• When life gives you lemons, make lemonade


• The word "crisis" is just another way to spell "opportunity"

• Choose your battles wisely. Don't attack your enemy when he is strong, attack him while he is weak. Forget honorable combat. Do everything (that doesn't involve hacking, or breaking the EULA) that is in your power to win. Example, don't take on a gang of 20 cruisers against your 20 frigates. But DO take on a gang of 1-3 cruisers against your 20 frigates.



• Be sure to share intel between corp members. If you get blown up by the enemy, tell your corp when and where it happened. Keep note of this information, as you may be able to use it to your advantage. Try to figure out when and where your enemy is active.



• Attack your enemies supply lines. If you know your enemy does missions in a certain system, learn how to probe out missions. Camp the gates in that system so that you can kill them when they have to do a mission in a neighbor system



• A mistake is only a mistake if you do not learn from it. You must gain wisdom from your own defeats. Instead of wallowing in self-pity, analyze a lost battle. Determine what it is that you could do to improve, and what you can do to win the next battle.

Originally by: Taedrin

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Edited by: Taedrin on 10/11/2006 18:42:49
You have a couple of choices before you:

1) Take the war in stride, and engage your aggressors.
2) Hide
3) Disband

I'll presume that (3) is not an option.

The easiest thing to do would be to take option (2). The way you hide is by spreading your entire corp out amongst all of empire. This strategy follows the idea that if your enemy can't find you, the enemy can't kill you. And if your enemy does find one of you, the enemy hasn't found all of you. Remain like this for as long as the war dec lasts. Each week of the war costs your aggressors money, and while it's not a lot, sooner or later, your enemy will fold. Make a game out of it - how much money can you make them waste on the war dec, while not being able to find any of you?

Option (1) is considered a lot more honorable, but may not be viable since you don't have much experience. However, this can be a good thing for you. There are 2 little bits of wisdom that apply here:

• When life gives you lemons, make lemonade


• The word "crisis" is just another way to spell "opportunity"

The idea here is that you need to take this war dec, and turn it into a learning experience. Teach yourselves how to PvP. Get everyone to jump into their T1 frigs and have fun. Granted, because you are so much weaker than your opponent, you need to learn some tactics. Read up on Sun Tzu's Art of War - lots of wisdom to be found there. A few strategies to get you started:

• Choose your battles wisely. Don't attack your enemy when he is strong, attack him while he is weak. Forget honorable combat. Do everything (that doesn't involve hacking, or breaking the EULA) that is in your power to win. Example, don't take on a gang of 20 cruisers against your 20 frigates. But DO take on a gang of 1-3 cruisers against your 20 frigates.



• Be sure to share intel between corp members. If you get blown up by the enemy, tell your corp when and where it happened. Keep note of this information, as you may be able to use it to your advantage. Try to figure out when and where your enemy is active.



• Attack your enemies supply lines. If you know your enemy does missions in a certain system, learn how to probe out missions. Camp the gates in that system so that you can kill them when they have to do a mission in a neighbor system



• A mistake is only a mistake if you do not learn from it. You must gain wisdom from your own defeats. Instead of wallowing in self-pity, analyze a lost battle. Determine what it is that you could do to improve, and what you can do to win the next battle.

That's all for now...

[EDIT] improved layout a bit by adding a bit of whitespace

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Originally by: Senn Stoll

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Hey guys,

I'm ceo of a corp that helps noobs into the game. Most of my guys are in their trial, and in frigates.

Last night, we got warrdecced by some other high sec corp for no reason. I've heard nothing from any of the other corp, and as far as i know they are just out to cause trouble and kill some noobs.

We would appreciate any hints, tips and aid that anyone wants to give us. I had heard of newb corps getting warrdecced like this in the past, but honestly thought people were above such childish tactics.

Again, help would be appreciated. You can contact me via eve mail or PM in game.

Thanks,

Yesef Tiire.

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Originally by: xenorx

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Well Taedrin wrapped up your options beutifully for you. Very nice post. Very rare to see on these forums anymore.

