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MECHcore Saiyans United Death from Above.. 19	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:02:42 - [1] - Quote Hello people ! ( CCP hear me pls ) Im a loyal dog, erm i mean loyal Customer/Client since 2004, an active player i would say. 650days+ with an average of 4 hours playtime each day. I have this small request. Could it maybe be possible to give the 10Y+ people some... Erm, kind of maybe a letter with some autograph from the Devs on it ? Like " Thx for playing and supporting us for such a long time" . So we gain nothing ingame, but would be awesome to have some thx from CCP in some RL letter, which i would preserve in a CO2 free zone Im sure sending out letters would cost very few to the company, and you would gain alot of respect, including me :) So erm if its possible maybe a letter and an autograph from some Devs or maybe the CEO and stuff like that ? :) And if possible for other old vets aswell, my hopes are mixed but well i tried atleast. Sincerly From an old customer "MECHcore" Btw i like the monument but its not at my home Thx anyway, i could only try !
Xtreem Echelon Research SpaceMonkey's Alliance 279	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:09:20 - [2] - Quote they were going to do a vet station for us to dwell in but it has been pushed back which is unfortunate (original 03 player here) a signed piece of art work would be cool :-) hint hint.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 1029	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:12:15 - [3] - Quote MECHcore wrote: Hello people ! ( CCP hear me pls ) Im a loyal dog, erm i mean loyal Customer/Client since 2004, an active player i would say. 650days+ with an average of 4 hours playtime each day. I have this small request. Could it maybe be possible to give the 10Y+ people some... Erm, kind of maybe a letter with some autograph from the Devs on it ? Like " Thx for playing and supporting us for such a long time" . So we gain nothing ingame, but would be awesome to have some thx from CCP in some RL letter, which i would preserve in a CO2 free zone Im sure sending out letters would cost very few to the company, and you would gain alot of respect, including me :) So erm if its possible maybe a letter and an autograph from some Devs or maybe the CEO and stuff like that ? :) And if possible for other old vets aswell, my hopes are mixed but well i tried atleast. Sincerly From an old customer "MECHcore" Btw i like the monument but its not at my home Thx anyway, i could only try ! They have a plan in the workings for that, they announced it... oh wait, that was over two years ago I think. the Code ALWAYS wins
MECHcore Saiyans United Death from Above.. 20	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:20:10 - [4] - Quote I did not know about that one, would be damn awesome if CCP did that to its loyal players. Its a small gesture but it would mean alot, so im gonna start checking my RL mailbox in a week from now, would be funny to find a letter with CCP on it !!1 >:) Erm i think i will only find payments for elec/gas/water :( CCP you could change that !!
Feu dAstres Nox Draconum Holding Corp Nox Draconum 32	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:20:42 - [5] - Quote How about a sword to hang on the wall in your Captain's Quarters?
Athryn Bellee Concordiat Test Alliance Please Ignore 49	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:24:14 - [6] - Quote Because being able to fly nearly any ship at level 5 master at his point isn't enough?
MECHcore Saiyans United Death from Above.. 22	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:31:51 - [7] - Quote Athryn Bellee wrote: Because being able to fly nearly any ship at level 5 master at his point isn't enough? A letter from CCP in RL will not give me any advantage in the game It would be awesome to have such a letter with maybe some autographs, after such a long time playing, and not only for me.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 8491	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:43:01 - [8] - Quote I am not a 10 year player, but I do agree with the OP that a token of some kind (instead of an empty promise) would be a nice gesture by CCP for these dedicated veterans of New Eden. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Lykouleon Trust Doesn't Rust Triumvirate. 1549	Posted - 2015.05.05 18:06:24 - [9] - Quote I think Guard should be sent around the world and forced to give every actively subscribed player a high-five (after everyone involved uses hand sanitizer). Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword .TDR. & Associates, LLP - Defending Your Spaceship Rights, erryday.
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 36833	Posted - 2015.05.05 18:08:45 - [10] - Quote Maybe CCP could create a special vet station that only 10+ year characters can dock at. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
d0cTeR9 Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance 155	Posted - 2015.05.05 18:39:46 - [11] - Quote Unless you are also Chinese (and a vet for how ever long the Chinese server has been up), don't hold your breath. mumbles something about Chinese skins
John McCreedy Eve Defence Force The Kadeshi 216	Posted - 2015.05.05 18:49:37 - [12] - Quote I started in July '03 with John being almost 12 years old at time of this post. I've been paying a subscription on this account throughout the entire time. For almost as long I've paid subscriptions on alts as well, which means I've financially supported CCP with a lot of money over the years. The very least you (CCP) could do is give something back to us vets by way of a thank you because for all your chasing of new customers, Eve would not be what it is today - Eve would not even be still running today - if not for us vets who stuck with it through the early years. 11 years and counting. Eve Defence Force is recruiting.
BoBoZoBo Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team 551	Posted - 2015.05.05 18:52:27 - [13] - Quote Athryn Bellee wrote: Because being able to fly nearly any ship at level 5 master at his point isn't enough? Statements like this beg for a down-vote option on the forums. - I have been here since '03 I am not even close to flying every single ship with full L5 support. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite
Memphis Baas 380	Posted - 2015.05.05 19:14:05 - [14] - Quote Two thoughts: - Some people have played since 2003 but may have sold or deleted their 2003 characters. Finding the player, rather than the account or character, may be difficult. - Turn this on CCP, and ask them to give a plaque to all their employees who have been with the company since 2003 (i.e. not fired, not hired at a later date). Think about the kind of reactions this "gesture" would cause. Then think about how 2004 or later players may feel, or how extreme contributors (Chribba, FC's who provide fun fights daily to their peers, the administrators of the game-related websites we use every day, and so on) may feel. I think that CCP's idea to reward everyone is better.
