Originally by: Ardent Rellik

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Well, SMASH and R0ADKILL are certainly made some inroads there, no pawn intended. I realise that Dusk and Dawn and friendly to Razor and Pure and vice versa. I am not sure as to the relationship with CDC.

I hear that Ratel, despite the rumours to its demise, are still going and swiming upstream. Considering that I am not a huge fan of SMASH and R0ADKILL, they are semi-parasitic alliances that generally do not bring anything good to the territory; would be nice if D2, RZR, Ratel, CDC, Pure, ER got together and took the garbage out.

Honestly, north looks extremley stable usually, because all the guys are either naped or have MDA (mutual deffence agreement). Anyway, my secret desire would be what I mentioned above, for the 6 alliances mentioned get together and remove the parasites out.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally by: Ardent Rellik

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Well, SMASH and R0ADKILL are certainly made some inroads there, no pawn intended. I realise that Dusk and Dawn and friendly to Razor and Pure and vice versa. I am not sure as to the relationship with CDC.

I hear that Ratel, despite the rumours to its demise, are still going and swiming upstream. Considering that I am not a huge fan of SMASH and R0ADKILL, they are semi-parasitic alliances that generally do not bring anything good to the territory; would be nice if D2, RZR, Ratel, CDC, Pure, ER got together and took the garbage out.

Honestly, north looks extremley stable usually, because all the guys are either naped or have MDA (mutual deffence agreement). Anyway, my secret desire would be what I mentioned above, for the 6 alliances mentioned get together and remove the parasites out.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally by: Draahk Chimera

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Both we+SMASH and ER, CDC, PURE, D2, RATEL and everyone else is quite happy to sort our differences on the server. Thank you all for not making this a BoB/FIX/blah blah-war fought primarilly on the forums.

Cya in space.

My 8 cent.

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Originally by: Draahk Chimera

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Both we+SMASH and ER, CDC, PURE, D2, RATEL and everyone else is quite happy to sort our differences on the server. Thank you all for not making this a BoB/FIX/blah blah-war fought primarilly on the forums.

Cya in space.

My 8 cent.

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Originally by: End Yourself

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hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!

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Ardent Rellik
Gallente
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES

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Originally by: Grimslaw

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We have Irrefutable Proof that they (Smash + Roadkill) have a large 'Weapons of Mass Seduction' Program in operation ;-)

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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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Originally by: Draahk Chimera

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Both we+SMASH and ER, CDC, PURE, D2, RATEL and everyone else is quite happy to sort our differences on the server. Thank you all for not making this a BoB/FIX/blah blah-war fought primarilly on the forums.

Cya in space.

My 8 cent.

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What that man said, there is nothing to tell apart from ER and Smash and RK live next door to each other and we are not friends.

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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am

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Personally i harbor no ill will against our enemies and this goes for our side in general.

Some people will try and start up some smack every now and then, we have some, the other side has some, but this war is mostly clean from what i've seen myself.

To our memberbase it looks like just an old fashioned war for some territory. New regions opening up in kali and the proximity of geminate and vale to these could be a factor in our little war. On the other hand there is also a conspiracy theory floating about and gaining some momentum, as we have seen some members of a certain alliance move into our little neighborhood. It could just be isolated incidents, roaming gangs or the start of something bigger, but nothing is confirmed yet.

This could just as easily be true or false though and we will have to wait until the war ends. Then maybe the leadership might spill the beans about this theory, for us grunts and to give the public something to read on these forums.

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Originally by: Draahk Chimera

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Both we+SMASH and ER, CDC, PURE, D2, RATEL and everyone else is quite happy to sort our differences on the server. Thank you all for not making this a BoB/FIX/blah blah-war fought primarilly on the forums.

Cya in space.

My 8 cent.

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Originally by: Pham Sirge

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Hi all,

Apart from when I broke up the Er "Miner Love In" (Geez for hardcore Pvp's you seem to do a heap of mining) in 8mg I really havent got the feeling we were hated UNTILL:

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Poked his head out from under the dunny paper.

Grats mate, you make me feel all warm inside for another session of "whos hiding in 8mg". Dock up tight kids Phams comming to town.

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<VTIL> Pham Sirge

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Originally by: Emrod

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....Questions....

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Originally by: ragewind

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smash, roadkill er ect have fun simple, we are not bob we spend the time and fights ingame (bar bust pc's )

as for Ardent Rellik you are not part of any of the involved parts so go back to what ever hole you live in, the rest of us will carry on as we have ingame happy that your post made no diferance in the fate of well anything in the area.

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Originally by: Pham Sirge

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...Ready for a news flash, All alliances come into other peoples space and take it over... Its not like there is a bunch of 'free' systems to takeover...Pham Sirge

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Originally by: Draahk Chimera

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Both we+SMASH and ER, CDC, PURE, D2, RATEL and everyone else is quite happy to sort our differences on the server. Thank you all for not making this a BoB/FIX/blah blah-war fought primarilly on the forums.

Cya in space.

My 8 cent.

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I emphesised the "constructive" parts of your post;

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as to the "childish" behaviour.

