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Kery Nysell
Caldari
Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.14 10:41:00 -
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Hmmm ...
I mainly use my Tractor Beams to grab the cans of ore during my corp's mining ops ... if post-Kali they only work on wrecks, that'll throw a spanner in the works ...
We can fill a jetcan in about 5 mins, our haulers need their Beams because our mining op moves in the belt, doing a new insta bookmark on the can every 5 mins is not practical ... so they "warp at 15 kms" to a member near a can, lock and pull it, empty it and then dock ... nice and efficient.
Is it confirmed that Tractor Beams won't work on jetissoned cans after Kali ?
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Mallakk
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Posted - 2006.11.14 10:52:00 -
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This game is WOWing... people are now too lazy to loot their loot themselves and will soon ask it delivered in the cargo hold of their ship directly...
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Outro
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.14 11:28:00 -
[33]
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it delivered in the cargo hold of their ship directly...
You sir, are a genius!
**** END OF MESSAGE ****
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2006.11.14 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng
WTF - this is the sign of a real mission*****grinder.
GET YOUR FAT A$$ RAVEN ON THE MOVE!
or use a faster more agile ship!
Use nanos! use MWD or AFTERBURNER!
What you really want is a "give me isk button" that you can click every 10 minutes for 10 million isk.
Soon you will be whining because you have to undock the station every now and then.
Play the freakin game the way it was intended to.
Just warpin in and stayin still at one spot spamming missiles left and right and then go back to dock and repeat all over and over and over again is NOT what this was supposed to be!
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JustBlaze
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Posted - 2006.11.14 11:50:00 -
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GIMME SHIP TRACTOR BEAMS /me sucks in all teh lil ships and eats them
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.14 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mallakk
This game is WOWing... people are now too lazy to loot their loot themselves and will soon ask it delivered in the cargo hold of their ship directly...
lol,
if anything is wow like, then its looting as it is now.
click, click, click. click, click, click. and those clicks go without thinking about the task. remember that?
right.
THAT's wow.
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Heikki
Gallente
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2006.11.14 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
so i think, im not asking for anything
1) that draws too much manpower from important tasks
2) creates an imbalance in combat
But have you considered whether it inbalances:
3) risk or work versus ISK gains
Are you also asking for income boost to missioners/NPCers? If not, making looting faster or less boring should also imply nerf on the value of typical can loot (which would hurt those who've managed to organize their looting better than others). Or if you do want such boost, should try to argument why it is warranted.
-Lasse
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.14 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/11/2006 13:23:17
i dont care if the loot gets less valuable. have you ever looted a mission? i dont know, but all i get is crap.
but still, sometimes i want some mins to build stuff.
most mission runners.. well... run from mission to mission without looting. for lp, for bounties and the reward. and in the long run, they make MORE isk than those mission *****s, that actually loot.
im sure you know that.
so, ALL it would do, is bring the runners and looters more in line. but PLEASE, for ****s sake, can we NOT turn this thread into another balance discussion?
if you want bigger beams, shout with me.
if you want to discuss balance... well... nobody can help you anyway.
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Mallakk
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
lol,
if anything is wow like, then its looting as it is now.
click, click, click. click, click, click. and those clicks go without thinking about the task. remember that?
right.
THAT's wow.
What is lame is being too lazy to loot your own mission and whinning on the board for a way to do nothing.
Whatever you pvp, mission or mine, its a game, the goal can only be reach, and is only interesting, if you spend a few time trying to reach it, not if the devs put your reward directly in your mouth.
Lazy people already ruined most game like UO, EQ, FFXI and many other, no need to do it with Eve, there is plenty of space for lazy people already.
It take too long to mission.. too long to travel, too long to mine... god, change game and go make thing faster, perhaps some people like when things takes time. My wife does, and i do my best to ! How's your ?
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/11/2006 15:09:35
right...
and if we would be getting (the already coded) bigger beams, or dedicated lootships with beamrange bonus...
YOU, of course, would still be using the old methods, because the new ones are too easy... sure. ill believe that right away.
im not asking for anything that would make eve less interesting.
and if you would start to think about it, you could see that.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mallakk
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
It take too long to mission.. too long to travel, too long to mine... god, change game and go make thing faster, perhaps some people like when things takes time. My wife does, and i do my best to ! How's your ?