P3ps1 Max Hedion University Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2015.05.05 19:14:43 - [15] - Quote Hey I have bitter vet syndrome! Instead why not pay CCP back all the game time you've played for free using in-game isk? Sounds reasonable to me -«=ƒöP=ƒöP=ƒÿ¢=ƒÆ¦=ƒÿ¢=ƒÆ¦=ƒÆ¦
MECHcore Saiyans United Death from Above.. 26	Posted - 2015.05.05 19:39:11 - [16] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Hey I have bitter vet syndrome! Instead why not pay CCP back all the game time you've played for free using in-game isk? Sounds reasonable to me -«=ƒöP=ƒöP=ƒÿ¢=ƒÆ¦=ƒÿ¢=ƒÆ¦=ƒÆ¦ Is it to much to ask for a RL letter with an autograph from some Devs or maybe the CEO, not only for me but for other players aswell? I think after such a damn long time playing and supporting the game from the start we might get some recognition. We do not ask much. ( How much does paper and ink costs ? )
Sexy Cakes Have A Seat 929	Posted - 2015.05.05 19:39:13 - [17] - Quote Didn't the 4 guys who had played 10 years on the 10 year anniversary get Titan Nvidia cards? After those 4 guys no one cares who has played 10 years at this point. Sorry. Not today spaghetti.
MECHcore Saiyans United Death from Above.. 26	Posted - 2015.05.05 19:41:57 - [18] - Quote Sexy Cakes wrote: Didn't the 4 guys who had played 10 years on the 10 year anniversary get Titan Nvidia cards? After those 4 guys no one cares who has played 10 years at this point. Sorry. There is a difference between a letter with autographs and vid cards ;) I rather have the damn letter.
Sexy Cakes Have A Seat 929	Posted - 2015.05.05 19:44:52 - [19] - Quote MECHcore wrote: There is a difference between a letter with autographs and vid cards ;) I rather have the damn letter. My point is they did reward the first set of 10 year'ers and after that no one cares about 10 year'ers anymore. Not today spaghetti.
Ddolik Viscosity Fidelas Constans 28	Posted - 2015.05.05 20:39:23 - [20] - Quote im 2009(2010 this acc) char and i support your request, vets! not ingame stuff, just send them some letter i to read about that at reddit cheers
Celthric Kanerian Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation 282	Posted - 2015.05.05 20:51:38 - [21] - Quote I think you have a reward in itself: A couple hundred million SP to do whatever the heck you want to do xD
Xtreem Echelon Research SpaceMonkey's Alliance 280	Posted - 2015.05.05 21:09:17 - [22] - Quote Celthric Kanerian wrote: I think you have a reward in itself: A couple hundred million SP to do whatever the heck you want to do xD This is very true, and i agree, but please keep in mind i have had a minimum of 1 account subbed since Nov 03 so it's not like I have paid to have those skill points, I have also brought people into the game and created a reasonable about of content in this sandbox and given the cost of just 1 account for that time something that costs them some ink, postage and some time to sign from a few of the chaps is a rather small gesture. While I won't hold my breath and I also don't think CCP should be obligated to do such a thing, I am agreeing it would be a nice gesture is all, a pay off for all the various girlfriend agro over the years :-D
Solecist Project Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 23646	Posted - 2015.05.05 21:23:10 - [23] - Quote m0o S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD
MECHcore Saiyans United Death from Above.. 27	Posted - 2015.05.05 22:54:51 - [24] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: m0o I can speak for "darth solo" i think, Celes Apoc ftw !!
Nariya Kentaya Ministry of War Amarr Empire 1899	Posted - 2015.05.05 23:12:49 - [25] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Two thoughts: - Some people have played since 2003 but may have sold or deleted their 2003 characters. Finding the player, rather than the account or character, may be difficult. - Turn this on CCP, and ask them to give a plaque to all their employees who have been with the company since 2003 (i.e. not fired, not hired at a later date). Think about the kind of reactions this "gesture" would cause. Then think about how 2004 or later players may feel, or how extreme contributors (Chribba, FC's who provide fun fights daily to their peers, the administrators of the game-related websites we use every day, and so on) may feel. I think that CCP's idea to reward everyone is better. umm, i dont know where you live, but giving out plaque and 500+ dollar "prizes" to every employee that hits a milestone (usually in the 25-40 year range which puts them as some of the seniorest members in the company) is fairly standard practice for multiple large companies in my area. no, none of us like being forced to attend a "party" to congratulate a manage we hate, but the companies still do it
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 297	Posted - 2015.05.06 00:51:57 - [26] - Quote Key anniversary recognition awards -- great idea. Even if it's only a colored pod or clothing.
Jvpiter Jovelike 3567	Posted - 2015.05.06 01:11:30 - [27] - Quote A "Skill Training Complete" is its own reward. Call me Joe.
FrankyWave Quebec's Underdog League Quebec United Legions 2	Posted - 2015.05.06 01:22:50 - [28] - Quote Dear CCP, I got a stupid watch at work after 10 years of services as a token of appreciation. As with so many others players, I started playing EVE in 2003. Twelve years later, I wish I had a virtual watch to look at the time in the game as well !!! I am of the save mind as MechCORE, a bit of recognition never hurts anyone. And congrats to all of you who read this and have been here for more than 10 years or are nearing it anytime soon ! Fly safe everyone. FrankyWave
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 3991	Posted - 2015.05.06 01:27:37 - [29] - Quote 10 damn years-- damn son, how old were you when you started? Were you married? What job were you doing? How old are your kids now? Thinking about it, that's a pretty dang long time. Yeah, I'd bet CCP will give you something nice. They haven't been around that much longer that 10 years themselves, eh? Long EVE journey. "What a long strange trip it's been" (Grateful Dead lyric) My advice to you: Do not ever look up "worst guitar solo" on Youtube. You will be sorry. No joke. Really and truly sorry.
