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Zezman
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:37:00 -
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I have just read the descriptions of the four races in Eve, and I have come to the conclusion that they are very similar to four groups of people in Earths past.
- Amarr - Romans
- Gallente - Athenians
- Caldari - Spartans
- Minmatar - Jews
The Amarr are the largest group, and held slaves. So were the Romans.
The Gallente focused on social hedonism, as did the inhabitants of Athens.
The Caldari are militaristic in their society, who more so than the people of Sparta?
The Minmatar have been enslaved and used thourough the past, as have the Jewish people.
I can't fit the Jovians into a comparison of Mediteranean peoples, perhaps they are from Abyssinia?
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Kilhu Emmek
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:48:00 -
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You've JUST read the description of the four races? Shame on you. 
The Amarr (to my mind, at least) are more like the Roman Empire, pre-Martin Luther Vatican, and various Ancient Egyptian dynasties all mixed together in a big slave-holding ball.
I've always thought of the Minmatar as a sort of a mix of European Jews, Gypsies, and American Plains Indians.
Of course, no offense meant to anyone from any of the above heritages or ethnicities (especially any Ancient Egyptians who happen to be reading the forums).
I think the Caldari are a little more profit-motivated than the Spartans were. Maybe a cross between the Spartans, mercantile Florence, Venice and/or Holland, and/or Krups-era Germany/Austro-Hungary.
Gallenteans as Athenians works pretty well, but the Greeks in general were a lot more "restrained" in their art and culture than the Gallenteans appear to be.
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:50:00 -
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Minmatar are jamaicans, mon
Jes ask da Hippey!
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:53:00 -
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Amarr - americans.
Gallente - europeans.
Caldari - russian/japanese.
Minmatar - africa/southeast asia.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:55:00 -
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"The Caldari are militaristic in their society, who more so than the people of Sparta?"
Dunno, the Caldari always felt very Japanese to me -- advanced technology, mega-corporations formed like keiretsu, dedication and conformity as the expected way of life, plus lil' trust towards the foreigners...
... and short Civire girls, obviously :s
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Dagny
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:58:00 -
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Caldari is all about ... what j0s said.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:03:00 -
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Danton are you joking?!?!
Amarr == Americans?!?! WTF?
I dont think you can really do this kind of comparison...
its more of a cultural thing than anything, but.
Gallente are like the European Union.
Amarr are like the old Societ Union (but replace communism with the Amarr religion)
Caldari are super militaristc capitalist - a sort of cross between the Japanese Zaibatsus and WWII era Germany.
Minmatar i think are something like the "gang/street" culture United states. Rebellious and counter culture.
thats my take on it, and how i've been looking at the various races.
(Jove are mutant freaks by the way)
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:11:00 -
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When i first had to decide what race to be back in may, i always thought the Caldari were based Japaneese, while the Gallante the Americans with their "freedom and only true democracy". Amarr, some ancient empire like the Romans while the Minmitar being sort of the 3rd world cultures all mixed togther.
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:12:00 -
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And yes Jove's beining just freaks 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:14:00 -
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Civire would be the concubines?
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:27:00 -
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Caldari is a mix of russians and italians! At least physically.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:31:00 -
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.... while the Gallante the Americans with their "freedom and only true democracy"...
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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Ivid
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:33:00 -
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I'll accept the gypsy comparison, but Jews?
I think not.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:35:00 -
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"Civire would be the concubines?"
... Could be, but i suspect they'd rather hunt down and shoot to pieces the foreign bustard, instead of stabbing themselves over him finding a new wench... O.o;
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:50:00 -
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.... while the Gallante the Americans with their "freedom and only true democracy"...
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Yes i thought it was funny aswell 
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Maedhros Iluvatar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Maedhros Iluvatar on 07/11/2003 20:13:34
Hm.. so no one here understands the Minmatar representing the Scandinavian people?..
