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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.13 16:55:00 -
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I cant stand it anymore. Looting Lvl4s is a pain. and yet, sometimes i have to do it. You dont want to go mining for minerals, now, do you?
Enough is enough! stand up with me, and shout, no SCREAM with me:
We want em bigger tractor beams! we want autoloot options for dem beams! and we wouldnt mind retriever drones, that loot them cans for us!
Power to the people! We are the people! and we loot our crap!
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Riddick06
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Posted - 2006.11.13 16:58:00 -
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AAAAAAAARRRRRRGGHHHHHH NEEEEEEED BIIIGGERR TRACTOR BEEEEEAMS!!!11110ONE!!!!!!!11ELEVEN1!!!!
big enough shout?
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.13 17:02:00 -
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yeah, something like that.
did i mention, that it seems, those things are already in the DB, but not seeded, yet.
so i think, im not asking for anything 1) that draws too much manpower from important tasks 2) creates an imbalance in combat well... maybe it makes hit-and-run more profitable under certain circumstances.
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Ashira Twilight
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Posted - 2006.11.13 17:05:00 -
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/me DEMANDS IT!
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.11.13 17:25:00 -
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The main argument against tractor beams in the first place was the knowledge that people like you would soon be posting this drivel!
do 2x tractor beams, MWD and nanos on a indie not loot fast enough for you?
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Tunahelper
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Posted - 2006.11.13 17:26:00 -
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Would be nice if you could just stick on in the 8th slot of a raven and loot as you go, without the need to fly back in a dedicated looter. Though it all changes with salvage anyway.
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.13 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 13/11/2006 17:41:03
Originally by: Audri Fisher do 2x tractor beams, MWD and nanos on a indie not loot fast enough for you?
1) no. 2) i have an exequoror with 4 beams and mwd. it can fit most lvl4 loot in one go. is it fast enough. yes and no.
its not about fast, its about a mind numbing clickety click repeatative task.
this is the age of space travel, man! i would settle for a 20km autolooting tractor field, tho.
edit: and about "that people like you...blablabla" i bet when there were no tractor beams, people were shouting "give us tractor beams" so please, bug off.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.11.13 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tunahelper Would be nice if you could just stick on in the 8th slot of a raven and loot as you go, without the need to fly back in a dedicated looter. Though it all changes with salvage anyway.
why? tractor beams post kali work on wrecks only.
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Tiem
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Posted - 2006.11.13 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Taipan Gedscho Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 13/11/2006 17:41:03
Originally by: Audri Fisher do 2x tractor beams, MWD and nanos on a indie not loot fast enough for you?
1) no. 2) i have an exequoror with 4 beams and mwd. it can fit most lvl4 loot in one go. is it fast enough. yes and no.
its not about fast, its about a mind numbing clickety click repeatative task.
this is the age of space travel, man! i would settle for a 20km autolooting tractor field, tho.
edit: and about "that people like you...blablabla" i bet when there were no tractor beams, people were shouting "give us tractor beams" so please, bug off.
<sarcasm/>Actually, tractor beams were an idea of a genious at CCP. It was never thought of before by any player or dev.</sarcasm>
Seriously though, medium and large beams would be sweet. Though with the introduction of salvaging in Kali, I wonder what will happen to mission loot.
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Riddick06
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Posted - 2006.11.13 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: Rid****06 on 13/11/2006 21:20:11
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho yeah, something like that.
did i mention, that it seems, those things are already in the DB, but not seeded, yet.
so i think, im not asking for anything 1) that draws too much manpower from important tasks 2) creates an imbalance in combat well... maybe it makes hit-and-run more profitable under certain circumstances.
edit: smeggin lost what i wrote here
no reason i can see not having bigger or just doubling the range of the current one we have. Tractor beams cant be used on anything other than your corps cans or npc cans you killed.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.11.13 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tiem
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 13/11/2006 17:41:03
Originally by: Audri Fisher do 2x tractor beams, MWD and nanos on a indie not loot fast enough for you?
1) no. 2) i have an exequoror with 4 beams and mwd. it can fit most lvl4 loot in one go. is it fast enough. yes and no.
its not about fast, its about a mind numbing clickety click repeatative task.
this is the age of space travel, man! i would settle for a 20km autolooting tractor field, tho.
edit: and about "that people like you...blablabla" i bet when there were no tractor beams, people were shouting "give us tractor beams" so please, bug off.
