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Zezman
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:37:00 -
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I have just read the descriptions of the four races in Eve, and I have come to the conclusion that they are very similar to four groups of people in Earths past.
- Amarr - Romans
- Gallente - Athenians
- Caldari - Spartans
- Minmatar - Jews
The Amarr are the largest group, and held slaves. So were the Romans.
The Gallente focused on social hedonism, as did the inhabitants of Athens.
The Caldari are militaristic in their society, who more so than the people of Sparta?
The Minmatar have been enslaved and used thourough the past, as have the Jewish people.
I can't fit the Jovians into a comparison of Mediteranean peoples, perhaps they are from Abyssinia?
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Kilhu Emmek
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:48:00 -
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You've JUST read the description of the four races? Shame on you. 
The Amarr (to my mind, at least) are more like the Roman Empire, pre-Martin Luther Vatican, and various Ancient Egyptian dynasties all mixed together in a big slave-holding ball.
I've always thought of the Minmatar as a sort of a mix of European Jews, Gypsies, and American Plains Indians.
Of course, no offense meant to anyone from any of the above heritages or ethnicities (especially any Ancient Egyptians who happen to be reading the forums).
I think the Caldari are a little more profit-motivated than the Spartans were. Maybe a cross between the Spartans, mercantile Florence, Venice and/or Holland, and/or Krups-era Germany/Austro-Hungary.
Gallenteans as Athenians works pretty well, but the Greeks in general were a lot more "restrained" in their art and culture than the Gallenteans appear to be.
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:50:00 -
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Minmatar are jamaicans, mon
Jes ask da Hippey!
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:53:00 -
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Amarr - americans.
Gallente - europeans.
Caldari - russian/japanese.
Minmatar - africa/southeast asia.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:55:00 -
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"The Caldari are militaristic in their society, who more so than the people of Sparta?"
Dunno, the Caldari always felt very Japanese to me -- advanced technology, mega-corporations formed like keiretsu, dedication and conformity as the expected way of life, plus lil' trust towards the foreigners...
... and short Civire girls, obviously :s
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Dagny
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:58:00 -
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Caldari is all about ... what j0s said.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:03:00 -
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Danton are you joking?!?!
Amarr == Americans?!?! WTF?
I dont think you can really do this kind of comparison...
its more of a cultural thing than anything, but.
Gallente are like the European Union.
Amarr are like the old Societ Union (but replace communism with the Amarr religion)
Caldari are super militaristc capitalist - a sort of cross between the Japanese Zaibatsus and WWII era Germany.
Minmatar i think are something like the "gang/street" culture United states. Rebellious and counter culture.
thats my take on it, and how i've been looking at the various races.
(Jove are mutant freaks by the way)
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:11:00 -
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When i first had to decide what race to be back in may, i always thought the Caldari were based Japaneese, while the Gallante the Americans with their "freedom and only true democracy". Amarr, some ancient empire like the Romans while the Minmitar being sort of the 3rd world cultures all mixed togther.
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:12:00 -
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And yes Jove's beining just freaks 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:14:00 -
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Civire would be the concubines?
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:27:00 -
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Caldari is a mix of russians and italians! At least physically.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:31:00 -
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.... while the Gallante the Americans with their "freedom and only true democracy"...
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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Ivid
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:33:00 -
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I'll accept the gypsy comparison, but Jews?
I think not.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:35:00 -
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"Civire would be the concubines?"
... Could be, but i suspect they'd rather hunt down and shoot to pieces the foreign bustard, instead of stabbing themselves over him finding a new wench... O.o;
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:50:00 -
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.... while the Gallante the Americans with their "freedom and only true democracy"...
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Yes i thought it was funny aswell 
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Maedhros Iluvatar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Maedhros Iluvatar on 07/11/2003 20:13:34
Hm.. so no one here understands the Minmatar representing the Scandinavian people?..
Caldari are ofcourse the decentants of the (future) Chinese and the current Japanese. Amarrians can be no other than the Romans and the Gallenteans represent the offspring of both North America and western Europe.