Ehm.. r u really trying to make a comparison between boring ingame events and... nevermind :S I won't even comment on this. :| |
Slevin Kalebra
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:18:00 -
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I'd like to see larger tractor beams. As well as different ranges, the mass of the container / wreck being towed should affect the speed at which the tractor can tow it. Also using a large tractor on a fragile object could cause the towed container to be torn apart by the stress if it takes too long - That would be pretty simple to implement: containers already have hit points, just apply a slight hit point degradation to the container per tractor cycle... container reaches zero before you loot it... boom no loot.
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Mallakk
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:24:00 -
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There nothing boring in... looting. I like to loot, especially going to the can of the battleship, sometimes there is a surprise inside, sometimes there is only carp... my only regret is there is not 0.0001 chance for a bpc drop that would make the action wayyyy more amazing than it is.
Its not because you think its boring than most of the player think so. Lazyness isn't a rule.
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Paigan
Amarr
Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:28:00 -
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I already shouted for the same thing in the kali forum.
Noone cared. Not even the players...
There are already medium any heavy TBs in the game, but not seeded yet.
Not only uncomfortable, but even pretty mean and intentionally customer-annoying from CCP, if you ask me.
Even World of Borecraft provides more comfortable looting.
ITS IN THE GAME. SEED IT!!!!
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Carnye Dubro
Caldari
Shock and Awe
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Posted - 2006.11.14 17:16:00 -
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I use a Prophecy with seven tractors fitted, an ABII and spilt lows between nanos and cargo expanders... works like a charm. (you could fit a MWD to it... but would have to complete the mission before you could use it...)
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 15/11/2006 00:11:33
Originally by: Carnye Dubro
I use a Prophecy with seven tractors fitted, an ABII and spilt lows between nanos and cargo expanders... works like a charm. (you could fit a MWD to it... but would have to complete the mission before you could use it...)
how bigs the hold on that?
i bet not enough...
i was thinking of getting an extra battleship, just so i can fit more beams to it. but after adding enough expanders, so its actually a little useful...it just wont really move anymore... 
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Kaathar Rielspar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:15:00 -
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if it hasn't already been said (didn't read thread):
pffft
be glad you've got a small beam, back in the day it was all manual labor flying to each can, you kids got it easy these days
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Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe
Originally by: Eximius Josari
If BS Sized HACs would be overpowered, what are HACs?
Overpriced Nos victims.
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kaathar Rielspar
be glad you've got a small beam, back in the day it was all manual labor flying to each can, you kids got it easy these days
yeah, sure.
when i was a kid we had to walk three hours through 2 metre deep snow just to get to the coal mine, where we worked 28 hours a day for 5 cents.
we had no toothbrushes, no, only rusty barbwire.
and did we complain?
no! we were happy about the things we got!
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Riddick06
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Posted - 2006.11.15 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng
WTF - this is the sign of a real mission*****grinder.
GET YOUR FAT A$$ RAVEN ON THE MOVE!
or use a faster more agile ship!
Use nanos! use MWD or AFTERBURNER!
What you really want is a "give me isk button" that you can click every 10 minutes for 10 million isk.
Soon you will be whining because you have to undock the station every now and then.
Play the freakin game the way it was intended to.
Just warpin in and stayin still at one spot spamming missiles left and right and then go back to dock and repeat all over and over and over again is NOT what this was supposed to be!
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Sandra you are not adding anything positive to the conversation can you please edit your post with these... 
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.17 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng
WTF - this is the sign of a real mission*****grinder.
GET YOUR FAT A$$ RAVEN ON THE MOVE!
or use a faster more agile ship!
Use nanos! use MWD or AFTERBURNER!
What you really want is a "give me isk button" that you can click every 10 minutes for 10 million isk.
Soon you will be whining because you have to undock the station every now and then.
Play the freakin game the way it was intended to.
Just warpin in and stayin still at one spot spamming missiles left and right and then go back to dock and repeat all over and over and over again is NOT what this was supposed to be!
oh lol, yeah sure.
fyi, i use a domi. i just warpin and after i got the aggro on my faction tank, i only have to release my drones!
spammin missiles is so... eighties...
and another lol.
dont ya think i got a lootship with mwd?
hm?
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