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SMASH and R0ADKILL will either have to adjust and modify their approach to dealing with their neighbours, or at the end of the proverbial day they will loose their position in Germinate. Whether this will happen a week from now, a month or a year, it makes no difference. If you want to hold on to your territory you have to make concessions and allies, all ôlocustö alliances eventually settle in one way or another and stop travelling like gypsies.

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Originally by: Murukan

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ER died when George Clooney left...

Oops i mean gl hf

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Originally by: Peoke

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well the only way for er cdc and pure to dislodge us is to get d2 and razor to bring exactly what they brought to xzh a few months back deal with a unstable node for 2-3 months fly fleets 30-70 jumps to move us from a rea where we dont bother them. further more they would then have 2 locust alliances without space and a new found will and desire to disrupt thier isk making and not a lowly ally in the middle of no where

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Originally by: End Yourself

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hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!

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Originally by: Mirirar

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There's organization in Geminate?

We still operate freely here... Occasionally PURE will organize a fleet and chase us off... but I wouldn't venture as far as saying anyone seems to be exercising any control over the region.

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Originally by: Draahk Chimera

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Does mr 1-man-corp even know the history of r0adkill? The founding corps are ex-SA. We have always had a home in Stain. When SA folded and we formed o.0 we needed a new home, that simple. And btw, the part of Geminate we claim was all but deserted when we scouted it, belive me, I was the scout. Then 2-3 days before we where supposed to move in to TDE4 RATEL moved in and dropped their egg.

As for SMASH, as long as Ive known them they have been trying to claim a home. Pretty hard with a small alliance that gets blobbed by BoBFIX.

Again I wish to send my respect and thanks to our friends and foes that you are very civil ppl that dont fall for this dudes trolling.

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Originally by: Sacul

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Originally by: Mirirar

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There's organization in Geminate?

We still operate freely here... Occasionally PURE will organize a fleet and chase us off... but I wouldn't venture as far as saying anyone seems to be exercising any control over the region.

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ghehe, yeah its boring. either large gate camps/ squads or empty space. FDZ to any of the entry points have no control in a organized way.

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Originally by: Murukan

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heh ardent you appreciate the politics of the north. Lol what a crock of ****. Seriously grow some balls you northern faeries.

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Originally by: End Yourself

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hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!

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Originally by: Droewa

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FIX never blobed smash with BOB. Infact I tried my damedest to get FIX to work with Smash only to be told by the oh so great Nez that Smash where scum and If FIX was to work with them we would be looked down apoun by the Eve comunity.. so yea FIX left Smash high and dry after they spent months fighting SA and working with FIX durring the seconds FIX SA war. not my fault though, it was the stuck up arrogant leadership of FIX that has now split off to form there own little alliance called.. errr.. you figure it out..

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not my fault though, it was the stuck up arrogant leadership of FIX that has now split off to form there own little alliance called.. errr.. you figure it out..

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Originally by: End Yourself

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hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!

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Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor

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Originally by: Draahk Chimera

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Does mr 1-man-corp even know the history of r0adkill? The founding corps are ex-SA. We have always had a home in Stain. When SA folded and we formed o.0 we needed a new home, that simple. And btw, the part of Geminate we claim was all but deserted when we scouted it, belive me, I was the scout. Then 2-3 days before we where supposed to move in to TDE4 RATEL moved in and dropped their egg.

As for SMASH, as long as Ive known them they have been trying to claim a home. Pretty hard with a small alliance that gets blobbed by BoBFIX.

Again I wish to send my respect and thanks to our friends and foes that you are very civil ppl that dont fall for this dudes trolling.

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This made me laugh heartily.

Are you seriously saying that Smash was not part of the gangbang of FIX and OMFG they were blobbed by BoBFIX? Oh, and yes, I agree, Roadkill was formed after SA was pretty much "killed off" by BoB due to diplomatic inadequacies in SA leadership, correct?

Please, cry me a river.

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Originally by: Orc A

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Sounds like FiX needs another spanky.
Roadkill Roadtrip anyone? :p

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Originally by: Dragerest

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what is happening over in Geminate?

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Originally by: Dirtball

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Originally by: Dragerest

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what is happening over in Geminate?

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I think peeps waste 45 minutes to go 11 jumps get one kill then go 45 minutes back if I'm not mistaken. At least thats what gem has been like for the last 2 years, possibly the most boring region in all of eve.

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Originally by: Dragerest

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and it turns into a bob thread.. thats great. looking forward to more of RK t1 fleet. and smash's stabbed out carriers

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Originally by: Rutoo

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Originally by: Grimslaw

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We have Irrefutable Proof that they (Smash + Roadkill) have a large 'Weapons of Mass Seduction' Program in operation ;-)

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Who Told you about Mrtriggerhappy?

i was trying to keep it a secret.....

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Originally by: Arakk

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indeed, nothing spells weakness of an alliance by starting a war with numbers and territory in their favor, and then needing more and more and more help. some strength and dignity would have been displayed had they given up after they had 4 alliances fighting for them, for the war they started with people that had no intention of invading them.

started cdc/pure/eu vs smash/rk ,
now its cdc/pure/eu/ratel/astral wolves/ arrow project(?)/ D2, vs smash/rk

like i said in a different thread, its alot of people helping the weakest runt of geminate stage a war that A.) didnt need to be had, and B.) will ultimately weaken geminate on the brink of a release of alot of new space come kali.

