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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 06:44:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Rorix Whitecloud
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: El Yatta
murder one, you are without doubt the biggest meaningless *****er about Kali content that haunts these already infested boards. Everything isnt to your liking, and you campaign incessantly for changes that only benefit you, most of which are too late to even think of being put into Kali.
Im sure some poor art person is frowning tonight (or would be if they weren't at Fanfest drinking!) and feeling sad that you are vocalising such a rude complaint about their hard work. Personally I think the hype looks pretty good, but remain to be convinced whethers its a better blaster boat than the mega.
There is plenty to my liking. THE ENTIRE LOWER HALF OF MY POST IS PRAISING THE OTHER SHIP DESIGNS. And they're all done by the same guy. 1 crap design out of 8 is about an 87% success rate. Not too shabby.
*SNIP*
... what? lets see what you posted...
Originally by: murder one
I can't possibly put into words how disappointed I am. I was praying to the concept art gods that some how, some way, the design would be changed to the point that it didn't look like a friggin ass pirate's sex toy. But alas, it looks exactly like the concept art, ring and all.
The Hype is hands down the single worst looking ship of all 8 new craft. Guns on its ASS?!?! Why? WHY? Why does it have a pancake in the middle with little dinner plates for engines? The nose looks cool, except for the little side thrusters or w/e those are. The rest of it looks ridiculous. No sense of proportion, no balance.
It looks ungainly and cumbersom. Imagine how that big stick is going to look when it bounces off it's target at 1km/sec and flips end over end as it tries to enter warp. The four engines make for a nice little symmetric elliptical ring right in the middle. Very stale/stagnant looking design. Pure symmetry like that makes it look dead. The ship looks more like a freighter than a battleship. The whole concept just turns my stomach.
Not saying I don't like symmetry either. I like the bilateral symmetry of the other designs. They're great. The Abaddon is probably one of the best looking ships in all of Eve. Hurrcain is increadable, the Rokh is sexy. The Myrmidon looks sleek and purposeful. Hell, I can even get used to the sailboat that is the Maelstrom. But the Hyperion is just garbage.
Lets see... praise... 2nd half of the post... hmm...
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Not saying I don't like symmetry either. I like the bilateral symmetry of the other designs. They're great. The Abaddon is probably one of the best looking ships in all of Eve. Hurrcain is increadable, the Rokh is sexy. The Myrmidon looks sleek and purposeful. Hell, I can even get used to the sailboat that is the Maelstrom. But the Hyperion is just garbage.
Right.
However, i must say, while normally your posts are a tad whiny, you do back up your points, so i give your props for that. :)
I'd like some advice: how do I express my extreme displeasure with something without coming across as 'whiny'?
Because I said so...
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Christina Vallentine
Caldari
Tau Ceti Global Production
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.12 06:58:00 -
[32]
Originally by: murder one
...Why? WHY? Why does it have a pancake in the middle with little dinner plates for engines?...
I don't agree really but I thought your comment about the dinner plate was amazing and needed quoted for fun LOL, I can't stop laughing at that LOL.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.12 07:00:00 -
[33]
Originally by: murder one
I'd like some advice: how do I express my extreme displeasure with something without coming across as 'whiny'?
A good start would be not expressing your extreme displeasure with everything at the same time in multiple threads across multiple boards.
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 07:07:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Risien Drogonne
Originally by: murder one
I'd like some advice: how do I express my extreme displeasure with something without coming across as 'whiny'?
A good start would be not expressing your extreme displeasure with everything at the same time in multiple threads across multiple boards.
But each particular facet of the game that is broken etc. needs it's own thread so that everyone can be more precisely focused on the problem at hand. You don't see me putting pirating issues in the ships forum do you? Frankly I stay out of the General forum as much as possible.
Because I said so...
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Ekscalybur
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Posted - 2006.11.12 07:48:00 -
[35]
Other than the pancake/dinner plates, I rather like the ship. When I think of ships that size, I can't get past the thought of really big engines providing huge amounts of power, or banks of smaller ones like on the rear of the Mega.
