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King Fury Caldari New Justice	Posted - 2006.11.13 11:47:00 - [31] Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: King Fury Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: King Fury They are too closely affiliated to BoB no matter what they say, even if they did take the contract I doubt you could trust them, they have too much to lose. Id try KIA, dont know any other mercs but Im sure they'll post here to tout for business. Mhm ... sure. You are too young to understand. But please go ahead. Typical BoB posting for the sake of posting and making no real sense Please comeback whe you have something constructive to add. Seriously, go ask KIAEddz ingame about it, KIA isn't something we are discussing in this thread. Or ask me ingame if you want me to explain you some history. Sorry I misunderstood, my point is hiring MC against BoB is a waste of time as really they are BoB just without the ticker. I was therefore suggesting that KIA would be a better option or another merc corp (Sorry I dont know any others).
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.11.13 11:48:00 - [32] Originally by: DB Preacher Hehe, Perhaps you should check out how successful KIA were last time against us before wasting your money. Let's just say that they never quite finished their contract. Cheers, dbp LoL DB. You were our 1 and only failure in over 2 years of Mercing and over 20 succesful contracts. It came at a time when i was unable to be online, some key members were bored of Eve and decided to leave, and the people left were inexperienced and disorganised. We were honest about our failings, up front as to why, and took the hit to our reputation on the chin. Whilst I appreciate your sentiment, and idd have a lot of respect for BoB, we'd take a contract on you in a heartbeat for the right price. Your comment was petty, fkin snidey and tbh fkd me off. Maybe we will get to see you round after all. xx KIA EVE Home
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.13 11:50:00 - [33] Originally by: Xeliya TBH if I were MC and you had a good plan I would be looking for a minimum of 500bill for week 1 and probably 100bill per week after and I highly doubt anyone who could put that kind of isk up would do it. 1 week just isn't enough to hurt bob. Think Seleenes figures were lower some time ago, when she said something that below 12 or 13 (?) bil isk per week or something like that and having a play they wouldn't do it. (Too lazy to try to find it with eve-search. ) Well, those number are many months old and she just said it to give people an idea about the sums, but 500bil per week would be a bit extreme compared to that. Ok, MC didn't have 4 outposts at that time.
Karmic Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 11:51:00 - [34] Originally by: maGz Edited by: maGz on 13/11/2006 11:41:45 Originally by: Max Teranous 4) We require a plan. "Kill BoB" is not a plan. Surely MC have been hired before "just" to kill as many as possible. What makes BoB any different? I see this excuse being used every single time someone ask why MC haven't fought BoB, yet it still rings immensely bad in my ears as a bad excuse EDIT: Added for effect fair enough "go kill some ships" is a plan but I'm sorry its not one that will work against BoB, well not effectively enough. Also there is not enough purpose in that plan either, come on you have to make it interesting for us. I'm not saying its just about the money, its the main reason, but we also have to keep it fun as well and running round BoB space popping seleene's alts in there hulks and indies just doesn't do it for me anymore. - - - - - - - - -
Techtriz	Posted - 2006.11.13 11:55:00 - [35] Edited by: Techtriz on 13/11/2006 11:58:32 Originally by: Sunshang Last week I attempted to hire MC to attack BOB. I was told NO, despite my unlimited wallet to pay for it. I was under the assumption that real mercenaries work for the highest bidder, i thought real mercenaries feared no one and stayed well out of the political arena. Obviously I was wrong. So MC, can you give a list of all the corps and alliances you wont take contracts out on please to save everyone some time? I think i'll give my billions to KIA, I know they are not afraid of BOB. Agreed, MC is just a BOB puppet. Hint: See where MC's outpost is placed. PS. I thought the mercenaries was the ones to come up with the plan? And not the customer, which in most cases choose to hire mercs, because of their small experience in the fighting area.
Buxaroo Black Dwarf Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:01:00 - [36] Originally by: BlackLight I see Anue created a new alt. Who is this Anue guy everyone keeps refering to? Oh, and I see BlackLights post isn't in thread anymore. WTF?