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Originally by: Ceratin

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Originally by: Arakk

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indeed, nothing spells weakness of an alliance by starting a war with numbers and territory in their favor, and then needing more and more and more help. some strength and dignity would have been displayed had they given up after they had 4 alliances fighting for them, for the war they started with people that had no intention of invading them.

started cdc/pure/eu vs smash/rk ,
now its cdc/pure/eu/ratel/astral wolves/ arrow project(?)/ D2, vs smash/rk

like i said in a different thread, its alot of people helping the weakest runt of geminate stage a war that A.) didnt need to be had, and B.) will ultimately weaken geminate on the brink of a release of alot of new space come kali.

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Actually it started more like ER vs RK&SMASH with RATEL thrown into the mix,
yet you didnt see them on the forums complaining about numbers when it was 1 corp
vs 3 alliances

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Originally by: Arakk

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indeed, nothing spells weakness of an alliance by starting a war with numbers and territory in their favor, and then needing more and more and more help. some strength and dignity would have been displayed had they given up after they had 4 alliances fighting for them, for the war they started with people that had no intention of invading them.

started cdc/pure/eu vs smash/rk ,
now its cdc/pure/eu/ratel/astral wolves/ arrow project(?)/ D2, vs smash/rk

like i said in a different thread, its alot of people helping the weakest runt of geminate stage a war that A.) didnt need to be had, and B.) will ultimately weaken geminate on the brink of a release of alot of new space come kali.

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Originally by: heidrun

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dont flatter yourself smash/rk.your not fighting all these alliances.they have sent some pilots to have some fun and thats it.98% of the pilots in these alliances are busy doing theire own things elsewhere.

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Originally by: heidrun

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dont flatter yourself smash/rk.your not fighting all these alliances.they have sent some pilots to have some fun and thats it.98% of the pilots in these alliances are busy doing theire own things elsewhere.

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Originally by: God's Army

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Originally by: heidrun

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dont flatter yourself smash/rk.your not fighting all these alliances.they have sent some pilots to have some fun and thats it.98% of the pilots in these alliances are busy doing theire own things elsewhere.

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hey sir
wtf are u talking about? .. 210 man gang support fleet in local . blob the hell out of da system camping each gates with da stn.. and 35 dreads sieging da towers.. we were outnumberd 7:1 ^^

E-R
CDC
Pure.
Astral wolves
D2
NSN corp
and three more misc corps can't remember exactly.

so stfu

pfff , do they need more ppl to kick us outta ? lol

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"What goes around comes around"

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Originally by: Drantis

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Originally by: God's Army

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Originally by: heidrun

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dont flatter yourself smash/rk.your not fighting all these alliances.they have sent some pilots to have some fun and thats it.98% of the pilots in these alliances are busy doing theire own things elsewhere.

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hey sir
wtf are u talking about? .. 210 man gang support fleet in local . blob the hell out of da system camping each gates with da stn.. and 35 dreads sieging da towers.. we were outnumberd 7:1 ^^

E-R
CDC
Pure.
Astral wolves
D2
NSN corp
and three more misc corps can't remember exactly.

so stfu

pfff , do they need more ppl to kick us outta ? lol

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There is a kind of ironic overtone to this conflict especially when a member or I-EX and a member of smash - whine about being out blobed and being out-allianced to some of the very people they out blobbed and out-allianced in querious 6 months ago.

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dont flatter yourself smash/rk.your not fighting all these alliances.they have sent some pilots to have some fun and thats it.98% of the pilots in these alliances are busy doing theire own things elsewhere.

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looking forward to more of RK t1 fleet.

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Originally by: Peoke

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thisis actually fun seems 2 dead worth less alliances need 5300+ members to try and evict them from a corner of space. thanks d2 for coming to save one of the top 5 best pvp alliances in eve, i really dont want EU to be religated to the bottom where they belong

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Originally by: End Yourself

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hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!

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Both we+SMASH and ER, CDC, PURE, D2, RATEL and everyone else is quite happy to sort our differences on the server. Thank you all for not making this a BoB/FIX/blah blah-war fought primarilly on the forums.

Cya in space.

My 8 cent.

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Originally by: Peoke

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thisis actually fun seems 2 dead worth less alliances need 5300+ members to try and evict them from a corner of space. thanks d2 for coming to save one of the top 5 best pvp alliances in eve, i really dont want EU to be religated to the bottom where they belong

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Originally by: Turix

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The war is fought on TQ not the forums - stop wasting everyones time with bull****.

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Originally by: Turix

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I dont want another Bob & Fix forum war again, it was the south vs us once before i dont want another Eve vs US situation again.

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Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar

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GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.