Sakaras Lane Wok The Dog Naga Please. 3	Posted - 2015.05.06 02:35:21 - [30] - Quote I agree with everything
Michael Ruckert Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando 297	Posted - 2015.05.06 02:42:33 - [31] - Quote Read "The Forever War" by Joe Haldeman. 10 year vets - just another cog in the EVE Forever War machine. "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Hipqo Project AIice Whatever. 111	Posted - 2015.05.06 05:05:11 - [32] - Quote I just wanna say, i think its sad you "vets" feel like CCP owns you something... They already gave you something, 10+ years of solid entertainment and happiness! CCP owns you nothing, you have already gotten more then your money was ever worth. A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
MECHcore Saiyans United Death from Above.. 31	Posted - 2015.05.06 05:31:35 - [33] - Quote Hipqo wrote: I just wanna say, i think its sad you "vets" feel like CCP owns you something... They already gave you something, 10+ years of solid entertainment and happiness! CCP owns you nothing, you have already gotten more then your money was ever worth. You are correct idd, but i remember times when there where like 3k players online back in time, in the weekends maybe 4.5k, if it wasn't for us oldies that sticked around then the game could have died very soon. And yes i paid for the solid entertainment. Would it be to much to ask for some little appreciation towards old loyal players, to maybe get a letter thats what.. 2 Eur and some autographs from the Devs or CEO on it ? As far as i remember that wouldn't give you an advantage ingame :) The monument costed alot, sending letters out would cost way less, and well i would see it as a collectors item, and i think i deserved one after all that time From = A happy old EvE player that wants a small present for once >:) _____@" !?

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 14340	Posted - 2015.05.06 06:27:25 - [34] - Quote Veteran station... GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Twitter @Chribba

Garia666 CyberShield Inc Triumvirate. 90	Posted - 2015.05.06 06:38:16 - [35] - Quote eve vets been discriminated for years with the clone`s ( prizes ). Would be fair to get something back i guess.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 1029	Posted - 2015.05.06 07:23:21 - [36] - Quote Hipqo wrote: I just wanna say, i think its sad you "vets" feel like CCP owns you something... They already gave you something, 10+ years of solid entertainment and happiness! CCP owns you nothing, you have already gotten more then your money was ever worth. It is one thing to give nothing at all. It's something different to promise stuff and even make a presentation about how awesome you are that you give stuff to reward long time customers and then give nothing at all. We have endured this CCP "we are awesome and will do great things"-fables for years and already know that they talk much and deliver less (well I have to say this changed a lot in the last year, thanks to CCP Seagull I guess), but this was just mean. the Code ALWAYS wins
Otso Bakarti Aliastra Gallente Federation 176	Posted - 2015.05.06 08:53:43 - [37] - Quote They launched our names into space once. I survived Win95
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 8041	Posted - 2015.05.06 09:12:47 - [38] - Quote They built a monument with our names on it. Custom ship skins \| Since 2014 \| Character creator style "repaint" \| Bring back the dream
John McCreedy Eve Defence Force The Kadeshi 219	Posted - 2015.05.06 09:31:34 - [39] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Hipqo wrote: I just wanna say, i think its sad you "vets" feel like CCP owns you something... They already gave you something, 10+ years of solid entertainment and happiness! CCP owns you nothing, you have already gotten more then your money was ever worth. It is one thing to give nothing at all. It's something different to promise stuff and even make a presentation about how awesome you are that you give stuff to reward long time customers and then give nothing at all. We have endured this CCP "we are awesome and will do great things"-fables for years and already know that they talk much and deliver less (well I have to say this changed a lot in the last year, thanks to CCP Seagull I guess), but this was just mean. Thing is they did, if i recall they gave two players a year's subscription for Eve's tenth anniversary. Two players. The rest of us where told we'd have a station to dock in... That in itself was discriminatory. 11 years and counting. Eve Defence Force is recruiting.
Solecist Project Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 23779	Posted - 2015.05.06 10:23:59 - [40] - Quote John McCreedy wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Hipqo wrote: I just wanna say, i think its sad you "vets" feel like CCP owns you something... They already gave you something, 10+ years of solid entertainment and happiness! CCP owns you nothing, you have already gotten more then your money was ever worth. It is one thing to give nothing at all. It's something different to promise stuff and even make a presentation about how awesome you are that you give stuff to reward long time customers and then give nothing at all. We have endured this CCP "we are awesome and will do great things"-fables for years and already know that they talk much and deliver less (well I have to say this changed a lot in the last year, thanks to CCP Seagull I guess), but this was just mean. Thing is they did, if i recall they gave two players a year's subscription for Eve's tenth anniversary. Two players. The rest of us where told we'd have a station to dock in... That in itself was discriminatory. Never heard of that. Source? Because I don't believe people get nvidia Titans ... ... and two get a lifetime sub. Which is nothing more than a nice gesture anyway. S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD
Alpheias Euphoria Released Triumvirate. 8520	Posted - 2015.05.06 10:27:38 - [41] - Quote More entitlement nonsense? Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord. Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Dominique Vasilkovsky BFG Tech 237	Posted - 2015.05.06 10:48:35 - [42] - Quote Veteran monocles that can't be traded would be a nice gesture. Dominique Vasilkovsky EVEboard Once known as: Mashie Saldana sold - Anastasia Rigel sold - Monica Foulkes sold
Jill Xelitras Xeltec services 324	Posted - 2015.05.06 11:11:53 - [43] - Quote Chribba wrote: Veteran station... Retirement homeGÇª Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.) When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 8041	Posted - 2015.05.06 11:58:35 - [44] - Quote Jill Xelitras wrote: Chribba wrote: Veteran station... Retirement homeGÇª But your character have to look old enough. Custom ship skins \| Since 2014 \| Character creator style "repaint" \| Bring back the dream
John McCreedy Eve Defence Force The Kadeshi 219	Posted - 2015.05.06 12:01:54 - [45] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: John McCreedy wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Hipqo wrote: I just wanna say, i think its sad you "vets" feel like CCP owns you something... They already gave you something, 10+ years of solid entertainment and happiness! CCP owns you nothing, you have already gotten more then your money was ever worth. It is one thing to give nothing at all. It's something different to promise stuff and even make a presentation about how awesome you are that you give stuff to reward long time customers and then give nothing at all. We have endured this CCP "we are awesome and will do great things"-fables for years and already know that they talk much and deliver less (well I have to say this changed a lot in the last year, thanks to CCP Seagull I guess), but this was just mean. Thing is they did, if i recall they gave two players a year's subscription for Eve's tenth anniversary. Two players. The rest of us where told we'd have a station to dock in... That in itself was discriminatory. Never heard of that. Source? Because I don't believe people get nvidia Titans ... ... and two get a lifetime sub. Which is nothing more than a nice gesture anyway. Perhaps it was Titans, I can't remember. I just remember two people where brought up on stage and given something for free as a thank you for subbing for ten years. Doesn't really matter if it was a biscuit, there's a principle involved. Eve is getting less and less Veteran friendly with nerfing of Caps and Supers leaving very little in the way of veteran content but Eve wouldn't exist if we hadn't all stuck with the game when it launched, amongst the DDOSing, TomB's nerf bat, the famous unplayable patch days with cries of 'rollback!', never mind the lack of any tutorial worth the name, so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask CCP to give a loyalty bonus to its long standing customers. 11 years and counting. Eve Defence Force is recruiting.