<sarcasm/>Actually, tractor beams were an idea of a genious at CCP. It was never thought of before by any player or dev.</sarcasm>
Seriously though, medium and large beams would be sweet. Though with the introduction of salvaging in Kali, I wonder what will happen to mission loot.
instead of cans, the mission loot is in wrecks. Game mechanics are exatcly the smae. you kill npc, use tractor beam on the wreck, pull normal loot out. The only thing that is changing is the Graphic's and the fact that you can get other goodies with the right skills/mods.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.13 21:43:00 -
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No more tractor beams!
Say Yes to TRACTOR SMARTBOMBS - Suck all those cans in! --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
Gindar
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: Gindar on 13/11/2006 23:06:59
Originally by: Lord WarATron No more tractor beams!
i couldn't agree more.
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Spiderweb
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:06:00 -
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They have to buff titans. Its really unfair that these expensive ships are crap for PVE. Make them viable for missions and ratting ..
so
Pls make a Doomsday AOE Tractor blast that sucks every can on the system. -----------------------------------------------
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Ohmy Fugod
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ohmy Fugod on 13/11/2006 23:18:35
Quote: do 2x tractor beams, MWD and nanos on a indie not loot fast enough for you?
I'm sure I'm missing something here.
A 10mn MWD I requires 150 grid to fit.
An Iteron MkV has 85 base grid + Engineering lvl 5 = 106.25 total grid. And 5 Lo Slots.
My Badger MkII has 80 grid + Eng 5 = 100 grid. And 3 Lo Slots.
+So how the hell do you fit a MWD *and* nanos when you have to go for so many fitting mods?
And even then, I just can't figure out a way of slapping one on a Badger II, not even with said fitting mods. With 3 x Reactor Control II there's no room for even 1 Tractor beam.
Anyway, I bet there *must* be a way, so please explain.
Ahh and btw, that's why I use an Osprey with 4 x Tractor Beams and 3 x Cargo Expanders in lo's... loots *way* faster than an Indy. Also, carrying capacity ain't much of a trouble excepting for big loot missions like the Extravaganzas. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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Kery Nysell
Caldari Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ohmy Fugod Edited by: Ohmy Fugod on 13/11/2006 23:09:29
Quote: do 2x tractor beams, MWD and nanos on a indie not loot fast enough for you?
I'm sure I'm missing something here.
A 10mn MWD I requires 150 grid to fit.
An Iteron MkV has 85 base grid + Engineering lvl 5 = 106.25 total grid. And 5 Lo Slots.
My Badger MkII has 80 grid + Eng 5 = 100 grid. And 3 Lo Slots.
+So how the hell do you fit a MWD *and* nanos when you have to go for so many fitting mods?
And even then, I just can't figure out a way of slapping one on a Badger II, not even with said fitting mods. With 3 x Reactor Control II there's no room for even 1 Tractor beam.
Anyway, I bet there *must* be a way, so please explain.
Blockade Runners, the T2 industrials.
Those are the only ones with enough PG to fit an MWD + something else.
That being said, a Sigil with 5 nanofibers and a T2 AB can reach speeds around 1.000 m/s, fit 2 Tractor Beams and a silly 2-slots shield tank (booster+invuln), turn as quickly as a frigate and warp like greased lightning ...
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Gindar
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ohmy Fugod Edited by: Ohmy Fugod on 13/11/2006 23:18:35
Quote: do 2x tractor beams, MWD and nanos on a indie not loot fast enough for you?
I'm sure I'm missing something here.
A 10mn MWD I requires 150 grid to fit.
An Iteron MkV has 85 base grid + Engineering lvl 5 = 106.25 total grid. And 5 Lo Slots.
My Badger MkII has 80 grid + Eng 5 = 100 grid. And 3 Lo Slots.
+So how the hell do you fit a MWD *and* nanos when you have to go for so many fitting mods?
And even then, I just can't figure out a way of slapping one on a Badger II, not even with said fitting mods. With 3 x Reactor Control II there's no room for even 1 Tractor beam.
Anyway, I bet there *must* be a way, so please explain.