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Originally by: Ceratin

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Actually it started more like ER vs RK&SMASH with RATEL thrown into the mix,
yet you didnt see them on the forums complaining about numbers when it was 1 corp
vs 3 alliances

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Originally by: Rutoo

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There will be no more r0adkill responces in this thread, Hopefully Smash, and E-R and friends will do the same.....no promises though

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Originally by: Nesa

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Originally by: Ceratin

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Actually it started more like ER vs RK&SMASH with RATEL thrown into the mix,
yet you didnt see them on the forums complaining about numbers when it was 1 corp
vs 3 alliances

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Actually it started like RK&SMASH vs RATEL and allies...

ER attacked SMASH & RK... D2 hasn't been asked down to help them 'defend' they started this, E-R was just happilly gate ganking in BWF, and someone had the idea that they should attack SMASH....

So, SMASH beat off E-R...

So E-R goes running and crying to Pure & CDC, and again Pure & CDC enter the fight

So SMASH and RK beat off CDC/Pure...

So E-R goes running and crying to D2, so D2 enters the fight..

All this, for something that E-R started....

So don't talking about '1 corp' vs 3 ? who's the third? there was only SMASH / RK until last week....

Anyway, no one's complaining about numbers, we just find it funny that two very small alliances, bring the wrath of the northern half of Eve, because '1 corp' decided to attack them.

Not only that, but you then ally with RATEL again. Which means one of two things:

- RATEL got on their knees and accepted the offer from E-R, which was no better than the offer SMASH gave them months ago.

- E-R gave them a better offer, which frankly I find amazing, that you would even need to do such a thing with all that other backing.

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Originally by: Liet Traep

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Smash are not friendly to D2. E-R, CDC, Pure are friendly to D2. Now who would D2 prefer to have established in Geminate....... I don't know why Smash is complaining about D2 involvement.The Northern alliances have a well established tradition of working together and E-R are ex D2 members who left on friendly terms. What did you expect?

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Originally by: Extorque

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I doubt ER, CDC & Pure and the other PVP forces in and around Geminate would want to associate themselves with an alliance that uses the fabled warp core stabilizer as its alliance logo, and on pretty much every ship it uses.

If I was part of an alliance that is fairly well known as a decent pvp corp I wouldn't want it to be dragged under by a bunch of new members stabbing everything up, logging off in battles and getting over excited on the forums every two days

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Originally by: Arakk

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Originally by: Extorque

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I doubt ER, CDC & Pure and the other PVP forces in and around Geminate would want to associate themselves with an alliance that uses the fabled warp core stabilizer as its alliance logo, and on pretty much every ship it uses.

If I was part of an alliance that is fairly well known as a decent pvp corp I wouldn't want it to be dragged under by a bunch of new members stabbing everything up, logging off in battles and getting over excited on the forums every two days

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i assume thats a joke...as our icon is a joke, we've been working on making another one i think...we use stabs no more than er does.

as far as log off tactics we've never received an order or so much as a suggestion to do so. ive only personally done it once, and it was yesterday in n-rael against a 25+ man lv camp that probably should have been defending -v- space. i hear they camp there to "blcok ra reinforcements" lol @ that... i wonder why i also lost a badger to 2 lv pirating in low sec 3 jumps from eurgrana, must be worried about reinforcements there too.

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Originally by: Arakk

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Edited by: Arakk on 12/11/2006 18:06:02
yeah i could be mistaken...i think that was one of our moving carriers...gets to be a real pain if youre jumping back and forth combat stuff from lowsec and you get scrambled, thats not how theyre fitted for combat :)

i think to date tho ive only encountered 1 er hac that didnt have at least 1wcs on...almost let a raven get away that had 2 stabs a week or so ago...a week before that we had 4 points on one and it got away : / . not pointing fingers at anyone...just putting my hands down because theyre used pretty evenly in both alliances.

edit: and yeah i lost a scorp last week with 3 stabs fitted...**** slow buggar! hehe only time i use em is when im out soloing for shts and giggles or theres goingt o be a long fight and i need to be able to warp in and out in a cruiser or something.

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Originally by: Bishop D'Rohan

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Originally by: Arakk

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Edited by: Arakk on 12/11/2006 18:06:02
yeah i could be mistaken...i think that was one of our moving carriers...gets to be a real pain if youre jumping back and forth combat stuff from lowsec and you get scrambled, thats not how theyre fitted for combat :)

i think to date tho ive only encountered 1 er hac that didnt have at least 1wcs on...almost let a raven get away that had 2 stabs a week or so ago...a week before that we had 4 points on one and it got away : / . not pointing fingers at anyone...just putting my hands down because theyre used pretty evenly in both alliances.

edit: and yeah i lost a scorp last week with 3 stabs fitted...**** slow buggar! hehe only time i use em is when im out soloing for shts and giggles or theres goingt o be a long fight and i need to be able to warp in and out in a cruiser or something.

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Dude, you are not winning the war by whining on the forums...

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Originally by: Arakk

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Edited by: Arakk on 12/11/2006 18:11:08
scrambled and cant warp, so you'd have to dock right? docking disrupts your ability to do your work jumping/collecting mods from different pos's and stations...there you have it.

its not so you dont lose the ship its so you dont have to screw around when ajob needs to be done.

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Originally by: Extorque

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I doubt ER, CDC & Pure and the other PVP forces in and around Geminate would want to associate themselves with an alliance that uses the fabled warp core stabilizer as its alliance logo, and on pretty much every ship it uses.