Lijah Central Builders Incorporated Natural Selection Initiative 0	Posted - 2015.05.06 12:43:58 - [46] - Quote It would be cool. Rather akin to the British Queen sending you a birthday card when you reach 100 years old. The impact would be cool. Maybe a special ship too, which is totally bling, and nothing else, that can't be traded or lost or destroyed or taken out of hi-sec, or something. Basically, some ship that gives no real strategic advantage but also can't be 'sold' to non vets,. (or maybe ... only vets are able to pilot it ... yeha, that would work). Anyway ... '04 player here, still going strong.
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1770	Posted - 2015.05.06 13:00:18 - [47] - Quote MECHcore wrote: Would it be to much to ask for some little appreciation towards old loyal players, to maybe get a letter thats what.. 2 Eur and some autographs from the Devs or CEO on it ? Yes it would be too much. You paid in one way or another for a service which was given to you. There is nothing else to add to that. I would not care if they gave something but you are ASKING for too much. That is where my problem is with this attitude. Let them give you some appreciation if they want to but asking for something is just plain wrong. So you ask people to bring you gift at parties or do you just accept they will bring you something if they feel it's appropriate?
Ryomaru Reaper We Heart U 16	Posted - 2015.05.06 13:07:08 - [48] - Quote I agree that vets can get recognition, but to "Please give free stuffs" is a bit too inappropriate. I don't think they are obligated too do anything, at all. Just cause you were there and discovered Eve 10 years back, doesn't mean you're an all that special little cookie. If I found Eve 10 years back, and got into it, I would be a bitter vet too. Doesn't mean I should get anything, in my opinion, at all. You paid for service, you got service, it's not like they paid you for hard work, and labor...
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 1651	Posted - 2015.05.06 13:35:09 - [49] - Quote Meh, just forget it. First there was a vet station announced. That took a year or so to get denounced. Then there was Falcon writing something like the community should come up with ideas. Then there should had been a round table at (last?) fanfest. And then there was not a thing at all. Silence, a black hole swallowed it. But to the ney sayers, there where 2 guys who got a big video card as reward at the 10 year fanfest. A little token to the rest (not me) wouldn't have hurt. Well 3 years to go for EVE turns 15, maybe that is time enough for CCP to come up with something for the 15 year old vets?
Wacktopia Noir. No Not Believing 780	Posted - 2015.05.06 13:38:50 - [50] - Quote I thought 10Y vets got a special space station somewhere? Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com
Hipqo Project AIice Whatever. 111	Posted - 2015.05.06 13:54:42 - [51] - Quote MECHcore wrote: Hipqo wrote: I just wanna say, i think its sad you "vets" feel like CCP owns you something... They already gave you something, 10+ years of solid entertainment and happiness! CCP owns you nothing, you have already gotten more then your money was ever worth. You are correct idd, but i remember times when there where like 3k players online back in time, in the weekends maybe 4.5k, if it wasn't for us oldies that sticked around then the game could have died very soon. And yes i paid for the solid entertainment. Would it be to much to ask for some little appreciation towards old loyal players, to maybe get a letter thats what.. 2 Eur and some autographs from the Devs or CEO on it ? As far as i remember that wouldn't give you an advantage ingame :) The monument costed alot, sending letters out would cost way less, and well i would see it as a collectors item, and i think i deserved one after all that time From = A happy old EvE player that wants a small present for once >:) _____@" !? hmm snail ? The fact that you stuck around doesnt give you any "right" to anything, it simply means you loved it all along and never stopped playing it :) Im not trying to ** on your parade, but i simply dont understand why you feel so self entitled, just because you have played a game you like for 10 years? Entitlement like this, makes me wanna womit tbh. You arent anymore special then the rest of us, and you deserve nothing else then the rest of us. As far as im concerned, you already have a great reward. Millions and millions of SP, which gives you a clear advantage to anyone who havent trained the same thing you have. Plus the fact that anyone who started playing later then you did, will never ever be able to catch up to you, SP wise. A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH! What a ride!"