Ahh and btw, that's why I use an Osprey with 4 x Tractor Beams and 3 x Cargo Expanders in lo's... loots *way* faster than an Indy. Also, carrying capacity ain't much of a trouble excepting for big loot missions like the Extravaganzas.
kinda dumb but you can do this:
Iteron Mark V
Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Empty Slot Empty Slot Empty Slot Empty Slot
Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Empty Slot
1140 m/s 7200 m3
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Taipan Gedscho I cant stand it anymore. Looting Lvl4s is a pain. and yet, sometimes i have to do it. You dont want to go mining for minerals, now, do you?
Enough is enough! stand up with me, and shout, no SCREAM with me:
We want em bigger tractor beams! we want autoloot options for dem beams! and we wouldnt mind retriever drones, that loot them cans for us!
Power to the people! We are the people! and we loot our crap!
How about the loot just appears in your hangar.
Bigger beams? Sure. Autoloot? Uh, no. Loot gather drones? Not going to work too well since cans will be replaced by wrecks, and a tiny drone isnt going to drag a BS-sized wreck.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Ohmy Fugod
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:22:00 -
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Gotcha, well I guess it'd be about the Sigil then, 'cause unless you feel like hauling, I'd rather take another rank 4 skill to lvl 5 instead. :-)
And back to topic, ofc, better tractor beams ftw! \o/ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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Jaeuhl
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:25:00 -
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Perhaps after Kali they will just have a new skill set of ships that are dedicated looters that get a tractor beam range bonus.
Something with 4 hard points, a static 50% increased tractor beam range, and 10% per lvl of (whatever the new class of ship is called), and 2% increase speed of tractoring per lvl. I'd love to see those cans fly in at 750.
It can be part of ORE vs. some faction ship. Large cargo and even a small drone bay.
Give'm something else to buy, build, and skill up.
...all I ask is they design 2 totally different ships for it and not recycling old ships.
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Ohmy Fugod
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Ohmy Fugod on 13/11/2006 23:31:11
Originally by: Gindar
kinda dumb but you can do this:
Iteron Mark V
Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Empty Slot Empty Slot Empty Slot Empty Slot
Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Empty Slot
1140 m/s 7200 m3
Oh, yes, I knew the Iteron V could, just believe you can achieve a relatively high speed without the need of sacrificing so much for a MWD.
Tis the poor badger that won't make it hehe...
Oh and even with such a speed, agility on industrials is like... well... unexistant... Even a Badger MkII with 3 nanos takes eons to accelerate or turn. Well not exactly eons but you get the point :-)
And T2 indys, not my type... but you never know, right? :-) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:32:00 -
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im pleased to see a real discussion, fun and mockery and even some nice PSed pics.
and about the indie with 10mn mwd... id get a sigil with a mapc and some rcus.
but still... 2 beams is too little, so the exe is my looter of choice.
but right, yea, since kali will introduce salvaging, and most probable/hopefully a "scrapmetal collector" mini-profession (why the hell does it have to be "mini"?) i would love dedicated lootships.
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Scouty McScouter
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Posted - 2006.11.13 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron No more tractor beams!
Say Yes to TRACTOR SMARTBOMBS - Suck all those cans in!
WarATron for pres please. kthx My my my. Oops I just died again. What a good pie rat you are! |
Laughlyn Vaughns
Gallente Lagos-Vaughn Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.14 02:15:00 -
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trouble with itty V (which i use on vengence and infiltrated outposts cos of amount of loot 1400m3 ish) is that they can only lock 2 targets at a time and it takes a while to lock them. i also use an exq with (now) T2 expanders which has just tipped it over enuff so i can get all infil outpost (vengence has metal shards and stuff which i horde)
i would liek to see specific salvage/loot ships come in soon, i'm thinking a new model ship, Tech 1 but with a good amount of skilsl needed to fly liek the covetor. obviously Survey 5 would be in there and science or maybe even graviton pysics (as thats what traccys originally neeed)
5/6 hislots for traccys and salvage modules 3 mids for burner, repper and whatever 4 lowslots expanders, what else.
have it sumat liek 10% to cargo hold and 5% increase of chance of salvaging. base cargo of 1000m3 but seed the medium and large traccy beams too, that way it can fit mediums on it and get to work.
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Tricit
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.14 02:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tricit on 14/11/2006 03:04:14 Now I know they won't take my exact things to give me fame, but this is what is should be like. The named ones should be like 15mil/20mil/50mil. Tech II about 3 mil under the rare type because of the rare types convinence. And the other named ones should progress between 1mil-15mil and respectively and proportionately with each size upgrade like all other modules.