I suggest taking his advice to heart and treat this as an opportunity. Since most of your members are very green they do not have very much to lose. Face it T1 frigates and clones are cheap. However, fun and experience to be gained is priceless. A single frigate is a weak target, but a group of them swarming a target is lethal.

I expect that your members will have a ball and will be more inclined to renew thier accounts if they are getting a little more excitment than just dragging veldspar into a can. Point is that the players who fight together become a stronger group and will make your corp stronger to the core.

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Originally by: Yesef Tiire

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Edited by: Yesef Tiire on 10/11/2006 20:43:43
Ladies and Gents,

Thanks for the replys and the advice.

2006.11.10 01:42
Veterans Of Liberation has declared war on Net Profit Training.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.

Thats the shock I got when I logged in today. No reason, no contact, no need. Again, I'll contact those that offered help, and any other support would be much appreciated.

EDIT: We're based in Laah, in Caldari space.

Thanks,

Yesef Tiire

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Originally by: INZi

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u all turned into "we'll help you out little buddy" all off the sudden? "it aent gunna cost a single dime."
let him deal with his own problems, eve's a nasty world this is somewhere close to humanity. and it stinks.

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Originally by: Xanja

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Originally by: Taedrin

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Edited by: Taedrin on 10/11/2006 18:42:49
You have a couple of choices before you:

1) Take the war in stride, and engage your aggressors.
2) Hide
3) Disband

I'll presume that (3) is not an option.

The easiest thing to do would be to take option (2). The way you hide is by spreading your entire corp out amongst all of empire. This strategy follows the idea that if your enemy can't find you, the enemy can't kill you. And if your enemy does find one of you, the enemy hasn't found all of you. Remain like this for as long as the war dec lasts. Each week of the war costs your aggressors money, and while it's not a lot, sooner or later, your enemy will fold. Make a game out of it - how much money can you make them waste on the war dec, while not being able to find any of you?

Option (1) is considered a lot more honorable, but may not be viable since you don't have much experience. However, this can be a good thing for you. There are 2 little bits of wisdom that apply here:

• When life gives you lemons, make lemonade


• The word "crisis" is just another way to spell "opportunity"

The idea here is that you need to take this war dec, and turn it into a learning experience. Teach yourselves how to PvP. Get everyone to jump into their T1 frigs and have fun. Granted, because you are so much weaker than your opponent, you need to learn some tactics. Read up on Sun Tzu's Art of War - lots of wisdom to be found there. A few strategies to get you started:

• Choose your battles wisely. Don't attack your enemy when he is strong, attack him while he is weak. Forget honorable combat. Do everything (that doesn't involve hacking, or breaking the EULA) that is in your power to win. Example, don't take on a gang of 20 cruisers against your 20 frigates. But DO take on a gang of 1-3 cruisers against your 20 frigates.



• Be sure to share intel between corp members. If you get blown up by the enemy, tell your corp when and where it happened. Keep note of this information, as you may be able to use it to your advantage. Try to figure out when and where your enemy is active.



• Attack your enemies supply lines. If you know your enemy does missions in a certain system, learn how to probe out missions. Camp the gates in that system so that you can kill them when they have to do a mission in a neighbor system



• A mistake is only a mistake if you do not learn from it. You must gain wisdom from your own defeats. Instead of wallowing in self-pity, analyze a lost battle. Determine what it is that you could do to improve, and what you can do to win the next battle.

That's all for now...

[EDIT] improved layout a bit by adding a bit of whitespace

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I usually hardly post on these forums, but this rather insightfull post deserves a free bump.

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Originally by: Taedrin

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2) Hide

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Originally by: Karinith

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I'm not at war with you guys as well am I? If not then great! Mail me and Gabrial1 some details of your situation and we'll see what Repo can do for you.

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Originally by: Rabb Darktide

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Originally by: Taedrin

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2) Hide

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One of the funniest tactics I have heard about when noobs corps get deced is to just stay logged 23/7 and in station. Your enemies will camp the station you are in, waiting for you to undock, while not realizing you won't be home from work for 7 hours...

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