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Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:28:00 - [91] "The Mercenary Coalition are shock troops, we are not an army." So... What this means is that we are great at getting a bunch of tangible objectives done in a short period of time with a high success rate. Or we can be deployed to distract a party for a while, maybe allowing other things to happen. Or maybe someone wants a certain party annoyed in empire for a while, disrupting their industrial stuff. We don't have the numbers to slug it out with a big alliance. We like to take on contracts that will satisfy the client. If you don't come up with a good plan, involving probably more alliances / players to attack BoB, successrate will be very low and we will probably protect you against yourself and say "Nope, not gonna happen". :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Julien Derida Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:29:00 - [92] Originally by: maGz Post whatever excuses you want - bottom line is you don't want to risk you assets. Fair enough, I don't think anyone blaim you. However stop digging the hole, you're already in, deeper. I don't expect you to admit to anything, just try to look objectively on things and you might realise how stupid you guys look when you keep shouting the same bad excuses. What excuses? We're essentially saying the same thing as you. If someone comes to us with a credible plan to attack BoB that leaves us with our assets intact, we're all ears. If they come to us asking us to sacrifice our assets for the sake of a few bil or even a few tens of bil, we'll tell them to bugger off. We're not idiots. Neither are our comments about alts an excuse. Do you realise how many contract offers we get? Far too many for us to ever take on, or even explore fully. Our contract negiators have limited patience and limited time. We have to adopt some rules to sort the wheat from the chaff. Our experience has been that most alts end up being timewasters, and therefore we dont deal with them. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:35:00 - [93] Originally by: KIAEddZ consisted of 1 engagement and a mass exodus of KIA pilots that had nothing to do with the contract, and everything to do with Wow Eddz matey It was 2 engagements and tbh, not everyone went to WoW... -- Nobody stays behind
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:37:00 - [94] Well on top of the alt not talking to Seleene, I'd also like to point out that we've declined offers to attack ASCN. Now if the tin-foil-hat, I-don't-have-a-clue crowd could go back to thier nests for a little untill you can find something else to get worked up over.
Griefer Troll Troll Industries	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:40:00 - [95] I'll take the contract this unlimited wallet deal sounds great. For this kind of money I can commit unlimited numbers of Battle-fitted impairors to the complete destruction of BoB. I can also offer a frighteneing array of doomsday smacktalking, which will soon crush the morale of these pretenders. For a mere 1BN a week, I will not rest until they are destroyed.
Sunshang Amarr Corp Robs Other Corp	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:41:00 - [96] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Sunshang Last week I attempted to hire MC to attack BOB. You didn't talk to me. BoB contract + No talking to Seleene = Bull****. I'm sorry but if you are going to blatently lie just to save face then thats a disgrace. You told me specifically NO and your exact following words were 'that contract is not in our best interests, goodbye.'. If you want to be two-faced go ahead, but at least have the decency to tell the truth to people and not spin things. You know EXACTLY how much i was willing to spend over six months.
Kaiu Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:41:00 - [97] Originally by: Karmic Oh really. Here is the checklist for talking to the MC about any contract- - goto www.mercenarycoalition.com and fill in the contract contact form - use your main we don't deal with alts - have a plan or an idea of a plan don't come to us expecting miracles, miracles cost more than a normal contract - please remember we have many contracts being offered to us so if we say we are busy its the truth - we will take a contract on BoB but please remember all the above and have a very large wallet, and expect to pay alot upfront - anything else Seleene feels is pertinant - oh really? So explain why my ex-corp mate has attempted to contact MC through ALL of the above means about a contract and has not even had a polite evemail to say NO ? Bunch of muppets ____________________ MOGarmy
Amthrianius Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:42:00 - [98] Aneu has no credibility in Planetarion anyway Sivona espeiclaly with teh MDK and Killmark bot army :p Originally by: Admiral Goberius Basically we need to understand why they manage to cream our dreads like they were shuttles and theirs manage to tank a total of 150 ascn ships + 112 fighters
Julien Derida Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:45:00 - [99] So, would the 'true mercenaries' please stand up? It can't be us, because we have a business relationship with BoB. It can't be KIA, because they have a relationship with the Goons. OO? I know that as CoC they used to have a relationship with Bladerunners and PA. I'm sure they still have people they wouldn't attack. Would Mitch or anyone like to comment? The point I'm trying to make is that the idea of 'true mercenaries' is a silly one. The current state of the game requires any mercenary who wants to compete toe to toe with alliances to own a large fleet of capitals. Owning and maintaining a large fleet of capitals requires either claiming your own bit of 0.0, or building a relationship with someone who does - both of which seem to disqualify an entity from being 'true mercenaries' in the eyes of the public. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:46:00 - [100] Originally by: Sunshang Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Sunshang Last week I attempted to hire MC to attack BOB. You didn't talk to me. BoB contract + No talking to Seleene = Bull****. I'm sorry but if you are going to blatently lie just to save face then thats a disgrace. You told me specifically NO and your exact following words were 'that contract is not in our best interests, goodbye.'. If you want to be two-faced go ahead, but at least have the decency to tell the truth to people and not spin things. You know EXACTLY how much i was willing to spend over six months. Chat log? - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Sunshang Amarr Corp Robs Other Corp	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:49:00 - [101] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Sunshang Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Sunshang Last week I attempted to hire MC to attack BOB. You didn't talk to me. BoB contract + No talking to Seleene = Bull****. I'm sorry but if you are going to blatently lie just to save face then thats a disgrace. You told me specifically NO and your exact following words were 'that contract is not in our best interests, goodbye.'. If you want to be two-faced go ahead, but at least have the decency to tell the truth to people and not spin things. You know EXACTLY how much i was willing to spend over six months. Chat log? As soon as I get home from work im posting it dont worry, I thought you had more integrity than this seleene, I really really did.