Small Tractor Beam I: 7PG 20CPU 20km 500m/s Small Allocator I: 7PG 19CPU 22km 625m/s Small Dumpster Beam I: 7PG 18CPU 22km 750m/s Small Intake Wave I: 7PG 17CPU 24km 875m/s Small Holding Beam I: 7PG 16CPU 24km 1,000m/s (most expensive)/(rare) Small Tractor Beam II: 11PG 24CPU 24km 1,000m/s
Medium Tractor Beam I: 50PG 35CPU 40km 1,000m/s Medium Allocator I: 50PG 33CPU 44km 1,250m/s Medium Dumpster Beam I: 50PG 31CPU 44km 1,500m/s Medium Intake Wave I: 50PG 29CPU 48km 1,750m/s Medium Holding Beam I: 50PG 27CPU 48km 2,000m/s Medium Tractor Beam II: 78PG 42CPU 48km 2,000m/s
Large Tractor Beam I: 360PG 60CPU 80km 2,000m/s Large Allocator I: 360PG 57CPU 88km 2,500m/s Large Dumpster Beam I: 360PG 53CPU 88km 3,000m/s Large Intake Wave I: 360PG 50CPU 92km 3,500m/s Large Holding Beam I: 360PG 47CPU 92km 4,000m/s Large Holding Beam II: 560PG 72CPU 92km 4,000m/s
Capital Holding Beam I: 68,000PG 140CPU 160km 16,000m/s Special Ability, can pull all anchorable objects that are unanchored
The Capital Holding Beam is meant to accomidate Titans with it's range, but can also be finely placed on a Titan.
To calculate the costs for the Capital Titan, I did Raven as my base.
Raven 9500 PG base Phoenix 450000 PG base, ratio is 47.37... Raven CPU is 700 base Phoenix CPU is 825 base, ratio is 1.179...
So I multiplied the large by 47.37 in PG and 1.179 in CPU and then by two, because the Dreads have roughly half the high slots of Battleships, then by two again for PG to remain fitable on the lower Capitals while actually feeling like it costs something on the Titan.
What do you think?
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Madcat Adams
Mission Runners Anonymous Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.14 03:52:00 -
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Then many good ideas here have already surpassed my musings on the matter, so I shall simply say I agree and completly support the expansion/improvement of the tractor beam family.
It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Aimez- "oh ****, this is empire......."
Thanks for the loot, and next time you go out to pirate, carry more tech 2 plz =) |
goodby4u
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Posted - 2006.11.14 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Tunahelper Would be nice if you could just stick on in the 8th slot of a raven and loot as you go, without the need to fly back in a dedicated looter. Though it all changes with salvage anyway.
why? tractor beams post kali work on wrecks only.
I agree bigger tractor beams!...
Why did i quote you?I just find it audri FISHER is argueing with TUNAhelper.
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.14 06:32:00 -
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Edited by: mazzilliu on 14/11/2006 06:33:01
Originally by: Gindar Edited by: Gindar on 13/11/2006 23:06:59
Originally by: Lord WarATron No more tractor beams!
i couldn't agree more.
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and, i want bigger tractor beams too. mines not big enough. maybe give us some upgrade or skill for natural tractor beam enhancement, or just a replacement please.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2006.11.14 06:44:00 -
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Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 14/11/2006 06:47:12 Edited for clarity /me signed
However, you can loot most of the good stuff in lvl 4s in one go (and quick) with an Exequror, fitted with 4 tractor beams and 3 cargo expanders. An MWD or AB plus some cap rechargers also help.
Note: The exequror has a 10% bonus to Cargo Capacity per level of the cruiser |
Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S Kurai Komichi
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Posted - 2006.11.14 07:47:00 -
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WTF - this is the sign of a real mission*****grinder. GET YOUR FAT A$$ RAVEN ON THE MOVE! or use a faster more agile ship! Use nanos! use MWD or AFTERBURNER!
What you really want is a "give me isk button" that you can click every 10 minutes for 10 million isk.
Soon you will be whining because you have to undock the station every now and then. Play the freakin game the way it was intended to. Just warpin in and stayin still at one spot spamming missiles left and right and then go back to dock and repeat all over and over and over again is NOT what this was supposed to be!