Lijah Central Builders Incorporated Natural Selection Initiative 0	Posted - 2015.05.06 13:59:53 - [52] - Quote Hipqo wrote: MECHcore wrote: Hipqo wrote: I just wanna say, i think its sad you "vets" feel like CCP owns you something... They already gave you something, 10+ years of solid entertainment and happiness! CCP owns you nothing, you have already gotten more then your money was ever worth. You are correct idd, but i remember times when there where like 3k players online back in time, in the weekends maybe 4.5k, if it wasn't for us oldies that sticked around then the game could have died very soon. And yes i paid for the solid entertainment. Would it be to much to ask for some little appreciation towards old loyal players, to maybe get a letter thats what.. 2 Eur and some autographs from the Devs or CEO on it ? As far as i remember that wouldn't give you an advantage ingame :) The monument costed alot, sending letters out would cost way less, and well i would see it as a collectors item, and i think i deserved one after all that time From = A happy old EvE player that wants a small present for once >:) _____@" !? hmm snail ? The fact that you stuck around doesnt give you any "right" to anything, it simply means you loved it all along and never stopped playing it :) Im not trying to **** on your parade, but i simply dont understand why you feel so self entitled, just because you have played a game you like for 10 years? Entitlement like this, makes me wanna womit tbh. You arent anymore special then the rest of us, and you deserve nothing else then the rest of us. As far as im concerned, you already have a great reward. Millions and millions of SP, which gives you a clear advantage to anyone who havent trained the same thing you have. Plus the fact that anyone who started playing later then you did, will never ever be able to catch up to you, SP wise. it's nothing that great, but, most companies treasure repeat customers and customer loyalty (purely for business revenue reasons mind) so some little customer reward recognition is not vomit inducing mister :) Guessing then you don't have any store cards, or BA exec membership, or nectar, etc ..... all the same principle.
Dextrome Thorphan RvB - RED Federation 126	Posted - 2015.05.06 14:25:00 - [53] - Quote MECHcore wrote: Hello people ! ( CCP hear me pls ) Im a loyal dog, erm i mean loyal Customer/Client since 2004, an active player i would say. 650days+ with an average of 4 hours playtime each day. ! Only 2600 hours of game time in 11 years? That's not a whole lot... (adds up to about 30 minutes per day) Why exactly should that make you eligible for more rewards than players who've played for 4000 hours in 5 years?
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1770	Posted - 2015.05.06 14:25:23 - [54] - Quote Lijah wrote: it's nothing that great, but, most companies treasure repeat customers and customer loyalty (purely for business revenue reasons mind) so some little customer reward recognition is not vomit inducing mister :) Guessing then you don't have any store cards, or BA exec membership, or nectar, etc ..... all the same principle. Those "reward" were all designed around monetizing the damn thing. Not giving you something out of generosity because you are a repeat/long time customer.
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1770	Posted - 2015.05.06 14:26:43 - [55] - Quote Dextrome Thorphan wrote: MECHcore wrote: Hello people ! ( CCP hear me pls ) Im a loyal dog, erm i mean loyal Customer/Client since 2004, an active player i would say. 650days+ with an average of 4 hours playtime each day. ! Only 2600 hours of game time in 11 years? That's not a whole lot... Why exactly should that make you eligible for more rewards than players who've played for 4000 hours in 5 years? Not even half a year worth of 23/7 AFK cloaking...
Lijah Central Builders Incorporated Natural Selection Initiative 0	Posted - 2015.05.06 14:55:39 - [56] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Lijah wrote: it's nothing that great, but, most companies treasure repeat customers and customer loyalty (purely for business revenue reasons mind) so some little customer reward recognition is not vomit inducing mister :) Guessing then you don't have any store cards, or BA exec membership, or nectar, etc ..... all the same principle. Those "reward" were all designed around monetizing the damn thing. Not giving you something out of generosity because you are a repeat/long time customer. however you shape it it's a reward, be it a discount via clubcard, or a 'gift' item like free flights with BA exec club ... it's all the same thing. Customer retention. Everything is monitized anyway, everything has a price, for someone.
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1771	Posted - 2015.05.06 15:10:23 - [57] - Quote Lijah wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: Lijah wrote: it's nothing that great, but, most companies treasure repeat customers and customer loyalty (purely for business revenue reasons mind) so some little customer reward recognition is not vomit inducing mister :) Guessing then you don't have any store cards, or BA exec membership, or nectar, etc ..... all the same principle. Those "reward" were all designed around monetizing the damn thing. Not giving you something out of generosity because you are a repeat/long time customer. however you shape it it's a reward, be it a discount via clubcard, or a 'gift' item like free flights with BA exec club ... it's all the same thing. Customer retention. Everything is monitized anyway, everything has a price, for someone. It looks like a reward but they integrate it in their operating cost. If you feel "rewarded" by those, you are the target audience of such things because you don't know any ebtter than believing their spin. Maybe you want CCP to integrate a "reward" into their cost so you can feel good about when you receive it?
Solecist Project Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 23856	Posted - 2015.05.06 15:17:12 - [58] - Quote I would like a reward as well. Some of my former doings directly translated into CCP making more money, thus I deserve far more than those who play for years and probably didn't even put their own money into the system for the whole timeframe. Of course I deserve this. Why wouldn't I ? I am definitely better than all of you combined and I still pay my sub with money, because I believe CCP deserves it. I also bet that absolutely most of those who have played for several years stopped giving CCP their money thus they deserve nothing. Nothing! PS: Giving people something is good. Absolutely. Giving people something after they asked for it though ... isn't. That open a can of worms that should be left closed. PPS: Yes I believe superoldvets deserve their station. Why? Because CCP offered it, without anyone asking for it. Sorry if this post needs a thinking brain to be processed. S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD
flakeys Arkham Innovations 2891	Posted - 2015.05.06 15:28:00 - [59] - Quote Dextrome Thorphan wrote: MECHcore wrote: Hello people ! ( CCP hear me pls ) Im a loyal dog, erm i mean loyal Customer/Client since 2004, an active player i would say. 650days+ with an average of 4 hours playtime each day. ! Only 2600 hours of game time in 11 years? That's not a whole lot... (adds up to about 30 minutes per day) Why exactly should that make you eligible for more rewards than players who've played for 4000 hours in 5 years? In case you didn't notice you pay per month not per hour .If you want to make a statement at least think before you type . To the naysayers , it's normal for companies to 'reward' their customers as said above.I have seen it in a lot of mmorpgs i have played in the past where you get something 'extra' if you have been playing for X amount of years so it's not like the OP is asking for something crazy. That said , as a 2004 player myself i couldn't care one bit about what CCP does or does not do to reward us 10+ year old players.I have gotten what i paid for wich is one of the best mmorpg experiences out there. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1771	Posted - 2015.05.06 15:46:41 - [60] - Quote flakeys wrote: To the naysayers , it's normal for companies to 'reward' their customers as said above.I have seen it in a lot of mmorpgs i have played in the past where you get something 'extra' if you have been playing for X amount of years so it's not like the OP is asking for something crazy. I'm not used to any company rewarding me so can you give at least one example of that happening?