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Originally by: Kirex

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Originally by: Extorque

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I doubt ER, CDC & Pure and the other PVP forces in and around Geminate would want to associate themselves with an alliance that uses the fabled warp core stabilizer as its alliance logo, and on pretty much every ship it uses.

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I never use WCS and I find the wcs logo funny...Its not like ER, CDC, PURE, D2, Ratel, Astral Wolves, and other peeps ER requested help from dont use them.

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Originally by: End Yourself

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hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!

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Originally by: Laythun

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Wait i thought it was all about goats and sheep?

Smash and RK stole Naths new Goat, so the supplies of lube were cut off to all systems north of IPS, and a rescue party was sent after the goat.

So far Smash still havnt released the goat, so the expert negotiators from D2 are trying to mediate a solution.

All this rubbish about stations and trash and reps is BS, its all about the Goats

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Originally by: Orc A

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not my fault though, it was the stuck up arrogant leadership of FIX that has now split off to form there own little alliance called.. errr.. you figure it out..

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Unlike the remaining FiX, they preserved their honour and chose exile over bending over for uncle BoB.
For that, they gained the one thing FiX never managed to gain(from their enemies) - Respect.

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Originally by: Droewa

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FIX never blobed smash with BOB. Infact I tried my damedest to get FIX to work with Smash only to be told by the oh so great Nez that Smash where scum and If FIX was to work with them we would be looked down apoun by the Eve comunity.. so yea FIX left Smash high and dry after they spent months fighting SA and working with FIX durring the seconds FIX SA war. not my fault though, it was the stuck up arrogant leadership of FIX that has now split off to form there own little alliance called.. errr.. you figure it out..

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Edited by: Nez Perces on 14/11/2006 03:39:28

Originally by: Droewa

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FIX never blobed smash with BOB. Infact I tried my damedest to get FIX to work with Smash only to be told by the oh so great Nez that Smash where scum and If FIX was to work with them we would be looked down apoun by the Eve comunity.. so yea FIX left Smash high and dry after they spent months fighting SA and working with FIX durring the seconds FIX SA war. not my fault though, it was the stuck up arrogant leadership of FIX that has now split off to form there own little alliance called.. errr.. you figure it out..

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oooh.. just noticed this post...

Care to explain yourself Droewa.. Why are you talking about me in this thread? I've never called Smash scum.. at the very most they may have been an unsuitable partner for FIX .. nearly 2 years ago... which has bugger all to do with anything going in Geminate atm or with what happened to FIX in the final stages of the CODA war.. at which time I had already been out of FIX and inactive for 6 months.

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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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We pride ourselves on the accuracy of our Killboard, if you feel any losses are missing feel free to Email me, or any of the directors and CEO the details and we look into it, I think you'll find it's a lot more effective than making forum warrior posts here.

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Originally by: TX 01

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Edited by: TX 01 on 15/11/2006 21:31:12

Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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We pride ourselves on the accuracy of our Killboard, if you feel any losses are missing feel free to Email me, or any of the directors and CEO the details and we look into it, I think you'll find it's a lot more effective than making forum warrior posts here.

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I see the accuracy suffered a bit on the move to a new kb... oh my i'm a forum warrior look at me ma...

If you search me up you will see i don't post much on forum except if really needed.. i sadly can say this is the case here...

e-r can't even take the dirty laundry out themselfes..

oh well enough time waisted...

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Originally by: DirtyHarry

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Originally by: TX 01

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Edited by: TX 01 on 15/11/2006 21:31:40
Edited by: TX 01 on 15/11/2006 21:31:12

Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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We pride ourselves on the accuracy of our Killboard, if you feel any losses are missing feel free to Email me, or any of the directors and CEO the details and we look into it, I think you'll find it's a lot more effective than making forum warrior posts here.

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I see the accuracy suffered a bit on the move to a new kb... oh my i'm a forum warrior look at me ma...

If you search me up you will see i don't post much on forum except if really needed.. i sadly can say this is the case here...

e-r can't even take the dirty laundry out themselfes..

oh well enough time waisted...

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Ill second that for sure

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Edited by: TX 01 on 15/11/2006 21:31:12

Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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We pride ourselves on the accuracy of our Killboard, if you feel any losses are missing feel free to Email me, or any of the directors and CEO the details and we look into it, I think you'll find it's a lot more effective than making forum warrior posts here.

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I see the accuracy suffered a bit on the move to a new kb... oh my i'm a forum warrior look at me ma...

If you search me up you will see i don't post much on forum except if really needed.. i sadly can say this is the case here...

e-r can't even take the dirty laundry out themselfes..

oh well enough time waisted...

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Originally by: oodin

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Originally by: DirtyHarry

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Originally by: TX 01

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Edited by: TX 01 on 15/11/2006 21:31:40
Edited by: TX 01 on 15/11/2006 21:31:12

Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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We pride ourselves on the accuracy of our Killboard, if you feel any losses are missing feel free to Email me, or any of the directors and CEO the details and we look into it, I think you'll find it's a lot more effective than making forum warrior posts here.