Caldari are ofcourse the decentants of the (future) Chinese and the current Japanese. Amarrians can be no other than the Romans and the Gallenteans represent the offspring of both North America and western Europe.
I didn't look at any physical appearances since all of these different earth inhabitants moved to various planets, thus their appearance changed over time.
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:10:00 -
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Hm.. so no one here understands the Minmatar representing the Scandinavian people?..
They do? I dont see it but maybe if u explain your line of thinking.
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Maedhros Iluvatar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:19:00 -
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Hm.. the names are the most obvious I'd say. Also the Scandinavians have proved to be quite selfsuficient over time.... ah nevermind it all.. don't like the feeling of 'proving my point' since everyone has a different view on things ofcourse, this is just the way I've always felt about the Minmatar..
Maedhros out.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:34:00 -
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Ehm..
Caldari are obviously more like germans than anything else.
Just look at their ships/stations/gates, it's efficient, german engineering at its best.
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Zarwi
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Zarwi on 07/11/2003 20:44:17
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Amarr - americans.
Gallente - europeans.
Caldari - russian/japanese.
Minmatar - africa/southeast asia.
you must be a liberal, american hating, euro-weenie!
American's yes took part in Slavery, but so did
England,Spain,Italy, and well most of Europe. So don't go pinning that on Americans alone!
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Malikon
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:44:00 -
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zarwi-i'm an american and i think these people are looking at what america is doing now despite what happened 40 years ago. helping out 40 years ago doesn't justify an energy invasion today.
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Albar Gray
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Albar Gray on 07/11/2003 20:47:09
Either we didn't remember what happened 40 years ago, or we did, and remembered a lot more besides.
So that makes everyone about equal, somewhere near the bottom of the trash can
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Znaei
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Posted - 2003.11.07 22:23:00 -
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.... while the Gallante the Americans with their "freedom and only true democracy"...
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
So true... rofl!!
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ClawHammer III
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Posted - 2003.11.07 22:41:00 -
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People who compare America to Amarr are just plain stupid.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.11.07 22:59:00 -
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Actually. i can see a few similarities.
The idea of superiority -
the "God bless america" crap.
the cultural imperialism
yes there are similarities, but very watered down.
Amarr are more like the old Roman empire, or something like the old communist states.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:02:00 -
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People who compare America to Amarr are just plain stupid.
Replace "Amarr" with any race, and "America" with any present-day country, and you could reasonably say the same.
I can spend an hour working up a thoroughly convincing case that the Amarrians are EVE's representatives of the Americans of today. Or that the Caldari are. Or the Gallenteans. Or the Minmatar, if you prefer. There's enough similarity between any of the four and any present-day country that I could easily make that work for whichever prejudged belief you happen to hold.
Looking at the names should give us a clue to where the factions originally descended from - I think it's pretty clear Caldari from east asia, and we KNOW the Gallentean originated from a french-descended colony - but even in 8000AD when the colonies were first built, any similarities would have long since disappeared, and 14,000 more years of isolation? Forget it. Nobody is the eve "equivalent" of anybody.
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Alfius Togra
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:22:00 -
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I'm sorry but the definative comparison is as follows:
Amarr - Damn Yanks - act all rightous but over look the fact that many of their people are illitarate right wing biggots
Minmatar - Arabs, nice people who are villified by the former on the basis of terrorism etc so the whole world sees them all this way
Caldari - Germans hard working efficient down to earth and prone to periodic dreams of world domination
Gallente - French/Italian/Spanish - complete overdoits ..... but we luv em for it.
Jovians - Russians - frequently embarrasing the first lot of ppl and showing them up .... Sadly this has been toned down a bit in recent years.
argue and dispute all you like but im right and u know it =)
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:33:00 -
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Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:40:00 -
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Minmatar are jamaicans, mon
Jes ask da Hippey!
Bingo!
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:45:00 -
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You are disappointing me more and more Zezman.
I'm losing respect of you and your corp.
Stay real, keep on roleplaying
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