Prices have been raised to ridiculous levels

Now its basically impossible to make any sort of cash from PI.

Now its basically impossible to make any sort of cash from PI.

These two statements are incompatible.

CCP decided not to remove them like they promised!

I know that they said that some Customs Offices would be transferred to InterBus, but I never heard them promise to remove Customs Offices.

I know the prices will adjust, but since the PI import/export will now be based on market price, as the market price increases, the import export tax will also increase, so the price will always be in flux. And theres a limit to what people will pay for PI mats.


Then read the original blog. They never said nullsec would get a default 17% tax, and have to shoot down their customs offices.

How?

Market prices for PI products are already rising to compensate for increased taxes, as is inevitable.

The goods I have sold from a few High Sec planets have already netted me more profit than before the expansion, despite the new taxes.

The more market prices rise the easier it is to make money from PI.

Seriously... What the hell...
Prices have been raised to ridiculous levels, and to top it off, we have to spend 3 billion years destroying the old customs offices now as CCP decided not to remove them like they promised!

Now its basically impossible to make any sort of cash from PI.

CCP, when making price changes, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE bear in mind that sometimes you pay multiple fees. Its not possible to produce everything on one planet, so with multiple export and import fees being done along production, even the best laid out planet structures are costing nearly 50% in tax by the time you reach the final product.

I know PI used to be low risk high profit, but chucking a 200x multiplier (yes folks, 200x, not 200%) on taxes is a bit overboard!

OP: You're doing it wrong on basically all counts. You can still print insane amounts of ISK with PI just not ~as~ insane as before. As for IBCO popping. Get some friends, Get a 3rd Tier BC (more than one) and make it a party.

Your comment on taxes is also wrong. i'm paying like 20% which sucks when you factor in the fact that I was paying 1% before.

Stop bellyaching, adapt, overcome, rinse ~and~ repeat.

Shock horror CCP once again fails on all counts.

failed on all counts because YOU don't like the changes?

Got it.

It's all well and good, but CCP didnt market this as "we want to **** you for taxes as we need more ISK sinks", they marketed it as "we want to give you more control". Shock horror CCP once again fails on all counts.
All I can say is its a damn good thing they made warping look so pretty.

Failed on all counts, since the given idea was drasticallly altered by the time the patch is delivered, and failed on all counts as its clear they aren't looking to give more control to players. if they were, theyd allow corps to buy out the interbus offices, or give the intebus ones drastically reduced hitpoints.

They even said themselves that noone wants to spend time shootign at structures that dont shoot back. It should take less than 10 mins to clear the NPC owned ones with a group.

Failed on all counts, since the given idea was drasticallly altered by the time the patch is delivered, and failed on all counts as its clear they aren't looking to give more control to players. if they were, theyd allow corps to buy out the interbus offices, or give the intebus ones drastically reduced hitpoints.

They even said themselves that noone wants to spend time shootign at structures that dont shoot back. It should take less than 10 mins to clear the NPC owned ones with a group.

thanks for confirming that you just don't get EvE.

It takes more than 10 minutes to destroy a customs office because - whether it works or not - CCP are trying to introduce a choke-point for conflicts. By your logic, why not just have a "take down office" button that instantly dismantles it?

And your one single instance of why this doesn't suit you doesn't make this a failure. Seems to be working pretty well in our WH - we now pay zero taxes but can charge our neighbours, so by your self-involved logic, I should claim this is a complete success?

Failed on all counts, since the given idea was drasticallly altered by the time the patch is delivered

I think your missing the point. The tax price will increase as the market price increases so it will always be % of market price. If you have to pay 10% tax per import and 10% tax per export, then even if you only do export -> import -> export -> import -> export, you pay 50% overall tax by the time you reach the high level materials, regardless of sale price.

one thing we do agree on, however, is that CCP should pick an idea and just stick with it. No matter if the feedback is bad, no matter if they see flaws in thinking, no matter if it unbalances things - they need to just pick some arbitrary rules and implement them.

To please you.

Did anyone else throw up a little in their mouth when they went to do PI?

All im saying is let people know that plans have changed. we can only prep for what were given. If they suddenly said fuel blocks would be made entirely of soil and exotic dancers and was beign switched over tomorrow, people would be pretty annoyed.

so, you went on SiSi to test and provide feedback and were aware of changes before they went live, or are you upset because all your info was taken from the blog that, conceptually, laid out the plan?

I'm really not trying to be argumentative, but your whole point seems to be "Huh, this isn't what I expected and therefore I believe CCP have failed on all counts."

ha
tbh i quite enjoy the new tax hike

its made the price for PI rise to stupid levels which in turn has made me billions, in tadeing and selling my stock. now that i have my POCO's up there is no cost at all to my PI system which means i make 100% profit... that just profit, and before i was paying at least 30mil in tax, now 0 and im makeing 200% more on each unit i sell... i call that epic sucess (for me at least)

It's all well and good, but CCP didnt market this as "we want to **** you for taxes as we need more ISK sinks", they marketed it as "we want to give you more control". Shock horror CCP once again fails on all counts.
All I can say is its a damn good thing they made warping look so pretty.