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I see the accuracy suffered a bit on the move to a new kb... oh my i'm a forum warrior look at me ma...

If you search me up you will see i don't post much on forum except if really needed.. i sadly can say this is the case here...

e-r can't even take the dirty laundry out themselfes..

oh well enough time waisted...

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Ill second that for sure

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maybe you should rename your campaign on your killboard from E-R to bwf residents.
you know it and we know it,that FE cloaks in safespot when e-r forces enters local.except ofc if theres a cheap gank then you come out before hurrying back to ss and cloak. point is,dont claim it as e-r campaign.if its the alliance your after then the correct tag is E-U

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Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar

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GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.

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Originally by: Cartiff

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Edited by: Cartiff on 16/11/2006 04:20:38
Firstly F-E, your not a primary concern, carry on ganking, we're busy elsewhere.

Secondly, props to RK, they know how to bring it and they do regulary, both sides are enjoying this war.
Respect to RK

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Originally by: Onchas Erivvia

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I just a lowly director in a SMASH corp, but it seems to me with all this common respect between the combatants (with the exception of the usual type-A asshats who can't seem to turn it off ... ever), it's a bit of a shame that there isn't a diplomatic effort being made to get us all just to work together. Kali's going to encourage a pretty big movement of people through the Geminate area as they look to head to the new territory. It seems to me it's in all our best interest to consolidate and work together.

I understand Ratel has their pride wounded, but it's not like they weren't given fair warning ahead of time, nor like they weren't given an offer to work together. They chose to fight that war, not us. ER, Roadkill, SMASH, CDC, Pure, and even Ratel have very compatible goals and there's plenty of land nearby. A coalition between those forces could do a hell of a lot to help us all control the new territory.

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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"offers" you gave to RATEL where ultimatums and plain out blackmail. if anything, RATEL should be commended for telling you all to just eff off. as a result of this, SMASH spent several months managing to do absolutely nothing in TDE, until the grand POS spammage occurred.

now, after all the trash talking and rubbish, you want peace and "lets work together"

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Originally by: Onchas Erivvia

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That's a particularly one-sided interpretation of events, but nor do you actually refute the points made. You're just spewing out your own rhetorical twist. Seeing as you're not in the alliances involved, you have no vested interest in the evaluations and have no business to evaluate the negotiation. Bottomline, Ratel were given fair warning and an offer was made to work together. They chose war instead. You've not bothered to refute the facts, just ignorantly try to assert your own opinion.

This kind of unflinching inflexibility, however, that leads to these sorts of ongoing wastages of time and resources. I have no idea why you're so obviously personally invested in this situation and have decided to play forum warrior, but seeing as you have no direct membership in the organizations involved you should, frankly, mind your own business. Or is there a reason why you're scared to see an actual reconcilliation here?

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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what you call inflexibility, some call integrity. thats what separates the rabble from people i like to fly with.

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Originally by: Mr Vrix

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To be fair Nahia, Onchas was just airing his opinion. He would like to look beyond the fighting that is currently taking palce, and can see a vision of teh region being a major hub of activity when Kali finally hits. Nothing more.
Alliances are made up of all sorts of people, they can not run without some input from every aspect of the game.

Take a VERY carebear and rose tinted glass's look at the situation.

SMASH have TDE, RK have K25, say EU take a neighbouring system,Ratel another,heck even D2 take one. All working towards one goal, looking after the region when the new systems come out, working to a common goal.

Some will say, yep thats for me! Others will say, uh? excuse me? where are the targets! Both are valid ways of playing the game, they just do not suit everyone.

From the limited fighting I have had in the area, I have been pleased to see hardly any smacktalk in local. between fights it has been all laughing and joking when I have been there.

Whatever the eventual outcome, I hope everyone can say its been fun so far:).

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Originally by: Onchas Erivvia

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I'm embarassed at how long it took me to figure-out that you're just a troll. Nobody's begging for peace.

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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also, if it will make you feel better, i will change "begging" into "asking".

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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Originally by: Onchas Erivvia

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I just a lowly director in a SMASH corp, but it seems to me with all this common respect between the combatants (with the exception of the usual type-A asshats who can't seem to turn it off ... ever), it's a bit of a shame that there isn't a diplomatic effort being made to get us all just to work together. Kali's going to encourage a pretty big movement of people through the Geminate area as they look to head to the new territory. It seems to me it's in all our best interest to consolidate and work together.

I understand Ratel has their pride wounded, but it's not like they weren't given fair warning ahead of time, nor like they weren't given an offer to work together. They chose to fight that war, not us. ER, Roadkill, SMASH, CDC, Pure, and even Ratel have very compatible goals and there's plenty of land nearby. A coalition between those forces could do a hell of a lot to help us all control the new territory.

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"offers" you gave to RATEL where ultimatums and plain out blackmail. if anything, RATEL should be commended for telling you all to just eff off. as a result of this, SMASH spent several months managing to do absolutely nothing in TDE, until the grand POS spammage occurred.

now, after all the trash talking and rubbish, you want peace and "lets work together"

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Originally by: Onchas Erivvia

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Okay, maybe you're not a troll, maybe you're just stupid. It's so hard to tell sometimes.