I didn't look at any physical appearances since all of these different earth inhabitants moved to various planets, thus their appearance changed over time.
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:10:00 -
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Hm.. so no one here understands the Minmatar representing the Scandinavian people?..
They do? I dont see it but maybe if u explain your line of thinking.
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Maedhros Iluvatar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:19:00 -
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Hm.. the names are the most obvious I'd say. Also the Scandinavians have proved to be quite selfsuficient over time.... ah nevermind it all.. don't like the feeling of 'proving my point' since everyone has a different view on things ofcourse, this is just the way I've always felt about the Minmatar..
Maedhros out.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:34:00 -
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Ehm..
Caldari are obviously more like germans than anything else.
Just look at their ships/stations/gates, it's efficient, german engineering at its best.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Zarwi
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Zarwi on 07/11/2003 20:44:17
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Amarr - americans.
Gallente - europeans.
Caldari - russian/japanese.
Minmatar - africa/southeast asia.
you must be a liberal, american hating, euro-weenie!
American's yes took part in Slavery, but so did
England,Spain,Italy, and well most of Europe. So don't go pinning that on Americans alone!
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Malikon
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:44:00 -
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zarwi-i'm an american and i think these people are looking at what america is doing now despite what happened 40 years ago. helping out 40 years ago doesn't justify an energy invasion today.
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Albar Gray
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Albar Gray on 07/11/2003 20:47:09
Either we didn't remember what happened 40 years ago, or we did, and remembered a lot more besides.
So that makes everyone about equal, somewhere near the bottom of the trash can
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Znaei
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Posted - 2003.11.07 22:23:00 -
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.... while the Gallante the Americans with their "freedom and only true democracy"...
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
So true... rofl!!
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ClawHammer III
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Posted - 2003.11.07 22:41:00 -
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People who compare America to Amarr are just plain stupid.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.11.07 22:59:00 -
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Actually. i can see a few similarities.
The idea of superiority -
the "God bless america" crap.
the cultural imperialism
yes there are similarities, but very watered down.
Amarr are more like the old Roman empire, or something like the old communist states.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:02:00 -
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People who compare America to Amarr are just plain stupid.
Replace "Amarr" with any race, and "America" with any present-day country, and you could reasonably say the same.
I can spend an hour working up a thoroughly convincing case that the Amarrians are EVE's representatives of the Americans of today. Or that the Caldari are. Or the Gallenteans. Or the Minmatar, if you prefer. There's enough similarity between any of the four and any present-day country that I could easily make that work for whichever prejudged belief you happen to hold.
Looking at the names should give us a clue to where the factions originally descended from - I think it's pretty clear Caldari from east asia, and we KNOW the Gallentean originated from a french-descended colony - but even in 8000AD when the colonies were first built, any similarities would have long since disappeared, and 14,000 more years of isolation? Forget it. Nobody is the eve "equivalent" of anybody.
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:22:00 -
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I'm sorry but the definative comparison is as follows:
Amarr - Damn Yanks - act all rightous but over look the fact that many of their people are illitarate right wing biggots
Minmatar - Arabs, nice people who are villified by the former on the basis of terrorism etc so the whole world sees them all this way
Caldari - Germans hard working efficient down to earth and prone to periodic dreams of world domination
Gallente - French/Italian/Spanish - complete overdoits ..... but we luv em for it.
Jovians - Russians - frequently embarrasing the first lot of ppl and showing them up .... Sadly this has been toned down a bit in recent years.
argue and dispute all you like but im right and u know it =)
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:33:00 -
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Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:40:00 -
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Minmatar are jamaicans, mon
Jes ask da Hippey!
Bingo!
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:45:00 -
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You are disappointing me more and more Zezman.
I'm losing respect of you and your corp.
Stay real, keep on roleplaying
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.07 23:47:00 -
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The religious zeal, Manifest Destiny/The Reclaiming, the notion that everyone must be rescued to american style democracy/slavery, I think the shoe fits. If I want to take it further? No, this is a game about what became of people once on earth.
