: Minmatar: tribal, oppressed, tenacious -Hebrew nation, and the 7 tribes of Isreal I've always thought of the Minmatar of being more like the Native Americans then anything else. ________________________________________________ Moving again, comfort of the chase Now and again, this my saving grace Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove Keep me alive and give me something to lose I've been gone so long, but I will come back I will come back for you
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.11.08 04:24:00 - [37] I am sooooo not touching this topic I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Raukorya	Posted - 2003.11.08 04:37:00 - [38] Quote: Quote: Amarr - Damn Yanks - act all rightous but over look the fact that many of their people are illitarate right wing biggots /me hands you an ass hat. If you're going to accuse an entire nation of being "illitarate," you might want to take care to spell the word correctly. Does the extra g in bigot stand for "look at me, I'm a moron"? Don't feel too bad, you almost got righteous correct. A+ on all the three letter words, though. Well done! Heh, hypocrisy at its best (or worst....) I guess I see them as: Amarr- Romans (enslaving, life for the emperor, holier than thou, ect) Gallentene- Kinda a mix between Western European and American (Freedom, democracy, all that stuff) Caldari- I think of Germans, but thats probably just because of a popular stereotype... I can't see them as being Americans, because as an American myself, I think we are too lazy to be Caldari Minmatar- I guess I would say the Jewish people, except without the religious aspect. Just the fact that they were enslaved and abused so many times in history... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If there is a such thing as too much power, i have yet to discover it.
Slithereen	Posted - 2003.11.08 04:40:00 - [39] Edited by: Slithereen on 08/11/2003 04:49:03 Amarr = Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire located in Constantinople); any empire with snootish, right wing, bigoted beliefs, e.g. Great Britain, right wing America, Romans, medieval Germany (Holy Roman Empire), Austro-Hungarian Empire, Czarist Russia, Germany under Bismark, etc,. Minmatar = Third world countries, Africans, South East Asians, South Americans, Jamaicans and hip hop rappers and gangstas. Gallanteans = French, liberal America, plus a bit of Italy and Spain. Caldari = modern Japan; Sparta, Venitian city states at the time of Machiavelli. _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
Maud Dib	Posted - 2003.11.08 17:09:00 - [40] A couple of questions if I may. One I have seen right wing used as a negative description several times here. Now I don't have a problem with that but I want to kow why left wing is never used as a negative. I mean both right and left are used to show that they are on the radical sides of an issue. Left wing zealots do as much damage as right wing ones so why the bias? Second I have seen a few post saying american aren't tolerent and generally being snide to americans. I so far haven't seen any posts of americans attacking other countries so isn't that a little ironic at the least. You should be poud of what ever country you are from.
Andrew Jade	Posted - 2003.11.08 17:33:00 - [41] Quote: Edited by: Slithereen on 08/11/2003 04:49:03 Amarr = ... right wing, bigoted beliefs, e.g. Great Britain, right wing America, Romans, medieval Germany (Holy Roman Empire), Austro-Hungarian Empire, Czarist Russia, Germany under Bismark, etc,. WTF. Er and may i ask which country your from with a few like that? -AJ- WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2003.11.08 19:00:00 - [42] Quote: I am sooooo not touching this topic agreed... Zezman how can you not know that this topic is a bad idea. *kicks Zezman of his top 5 list __________ Capacitor research
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.11.08 22:36:00 - [43] 'Cause the general conception is rightwingers taking care of #1, leftwingers looking after more than just themselves. Wrap it up in a fancy essay and call it a manifest, that's what it boils down to over here. Convert Stations
Beringe	Posted - 2003.11.08 23:00:00 - [44] Quote: I am sooooo not touching this topic Agreed. The races have actually rather few true comparsions with real life nations. Except if you go explicitly looking for them. I never liked allegory much, beyond Animal Farm. The joke is so often on the writer of said allegory. ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead." "No, it's none of your business."