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do you deny asking for all parties involved to make peace and not war, meaning to stop attacking you? also, why do you think d2 camp should stop attacking you now and share profits with you?

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Originally by: Onchas Erivvia

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Edited by: Onchas Erivvia on 17/11/2006 21:44:37
I didn't attack you. You are either a troll or not smart. It's simply an empirical observation without value judgement based on the content of your posts; there are only two options to explain your lack of acknowledgement of what's been written: you are either unwilling to or unable to. The fact that you figured-out how to turn on your computer and log into this forum suggests the problem isn't a lack of intelligence, but one must leave the possibilty open as it is a logical possibility.

However, it's a bit late in the game for you to be hopping on any sort of moral high-horse on forum behaviour.

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do you deny asking for all parties involved to make peace and not war, meaning to stop attacking you? also, why do you think d2 camp should stop attacking you now and share profits with you?

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Maybe your problem is that you just need a hug.

[/me unzips fly and runs towards Nahia with arms open]

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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Originally by: Onchas Erivvia

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Edited by: Onchas Erivvia on 17/11/2006 21:44:37
I didn't attack you. You are either a troll or not smart. It's simply an empirical observation without value judgement based on the content of your posts; there are only two options to explain your lack of acknowledgement of what's been written: you are either unwilling to or unable to. The fact that you figured-out how to turn on your computer and log into this forum suggests the problem isn't a lack of intelligence, but one must leave the possibilty open as it is a logical possibility.

However, it's a bit late in the game for you to be hopping on any sort of moral high-horse on forum behaviour.

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do you deny asking for all parties involved to make peace and not war, meaning to stop attacking you? also, why do you think d2 camp should stop attacking you now and share profits with you?

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Maybe your problem is that you just need a hug.

[/me unzips fly and runs towards Nahia with arms open]

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so you spiced up your personal attacks with some sexual harassment as well

there you go, quoted just in case you decide to delete it later.

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Originally by: Peoke

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This is a great show of how arm chair forum idiots who arnt in the conflict or even better in the talks between alliane heads is. Ratel was told not to put outpost before it was set up they chose to see if they could hold it and be a 0.0 alliance. Then we came and like usual we were outnumbered. We didnt whine or complian we chipped away at ratel The shadow assencion F-E and Wreck. then the omg tower spam. People fail to see that ratel had 22 pos up anyway, and were to cheap/lazy to cover 50% so we saw this and took advantage. Now what people also fial to see is that it only took 1 week for even the most dedicated ratel to leave tde and go to empire/ ebtry 0.0 to plan a new attack. Most 0.0 alliance would lose space and stay for a good while taking it back or causeing enough trouble that it wasnt worth it. Also the heads of ratel figured we were here for fun and would leave after 7 dread losses we didnt and own tde. So this will explain the past and the future will be like xzh. just a war of attrition and who has more will to recharge pos.

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Originally by: Will Fireblade

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To SMASH if i had to fight you again i would definitely run for the hills as your log off tactics and the shield tank scorpions scare me to hell.

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It is a poor sort of man who is content to be spoon-fed knowledge that has been filtered through the canon of religious or political belief

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Originally by: juduzz

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Originally by: Will Fireblade

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Lets not turn this into a mudfest plz. Your playing style has nothing to do with this, i didnt say you were lame but the truth is that you are not hurting us cus all our pilots are on the frontline.

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Originally by: Crypt

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I don't speak for anyone in Ratel and my opinions are my own so lets get that out of the way first and foremost here. I speak for me and my views are my own!

As for aligning with Smash or Roadkill I doubt it would ever happen, as for myself personally I would go join another corp/alliance if Ratel chose to align with them and I know I'm not alone in that. Roadkill were blue to us at one time and were in TDE when they chose to turn enemy and shoot blue without warning, that to me ended any possibility of ever trusting them or flying beside them. Smash is too arrogant, to willing to tlak smack, untrustworthy and oh so full of themselves to ever be anything other than an enemy. That and their tactics are as cheap as they come. Spam as many cans as possible everywhere they can to create as much lag as they can, crash the node or at least attempt to do so as often as possible so they don't lose any of their precious POS'es etc..etc..etc. Like I said cheap.

There are a number of good pilots and a number of decent personalities in both Smash and Roadkill so not all of them can be painted with this brush of disdain, but there aren't enough of them that are decent to offset the amount of scrubs they do have so I'd never fly beside them for all the isk in china. I'd be too worried about getting shot in the back.

As I said earlier I am not a leader of Ratel and I speak for nobody but myself here.

Good luck to all involved and if you fly for the other side may you die screaming as I pound your pod into oblivion.

Cya in space.

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Originally by: USN CVN72

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This Ratel pilot has no clue who Smash and Roadkill are...

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Originally by: End Yourself

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hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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Originally by: USN CVN72

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This Ratel pilot has no clue who Smash and Roadkill are...

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lets be fair ...

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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...SMASH's level of petty smack and personal attacks.

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Originally by: Orbital Drift

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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...SMASH's level of petty smack and personal attacks.