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Georg Inekn
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Posted - 2003.11.08 00:26:00 -
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Amarr - Damn Yanks - act all rightous but over look the fact that many of their people are illitarate right wing biggots
/me hands you an ass hat.
If you're going to accuse an entire nation of being "illitarate," you might want to take care to spell the word correctly. Does the extra g in bigot stand for "look at me, I'm a moron"? Don't feel too bad, you almost got righteous correct.
A+ on all the three letter words, though. Well done!
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Moph
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Posted - 2003.11.08 00:37:00 -
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Minmatars for sure are not jews. Totally diffrent 'religion', and culture.
More comparable to a mix between muslims (from before the prophet Mahometh ever came) and
btw it is stupid topic, it should not be compared like this, becose there's no comparison.
Caldari have nothing to do with Sparta, just because they are militaristic. It's a corporate state; a political fiction, something some political scientist really predict that can happen (a new political system, next after democracy, or parallel)
Also Amarr have totally nothing to do with Romans, because of their religion, culture and political system and way of thinking. Only that they use slaves.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.08 00:43:00 -
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Japan already is moving towards corporations being fifedoms or am I reading them wrong?
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Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.11.08 03:13:00 -
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Edited by: Xander Teg on 08/11/2003 03:16:25
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Amarr - Damn Yanks - act all rightous but over look the fact that many of their people are illitarate right wing biggots
/me hands you an ass hat.
If you're going to accuse an entire nation of being "illitarate," you might want to take care to spell the word correctly. Does the extra g in bigot stand for "look at me, I'm a moron"? Don't feel too bad, you almost got righteous correct.
A+ on all the three letter words, though. Well done!
Damn, someone just got owned.
Here are my thoughts:
Amar: Monarchy/Dictatorship, Religous Zeal, and concept of race superiority.
-Ancient Egypt, definately.
Minmatar: tribal, oppressed, tenacious
-Hebrew nation, and the 7 tribes of Isreal
Gallente: democracy, diversity, and equality
-Modern day Europe.
Caldari: Pure Capitalists, Militant, money loving
-Modern day US - spends 400 billion dollars a year on defense. #2 Russia spends 65. Aprox 80% of all engineering students will work on defense R&D over the course of their careers. There are hundreds of private corporations that are defense contractors. For the top 100 click here. And while i concede Japan is slightly ahead of the US in the pure capitalism department, if you don't think the major corporations in the US exert a solid measure of control the government...
/emotesnickers
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Posted - 2003.11.08 04:13:00 -
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Minmatar: tribal, oppressed, tenacious
-Hebrew nation, and the 7 tribes of Isreal
I've always thought of the Minmatar of being more like the Native Americans then anything else.
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Posted - 2003.11.08 04:24:00 -
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I am sooooo not touching this topic 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
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Posted - 2003.11.08 04:37:00 -
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Amarr - Damn Yanks - act all rightous but over look the fact that many of their people are illitarate right wing biggots
/me hands you an ass hat.
If you're going to accuse an entire nation of being "illitarate," you might want to take care to spell the word correctly. Does the extra g in bigot stand for "look at me, I'm a moron"? Don't feel too bad, you almost got righteous correct.
A+ on all the three letter words, though. Well done!
Heh, hypocrisy at its best (or worst....)
I guess I see them as:
Amarr- Romans (enslaving, life for the emperor, holier than thou, ect)
Gallentene- Kinda a mix between Western European and American (Freedom, democracy, all that stuff)
Caldari- I think of Germans, but thats probably just because of a popular stereotype... I can't see them as being Americans, because as an American myself, I think we are too lazy to be Caldari
Minmatar- I guess I would say the Jewish people, except without the religious aspect. Just the fact that they were enslaved and abused so many times in history...
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Posted - 2003.11.08 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: Slithereen on 08/11/2003 04:49:03
Amarr = Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire located in Constantinople); any empire with snootish, right wing, bigoted beliefs, e.g. Great Britain, right wing America, Romans, medieval Germany (Holy Roman Empire), Austro-Hungarian Empire, Czarist Russia, Germany under Bismark, etc,.
