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Kharakan Amarr GREY COUNCIL Breidablik	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:07:00 - [1] Edited by: Kharakan on 11/11/2006 18:07:39 Oh dear. EDIT: But at the same time, Originally by: Joshua Foiritain (to Dark Shikari) HAHAHA I KNOW YOUR ACCOUUNT NAME TIME TO DIE this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
Araxmas Caldari Imperial Space Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:07:00 - [2] Edited by: Araxmas on 11/11/2006 18:07:32 yippie Titans are huge ****s --------
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:07:00 - [3] Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 11/11/2006 18:07:36 They're thinking about releasing them for up to 0.4 . On related news, I predict prices for the bastards will rise in the near future . "Titans were never meant to be cost-effective, they're a huge ****" - Oveur
Malvan Minmatar Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:09:00 - [4] Holy **** Sakura, you posted this within Seconds of him saying that! 'A flag that has no nation makes an enemy of the world' - The Golden Apple.
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:10:00 - [5] Originally by: Malvan Holy **** Sakura, you posted this within Seconds of him saying that! Expect me to be doing this throughout the panel . "Titans were never meant to be cost-effective, they're a huge ****" - Oveur
Heimmahg	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:10:00 - [6] **** your quick =x ahahahah
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:10:00 - [7] OMG I just let out a little sex wee when he said that!!!!
solidshot Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:10:00 - [8] Didnt he say large bubbles are being released as well?
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:11:00 - [9] Mind you would be happy with logging off not getting you out of bubbles.
Happydayz FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:12:00 - [10] unnerfing dictors = getting dictors into lowsec space and/or preventing dictor bubble log-outs?
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:13:00 - [11] Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 11/11/2006 18:14:26 Originally by: solidshot Didnt he say large bubbles are being released as well? Confirmed Originally by: Happydayz unnerfing dictors = getting dictors into lowsec space and/or preventing dictor bubble log-outs? Allowing them to drop spheres in up to 0.4, didn't mention anything about logouts other than they're going to change the mechanic "when" and not "if". "Titans were never meant to be cost-effective, they're a huge ****" - Oveur
Kharakan Amarr GREY COUNCIL Breidablik	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:13:00 - [12] Edited by: Kharakan on 11/11/2006 18:12:53 See my thread =] (that was for hans) Originally by: Joshua Foiritain (to Dark Shikari) HAHAHA I KNOW YOUR ACCOUUNT NAME TIME TO DIE this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
Unfamed II FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:15:00 - [13] Originally by: Sakura Nihil Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 11/11/2006 18:14:26 Originally by: solidshot Didnt he say large bubbles are being released as well? Confirmed Originally by: Happydayz unnerfing dictors = getting dictors into lowsec space and/or preventing dictor bubble log-outs? Allowing them to drop spheres in up to 0.4, didn't mention anything about logouts other than they're going to change the mechanic "when" and not "if". Didn't he also say something about them being available in the market too? Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:16:00 - [14] Originally by: Unfamed II Originally by: Sakura Nihil Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 11/11/2006 18:14:26 Originally by: solidshot Didnt he say large bubbles are being released as well? Confirmed Originally by: Happydayz unnerfing dictors = getting dictors into lowsec space and/or preventing dictor bubble log-outs? Allowing them to drop spheres in up to 0.4, didn't mention anything about logouts other than they're going to change the mechanic "when" and not "if". Didn't he also say something about them being available in the market too? In the form of BPOs? Not quite sure tbh, I personally wouldn't think so. "Titans were never meant to be cost-effective, they're a huge ****" - Oveur
Felysta Sandorn Caldari Murder of Crows E N I G M A	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:22:00 - [15] But now there's no safety for PODs at all! Before I could fly about in lowsec and always get my pod out... When a dictor is involved, this means no pod freedom, and lots more logging out! Only way to save your pod from a dictor sphere? Log out! This will end badly :( _________________________________________________________ http://www.murkeye.com/images/sigs/felysta2.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:24:00 - [16] Originally by: Felysta Sandorn But now there's no safety for PODs at all! Before I could fly about in lowsec and always get my pod out... When a dictor is involved, this means no pod freedom, and lots more logging out! Only way to save your pod from a dictor sphere? Log out! This will end badly :( shrugs, its worth testing at the very least, keep in mind though it might be an act of agression which would draw respones from the sentries. "Titans were never meant to be cost-effective, they're a huge ****" - Oveur
Adoro adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:24:00 - [17] Still thinking ;) Big chance it takes a while before being released. But really happy now :) -------- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Easy Target Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:31:00 - [18] depends what is classed as the agression.. if launching the sphere is classed as the agression then it is gonna end in a lot of exploded dictors.. If it isnt agression till it effects someone it wont be so bad, as the dictor can MWD out of range and warp off so it isnt nuked... :) Easy Target ----------------------------------------------- No i'm not good... but i have never claimed to be --------------------