The thrust coming out at a right angle to the supposed placement of the engines is also another problem I have. Again, the styling of the ship I'm a big fan of, just want to make that perfectly clear. But the thing in the middle just makes me think its much smaller than it is. The engines even look delicate, they just do not give me the impression of massive power, an impression I think a battleship should give. It looks more like a science/research vessel rather than something designed to break faces.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.12 07:49:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 12/11/2006 07:52:04
Things may seem broken from your point of view murder one but we've seen how correct that view is in other threads.. 
Bold text is his view.. the stuff after is mine..
Originally by: murder one
For example: Warp to 0km. What does this one small change do?
Decreases the relative 'size' of the eve universe.
Thats a problem? If the attacker can get places faster then so can the defender.. And if it makes more people want to leave high sec and it will as everyone will have travel instas now then thats a Win for All.. More targets for pirates and more potential recuits for alliances as you cant recruit them if they stay in empire..
Mitigates traders and haulers as a viable occupation.
WTF? How did you come to that conclusion? Cutting out that 1 to 3 min trudge to the gate for the next jump can only make more people want to do it..
Cheapens the concept and value of high speed blockade runners.
Err wha? They were already using instas anyways and the blocade runners strength lies in its ability to mount tons of nanos and wcs to warp quickly and get away on the jump in even if a few instalockers tag it.. Which is on the side of the gate that isnt effected by any warp in distance.. Any blockade runner pilot trying to run a camped gate at 15km is going to get pwnd well before they get even close to the gate to jump..
Hinders PVP by making it easier for *any* target to escape combat.
If Warp to 0km to any object but gates makes it in I'll gladly join you in flaming CCP all the way to Wow.. But stop and think.. No stickys no dev responces only the removal of using BM's to let more players on SISI by reducing the load and adding the warp to 0km to all objects to let players easily get place to place for testing purposes and getting some feedback for the inhouse debate.... So I'm going to assume that *if* any sort of warp to 0km is used it will only be GTG.. Which changes nothing about the game only lets them reduce lag and database load..
Allows pirates to roam around high-sec with impunity. You're never going to catch a shuttle/pod with warp to 0.
And your catching them with any high percentage now? Maybe one that went afk but if they are actualy at the KB they are as good as gone..
KALI.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |
murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 07:58:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 12/11/2006 07:52:04
Things may seem broken from your point of view murder one but we've seen how correct that view is in other threads..
Bold text is his view.. the stuff after is mine..
Originally by: murder one
For example: Warp to 0km. What does this one small change do?
Decreases the relative 'size' of the eve universe.
Thats a problem? If the attacker can get places faster then so can the defender.. And if it makes more people want to leave high sec and it will as everyone will have travel instas now then thats a Win for All.. More targets for pirates and more potential recuits for alliances as you cant recruit them if they stay in empire..
Mitigates traders and haulers as a viable occupation.
WTF? How did you come to that conclusion? Cutting out that 1 to 3 min trudge to the gate for the next jump can only make more people want to do it..
Cheapens the concept and value of high speed blockade runners.
Err wha? They were already using instas anyways and the blocade runners strength lies in its ability to mount tons of nanos and wcs to warp quickly and get away on the jump in even if a few instalockers tag it.. Which is on the side of the gate that isnt effected by any warp in distance.. Any blockade runner pilot trying to run a camped gate at 15km is going to get pwnd well before they get even close to the gate to jump..
Hinders PVP by making it easier for *any* target to escape combat.
If Warp to 0km to any object but gates makes it in I'll gladly join you in flaming CCP all the way to Wow.. But stop and think.. No stickys no dev responces only the removal of using BM's to let more players on SISI by reducing the load and adding the warp to 0km to all objects to let players easily get place to place for testing purposes and getting some feedback for the inhouse debate.... So I'm going to assume that *if* any sort of warp to 0km is used it will only be GTG.. Which changes nothing about the game only lets them reduce lag and database load..
Allows pirates to roam around high-sec with impunity. You're never going to catch a shuttle/pod with warp to 0.
And your catching them with any high percentage now? Maybe one that went afk but if they are actualy at the KB they are as good as gone..
You're taking it out of context. Imagine if there were no more gate to gate instas. Then fast haulers would be more important, pirates wouldn't be able to insta around empire like they do now, targets *wouldn't* be able to escape so easily by jumping to a gate and leaving, traders and freighter pilots would actually make MORE money because of the increase in time involved, they'd be able to be more efficient than the other guys by moving more stuff per unit of time. Making Eve feel smaller is just bad all the way around. Reduces the epic feeling that it's an actual galaxy.