Minmatar = Third world countries, Africans, South East Asians, South Americans, Jamaicans and hip hop rappers and gangstas.
Gallanteans = French, liberal America, plus a bit of Italy and Spain.
Caldari = modern Japan; Sparta, Venitian city states at the time of Machiavelli.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.08 17:09:00 -
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A couple of questions if I may. One I have seen right wing used as a negative description several times here. Now I don't have a problem with that but I want to kow why left wing is never used as a negative. I mean both right and left are used to show that they are on the radical sides of an issue. Left wing zealots do as much damage as right wing ones so why the bias? Second I have seen a few post saying american aren't tolerent and generally being snide to americans. I so far haven't seen any posts of americans attacking other countries so isn't that a little ironic at the least.
You should be poud of what ever country you are from.
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2003.11.08 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Slithereen on 08/11/2003 04:49:03
Amarr = ... right wing, bigoted beliefs, e.g. Great Britain, right wing America, Romans, medieval Germany (Holy Roman Empire), Austro-Hungarian Empire, Czarist Russia, Germany under Bismark, etc,.
WTF.
Er and may i ask which country your from with a few like that?
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2003.11.08 19:00:00 -
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I am sooooo not touching this topic
agreed... Zezman how can you not know that this topic is a bad idea.
*kicks Zezman of his top 5 list
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.08 22:36:00 -
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'Cause the general conception is rightwingers taking care of #1, leftwingers looking after more than just themselves.
Wrap it up in a fancy essay and call it a manifest, that's what it boils down to over here.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2003.11.08 23:00:00 -
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I am sooooo not touching this topic
Agreed. The races have actually rather few true comparsions with real life nations. Except if you go explicitly looking for them.
I never liked allegory much, beyond Animal Farm. The joke is so often on the writer of said allegory.
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Posted - 2003.11.08 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lyzander on 08/11/2003 23:07:41
Although I've always thought of the Caldari as being most like the Japanese, the comparison to the Spartans has a certain appeal... (check my name)
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Posted - 2003.11.08 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: Zakalwe on 08/11/2003 23:34:43
I was laughing when i read description of Eve's races...
Laughing because in my country talking about 'race' is awful and consider you as 'racist'...
All that to come at Gallente 'race' in Eve. Really in french it is 'galant': old french 'galer' which means 'enjoying, amusing' ( those words comes from french too as 50%english) about girls : being polite, 'prevenant' etc...
I laughing more when i saw the description of 'French' Gallente ... "Descendants of Tau Ceti Frenchmen, the Gallenteans remain strong believers in free will and human rights, despite numerous setbacks in their long history."
Free will ?
Lol, France is the land of carebear communists/leftists/islamists.
Human rights ?
Lol again : Sadddam is better than liberty..
Thats the Gallente in RL..
Hmmm...
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Posted - 2003.11.09 00:19:00 -
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You know what makes me smile? All of the centrists and conservatives and what they want and say.
Liberalism and Socialism is the future. Conservatism isnt bad, it just slows progress. Look at the past, look how much worse things were. What we have today in our democracies across the world is from Liberalism.
Remember, the United States of America was founded as a liberal democracy, if they wanted conservatism they would have stayed as a colony of England.
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Posted - 2003.11.09 00:28:00 -
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I am sooooo not touching this topic
Agreed. The races have actually rather few true comparsions with real life nations. Except if you go explicitly looking for them.
I never liked allegory much, beyond Animal Farm. The joke is so often on the writer of said allegory.
Unfortunately people don't seem to get the message and it'll take one of them getting seriously bent out of shape for them to get it.
Here's one of those strange things that illustrates what you said pretty well:
Do a Google search for these words: "Disney" "boycott" "Lion King"
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.11.09 00:36:00 -
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To clarity, Amarr = more like the British Empire in the 18th to 19th century, all pompous, colonizing the Third World and taking slaves from Africa. Today's Great Britain is more like the Gallente.
