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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:08:56 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:... Rancer was pretty famous. Take your word for it.
Only one I remember from High Sec is Vimsy because they post on the forums and they piled two alliances onto a newbie corp that just wanted some good fights to learn PVP.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Heathyy
Immortalis Fratres Vacui
Legio immortales CXCI
2
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:15:28 -
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well its pretty simple really, pve makes money, pvp loses money, when you have enough money you pvp, when you don't you pve.
ppl like making money over losing it. mystery solved. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3428
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:11:01 -
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No one who dislikes grinding for ISK need do so. Work an extra hour in the real world, buy a PLEX, issue solved. Even driving slower on the freeway makes ISK at around 300 mil per hour. (That is, drive slower, spend more time getting there, save gas money. Use saved money to buy PLEX. You get 300 million ISK for every extra hour you spend on the freeway.)
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Frozen fanfiction
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Yuri Ostrovsky
Snake River Jump Squad
0
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:05:58 -
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Ozymandias Hamalia wrote:Has no one mentioned that if there were no PVE, you would sit in station all day without a ship to fly? Or guns to fire or ammo or
mods, or missiles or propulsion mods or......I mean.....uhm.....
Best point on the forums all day right here. |
Whipple Shai
Control-Space
5
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:45:25 -
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Just for the S&G of it, I'll give you a serious answer.
I don't PVP because I have a TBI that makes it impossible for me to respond to the rapid flow of information and make rapid decisions that are necessary. Even following the FC's orders places my side in jeopardy as it takes me up to 10 seconds to respond to orders. Don't even try and tell me anything more than "jump and hold cloak" because it simply won't be understood enough to remember.
Now, I quit PVE'ing after my first six months or so playing when I decided to move to null sec, once I thought I found a corp that understood my limitations. That didn't work out so well and I'm not going to do drama to explain why. Back to empire for another six months until I finally found a corp made up of mostly veterans who clearly understood.
Now, not being able to PVP didn't mean I didn't want the thrill. All this time I was working on my reflexes and muscle memory while mining. For a little over two years I lived in null being the main provider of minerals for our corp, and I seldom lost a ship, and I have multiple accounts and I make a crud ton of ISK. The thrill for me is living in an area long enough to learn the frequent neuts, what they fly, what predictable path they use through the systems and then avoid them. Top that off with having to be ready to squad warp my guys at a seconds notice if a neut is missed by intel or comes through a WH, or there was a log off in system that we didnt get informed about and, for me, that's FUN.
That corp has folded and I was very fortunate to find this one. We're giving WH life a try while this fozzysov BS gets worked out and I'm having to adapt my playstyle to a lack of local. I'll either learn and adapt or I won't be able to be part of he team. If it turns out I'm a liability after much trying to not get 'sploded then I'll make a decission how to procede from there.
It's not that I like being prey, that's why I seldom get blown up. But I hate pve because it doesn't give me a "rush". Keeping my miners from being content does. Managing cycles while dealing with rats while watching for neuts? Big freeking rush - for my sandbox.
Did that answer your question?
Whipple |
Vortexo VonBrenner
kaldasti sjo sigla
1882
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Posted - 2015.05.26 03:09:33 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.
Keep? It's not scientific nor a study in first place.
I need to check out Hello Kitty Island Adventure. It must be a good game as people in EvE tell me all the time that I should be playing it.
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45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
151
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Posted - 2015.05.26 04:44:58 -
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Kiandoshia wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:I'd say it's this one:
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?
There is a chess game and mathematical analysis involved in PVE. Especially solo. Don't let PVP bigger-upper 'leet noobs tell you any different. Doesnt. Www.eve-survival.com or whatever tell you eexactly what to do when tho? That site is down ^^ If the question you are asking is "Why doesn't everyone go out and find the peeveepee?", I can answer, at least for myself, I find the majority of it boring. Sure, the 3 minutes of shooting each other is fun but the 2, 3, 4 and 5 hours before that tend to be pretty ******* boring. There are better games out there if you want to shoot at each other and there is more to Eve than shooting each other (or waiting for an opportunity to do so) thankfully. Also, I probably should post this with a different character because now everyone is going to go raa raa scrub, 0.0, carebear F1 monkey shithead raa raa but the way you worded this topic, it seems like you might be reasonable with someone's honest response ^^
When I go out and do peeveepee I *facepalm* my keyboard when I fall asleep.
Darn imprint of my keyboard on my fored ouch  
**You Have to take the good with the bad
and the bad with the good.
Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**
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Moth Eisig
89
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:18:40 -
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PvE partly for the puzzle of optimization, partly for the influx of space money, partly for the more relaxed atmosphere . . .
but mostly for the tears of those who insist I'm playing their precious game wrong. |
Yuri Ostrovsky
Snake River Jump Squad
0
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Posted - 2015.05.26 23:15:28 -
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Moth Eisig wrote:PvE partly for the puzzle of optimization, partly for the influx of space money, partly for the more relaxed atmosphere . . .
but mostly for the tears of those who insist I'm playing their precious game wrong.
And how those tears are sooo tasty to lol
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1593
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Posted - 2015.05.27 05:06:07 -
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Moth Eisig wrote:... tears of those who insist I'm playing their precious game wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTm3GQg51JU
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
955
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Posted - 2015.05.27 12:23:01 -
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Play for free.
Not today spaghetti.
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
383
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:05:23 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:Play for free.
Time is money.
Time is more important than money.
If you pve for any amount of time to "play for free" you could be actually playing the video game and doing fun stuff during that time.
A billion isk costs 17.99. How long does it take you to earn 17.99 at your job? Prpb less than it takes to earn a billion in game BRO |
Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium.
CODE.
6723
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:16:47 -
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OP
Look up the Bartle Test. It is the ONLY psychological exam that applies to gamers and gaming, and it will give you the answers you're looking for.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
157
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:56:23 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Okay i dont wanna get in trouble and have this thread abused and turned into offtopic stuff. Please answer reasonabley.
So i havent seen this debate happen on the forums. I tried googling and using the eve search but cant find this thread/topic.
So..
What makes people want to pve?
Is it the "victory against bad guys" appeal?
Is it the "i want to 'finish' the game/beat the game" idea?
Is it the content? Like that its fun?
Is it the commradie of taking down the "boss"?
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?
Any other psychological reasons you can think of?
Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.
None of the above, i PvE to pay the bills, ships don't grow on trees :P |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
12073
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Posted - 2015.08.04 10:34:40 -
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For Science!
I'm in it for the money
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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Ortilus Orsides
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:31:24 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:I am very reasonable.
I am a scientist.
I dont understand jive at my killboard? 2.1b kills to under 40mill in losses? Thats pretty elite.
I dont get it. Saying im not very active? That has been true i havent been of any of my badass pvpers lately due to summer school and work and my sexy girlfriend and some other important things. I was way more active few months ago, shall be again soon.
Keep up the good experimentation guys, i am proud
Your Girlffriend, is she a redhead. Redheads are the best xD.
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Escobar Sr
THE THIRTEEN SAMURAI
0
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Posted - 2015.08.04 15:15:04 -
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The reasons I PvE more than PvP is as following:
- Solo PvP barely exists - always gate camps, always small gangs, always baits
- In small gangs, you don't know what people bring to the table, in terms of computer/internet connection. A "Socket Closed" error can kill a small gang; game lag due to poor computer
- Time zones - my friends do PvP when I'm at work and vice versa
- Comms - I can't multitask between my wife and game
- PLEX - as long as you're allowed to work and buy game time, I prefer spending 20 bucks treating my friends with pizza
- I "dislike" the Combat exploration (sometimes) when it comes to people who believe when they find someone in a site = competition or they are allowed to steal - Karma strikes instant sometimes
- ISK - PvP, at one point, will make you lose your ship, implants => without ISK to replace the ship loss + the Implants => No PvP
- Modules/Implants - I'm still a new player - Skill points gain is important for me => I cannot bring +5s in PvP or Deadspace modules - unless I have the ISK to not care if I lose them - which brings us to the point above
- Some of the terms people use in Gangs I might not understand => people yelling at me for being a noob => frustration => I will dislike doing fleet PvP => since there is no solo => no PvP at all
- PvE has no obligations like PvP - If I wanna do a site or don't, depends on me => people might call you names if you bail a fleet (and we all know the repertoire)
And reasons can be a lot, but primaries are:
1. ISK
2. People
3. Specific Limitations
I don't judge people who gate camp, if that's what's making them happy, so be it. If something makes you happy, you should keep doing it. Don't try to understand concepts like "why people PvE more than PvP?" or "Why do females act like they do?" etc
Play the game as you like, as you enjoy! |
Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
452
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Posted - 2015.08.04 15:21:37 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:OP
Look up the Bartle Test. It is the ONLY psychological exam that applies to gamers and gaming, and it will give you the answers you're looking for.