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:33:00 - [19] This would have disastrous consequences on low-sec population: dropping a bubble isn't an act of agression, so a pirate alt could be able to prevent a ship from warping out without taking fire. Then there's the problem of WCS being useless against a bubble. It's fine for 0.0, but in a 0.4? What about industrials? T2 industrials? Their native warp strengh bonus would become so much garbage. Pirates can already tank sentries pretty easily, and it will be much easier post-kali. And WCS, thanks CCP, have been nerfed on all but non-combat ship. So what the point of bubbles in 0.4, aside for depopulating low-sec space? ------------------------------------------ Nuhwall: Why are some Amarr ships warping backward? Shadowsword: whatever happen, if they need to flee they can honestly say the faced the enemy.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:40:00 - [20] Originally by: Shadowsword So what the point of bubbles in 0.4, aside for depopulating low-sec space? Warp to 0km? /me waits for high sec bubbles. --------- Boryokudan Recruitment. Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:43:00 - [21] Originally by: Shadowsword So what the point of bubbles in 0.4, aside for depopulating low-sec space? Its a way to balance risk vs. reward of lowsec with a 0km warp to function - it allows us all to have instas, but prevents screwing over PvPers that want to fight at a gate. It keeps the gate as a viable combat location. "Titans were never meant to be cost-effective, they're a huge ****" - Oveur
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:45:00 - [22] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 11/11/2006 18:45:17 Originally by: Sakura Nihil Originally by: Shadowsword So what the point of bubbles in 0.4, aside for depopulating low-sec space? Its a way to balance risk vs. reward of lowsec with a 0km warp to function - it allows us all to have instas, but prevents screwing over PvPers that want to fight at a gate. It keeps the gate as a viable combat location. But not for high sec empire wars. --------- Boryokudan Recruitment. Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:48:00 - [23] Low sec is REALLY going to be dangerous with this change.... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 11/11/2006 18:45:17 Originally by: Sakura Nihil Originally by: Shadowsword So what the point of bubbles in 0.4, aside for depopulating low-sec space? Its a way to balance risk vs. reward of lowsec with a 0km warp to function - it allows us all to have instas, but prevents screwing over PvPers that want to fight at a gate. It keeps the gate as a viable combat location. But not for high sec empire wars. I'm not sure for empire wars - imo, only if they're configurable so it only snags war targets for example. "Titans were never meant to be cost-effective, they're a huge ****" - Oveur
Serendipity007 X.T.R Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:49:00 - [25] Lets not forget he said "considering it". This is far from written in stone. However, it should offset the "Warp to 0km" option nicely, as it will give pirates and other people options of catching other people. Not to mention fix the need of having 10,000+ G2G bookmarks, one of the largest sources of lag and server load in EvE. ___________________________________________________ "I'm an engineer, not a miracle worker!" - Scotty, Star Trek: The Original Series
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:58:00 - [26] Have Warp to 7.5km and not Warp to 0km and we will not need low/high sec dictors. --------- Boryokudan Recruitment. Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:58:00 - [27] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 11/11/2006 18:58:26 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Have Warp to 7.5km and not Warp to 0km and we will not need low/high sec dictors. Have Warp to 0 km and you will, and it makes the game better because you need to work together with other people. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Amarria Lightwielder N.A.G.A Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:59:00 - [28] I want dictor bpo's :p Teh NAGA ShopÖ
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.11 19:00:00 - [29] Originally by: Zebler points I will agree with you that it needs to be counted as agression - let's roll with that train of thought though... You have a dictor and a sniper out past sentry range - you have a target come through, dictor drops bubble, gets pwned by the sentries, but whatever comes out of that gate is screwed thanks to the bubble unless it can get out of range. Dictor and target die, sniper lives. Scenario 2, you have a gank ship and a dictor on top of the gate, same target comes through. Ganker can shoot the gate or billboard to draw aggression on them, and give the dictor time to drop a bubble and run for their life - they won't be able to reliably come back until the flag wears off, else they might catch a sentry gun switching targets and be shredded. Victim still dies, dictor might die, gank ship remains intact. shrugs, I think we could make it work. It would eliminate the thought of a sniper just using an alt to drop bubbles, but like suicide ganking, it would give you a guaranteed kill in exchange for a ship loss. Close-range ganking would start to be the main way of gate combat in lowsec, but would also be a lot riskier due to the chance you'd be stupid and get stuck in your own bubble, or hit by another PvP force and bubbled yourself. Worth a shot on SISI. "Titans were never meant to be cost-effective, they're a huge ****" - Oveur
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated	Posted - 2006.11.11 19:01:00 - [30] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Have Warp to 7.5km and not Warp to 0km and we will not need low/high sec dictors. Have Warp to 0 km and you will, and it makes the game better because you need to work together with other people. Quote: If anything, low sec will be much more dangerous with this change than it ever was before. You have just contradicted yourself. Warp to 0km is bad for EvE. --------- Boryokudan Recruitment. Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!

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