Minmatar = Much of the Third World that has broken away from them ever since.
Khanid and Ammatar = Breakaway and independent colonies that still owe some allegiance with Great Britain. I think this pertains to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
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Lyzander
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Posted - 2003.11.09 02:53:00 -
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Khanid and Ammatar are very different:
Ammatar: Minmatar-descendent Amarr loyalists
Khanid: Dark Amarr, enemies of the Amarr Empire due to their break away from the empire
So if Amarr is Britain, I suppose any commonwealth country could be the Ammatar, and the Americans Khanid (in a way)
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.11.09 11:29:00 -
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Can everybody please pull the huge nationalism-enscribed ***** from their asses and start acting like reasonable people again please?
Thank you very much.
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Tassadar Beta
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Posted - 2003.11.09 12:08:00 -
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If anything the Amarrians are like the Japanese in culture. If anyone actually took the time to look properly they would see the distinct charateristics.
The Amarrians believe their emperor is a god, the japanese up until present had an emperor and believed he was a god.
Combine this with their religous fevour and ritual suicide then its easy to see the likeness. Of course this can be taken from ww2 and back but not the present, as the Japanese only had soldiers as slaves during ww2.
Who said it has to be from modern culture ;).
The other empires have their distinct cultural links can you guess what they are  .
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.09 12:10:00 -
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To clarity, Amarr = more like the British Empire in the 18th to 19th century, all pompous, colonizing the Third World and taking slaves from Africa. Today's Great Britain is more like the Gallente.
Minmatar = Much of the Third World that has broken away from them ever since.
Khanid and Ammatar = Breakaway and independent colonies that still owe some allegiance with Great Britain. I think this pertains to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
The last country to break away from the British Empire was in 1776.
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Posted - 2003.11.09 12:11:00 -
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To clarity, Amarr = more like the British Empire in the 18th to 19th century, all pompous, colonizing the Third World and taking slaves from Africa. Today's Great Britain is more like the Gallente.
Okay.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.09 12:12:00 -
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Thats the Gallente in RL..
No it ain't.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE GALLENTE IN RL. THIS IS A GAME.
In fact, if you'd bothered to read the info on Gallente you would have seen that it also says, "although any obvious resemblances have long since vanished." So comparing them to the present-day French is a very stupid thing to do.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.11.09 12:22:00 -
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OMG MINMATAR ARE NOT JEWS. DIEPLSKTHXBYE.
Caldari are japanese
Amarr are like... romans.
Gallente are like french but better (or worse?)
Minmatar are OBVIOUSLY africans. omg jews. omg the horror the horror.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.09 14:24:00 -
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'Cause the general conception is rightwingers taking care of #1, leftwingers looking after more than just themselves.
Wrap it up in a fancy essay and call it a manifest, that's what it boils down to over here.
Yeah but it's just perception both left and right wingers are out of themselves the only diference is what they what. Political parties and political groups exist for one reason to perpetuate themselves period. They are just another kind of big corporation.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.09 14:27:00 -
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You know what makes me smile? All of the centrists and conservatives and what they want and say.
Liberalism and Socialism is the future. Conservatism isnt bad, it just slows progress. Look at the past, look how much worse things were. What we have today in our democracies across the world is from Liberalism.
Remember, the United States of America was founded as a liberal democracy, if they wanted conservatism they would have stayed as a colony of England.
/me thinks of big list of things people have said was the future...then laughs..
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't but nobody on this board knows either way.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.11.09 14:46:00 -
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Well, I for one refuse to bring any nationalism and political dispute to a game board.
BABYLON 5
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Minmatar = Narn. Once conquered people.
Amarr = Earth Alliance. The religious factions liking to Psi Corp.
Caldari = Drazi.
Gallente = Centauri. Headonists.