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:02:00 - [37] Originally by: KIAEddZ Your comment was petty, fkin snidey and tbh fkd me off. Maybe we will get to see you round after all. xx It wasn't petty eddz, it was realistic. I doubt I will ever see you because if you are hired, you won't be on the frontlines. You'll be in empire trying to gank our non-existing industrialists or you'll be in delve trying to gank our non-existing industrialists. If you come down onto the frontlines, you are going to find yourself outnumbered and dead. I'm sorry if you still can't stand up and understand the reality of your situation, I thought after all you had seen in Eve that you would have but that wasn't smak. I just call it exactly how I see it and am not afraid to call it for what it is. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Thalera Saldana Minmatar Oxymorons from Outer Space	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:03:00 - [38] Edited by: Thalera Saldana on 13/11/2006 12:03:30 Originally by: Techtriz PS. I thought the mercenaries was the ones to come up with the plan? And not the customer, which in most cases choose to hire mercs, because of their small experience in the fighting area. They may of course mean Strategic plan as in attack Big Blue to blow up the capital ship yards. I'm fairly certain they do the Tactical planning themselves . . Thal
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:08:00 - [39] Originally by: Sunshang That's private, but lets just say I have more than enough to hire any merc to fight whoever I want for at least 6 months. Apparently you dont, if you did MC would have accepted the contract ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Bizarre TAOSP	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:10:00 - [40] Cut the crap Aneu. Noone is buying your bull****. Go back to the Planetarion forums, where you may have some credibility left. Although I doubt people will believe you there. --------------------

Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:11:00 - [41] This subjects been done to death now. Blacklight and ugluuk pretty nailed it (omg i'm goingo agree with ugluuk what is the world coming to? ). We are a business, you need to make any proposition worth our while and it needs to be sustainable. The majority of our contracts are perfectly sustainable if the task was to 'just kill stuff', as there isn't a risk of 500 of them turning up in our home system fielding 50 dreads. However this is exactly what will happen the moment we declare a war on BoB without a plan, we are not as numerous as them. Its not our job to satisfy your idea at the cost of our business, we are here to make money, otherwise we would be fairly poor mercs. Generally we get fairly specific objectives to complete, although the exact 'how' is our discretion i think the client is expected to put in legwork - To summarise turning up as an alt and saying i want BoB killed here is a cookie will not get you a contract. You are welcome to go elsewhere to a merc corp who will work for an alt and a cookie.
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:13:00 - [42] Originally by: Bizarre Cut the crap Aneu. Noone is buying your bull****. Go back to the Planetarion forums, where you may have some credibility left. Although I doubt people will believe you there. Not really any on there since he started working with Killmark and buddying his attacks (well until they fell out).
Trooper B99 Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:14:00 - [43] huh? wha? TUBORG! bleugh! huh? VITOC! meh? what?! VIKING! The Monday after a Fanfest is a bad day for work, more sensible level headed post after lunch but expect it to be in the same vein as Karmic and Max's unless Seleene talks at mr limitless pockets first. . Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106 PvP Tournament Semi-Finalist - 2006 FanFest
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:16:00 - [44] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: KIAEddZ Your comment was petty, fkin snidey and tbh fkd me off. Maybe we will get to see you round after all. xx It wasn't petty eddz, it was realistic. I doubt I will ever see you because if you are hired, you won't be on the frontlines. You'll be in empire trying to gank our non-existing industrialists or you'll be in delve trying to gank our non-existing industrialists. If you come down onto the frontlines, you are going to find yourself outnumbered and dead. I'm sorry if you still can't stand up and understand the reality of your situation, I thought after all you had seen in Eve that you would have but that wasn't smak. I just call it exactly how I see it and am not afraid to call it for what it is. dbp A contractor would hardly ask KIA to go take your blob on now would he ;) No way KIA could do anything to you other than p.iss you off, but if an employer is looking for that, then a unit like KIA or several others would fit just fine. If that is what an employer is looking for then so be it. Harping on about our previous failure (which consisted of 1 engagement and a mass exodus of KIA pilots that had nothing to do with the ocntract, and everything to do with Wow :( ) is just a poor show Db. KIA EVE Home
Larsson7 Minmatar Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:18:00 - [45] It is great to come to the forums on a Monday and see the daily "MC wont fight BoB" thread. It is an old and tired subject and yet alts just want to bring it to the fore every day. I can tell you that MC generally have multiple contract offers in front of the 4 CEO's and Directors to consider. These range from hiring us to protect a complex for 2 weeks up to major attacks on the larger Alliances. We are always aware that we want our members to have as much fun as possible while ensuring that the price for our services are reflective of the quality of service that we provide. I know that the above will not satiate the inherent desire of the conspiracy theorists to continue and pour out their ill-informed diatribe, however, I no longer care.