_ Killed my sig AGAIN! :p http://www.ninc.org/krubarax/images/2d/verydisco.jpg |
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Kery Nysell
Caldari Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.14 10:41:00 -
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Hmmm ...
I mainly use my Tractor Beams to grab the cans of ore during my corp's mining ops ... if post-Kali they only work on wrecks, that'll throw a spanner in the works ...
We can fill a jetcan in about 5 mins, our haulers need their Beams because our mining op moves in the belt, doing a new insta bookmark on the can every 5 mins is not practical ... so they "warp at 15 kms" to a member near a can, lock and pull it, empty it and then dock ... nice and efficient.
Is it confirmed that Tractor Beams won't work on jetissoned cans after Kali ?
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Mallakk
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Posted - 2006.11.14 10:52:00 -
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This game is WOWing... people are now too lazy to loot their loot themselves and will soon ask it delivered in the cargo hold of their ship directly...
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Outro
Caldari Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.14 11:28:00 -
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Quote: it delivered in the cargo hold of their ship directly...
You sir, are a genius!
**** END OF MESSAGE ****
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2006.11.14 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng WTF - this is the sign of a real mission*****grinder. GET YOUR FAT A$$ RAVEN ON THE MOVE! or use a faster more agile ship! Use nanos! use MWD or AFTERBURNER!
What you really want is a "give me isk button" that you can click every 10 minutes for 10 million isk.
Soon you will be whining because you have to undock the station every now and then. Play the freakin game the way it was intended to. Just warpin in and stayin still at one spot spamming missiles left and right and then go back to dock and repeat all over and over and over again is NOT what this was supposed to be!
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JustBlaze
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Posted - 2006.11.14 11:50:00 -
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GIMME SHIP TRACTOR BEAMS /me sucks in all teh lil ships and eats them
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.14 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mallakk This game is WOWing... people are now too lazy to loot their loot themselves and will soon ask it delivered in the cargo hold of their ship directly...
lol, if anything is wow like, then its looting as it is now.
click, click, click. click, click, click. and those clicks go without thinking about the task. remember that?
right.
THAT's wow.
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2006.11.14 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Taipan Gedscho so i think, im not asking for anything 1) that draws too much manpower from important tasks 2) creates an imbalance in combat
But have you considered whether it inbalances: 3) risk or work versus ISK gains
Are you also asking for income boost to missioners/NPCers? If not, making looting faster or less boring should also imply nerf on the value of typical can loot (which would hurt those who've managed to organize their looting better than others). Or if you do want such boost, should try to argument why it is warranted.
-Lasse
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.14 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/11/2006 13:23:17 i dont care if the loot gets less valuable. have you ever looted a mission? i dont know, but all i get is crap.
but still, sometimes i want some mins to build stuff.
most mission runners.. well... run from mission to mission without looting. for lp, for bounties and the reward. and in the long run, they make MORE isk than those mission *****s, that actually loot.
im sure you know that.
so, ALL it would do, is bring the runners and looters more in line. but PLEASE, for ****s sake, can we NOT turn this thread into another balance discussion?
if you want bigger beams, shout with me. if you want to discuss balance... well... nobody can help you anyway.
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Mallakk
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Taipan Gedscho lol, if anything is wow like, then its looting as it is now.
click, click, click. click, click, click. and those clicks go without thinking about the task. remember that?
right.
THAT's wow.
What is lame is being too lazy to loot your own mission and whinning on the board for a way to do nothing.
Whatever you pvp, mission or mine, its a game, the goal can only be reach, and is only interesting, if you spend a few time trying to reach it, not if the devs put your reward directly in your mouth.
Lazy people already ruined most game like UO, EQ, FFXI and many other, no need to do it with Eve, there is plenty of space for lazy people already.
It take too long to mission.. too long to travel, too long to mine... god, change game and go make thing faster, perhaps some people like when things takes time. My wife does, and i do my best to ! How's your ?
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/11/2006 15:09:35 right... and if we would be getting (the already coded) bigger beams, or dedicated lootships with beamrange bonus... YOU, of course, would still be using the old methods, because the new ones are too easy... sure. ill believe that right away.
im not asking for anything that would make eve less interesting. and if you would start to think about it, you could see that.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mallakk
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
It take too long to mission.. too long to travel, too long to mine... god, change game and go make thing faster, perhaps some people like when things takes time. My wife does, and i do my best to ! How's your ?