Necronomicon Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:49:00 - [102] Edited by: Necronomicon on 13/11/2006 15:51:25 Ok, an order just arrived for a Mr I.M Alt? 2 buckets of trolls, 1 of flames. Who is gonna sign for them? Edit SUNSHANG - Member of "Alty McAlt Corp for less than a day" Alty McAlt Corp - Members 2 I guess these are your Sunshang? Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
ZelRox Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:52:00 - [103] Originally by: Righteous Fury Hire us to shoot BoB, please please please I thought you were on a break :P ---------------------- BiH 4tw
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:52:00 - [104] Don't bother. Aneu's not above forging chat logs. His objective is just to troll. Seems the definition of "mercenary" here is someone that will take contracts like "kill BoB, and donate your spleen".
Bizarre TAOSP	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:54:00 - [105] Originally by: Rebellion Don't bother. Aneu's not above forging chat logs. His objective is just to troll. Seems the definition of "mercenary" here is someone that will take contracts like "kill BoB, and donate your spleen". No he's not forging chatlogs! Once he gets home he will tell us that his harddrive is destroyed and that he can no longer get the chatlogs of the conversation! Kinda like he did with the m0o screenshots. --------------------
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:56:00 - [106] Originally by: ZelRox Originally by: Righteous Fury Hire us to shoot BoB, please please please I thought you were on a break :P I would come back for the contract
Kaiu Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:02:00 - [107] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Sunshang Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Sunshang Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Sunshang Last week I attempted to hire MC to attack BOB. You didn't talk to me. BoB contract + No talking to Seleene = Bull****. I'm sorry but if you are going to blatently lie just to save face then thats a disgrace. You told me specifically NO and your exact following words were 'that contract is not in our best interests, goodbye.'. If you want to be two-faced go ahead, but at least have the decency to tell the truth to people and not spin things. You know EXACTLY how much i was willing to spend over six months. Chat log? As soon as I get home from work im posting it dont worry, I thought you had more integrity than this seleene, I really really did. So gonna break the rules twice then posting with an alt and posting chat logs I do hope the mods are gonna be warning your main charc? Will be interesting to see the logs though Your Boss just ASKED for the chat logs... Keep up... rofl ____________________ MOGarmy
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:02:00 - [108] Originally by: Sunshang Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Sunshang Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Sunshang Last week I attempted to hire MC to attack BOB. You didn't talk to me. BoB contract + No talking to Seleene = Bull****. I'm sorry but if you are going to blatently lie just to save face then thats a disgrace. You told me specifically NO and your exact following words were 'that contract is not in our best interests, goodbye.'. If you want to be two-faced go ahead, but at least have the decency to tell the truth to people and not spin things. You know EXACTLY how much i was willing to spend over six months. Chat log? As soon as I get home from work im posting it dont worry, I thought you had more integrity than this seleene, I really really did. So gonna break the rules twice then posting with an alt and posting chat logs I do hope the mods are gonna be warning your main charc? Will be interesting to see the logs though
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:05:00 - [109] Originally by: Sunshang As soon as I get home from work im posting it dont worry, I thought you had more integrity than this seleene, I really really did. Bring it. Show me where I had a detailed conversation with a main character who had "unlimited" funds and a plan to attack and destroy BoB forever that doesn't sound like something a four year old girl came up with... and then turned it down. I have no idea what you are talking about, but 'that contract is not in our best interests, goodbye.' sounds like a polite way of saying, "I don't talk to lunatics with no concept of what is possible or even intelligent." So, post your chat log. I'll also be curious to see your main character's name, the dates this conversation took place and the dozens of issues discussed that such a contract would entail. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:08:00 - [110] Edited by: Orree on 13/11/2006 16:15:56 Originally by: EvilNate Hire outbreak. What he said (if they are even taking contracts). These guys (Outbreak) are pretty darned good, tbh.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:12:00 - [111] Kaiu, Sel's exact words were "chat logs?" where does that say break the rules of the forum and post them here please? Just because someone asks you to do something against the rules doesn't mean you have to do it.