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:21:00 - [46] Edited by: DB Preacher on 13/11/2006 12:21:27 Originally by: KIAEddZ No way KIA could do anything to you other than p.iss you off, but if an employer is looking for that, then a unit like KIA or several others would fit just fine. If that is what an employer is looking for then so be it. Harping on about our previous failure (which consisted of 1 engagement and a mass exodus of KIA pilots that had nothing to do with the ocntract, and everything to do with Wow :( ) is just a poor show Db. If pointing out the reality of a situation is poor show then I must be a very poor man. You failed in your last contract against us. I couldn't careless for your whinings about why. Do what you want now Eddz, you won't annoy us in the slightest. You will just be another merc corp roaming around, killing very few BoB and making no difference to this war except to drain ASCN resources further. And if you still can't accept that simple truth then I feel truly dissapointed in you. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Toppar Wear Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:22:00 - [47] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: KIAEddZ Your comment was petty, fkin snidey and tbh fkd me off. Maybe we will get to see you round after all. xx It wasn't petty eddz, it was realistic. I doubt I will ever see you because if you are hired, you won't be on the frontlines. You'll be in empire trying to gank our non-existing industrialists or you'll be in delve trying to gank our non-existing industrialists. If you come down onto the frontlines, you are going to find yourself outnumbered and dead. I'm sorry if you still can't stand up and understand the reality of your situation, I thought after all you had seen in Eve that you would have but that wasn't smak. I just call it exactly how I see it and am not afraid to call it for what it is. dbp Being realistic is not the same as being disrespecfull. There a lot of ways to tell something, some are more offending then others.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:26:00 - [48] Edited by: KIAEddZ on 13/11/2006 12:28:47 Originally by: DB Preacher "stuff" If you had just pointed out your reality, which i do agree with (the reality that KIA coud not damage BoB long term) then i wouldnt of felt the need to post m8y, but your snidey and pretty disresepctful comment "look what happened last time they tried" (i think about 18 months ago ;) ) was just a little too much to not respond to. But sigh, i was determined to not get into any arguments on these forums this week! So i agree with the essence of what your saying. Play on Db. KIA EVE Home
Sun Ra Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:36:00 - [49] KIA alt trying to drum up business ? Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas'
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:37:00 - [50] Correct me if I'm wrong, but if MC took a contract on BOB, that would mean they loose their 4 stations (intangible value associated with that). Probably in excess of 150-200 billion. Now, considering MC are in no position to destroy BOB, it would simply result in a lot of lost ships for afew weeks then handing BOB 4 free stations. What would be the point in that?

Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:41:00 - [51] Originally by: Shin Ra Correct me if I'm wrong, but if MC took a contract on BOB, that would mean they loose their 4 stations (intangible value associated with that). Probably in excess of 150-200 billion. Now, considering MC are in no position to destroy BOB, it would simply result in a lot of lost ships for afew weeks then handing BOB 4 free stations. What would be the point in that? At least junior here still has his common sense circuit plugged in Blog
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:42:00 - [52] Originally by: Shin Ra Correct me if I'm wrong, but if MC took a contract on BOB, that would mean they loose their 4 stations (intangible value associated with that). Probably in excess of 150-200 billion. Unless they brokered a deal with BoB not to do capital ships, which is a very high possibility. - EVE is sick.
Doc Nefarious Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:45:00 - [53] goto www.mercenarycoalition.com and fill in the contract contact form - use your main we don't deal with alts - have a plan or an idea of a plan don't come to us expecting miracles, miracles cost more than a normal contract - please remember we have many contracts being offered to us so if we say we are busy its the truth - we will take a contract on BoB but please remember all the above and have a very large wallet, and expect to pay alot upfront - anything else Seleene feels is pertinant How would that work the MC war deccing BoB ?? Doesn't the MC live in BoB space ? That is really silly asking the MC to attack an alliance that is housing them. Or is that just forum propoganda? Seriusly what would happen after the war dec i men the MC would need a new home not that they would have any trouble finding or making one but that just doesn't make sense. besides that i have great respect for the MC but i doubt that they could withstand a BoB assault no matter how air tight the plan is. I think that is just ridicolous and the only person anyone should listen to on the official stance of the MC and a war dec on BoB would be seleene or one of sel's alt's. Unless he says there could may possibly have that seriously looked at then you would need to outline some decent goals. besides I think the MC would love to fight BoB as much as BoB would like to fight them purely on the basis that it would be one hell of a good fight. So you would be affectively paying them to just have some fun which BoB would probably still house them after. on 2nd thought i would pay to see if the MC can be the alliance to break the BoB I'll add 5bil isk to anyone seriously entertaining the idea of hiring MC against BoB. They better make a video of it that would be sweet, best video in eve. Anyho gtg but this was an interesting post ty for it
Sunshang Amarr Corp Robs Other Corp	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:55:00 - [54] Edited by: Sunshang on 13/11/2006 12:56:10 Originally by: Ithildin Unless they brokered a deal with BoB not to do capital ships, which is a very high possibility. My contract included a specific low number of capitals to safe.guard against any form of 'collaboration', but even though im not too concerned about them collaborating as i know if you take a hit on bob they don't kiss & make up later, they destroy you. Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Shin Ra Now, considering MC are in no position to destroy BOB, it would simply result in a lot of lost ships for afew weeks then handing BOB 4 free stations. What would be the point in that? At least junior here still has his common sense circuit plugged in So you don't believe MC are good enough to hurt you even with unlimited funding?