Ehm.. r u really trying to make a comparison between boring ingame events and... nevermind :S I won't even comment on this. :| |
Slevin Kalebra
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:18:00 -
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I'd like to see larger tractor beams. As well as different ranges, the mass of the container / wreck being towed should affect the speed at which the tractor can tow it. Also using a large tractor on a fragile object could cause the towed container to be torn apart by the stress if it takes too long - That would be pretty simple to implement: containers already have hit points, just apply a slight hit point degradation to the container per tractor cycle... container reaches zero before you loot it... boom no loot.
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Mallakk
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:24:00 -
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There nothing boring in... looting. I like to loot, especially going to the can of the battleship, sometimes there is a surprise inside, sometimes there is only carp... my only regret is there is not 0.0001 chance for a bpc drop that would make the action wayyyy more amazing than it is.
Its not because you think its boring than most of the player think so. Lazyness isn't a rule.
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Paigan
Amarr Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:28:00 -
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I already shouted for the same thing in the kali forum. Noone cared. Not even the players...
There are already medium any heavy TBs in the game, but not seeded yet.
Not only uncomfortable, but even pretty mean and intentionally customer-annoying from CCP, if you ask me.
Even World of Borecraft provides more comfortable looting.
ITS IN THE GAME. SEED IT!!!! -- This game is still in beta stage |
Carnye Dubro
Caldari Shock and Awe
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Posted - 2006.11.14 17:16:00 -
[45]
I use a Prophecy with seven tractors fitted, an ABII and spilt lows between nanos and cargo expanders... works like a charm. (you could fit a MWD to it... but would have to complete the mission before you could use it...)
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 15/11/2006 00:11:33
Originally by: Carnye Dubro I use a Prophecy with seven tractors fitted, an ABII and spilt lows between nanos and cargo expanders... works like a charm. (you could fit a MWD to it... but would have to complete the mission before you could use it...)
how bigs the hold on that? i bet not enough...
i was thinking of getting an extra battleship, just so i can fit more beams to it. but after adding enough expanders, so its actually a little useful...it just wont really move anymore...
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Kaathar Rielspar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:15:00 -
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if it hasn't already been said (didn't read thread):
pffft
be glad you've got a small beam, back in the day it was all manual labor flying to each can, you kids got it easy these days ____________________
Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe
Originally by: Eximius Josari If BS Sized HACs would be overpowered, what are HACs?
Overpriced Nos victims.
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kaathar Rielspar be glad you've got a small beam, back in the day it was all manual labor flying to each can, you kids got it easy these days
yeah, sure. when i was a kid we had to walk three hours through 2 metre deep snow just to get to the coal mine, where we worked 28 hours a day for 5 cents.
we had no toothbrushes, no, only rusty barbwire.
and did we complain?
no! we were happy about the things we got!
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Riddick06
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Posted - 2006.11.15 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng WTF - this is the sign of a real mission*****grinder. GET YOUR FAT A$$ RAVEN ON THE MOVE! or use a faster more agile ship! Use nanos! use MWD or AFTERBURNER!
What you really want is a "give me isk button" that you can click every 10 minutes for 10 million isk.
Soon you will be whining because you have to undock the station every now and then. Play the freakin game the way it was intended to. Just warpin in and stayin still at one spot spamming missiles left and right and then go back to dock and repeat all over and over and over again is NOT what this was supposed to be!
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Sandra you are not adding anything positive to the conversation can you please edit your post with these...
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.17 00:33:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Sandra Tseng WTF - this is the sign of a real mission*****grinder. GET YOUR FAT A$$ RAVEN ON THE MOVE! or use a faster more agile ship! Use nanos! use MWD or AFTERBURNER!
What you really want is a "give me isk button" that you can click every 10 minutes for 10 million isk.
Soon you will be whining because you have to undock the station every now and then. Play the freakin game the way it was intended to. Just warpin in and stayin still at one spot spamming missiles left and right and then go back to dock and repeat all over and over and over again is NOT what this was supposed to be!
oh lol, yeah sure. fyi, i use a domi. i just warpin and after i got the aggro on my faction tank, i only have to release my drones!
spammin missiles is so... eighties...
and another lol. dont ya think i got a lootship with mwd? hm?
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