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Sorry Nahia, this is a stereotyping argument and therefore fallacious. No points for you (and frankly, I think you should lose points for poor style throughout the entire thread).

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Originally by: End Yourself

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hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!

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Originally by: Dragerest

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Originally by: Orbital Drift

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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...SMASH's level of petty smack and personal attacks.

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Sorry Nahia, this is a stereotyping argument and therefore fallacious. No points for you (and frankly, I think you should lose points for poor style throughout the entire thread).

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...before come on here and saying something as DUMB as that...so please shut that hole you call a mouth, and the crap that falls out of it all the time.

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Originally by: Dragerest

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i guess after years in the sewer the rat doesn't smell it's unpleasant stench.

if you couldn't see all the filth that was being said friday night, you may want to clear your eyes.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Is your "argument", if it can even remotely be construed as that, leading somewhere? Or is it merely just:

"Some guys in SMASH-alliance smack in local"

Well boo-hoo. Some do, most don't. If you've got anything really interesting to discuss, then fine - do so. Otherwise, stick to fighting. You're a hell of a lot better at that.

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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you guys have just recently joined SMASH... still, good luck

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Originally by: Crypt

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I don't speak for anyone in Ratel and my opinions are my own so lets get that out of the way first and foremost here. I speak for me and my views are my own!

As for aligning with Smash or Roadkill I doubt it would ever happen, as for myself personally I would go join another corp/alliance if Ratel chose to align with them and I know I'm not alone in that. Roadkill were blue to us at one time and were in TDE when they chose to turn enemy and shoot blue without warning, that to me ended any possibility of ever trusting them or flying beside them. Smash is too arrogant, to willing to tlak smack, untrustworthy and oh so full of themselves to ever be anything other than an enemy. That and their tactics are as cheap as they come. Spam as many cans as possible everywhere they can to create as much lag as they can, crash the node or at least attempt to do so as often as possible so they don't lose any of their precious POS'es etc..etc..etc. Like I said cheap.

There are a number of good pilots and a number of decent personalities in both Smash and Roadkill so not all of them can be painted with this brush of disdain, but there aren't enough of them that are decent to offset the amount of scrubs they do have so I'd never fly beside them for all the isk in china. I'd be too worried about getting shot in the back.

As I said earlier I am not a leader of Ratel and I speak for nobody but myself here.

Good luck to all involved and if you fly for the other side may you die screaming as I pound your pod into oblivion.

Cya in space.

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Originally by: heidrun

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a little bird told me

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Originally by: heidrun

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a little bird told me that KOS/SMASH/RK had theire eyes set on bwf in the end so no wonder e-r and friends attacked you if they had same info.

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Originally by: heidrun

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a little bird told me that KOS/SMASH/RK had theire eyes set on bwf in the end so no wonder e-r and friends attacked you if they had same info.

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Originally by: Cl0nED

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Originally by: heidrun

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a little bird told me that KOS/SMASH/RK had theire eyes set on bwf in the end so no wonder e-r and friends attacked you if they had same info.

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Ya and it would be fun if we had the whole pipeline, control over N-Rael and perfect control over FDZ... Me thinks this little bird listens too much to the disgruntled people that tried to go thru BWF on Euro time =P

Im more industrial minded and find wars distasteful (when Im involved in it that is =P ) Still fight, admire some E-R players.... just find it ironic that in all their former glory they go fetch bigger friends to fight their war. (Apperently Cdc/Pure. wasnt enough =P, now 5 alliances on 3 =P )

*Always outgunned, never Outmatched*

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Originally by: Graalum

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Originally by: Crypt

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I don't speak for anyone in Ratel and my opinions are my own so lets get that out of the way first and foremost here. I speak for me and my views are my own!

As for aligning with Smash or Roadkill I doubt it would ever happen, as for myself personally I would go join another corp/alliance if Ratel chose to align with them and I know I'm not alone in that. Roadkill were blue to us at one time and were in TDE when they chose to turn enemy and shoot blue without warning, that to me ended any possibility of ever trusting them or flying beside them. Smash is too arrogant, to willing to tlak smack, untrustworthy and oh so full of themselves to ever be anything other than an enemy. That and their tactics are as cheap as they come. Spam as many cans as possible everywhere they can to create as much lag as they can, crash the node or at least attempt to do so as often as possible so they don't lose any of their precious POS'es etc..etc..etc. Like I said cheap.

There are a number of good pilots and a number of decent personalities in both Smash and Roadkill so not all of them can be painted with this brush of disdain, but there aren't enough of them that are decent to offset the amount of scrubs they do have so I'd never fly beside them for all the isk in china. I'd be too worried about getting shot in the back.

As I said earlier I am not a leader of Ratel and I speak for nobody but myself here.

Good luck to all involved and if you fly for the other side may you die screaming as I pound your pod into oblivion.

Cya in space.

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You should go back to raging, that was a cool corp

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Originally by: Darineah Charach

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Firstly, KOS were'nt around when E-R invaded, so the idea of us all planning a takeover of BWF is silly.
Also, a lot of members wanted us to take E-R out of BWF cos it was bloody painful trying to get through there.

So, why did E-R attack?

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