MECHcore Saiyans United Death from Above.. 33	Posted - 2015.05.06 15:50:34 - [61] - Quote Dextrome Thorphan wrote: MECHcore wrote: Hello people ! ( CCP hear me pls ) Im a loyal dog, erm i mean loyal Customer/Client since 2004, an active player i would say. 650days+ with an average of 4 hours playtime each day. ! Only 2600 hours of game time in 11 years? That's not a whole lot... (adds up to about 30 minutes per day) Why exactly should that make you eligible for more rewards than players who've played for 4000 hours in 5 years? My apologies its = 674d 17h 25m total online time. ( Daily average4h 01m 27s ) Roughly 16176 hours. And im not much afk Call me a nerd and il accept it ! Mancave and plenty of beer present !
Miriana 'Trauma' Dallocort The Scope Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2015.05.06 16:26:18 - [62] - Quote You 10yr vet pilots were told you were going to get a vet station how many years ago now? You think they are going to pay absurd UPS shipping and handling charges to each and every 10year vet around the world just so they dont have to make a new station? Hell I bet they could take an already existing station, decloak it in some random highsec system with some story about ancient technology and it only allows capsuleers that are 87658 hours old to dock for some reason. Probably would need to train a x28 skill to 5 as well lol
Infinite Destruction Caldari Provisions Caldari State 17	Posted - 2015.05.06 16:39:39 - [63] - Quote My 2005 toon just had it's 10th birthday 2 weeks ago. 10 years of yearly subscriptions = 3,650 days though I probably only average about 2 hours a day so perhaps 7,300 playing hours. My 2008 toon is a month shy of 7 years of yearly subscriptions, also averaging about 2 hours/day so that adds another 2,555 days (and 5,110 hours). I suppose I could add in the other 4 toons that I have on yearly subscriptions for the last 6 years (another 8,760 days or 17,520 hours of game play). That would give me a total of what, 41 years of paid playing time ? (I don't want to even think about how much I've paid to CCP just in subscription fees over that time. Argh - couldn't help myself - seems it's a bit over $5,300 US or about 1/3rd of what I've spent on PLEX over that same period apparently - that sucks !) Tell you what, a State Issue Raven for each of my (paid) accounts and we'll call it square !
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1771	Posted - 2015.05.06 16:57:11 - [64] - Quote Infinite Destruction wrote: My 2005 toon just had it's 10th birthday 2 weeks ago. 10 years of yearly subscriptions = 3,650 days though I probably only average about 2 hours a day so perhaps 7,300 playing hours. My 2008 toon is a month shy of 7 years of yearly subscriptions, also averaging about 2 hours/day so that adds another 2,555 days (and 5,110 hours). I suppose I could add in the other 4 toons that I have on yearly subscriptions for the last 6 years (another 8,760 days or 17,520 hours of game play). That would give me a total of what, 41 years of paid playing time ? (I don't want to even think about how much I've paid to CCP just in subscription fees over that time. Argh - couldn't help myself - seems it's a bit over $5,300 US or about 1/3rd of what I've spent on PLEX over that same period apparently - that sucks !) Tell you what, a State Issue Raven for each of my (paid) accounts and we'll call it square ! We'll reduce it to "**** all" for every account you have and call it square since you already got everything you paid for. Deal?
tiberiusric Comply Or Die 198	Posted - 2015.05.06 16:59:25 - [65] - Quote You went wrong when you thought CCP cared.... they don't, never will. Sorry bittervet syndrome
Quesa Burning Napalm Northern Coalition. 69	Posted - 2015.05.06 17:05:25 - [66] - Quote Been around since early 2004, think this would be kinda cool. Could name the vet station "Bitter Vet Haven"
Sister Bliss Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 79	Posted - 2015.05.06 18:14:07 - [67] - Quote Bitter vet checking in; supporting this idea as a nice gesture, subject to appropriate priorities ofc <3 SB
Baaldor Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion. 334	Posted - 2015.05.06 19:08:28 - [68] - Quote I was thinking about this the other day and my 10th year anniversary is coming up in about 6 days. I remember the 3k peeps at peak, roll backs, huge lag, all the doomsayers saying that the servers will burn once we hit 7,500, 10k, 15k etc. etc. Pedobears, threadnaughts over T20 and RKK love fest, FOE, Ginger Magician, the pain in the ** called SOV. removal of learning skills.....etc etc As much pain and aggravation we all have lived through, I would do it all over again. Except the SOV thing because that was an utterly idea. CCP does not owe me a damn thing, and i owe them nothing short of what we both agree on. Which with my subscription I am allowed to play with their pixels. And not in a gay way...because they do indeed have women working for CCP now. But as far as the little nerds bloviating about "bitter vets" are owed nothing, yeah get bent, you the refuges of what ever socially challenged game you crawled from owe the bitter vets at least a thank you for maintaining and sticking with a game that at times (many times) would discourage the most hardened neck bearded basement dweller. now, get the ** off my lawn.