Because I said so...
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Eveanne
Gallente
Sperm Trumpet Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:10:00 -
[38]
Love it
It looks great
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HapeMask
Crisis Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:14:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Eveanne
Love it
It looks great
QFT, I think it looks brilliant :D Beauty is in the eye of the beholder remember? If you don't like how it looks that badly then just don't fly it and don't look at it.
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Skrypt
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:17:00 -
[40]
Pictures please.
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:18:00 -
[41]
Originally by: HapeMask
Originally by: Eveanne
Love it
It looks great
QFT, I think it looks brilliant :D Beauty is in the eye of the beholder remember? If you don't like how it looks that badly then just don't fly it and don't look at it.
Yep. Sadly this is the case. Blaster ships were my favorite. Now that the new one is a steaming pile of crap I'll have to just suck it up and fly Caldari like everyone else.
Because I said so...
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:21:00 -
[42]
Well heres the concept art at least..
http://www.asgeirjon.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=6
Not my favorite but eh its all a matter of taste as far as looks go..
Originally by: murder one
You're taking it out of context. Imagine if there were no more gate to gate instas. Then fast haulers would be more important, pirates wouldn't be able to insta around empire like they do now, targets *wouldn't* be able to escape so easily by jumping to a gate and leaving, traders and freighter pilots would actually make MORE money because of the increase in time involved, they'd be able to be more efficient than the other guys by moving more stuff per unit of time. Making Eve feel smaller is just bad all the way around. Reduces the epic feeling that it's an actual galaxy.
Your right.. This is a thread about your dislike of the Hyperion.. Answered above..
As far as that other stuff LOL! Dude you have some of the most mind bending logic ever.. But hey.. If it makes sense to you thats all that really matters..
KALI.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |
Vazion
TOHA Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:44:00 -
[43]
Screenshot or it didn't happen.
PS: No one gives a flying F' about who, what or how you pwn'd someone in your frigate/cruiser/weinermobile.
Seriously.
Get over yourself.
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NoNameNewbie
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:58:00 -
[44]
stfu with flaming and post ******* picture ffs
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Cletus Graeme
Caldari
Bladerunners
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:06:00 -
[45]
This thread has no point to it. CCP arent gonna change a ship design cos one guy, or even a whole thread, says it looks sucky.
Anyway, plenty of ships look sucky but it shouldn't stop you flying them.
If you admit beauty is a matter of personal taste then you obviously realise it's impossible to please everyone. One person's swan is another person's ugly duck. So just fly what u want to - and be happy with that.
The time and place to discuss ship designs was when the concept art first came out. It's too late now.
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Gabriel Karade
Office linebackers
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:20:00 -
[46]
Just wanted to say, the Hyperion looks awesome.
Sure, that's the updated graphics which we won't see for a while, but still - brutal looking.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:26:00 -
[47]
Originally by: murder one
Yep. Sadly this is the case. Blaster ships were my favorite. Now that the new one is a steaming pile of crap I'll have to just suck it up and fly Caldari like everyone else.
What, something wrong with the Brutix too?
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
Gilead's Bullet
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:26:00 -
[48]
Where's Dust Angel when you need him? Originally by: Dust Angel
Pics or STFU
--------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans
Nik = win. Period.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:36:00 -
[49]
ill just stick with my vindicator k thanks
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:41:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Risien Drogonne
Originally by: murder one
Yep. Sadly this is the case. Blaster ships were my favorite. Now that the new one is a steaming pile of crap I'll have to just suck it up and fly Caldari like everyone else.
What, something wrong with the Brutix too?
Just go fly all the blaster ships on test in duels. I really can't be bothered explaining it all to you. Suffice to say that you'll lose. The whole concept of blaster ships and how they work have been rendered obsolete by the changes in Kali.
Because I said so...
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:45:00 -
[51]
Originally by: murder one
Just go fly all the blaster ships on test in duels. I really can't be bothered explaining it all to you. Suffice to say that you'll lose. The whole concept of blaster ships and how they work have been rendered obsolete by the changes in Kali.
Hasn't been my experience.