Captain Hudson Caldari Bravehearts Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:56:00 - [55] Originally by: Sunshang Edited by: Sunshang on 13/11/2006 12:55:18 Originally by: Ithildin Unless they brokered a deal with BoB not to do capital ships, which is a very high possibility. My contract included a specific low number of capitals to sa*uard against any form of 'collaboration', but even though im not too concerned about them collaborating as i know if you take a hit on bob they don't kiss & make up later, they destroy you. Originally by:** Blacklight Originally by: Shin Ra Now, considering MC are in no position to destroy BOB, it would simply result in a lot of lost ships for afew weeks then handing BOB 4 free stations. What would be the point in that? At least junior here still has his common sense circuit plugged in So you don't believe MC are good enough to hurt you even with unlimited funding? The Power of Ebay ]
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:57:00 - [56] Originally by: Sunshang So you don't believe MC are good enough to hurt you even with unlimited funding? What I believe is irrelevant in this case, you're not trying to hire me are you? Go back and read what Sivona wrote if you want the pertinant facts. Blog
Sunshang Amarr Corp Robs Other Corp	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:58:00 - [57] Originally by: Captain Hudson The Power of Ebay Says the bob puppet, please go troll elsewhere
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:03:00 - [58] How are KIA any different on this? MC wont attack BOB because they have mutual benefits to each other and fighting each other wouldnt be beneficial to either. As an example try and hire KIA to attack OSS or GOONs, you will get the exact same answer as you got for MC attacking BOB, NO. CEO - Art of War
Trooper B99 Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:04:00 - [59] Edited by: Trooper B99 on 13/11/2006 13:06:40 Okay, now that I've had a sandwich and some Irn-bru (said in slurred glaswegian to Nordica staff WTF do you mean you don't stock Irn-Bru, its a 4 Star hotel FFS!) I think that if you are a legitimate contractor this should be taken to a more private communication. Considering a healthy proportion of the MC leadership have been in Iceland recently or getting ready for such, I would ask you specfifically WHO you contacted regarding this contract, WHEN you first contacted them and when you FOLLOWED up on contact and if you used your MAIN character for said contact. As has been posted before there are specifics YOU as the contractor have to come up or have thought about either before contact with the MC leadership or in conjunction with said party. Also, the actions of the client during negotiations can affect how they are treated in regards to a contract. Either way, if you are indeed serious please answer my three questions and get in touch with us at our website. . Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106 PvP Tournament Semi-Finalist - 2006 FanFest
Doc Nefarious Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:17:00 - [60] Allright fine if u need help on a plan to present to th e=mC use this.. The object wil be to capture the flag. If they can do that and hold it long enough they win. You will just be paying them to have fun and i believe there is a rivalry betweent the allainces in terms of skills anyway. also you are forgetting they live together in 0.0 space so they have flown and fought together also made friends with each other. BoB respect the MC, The MC respect BoB even if you really do have an unlimited wallet then what point will that prove anyway. You did this over the forums so u nearly sell out who your main is with. So basically u r asking the MC to pursue a contract against BoB and who else would be desperate enough to throw unlimited funding at them no tin foil hat there. Maybe you could contact KIA and maybe they would accept the contract i cant speak for them. I have flown with them so i know they are capable. I think if you have an unlimited wallet then purchase a titan for bob load the cargo bays up with flowers and an aoplogy letter and maybe you will get them out of your space On that note i cant speak for BoB but i assume its a start. ROFl some of the crap that gets slung on these public viewing forums is just funny.. I was in the ASCN so on the note ofthe ASCN led attacks i will suggest they are just having fun causing mayhem i dont think they actually care if MC entered the war or not. I believe they would hold it as more fun, I really think that for the ASCN boys they are just loving all this fighting and random BoB and MC ganking. So sel on that note just pop them on sight give them the fight they are looking for and enjoy the killmails i really dont believe they will stop having there fun and also dont believe anything can actually be accomplished by threatening them. There are some funny guys in that alliance and it is after all a game i believe they have already resigned to the fatc they are beaten and are just having some fun b4 ASCN pop's. TBH Sel dont worry I think ASCN are clear they should not intrude into your space but as long as it is fun you cant stop them and awar dec is just what seems to be what they are after, so you will be affectively feeding the desiree's of ASCN pilot's and other alts that want that. WoW guy's this is just game sometime's i think the reality of how things are run in eve just gets taken way out of proportion... geez.. I remeber fighting with my mates like this when i was like 10 years old whilst playing streetfighter and mortal kombat. After u beat your friends there would be all out fights at the bike shed after school and all i am ever seeing is the sane stuff only adults trying to use somewhat ellaborate and sophisticated verbal spammage to win points. TBH the 10 year old way of dealing with is more affective and ends it quicker this is all bs Fight or dont Fight, Die or dont die. who cares as long as u got a clone and some good iskie's what difference does a podding make anyway they just respawn like belt rats they drop better stuff though. ANyway enough counter spam gtg



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