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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.09 16:56:00 -
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There are currently people on trade selling armageddons on trade channel, but are actually Omens (cruiser). So please check your items in the trade window BEFORE accpeting.
I saw some selling an arma cheap so i convo'd to see if it was a scam...
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Channelname: Soten'Ket conversation Listener: Amin Session started: 2003.11.09 16:16:40
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[ 2003.11.09 16:16:55 ] Amin > hey [ 2003.11.09 16:17:00 ] Amin > r selling an arma? [ 2003.11.09 16:17:11 ] Soten'Ket > yeah [ 2003.11.09 16:17:24 ] Soten'Ket > tash-murkon prime DED station if u want to buy [ 2003.11.09 16:17:49 ] Amin > i dont have, 50mil, but will u be interested in trading for something? [ 2003.11.09 16:18:20 ] Soten'Ket > no [ 2003.11.09 16:18:30 ] Amin > ok [ 2003.11.09 16:18:53 ] Amin > i have 45mil, [ 2003.11.09 16:19:10 ] Soten'Ket > that'll do if u collect [ 2003.11.09 16:19:16 ] Amin > ok i will [ 2003.11.09 16:19:20 ] Amin > omw [ 2003.11.09 16:19:27 ] Soten'Ket > ok [ 2003.11.09 16:20:19 ] Amin > b there in 4 jumps [ 2003.11.09 16:20:28 ] Soten'Ket > ok [ 2003.11.09 16:28:36 ] Soten'Ket > make me an offer [ 2003.11.09 16:29:26 ] Amin > 45mil like we agreed [ 2003.11.09 16:29:35 ] Soten'Ket > ok [ 2003.11.09 16:30:24 ] Soten'Ket > u going 2 put your money on the table? [ 2003.11.09 16:30:48 ] Amin > im wating to see the ship [ 2003.11.09 16:30:53 ] Soten'Ket > theres the arma [ 2003.11.09 16:31:05 ] Amin > there u go 1 isk [ 2003.11.09 16:31:15 ] Soten'Ket > thats not 45 [ 2003.11.09 16:31:25 ] Amin > oh [ 2003.11.09 16:31:37 ] Amin > but thats not an arma [ 2003.11.09 16:31:42 ] Soten'Ket > oh [ 2003.11.09 16:31:56 ] Amin > ok i'll give u 2 isk [ 2003.11.09 16:32:06 ] Soten'Ket > hmmm..... [ 2003.11.09 16:32:11 ] Soten'Ket > tempting
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So please check your items in the trade window BEFORE accepting.
Thankyou
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.09 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Amin on 09/11/2003 17:43:36 Latest one - Condor disguised as a Scorp
Scammer: Officer Cassius
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PussyCat I
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Posted - 2003.11.09 18:00:00 -
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Thx Amin
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.09 21:52:00 -
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Hahahaha when i heard of this, I tried it and it worked on the first try, made 45 mill off a Omen trade, ask Medievil Martin or something like that, forgot. ---
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.09 23:02:00 -
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Shame on u tank, always picking on noobs, tut tut.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.09 23:08:00 -
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Noobs with 45 mill? hmm, think more on the lines of common sense.. ---
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.09 23:34:00 -
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U mean lack off common sense
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Karol Kei
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Posted - 2003.11.10 09:02:00 -
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I thought one had to repackage the ships before moving them to trade window? A person just tried to sell me a condor as a scorpion. The item was named Scorpion, which had me somewhat surprised.
Unfortunately the person obviously didn't think my sense of humor was up to it, and logged off before we could both have a good laugh over this. Since he likely reads this thread, I am not holding a grudge, mate. And you can move the alt from the gate now, as well. ;)
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.10 09:35:00 -
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Quote: I thought one had to repackage the ships before moving them to trade window?
Nope. Although after a couple more of these threads, you probably will do.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.11.10 10:06:00 -
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If people are that stupid, they deserve to be scammed..
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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JW Booth
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Posted - 2003.11.10 13:02:00 -
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Edited by: JW Booth on 10/11/2003 13:03:22 I GOT SCAMMED!!!!
I am not a newb, just got overly busy at the time of the trade. Too damn many windows, too damn many convos, too damn many trades going on. The scam was for an Apocolypse.
Yeah, I knew that the guy caved a little too easy when I asked for 89mil. I knew that he was acting all newbish saying he got the ship from a friend who was quitting eve. I even knew to tell him to repackage the ship before I took it. And I knew to check info on EVERYTHING that you buy.
But Two people were tryingto trade with me buying my stuff, and three others were convoing me, and I just said "F' it.
89mil-3mil = 86million ISK down the crapper.
Thats a whole f'n week's worth of income dammit.
What a pi$$er.
So I went out and killed stuff.
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.10 13:34:00 -
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Sorry to hear that Booth, but thats the point, its only takes a split second mistake and you've lost alot of ISK.
Im not one of those ppl that think scammers should be banned by GM's as, in a way it, adds realism to Eve. But raising awareness of current scams might be a good idea for all traders.
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Mandros Aslay
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Posted - 2003.11.10 13:44:00 -
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IT made me look paranoid..
IT made the seller think I was mad...
But..
I said where ....I named the price and then we did the deal via the market ....
for 60M on a Skorp the seller will meet you most of the way......they want to sell 2 /3 jumps and a SELL order isnt gunna hurt them....is it .....
Ps. I am mad and paranoid ......who told me that ????!?!?!?!?
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Teeth
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Posted - 2003.11.10 16:58:00 -
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I saw the same people trying to scam (not that anyone doubted it). My main gripe is not that I'm gonna fall for it. It's that 1. People that fall for it are mostly going to be first time BS buyers. That's a huge loss for them.