Sequester Risalo Significant Others 126	Posted - 2015.05.07 09:52:06 - [69] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: I'm not used to any company rewarding me so can you give at least one example of that happening? SOE used to give special ingame-items to veterans. If I remember correctly you didn't even need to be subscribed the whole time. Simply 5 years from caracter creation you couls claim reward x. Real live examples are harder to come by. When I was a kid we stayed in the same hotel in the alps for four years. Another year and we would have gotten somoe sort of certificate a token of appreciation. We went to Denmark instead.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1480	Posted - 2015.05.07 10:33:44 - [70] - Quote MECHcore wrote: ... Could it maybe be possible to give the 10Y+ people some... Erm, kind of maybe a letter with some autograph from the Devs on it ? Like " Thx for playing and supporting us for such a long time" ... Have you handwritten and sent the developers a well thought out letter? Maybe one to each team thanking them for particular features? No? Did you ask the postal service to get the post delivery people to hand write letters to everyone they deliver to? Maybe you think that developers should be falling over themselves and be grateful to be doing their job? CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow Fozzie is treating a symptom.
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 8047	Posted - 2015.05.07 10:59:03 - [71] - Quote Spam of EVEmail will suffice? CONCORD would give you warning about too long time spent in a capsule and some drawbacks this situation could have for you, like wrinkled skin or spontanous eyewatering. Custom ship skins \| Since 2014 \| Character creator style "repaint" \| Bring back the dream
flakeys Arkham Innovations 2892	Posted - 2015.05.07 12:51:36 - [72] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: flakeys wrote: To the naysayers , it's normal for companies to 'reward' their customers as said above.I have seen it in a lot of mmorpgs i have played in the past where you get something 'extra' if you have been playing for X amount of years so it's not like the OP is asking for something crazy. I'm not used to any company rewarding me so can you give at least one example of that happening? Star wars galaxies . There you go i gave you an example not just of one company but of one MMORPG. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
MECHcore Saiyans United Death from Above.. 33	Posted - 2015.05.07 13:02:55 - [73] - Quote Some comments are pretty near the "shut up, your not allowed to ask anything" border. Asking a question seems to be wrong, so i wonder why do we still need forums then ? Also asking something isn't wrong where i live, no clue where the others live but some prefer a dictatorship i think. I readed alot of hate, for just asking something...
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 8047	Posted - 2015.05.07 13:10:36 - [74] - Quote flakeys wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: flakeys wrote: To the naysayers , it's normal for companies to 'reward' their customers as said above.I have seen it in a lot of mmorpgs i have played in the past where you get something 'extra' if you have been playing for X amount of years so it's not like the OP is asking for something crazy. I'm not used to any company rewarding me so can you give at least one example of that happening? Star wars galaxies . There you go i gave you an example not just of one company but of one MMORPG. SWG is out of business, but I have experienced LoTRO anniversary recently. You got a package, content of this package varied with years your account was old. The common ingredient that everyone had were fireworks (!), permanent feature - the portrait frame new graphic (!), for older account some potions or scrolls (!). All of this is worth very little for me. Custom ship skins \| Since 2014 \| Character creator style "repaint" \| Bring back the dream
flakeys Arkham Innovations 2893	Posted - 2015.05.07 13:16:48 - [75] - Quote Bagrat Skalski wrote: flakeys wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: flakeys wrote: To the naysayers , it's normal for companies to 'reward' their customers as said above.I have seen it in a lot of mmorpgs i have played in the past where you get something 'extra' if you have been playing for X amount of years so it's not like the OP is asking for something crazy. I'm not used to any company rewarding me so can you give at least one example of that happening? Star wars galaxies . There you go i gave you an example not just of one company but of one MMORPG. SWG is out of business, but I have experienced LoTRO anniversary recently. You got a package, content of this package varied with years your account was old. The common ingredient that everyone had were fireworks (!), permanent feature - the portrait frame new graphic (!), for older account some potions or scrolls (!). All of this is worth very little for me. Frostys only quoted a part of my post , that post also said that i don't need nor want anything for being a 10+ vet.The enoyment i had from eve in itself is far more then i ever wanted. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 8048	Posted - 2015.05.07 13:29:16 - [76] - Quote Well, I don;t have anything agains such features too, but I would like them to be more personal, like a mail from CONCORD official, with a wish for a quick improve if you are below -5.0 security. Or some gratuitous words if you are at 5.0. Every year they could sent such mail with claimable things we get. Let your deeds speak for themself. And this warning mail if you spend too much time in game, like one year logged in... Custom ship skins \| Since 2014 \| Character creator style "repaint" \| Bring back the dream
MECHcore Saiyans United Death from Above.. 33	Posted - 2015.05.07 15:48:29 - [77] - Quote From a movie, but its abit the same for some old EvE players. I'veGÇª seen things you people wouldn't believeGÇª Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannh+ñuser Gate. All thoseGÇª momentsGÇª will be lost in time, like tearsGÇª inGÇª rain. TimeGÇª to dieGÇª Fountain alliance, Norad alliance, Bob alliance, Phoenix alliance, Curse alliance, G alliance, Red alliance, corps like Euphoria Released, Outbreak and Celestial Apocalypse, even ATUK ( enemies but respect ) and yes Mo0 the evil pirates and later Teddybears lol. I believe that i have the right to >ask< for something small, this is a forum. A no i have, a yes i can get, thats why people tend to ask something
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 8050	Posted - 2015.05.07 15:55:32 - [78] - Quote Quote: All thoseGÇª momentsGÇª will be lost in time, like tearsGÇª inGÇª rain. Well said. Custom ship skins \| Since 2014 \| Character creator style "repaint" \| Bring back the dream
stoicfaux 5568	Posted - 2015.05.07 16:27:05 - [79] - Quote MECHcore wrote: Hello people ! ( CCP hear me pls ) I have this small request. Could it maybe be possible to give the 10Y+ people some... Erm, kind of maybe a letter with some autograph from the Devs on it ? Dude, this is EVE. If you want free dev stuff, then you stalk a dev, ambush them, and loot their remains. Errr... wait, were you referring to out of game stuff? Uh, disregard what I said previously and instead try to scam (social engineer) the autograph out of them. (Because, This. Is. (Still.) EVE!) I find restraining orders to be a great means of getting peoples' autographs without them realizing it as such. (Be sure to get the original document and not a copy.) /humor But seriously, if you want Dev stuff, you should be required to hunt them down in game, collect a token, and then redeem said token for your out-of-game autograph (or sell the token on the market.) Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Olleybear I R' Carebear 209	Posted - 2015.05.08 05:48:45 - [80] - Quote Vet rewards? How about some geritol, metamucil and a glass by the table for our teeth. Follow up with an official eve pillow for nap time because some of us old vets just cant stay up late like we used to. When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.