Jove = Mimbari
Just my humble opinion.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.11.09 14:56:00 -
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the jove might be jews. yeah i think that fits.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.11.09 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 09/11/2003 15:10:09
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Maud dib wrote:
A couple of questions if I may. One I have seen right wing used as a negative description several times here. Now I don't have a problem with that but I want to kow why left wing is never used as a negative. I mean both right and left are used to show that they are on the radical sides of an issue. Left wing zealots do as much damage as right wing ones so why the bias?
I use left wing as a negative remark. But then again I live in friggin Sweden and has been oppressed by communist rule for more or less 30 years.
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Second I have seen a few post saying american aren't tolerent and generally being snide to americans. I so far haven't seen any posts of americans attacking other countries so isn't that a little ironic at the least. You should be poud of what ever country you are from.
Indeed. Anti-americanism takes every form. Self critique is a much better virtue that not so many possess.
Also, I love the way every fool suddenly has started writing horoscopes. Mix and match and you'll always find a few similarities.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.09 20:26:00 -
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Communist repression in Sweden!?? 
I'm not anti-american, I'm pro-world.
Convert Stations
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.11.09 20:58:00 -
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Aye, pretty damn close anyway.
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Sayeret Golani
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Posted - 2003.11.09 21:12:00 -
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Caldari is a mix of russians and italians! At least physically.
hmmmm.....
that would be a cuisine I¦d love to try.
Like wreniki parmigiana; served with kwas and olive oil :-)
Regards
Golani
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.09 21:28:00 -
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Whoa Golani, whatever happened to your face!?? Have you been eating those delicacies again? You know when they say italian on the box that's not linguini, that Luigi!
Convert Stations
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Sayeret Golani
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Posted - 2003.11.09 21:33:00 -
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Whoa Golani, whatever happened to your face!?? Have you been eating those delicacies again? You know when they say italian on the box that's not linguini, that Luigi!
rather must have been these blini quatro fromaggi.
I¦d rather stay with authentic ethnical kitchen.
Starting to cure it with some stolitschnaya vodka.....
Cheerio
Golani
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Bic Pentameter
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Posted - 2003.11.10 05:36:00 -
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Edited by: Zarwi on 07/11/2003 20:44:17
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Amarr - americans.
Gallente - europeans.
Caldari - russian/japanese.
Minmatar - africa/southeast asia.
you must be a liberal, american hating, euro-weenie!
American's yes took part in Slavery, but so did
England,Spain,Italy, and well most of Europe. So don't go pinning that on Americans alone!
ahhh, but if we americans had not treated our slaves so badly there would not have been such a general outcry against it, and it would still be an acceptable social situation in our modern times.
americans ruined slavery with their inhumane cruelty to their servants.
instead we have the modern "wage slavery" and these modern salves are treated worse in many cases that the salves of a couple hundred years ago.
a case where misguided liberals ended up causeing people to suffer more than they would have WITHOUT the current so called freedom.
at this time it is a case of having the freedom to be abused working for "the man" and watch your family be poisened by television propiganda lieing to them and telling them they are free
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to be engaged in illeagle activity to support your family and watch your family be poisened by television propiganda lieing to them and telling them they are free
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to stay legale, and not cow-tow to "the man" and watch your family starve and be poisened by television propiganda lieing to them and telling them they are free.
it is still a very abusive kind of slavery, but in the past you, the master/employer/owner, were required to provide at least a minimal amount of health care for your slaves.
not true today.
so if you want to compare the amarr to americans, it takes more than a "twenty words or less" answere, and being american victims of television, most don't have a long enough attention span to hear or understand anything that long.
i'm not bashing americans, just exposing them.
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Yangja Isuko
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Posted - 2003.11.10 07:14:00 -
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if you'd have actually read some of the background and would look at the names of entities in each empire, you would know that
the Gallente are french (descendent from french settlers) the Amarr come from an american religious cult, the minmatar are a mixed group with largely african basis, and the caldari are a curious mix of Scandinavian and Japanese.
This thread is turning too much into a national flamefest. Please try and keep RL politics and stuff off the EVE boards people!I am locking it down.
-Jehova
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