Karash Amerius Amarr O.E.C	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:19:00 - [112] I believe that MC are true mercs...but it is true that a contract vs BoB would mean they would eventually have to pack up and move north (I assume anyhow). The thing people have to realize that when you operate at the level MC does, you require capital yards, POS services in 0.0 space and so forth. You cannot do that in Empire space effectively. They choose where to live and probably have agreements to make sure that continues in an un-interrupted fashion. This doesn't make them less mercenary...but they just have to have some home space. And since all the 0.0 space is taken these days, what are they to do? A side note: Personally, I would like to see Stain become a Mercenary haven for all corporations and alliances with true mercenary corporation charters. Sure, brigands and bandits would be in that crowd probably, but its something of a goal of mine...even if its probably un-attainable. Merc Blog
JINX HSC Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:19:00 - [113] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Sunshang As soon as I get home from work im posting it dont worry, I thought you had more integrity than this seleene, I really really did. Bring it. Show me where I had a detailed conversation with a main character who had "unlimited" funds and a plan to attack and destroy BoB forever that doesn't sound like something a four year old girl came up with... and then turned it down. I have no idea what you are talking about, but 'that contract is not in our best interests, goodbye.' sounds like a polite way of saying, "I don't talk to lunatics with no concept of what is possible or even intelligent." So, post your chat log. I'll also be curious to see your main character's name, the dates this conversation took place and the dozens of issues discussed that such a contract would entail. LOL isnt this a good start of a new RIZ movie ??....dont you think Sel??? "THE CHAT" by Riz Featuring Sel and the unknown e-bayer Based on a "true" chat log.... /the mask - KLADDKAKA - Trig read the rulez m8!!!
Crovan Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:23:00 - [114] Originally by: Sunshang Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Sunshang Last week I attempted to hire MC to attack BOB. You didn't talk to me. BoB contract + No talking to Seleene = Bull***. I'm sorry but if you are going to blatently lie just to save face then thats a disgrace. You told me specifically NO and your exact following words were 'that contract is not in our best interests, goodbye.'. If you want to be two-faced go ahead, but at least have the decency to tell the truth to people and not spin things. You know EXACTLY how much i was willing to spend over six months. You poor, poor thing. You must be so scared! Here, come with Uncle Crovan. Leads Sunshang to checkout lanes* We seem to have a lost alt, here. I don't know who his main his, but if this keeps up, I might have to be his daddy. I would describe him but all you !'s look the same to me. So if you are missing an alt who fabricates stories so he can have his 15 minutes on EVE-O, he'll be up here tied to register 14. Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Zrevak Ashek The Blackwater Brigade	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:27:00 - [115] Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 13/11/2006 16:30:41 Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: KIAEddZ No way KIA could do anything to you other than p.iss you off, but if an employer is looking for that, then a unit like KIA or several others would fit just fine. If that is what an employer is looking for then so be it. Harping on about our previous failure (which consisted of 1 engagement and a mass exodus of KIA pilots that had nothing to do with the ocntract, and everything to do with Wow :( ) is just a poor show Db. If pointing out the reality of a situation is poor show then I must be a very poor man. You failed in your last contract against us. I couldn't careless for your whinings about why. Do what you want now Eddz, you won't annoy us in the slightest. You will just be another merc corp roaming around, killing very few BoB and making no difference to this war except to drain ASCN resources further. And if you still can't accept that simple truth then I feel truly dissapointed in you. dbp How successful KIA is against BOB all depends on their ability to lead ASCN fleets in combat against BOB. If KIA can do what they did during the GoonSwarm contract, THAT would prolly be the best option. 1: Use KIA only pilots to fight guerilla wars in combination with: 2: Use KIA pilots as ASCN fleet commanders in larger confrontations. The combination of the 2 is the only realistic way of inflicting BOB losses. What does that mean? THAT means ASCN HC must be willing to give KIA exactly what they ask for, so they can do their job effectively. IF HC is willing to do that, then they will also have done something right.
Raste Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:38:00 - [116] Edited by: Raste on 13/11/2006 16:38:19 Originally by: Zrevak Ashek 1: Use KIA only pilots to fight forum wars in combination with: 2: Use KIA pilots as Goonfleet ministers of information in larger threads. Fixed.
Zrevak Ashek The Blackwater Brigade	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:43:00 - [117] Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 13/11/2006 16:44:13 Originally by: Raste Edited by: Raste on 13/11/2006 16:38:19 Originally by: Zrevak Ashek 1: Use KIA only pilots to fight forum wars in combination with: 2: Use KIA pilots as Goonfleet ministers of information in larger threads. Fixed.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:43:00 - [118] Originally by: Raste Edited by: Raste on 13/11/2006 16:38:19 Originally by: Zrevak Ashek 1: Use KIA only pilots to fight forum wars in combination with: 2: Use KIA pilots as Goonfleet ministers of information in larger threads. Fixed. Your embarrasing yourself shhhh. (contract stats will show a 10-1 kill ratio, just so you know) Anyways, we are on contract, so not available to ASCN. We led Goon fleets, alongside their up n coming FCs and it was a very succesful contract. This contract we are employed for our cap ships, and as a bonus we get to fly round ganking stuff. Its a hard life ;) KIA EVE Home
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:47:00 - [119] This reeks of brain haemorrhage
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:56:00 - [120] Only read the first page, and dont want to read anymore of it... all I want is to say this is really humerous 8). WildCat

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