Vennicea VVV Enterprises 3	Posted - 2015.05.08 09:02:25 - [81] - Quote The OP has a point. I have been a member of a football club for over 10 years. When I got to 10 years I was presented with a plaque acknowledging my loyalty - this is proudly displayed in my study. 10+ players should get some sort of acknowledgment apart from being called "bittervets".
DaReaper Net 7 2043	Posted - 2015.05.13 19:07:56 - [82] - Quote Say a thread on loyalty so.. Bumping. I think this could keep some players in longer. for example, i used to work for geek squad (yes yes i know) one of the things that kept me there for nearly six years was my co workers. But at around the three year mark i was thinking of leaving (i hate retail, anyone who actually knows me, knows i'm a blunt *******) anyway, Best Buy then announced that they were not only giving best buy employees a 5 year watch, but if you were in geek squad, you could get the geek squad leather jacket. For some reason that i STILL don;t know for, i wanted the jacket. So i hunkered down for two more years to earn it. In other words, if CCP setup something simple like, 10 year in eve get special clothing items, or special skins, or a deceration for your CQ, or a special edition ship, or something. There might be a few players getting burnt out going 'hey i want that... i think i can hang in there for x more years/months' Then if they did one for 15 or even 20 years (yes i am sure eve will be here 20 years.) it might make some people stay or return to get said item. I think its a win win and would show that ccp appreciates the dedication some of the old timers have had this to game. But hey thats just me. (note a 10 year vet station is not going to cut it, its not really special. Now if it was the only station with the door open....) OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1784	Posted - 2015.05.13 20:24:03 - [83] - Quote flakeys wrote: Bagrat Skalski wrote: flakeys wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: flakeys wrote: To the naysayers , it's normal for companies to 'reward' their customers as said above.I have seen it in a lot of mmorpgs i have played in the past where you get something 'extra' if you have been playing for X amount of years so it's not like the OP is asking for something crazy. I'm not used to any company rewarding me so can you give at least one example of that happening? Star wars galaxies . There you go i gave you an example not just of one company but of one MMORPG. SWG is out of business, but I have experienced LoTRO anniversary recently. You got a package, content of this package varied with years your account was old. The common ingredient that everyone had were fireworks (!), permanent feature - the portrait frame new graphic (!), for older account some potions or scrolls (!). All of this is worth very little for me. Frostys only quoted a part of my post , that post also said that i don't need nor want anything for being a 10+ vet.The enjoyment i had from eve in itself is far more then i ever wanted. He quoted me because he was under the impression i could not give such an example , thanks to you we now have 2 MMORPG examples . So finding 2 out of god only know how many is enough to be labeled as "normal"? I am not surprised you could name some. What I am surprised is that you think it's enough to consider it normal in the industry.
DaReaper Net 7 2044	Posted - 2015.05.13 22:01:37 - [84] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: So finding 2 out of god only know how many is enough to be labeled as "normal"? I am not surprised you could name some. What I am surprised is that you think it's enough to consider it normal in the industry. Honestly it does;t need to be normal. Its just nifty. And MIGHT make someone play longer. But who knows. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Hevymetal Eve Defence Force The Kadeshi 422	Posted - 2015.05.13 22:02:10 - [85] - Quote Yeah, a dedicated station dockable only by the old timers would be nice. Be even nicer if the CQ doors in this station were openable :)
MECHcore Lonestalker Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 39	Posted - 2015.06.12 13:05:38 - [86] - Quote Hevymetal wrote: Yeah, a dedicated station dockable only by the old timers would be nice. Be even nicer if the CQ doors in this station were openable :) Sry gents for vamping this topic back up. But yes maybe that damn vet station afterall and, some casino room where we can play poker or place bettings on who takes a certain region first EDIT: Checked my rl mailbox and got jack **** so far :')
Varathius Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 182	Posted - 2015.06.12 15:37:44 - [87] - Quote MECHcore wrote: Hello people ! ( CCP hear me pls ) Im a loyal dog, erm i mean loyal Customer/Client since 2004, an active player i would say. 650days+ online time, with an average of 4 hours playtime each day. I have this small request. Could it maybe be possible to give the 10Y+ people some... Erm, kind of maybe a letter with some autograph from the Devs on it ? Like " Thx for playing and supporting us for such a long time" . So we gain nothing ingame, but would be awesome to have some thx from CCP in some RL letter, which i would preserve in a CO2 free zone Im sure sending out letters would cost very few to the company, and you would gain alot of respect, including me :) So erm if its possible maybe a letter and an autograph from some Devs or maybe the CEO and stuff like that ? :) And if possible for other old vets aswell, my hopes are mixed but well i tried atleast. Sincerly From an old customer "MECHcore" Btw i like the monument but its not at my home Thx anyway, i could only try ! they could at least send over one of those concord battleships
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 465	Posted - 2015.06.12 16:24:19 - [88] - Quote I'm nowhere near that age, but you have my support. Back in the Marines, we have stripes sown onto the forearms of our dress uniforms, each one representing a period of 4 years military service. Something like that could be something unlocked for characters in the New Eden Store (though, if you rate it, it should be I feel free). "Tomahawks?" "----in' A, right?" "Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each." "----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Arec Bardwin 1847	Posted - 2015.06.12 18:41:08 - [89] - Quote What about proper HATS for veterans, that can't be traded away?
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6700	Posted - 2015.06.13 00:07:30 - [90] - Quote For 10 years or more I would not be surprised if they sent us all bottles of hand cream and an already opened box of tissues. Bring back DEEEEP Space!

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