Lyzander	Posted - 2003.11.08 23:07:00 - [45] Edited by: Lyzander on 08/11/2003 23:07:41 Although I've always thought of the Caldari as being most like the Japanese, the comparison to the Spartans has a certain appeal... (check my name) CME Forums EVE-I
Zakalwe	Posted - 2003.11.08 23:33:00 - [46] Edited by: Zakalwe on 08/11/2003 23:34:43 I was laughing when i read description of Eve's races... Laughing because in my country talking about 'race' is awful and consider you as 'racist'... All that to come at Gallente 'race' in Eve. Really in french it is 'galant': old french 'galer' which means 'enjoying, amusing' ( those words comes from french too as 50%english) about girls : being polite, 'prevenant' etc... I laughing more when i saw the description of 'French' Gallente ... "Descendants of Tau Ceti Frenchmen, the Gallenteans remain strong believers in free will and human rights, despite numerous setbacks in their long history." Free will ? Lol, France is the land of carebear communists/leftists/islamists. Human rights ? Lol again : Sadddam is better than liberty.. Thats the Gallente in RL.. Hmmm... Dan Simmons Hyperion and Iain.M.Banks Culture Novels : for SF Connoisseurs only
Kalki Nibiru	Posted - 2003.11.09 00:19:00 - [47] You know what makes me smile? All of the centrists and conservatives and what they want and say. Liberalism and Socialism is the future. Conservatism isnt bad, it just slows progress. Look at the past, look how much worse things were. What we have today in our democracies across the world is from Liberalism. Remember, the United States of America was founded as a liberal democracy, if they wanted conservatism they would have stayed as a colony of England. Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.11.09 00:28:00 - [48] Quote: Quote: I am sooooo not touching this topic Agreed. The races have actually rather few true comparsions with real life nations. Except if you go explicitly looking for them. I never liked allegory much, beyond Animal Farm. The joke is so often on the writer of said allegory. Unfortunately people don't seem to get the message and it'll take one of them getting seriously bent out of shape for them to get it. Here's one of those strange things that illustrates what you said pretty well: Do a Google search for these words: "Disney" "boycott" "Lion King" I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Slithereen	Posted - 2003.11.09 00:36:00 - [49] To clarity, Amarr = more like the British Empire in the 18th to 19th century, all pompous, colonizing the Third World and taking slaves from Africa. Today's Great Britain is more like the Gallente. Minmatar = Much of the Third World that has broken away from them ever since. Khanid and Ammatar = Breakaway and independent colonies that still owe some allegiance with Great Britain. I think this pertains to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
Lyzander	Posted - 2003.11.09 02:53:00 - [50] Khanid and Ammatar are very different: Ammatar: Minmatar-descendent Amarr loyalists Khanid: Dark Amarr, enemies of the Amarr Empire due to their break away from the empire So if Amarr is Britain, I suppose any commonwealth country could be the Ammatar, and the Americans Khanid (in a way) CME Forums EVE-I
Indigo Seqi	Posted - 2003.11.09 11:29:00 - [51] Can everybody please pull the huge nationalism-enscribed ***** from their asses and start acting like reasonable people again please? Thank you very much.
Tassadar Beta	Posted - 2003.11.09 12:08:00 - [52] If anything the Amarrians are like the Japanese in culture. If anyone actually took the time to look properly they would see the distinct charateristics. The Amarrians believe their emperor is a god, the japanese up until present had an emperor and believed he was a god. Combine this with their religous fevour and ritual suicide then its easy to see the likeness. Of course this can be taken from ww2 and back but not the present, as the Japanese only had soldiers as slaves during ww2. Who said it has to be from modern culture ;). The other empires have their distinct cultural links can you guess what they are .
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2003.11.09 12:10:00 - [53] Quote: To clarity, Amarr = more like the British Empire in the 18th to 19th century, all pompous, colonizing the Third World and taking slaves from Africa. Today's Great Britain is more like the Gallente. Minmatar = Much of the Third World that has broken away from them ever since. Khanid and Ammatar = Breakaway and independent colonies that still owe some allegiance with Great Britain. I think this pertains to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. The last country to break away from the British Empire was in 1776. _______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age."
Andrew Jade	Posted - 2003.11.09 12:11:00 - [54] Quote: To clarity, Amarr = more like the British Empire in the 18th to 19th century, all pompous, colonizing the Third World and taking slaves from Africa. Today's Great Britain is more like the Gallente. Okay. -AJ- WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2003.11.09 12:12:00 - [55] Quote: Thats the Gallente in RL.. No it ain't. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE GALLENTE IN RL. THIS IS A GAME. In fact, if you'd bothered to read the info on Gallente you would have seen that it also says, "although any obvious resemblances have long since vanished." So comparing them to the present-day French is a very stupid thing to do. _______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age."
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.11.09 12:22:00 - [56] OMG MINMATAR ARE NOT JEWS. DIEPLSKTHXBYE. Caldari are japanese Amarr are like... romans. Gallente are like french but better (or worse?) Minmatar are OBVIOUSLY africans. omg jews. omg the horror the horror. -
Maud Dib	Posted - 2003.11.09 14:24:00 - [57] Quote: 'Cause the general conception is rightwingers taking care of #1, leftwingers looking after more than just themselves. Wrap it up in a fancy essay and call it a manifest, that's what it boils down to over here. Yeah but it's just perception both left and right wingers are out of themselves the only diference is what they what. Political parties and political groups exist for one reason to perpetuate themselves period. They are just another kind of big corporation.
Maud Dib	Posted - 2003.11.09 14:27:00 - [58] Quote: You know what makes me smile? All of the centrists and conservatives and what they want and say. Liberalism and Socialism is the future. Conservatism isnt bad, it just slows progress. Look at the past, look how much worse things were. What we have today in our democracies across the world is from Liberalism. Remember, the United States of America was founded as a liberal democracy, if they wanted conservatism they would have stayed as a colony of England. /me thinks of big list of things people have said was the future...then laughs.. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't but nobody on this board knows either way.
Sarkos	Posted - 2003.11.09 14:46:00 - [59] Well, I for one refuse to bring any nationalism and political dispute to a game board. BABYLON 5 ------------------------------ Minmatar = Narn. Once conquered people. Amarr = Earth Alliance. The religious factions liking to Psi Corp. Caldari = Drazi. Gallente = Centauri. Headonists. Jove = Mimbari Just my humble opinion. Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.11.09 14:56:00 - [60] the jove might be jews. yeah i think that fits. -

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