2. Both scammers tried to sell to me. It took me all morning to find a good Battleship deal cause people like this were just wasting my time. Even if I'm not naive enough to fall for it, you still waste a good half an hour of my time to jump to your system and back and check the trade window and see a fricking omen or condor inside. I guess it's gonna be market transactions from here on for me.
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.10 17:05:00 -
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Quote: IT made me look paranoid..
IT made the seller think I was mad...
But..
I said where ....I named the price and then we did the deal via the market ....
for 60M on a Skorp the seller will meet you most of the way......they want to sell 2 /3 jumps and a SELL order isnt gunna hurt them....is it .....
Ps. I am mad and paranoid ......who told me that ????!?!?!?!?
Sorry i didnt understand a word of that
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.11.10 17:07:00 -
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Yeah I had a guy **probably** try to scam me last night on a Megathron BP. Guy named Robert Hanson (or something like that) was selling a ME3 megathron BP on trade channel, no price listed originally. When I convod him he initially asked for 12 mil. After I told him to go fly a kite, he re-convod me and said hed take 9 mil. Since pickup location was only a few jumps from my position, I said what the heck. I got to the system, and when he got there, we go to do the trade. Being halfway intelligent, I checked the BP stats and number of runs left, and discovered it had 0 runs remaining. Of course when I told Robert this, he freaked out saying something to the effect of "OMG I got ripped off.. I bought this BP from a guy earlier because he was selling it cheap". He may have been telling the truth, but cynicism says probably not. I hopped back in trade channel after that to see if hed try to sell it again to someone else. He was still in channel but didnt post again at least while I was still in there (course he probably noticed me back in there and knew Id call him out).
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.10 17:12:00 -
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Quote: I 1. People that fall for it are mostly going to be first time BS buyers. That's a huge loss for them.
Yes, thats my worry aswell, i see the new guys in our corp working for their first bs, mining for up to 3 weeks sometimes to get the cash. If someone like that was to get scammed i wouldnt be surprised if they quit eve all togther.
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Karol Kei
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Posted - 2003.11.10 17:53:00 -
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I am fairly sure that what saved me was the experience from other games. If that makes me stupid, like implied above, then so be it.
I was quite annoyed by the fact that I had to come all the way to see the condor, of course, but I can live with that. I could have taken the loss as well, even it is my first BS and I would have been broke.
I bought a real scorpion from a rudely named ;) but otherwisely outstanding character later on in a deal that was as perfect as it can be.
The wasted time part is something that even a good, experienced and not-stupid player can't avoid if this spreads much more, I think.
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Torik
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Posted - 2003.11.10 18:00:00 -
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Ah, the old bait-and-switch scam. I first encountered it in Diablo 2 where it was a real plague.
I really hope that it does not become more prelevant or this can really hurt person-to-person trading.
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Tion Barton
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Posted - 2003.11.10 18:51:00 -
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You can avoid an item switch scan by accepting first without putting any money in, checking the stats, then accepting again after putting in the money.
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Soten'Ket
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Posted - 2003.11.10 22:02:00 -
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Would you like some cheese with that whine?
OOOOooooohhh yeah! t'was me!, and I would've gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you pesky kids! Hey guys, I heard of the scam, sounded like a half-decent get rich quick scheme and I reckoned I'd give it a shot. You'll be happy 2 know i didn't pull it off, so don't cry about it. |
Mandros Aslay
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Posted - 2003.11.11 13:44:00 -
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Thought it was Pesky Rabbit ?
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Riana Tabost
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Posted - 2003.11.11 14:25:00 -
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Amin: Thanks for the heads up. __________________________________________________________________________ May I recommend a Cybernetic Subprocessor?.. That's an intelligence implant, sweetheart.
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Dell
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Posted - 2003.11.11 14:32:00 -
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Soten'Ket = Scum
You clearly cross-dress! as the evidence below proves!
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Unicode
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Posted - 2003.11.11 18:11:00 -
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oH how cute!
And yes sot u are scum
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.12 09:57:00 -
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Just keeping this on the first page
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Scotari
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Posted - 2003.11.15 10:51:00 -
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Well, just prove its not just a noobs scam, one of our corps just got done for 55m and its his 2nd battleship.
You dont need to be stupid, just tired or in a rush and these ****s will clean u out
Nice one guys - thats another player thats said 'sod it' after the GMs wouldnt help
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Estevan
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Posted - 2003.11.15 20:23:00 -
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Trade is trade, scammers are everywhere... so long as it is not a bug in the game that can be blamed on programming then it is not supposed to be redeemed by the GM¦s. I know it can be sad to have something like this happen to you but if you cant take it then you anyway wont make it in this business in the long run and probably will just quit sooner or later. Just be paranoid and play safe and then you will come out with your isk ok.
ps. Am very happy that this thread comes up and hope most people will read it for there are some that just dont know that there is a rat in every corner gnawing away at your wallet and waiting till your money falls out...
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Booky
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Posted - 2003.11.16 02:05:00 -
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Your right, Trade is Trade and scammers are everywhere.
However, I RL if some jackars scams me of lets say 500 dollars jsut because of my ignorance to what imbuying, im gonna kick his ars when I find out I was scammed, and in a game its hard to locate people sometimes. Spelling corrections welcome, but don't expect me to edit my post. |
Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.16 02:31:00 -
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Quote: Trade is trade, scammers are everywhere... so long as it is not a bug in the game that can be blamed on programming then it is not supposed to be redeemed by the GM¦s.
True. That's what Concord are for; chasing after criminals and dealing with them. So how do you propose to program a Concord response to fraud?
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