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:50:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Risien Drogonne
Originally by: murder one
Just go fly all the blaster ships on test in duels. I really can't be bothered explaining it all to you. Suffice to say that you'll lose. The whole concept of blaster ships and how they work have been rendered obsolete by the changes in Kali.
Hasn't been my experience.
lol? I've killed every blaster ship I've fought on test. You go hop in a Brutix and I'll fight you in a Myrmidon, we'll see who wins. Go get in a Rax and I'll get in a vexor or something and we'll see who drops first. Or a Rokh and a Hyperion or Mega etc.
I've been on test ever since it was available, testing all the new stuff. I've SEEN rooks with an ECM strength of 18+. It's ridiculous. I've damped targets down to under 4800m lock range from 72km lock range. Without using a Celestis to do it! (or an arazu/lachesis for that matter). I've seen passive shield tanks with something like 250hp/sec regen. It's just silly.
Blaster ships are on the losing end in Kali, and so are laser ships. You can't do enough DPS fast enough to kill a target before you're out of cap, and then you die. Simple.
Because I said so...
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Isyel
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.12 10:22:00 -
[53]
I love how the Hyperion looks.  Really cool.
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Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 10:44:00 -
[54]
Well one can certainly not argue about beauty when we all precieve it in different ways.
Anyway, that Hyperion reminds me of the flagships from "Imperium Galactica I". I really liked those designs... and I quite like the hyperion design.
When it comes to the real thing that matter though, which is combat efficiency and balance, its very unimpressive, outdmged by a mega?! WTF CCP? I thought this thing was supposed to be the ultimate blasterboat!
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Marcus Thrawn
Caldari
Fatalix Inc.
Schism.
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Posted - 2006.11.12 15:11:00 -
[55]
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Marcus Thrawn
Didn't you loose a Vindicator to a Megathron? Yeah, that sounds about right.
I lost my Vindi to one ECM module, not the Megathron lol.
Last time I checked, ECM modules didn't do any damage. So you must be pretty horrible if you lost to a random ECM module floating in space.
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.12 15:47:00 -
[56]
I think it looks cool. Too bad the ship is crap, but it does look good.
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Spiderweb
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.12 16:47:00 -
[57]
Originally by: murder one
I can't possibly put into words how disappointed I am. I was praying to the concept art gods that some how, some way, the design would be changed to the point that it didn't look like a friggin ass pirate's sex toy. But alas, it looks exactly like the concept art, ring and all.
The Hype is hands down the single worst looking ship of all 8 new craft. Guns on its ASS?!?! Why? WHY? Why does it have a pancake in the middle with little dinner plates for engines? The nose looks cool, except for the little side thrusters or w/e those are. The rest of it looks ridiculous. No sense of proportion, no balance.
It looks ungainly and cumbersom. Imagine how that big stick is going to look when it bounces off it's target at 1km/sec and flips end over end as it tries to enter warp. The four engines make for a nice little symmetric elliptical ring right in the middle. Very stale/stagnant looking design. Pure symmetry like that makes it look dead. The ship looks more like a freighter than a battleship. The whole concept just turns my stomach.
Not saying I don't like symmetry either. I like the bilateral symmetry of the other designs. They're great. The Abaddon is probably one of the best looking ships in all of Eve. Hurrcain is increadable, the Rokh is sexy. The Myrmidon looks sleek and purposeful. Hell, I can even get used to the sailboat that is the Maelstrom. But the Hyperion is just garbage.
I bet everyone and their neighbour is absolutely BORED with your senseless whining. Being a social misfit kid is one thing, advertising it on the internet is another .
The hyperion looks awesome, its a different style of a model. Plus from what I heard from people who attended the fanfest it fights pretty frackin good.
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Miklas Laces
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:09:00 -
[58]
Originally by: murder one
I can't possibly put into words how disappointed I am.
haven't seen it yet but, judging from all your other threads, it must look awesome |
Spigoe
Infinity Shipyard Masters
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:13:00 -
[59]
The design is good, it's supposed to be a fast ship, therefore the large engines. And about the shape, in space there is no friction, or actually there is, but it's so tiny that it counts as 0. |
Royaldo
KVA Noble Inc.
THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:19:00 -
[60]
will some anal post some pics ffs!!!
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