Achievers: Whether it's the isk destroyed value on their killboards or their in-game wallet - a lot of people play just to watch little numbers slowly increase.
Killers: Some enjoy the challenging of themselves against others. Both in what's loosely termed pve: market wars/LP exchange rates/avoiding other players in hostile space - as well as more direct forms of pvp.
Explorers: Flit around from one in-game profession to the next, learning all the mechanics in the game and how they interact with each other out of curiousity.
Socialisers: Enjoy the graphics in this IRC program.
but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
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Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium.
CODE.
6740
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Posted - 2015.08.04 15:25:24 -
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Eli Apol wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:OP
Look up the Bartle Test. It is the ONLY psychological exam that applies to gamers and gaming, and it will give you the answers you're looking for. Achievers: Whether it's the isk destroyed value on their killboards or their in-game wallet - a lot of people play just to watch little numbers slowly increase. Killers: Some enjoy the challenging of themselves against others. Both in what's loosely termed pve: market wars/LP exchange rates/avoiding other players in hostile space - as well as more direct forms of pvp. Explorers: Flit around from one in-game profession to the next, learning all the mechanics in the game and how they interact with each other out of curiousity. Socialisers: Enjoy the graphics in this IRC program.
lol, that's actually quite fitting for satire, well done, gave me a giggle.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Commander Spurty
Dimension Door
We need wards.
1535
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Posted - 2015.08.04 15:36:38 -
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OP, please note the distinct lack of '+1s' to your original post.
The population here tires greatly of these threads.
What you want to do is question those of you out in NULL as to why you aren't all fighting eachother?
Why would you even entertain politics when you have the warmachine to use without CONCORD getting in the way?
This is a far less explored question and one that has greater implications as to 'what the real problem is'.
If you live in non-NPC space, there is no CONCORD.
There are good ships
And wood ships
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are
Spaceships
Built by CCP
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Spurty
Dimension Door
We need wards.
1537
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Posted - 2015.08.04 15:36:38 -
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OP, please note the distinct lack of '+1s' to your original post.
The population here tires greatly of these threads.
What you want to do is question those of you out in NULL as to why you aren't all fighting eachother?
Why would you even entertain politics when you have the warmachine to use without CONCORD getting in the way?
This is a far less explored question and one that has greater implications as to 'what the real problem is'.
If you live in non-NPC space, there is no CONCORD.
There are good ships
And wood ships
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are
Spaceships
Built by CCP
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ISD FlowingSpice
ISD STAR
17
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Posted - 2015.08.04 16:45:25 -
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Deleted some posts violating rules 2 and 4.
Play nice. |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
2071
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Posted - 2015.08.04 20:07:19 -
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flakeys wrote:...I know for a lot of people it is hard to acknowledge other people's enjoyment can be in complete contrast with their own.
My friends playstyle is in contrast with my own , but i never tried to pull them to my way of playing because i do understand that what is fun for one person is pure missery for the other.
+1
ITT: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
250
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Posted - 2015.08.05 11:12:39 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:I am very reasonable.
I am a scientist.
I dont understand jive at my killboard? 2.1b kills to under 40mill in losses? Thats pretty elite.
I dont get it. Saying im not very active? That has been true i havent been of any of my badass pvpers lately due to summer school and work and my sexy girlfriend and some other important things. I was way more active few months ago, shall be again soon.
Keep up the good experimentation guys, i am proud
a scientist in summer school? sounds legit. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
49
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Posted - 2015.08.05 11:27:17 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Okay i dont wanna get in trouble and have this thread abused and turned into offtopic stuff. Please answer reasonabley.
So i havent seen this debate happen on the forums. I tried googling and using the eve search but cant find this thread/topic.
So..
What makes people want to pve?
Is it the "victory against bad guys" appeal?
Is it the "i want to 'finish' the game/beat the game" idea?
Is it the content? Like that its fun?
Is it the commradie of taking down the "boss"?
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?
Any other psychological reasons you can think of?
Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.
The reason is simple: ISK/resources for PvP and/or PLEX
Since most PvE in EVE is boring as f***, i doubt that there are many other reasons.
In other games i like PvE because of the story and/or the challenge. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
That Escalated Quickly.
1620
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Posted - 2015.08.05 11:29:28 -
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I just like to win.
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Robertis Olacar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2015.08.05 11:31:41 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Okay i dont wanna get in trouble and have this thread abused and turned into offtopic stuff. Please answer reasonabley.
So i havent seen this debate happen on the forums. I tried googling and using the eve search but cant find this thread/topic.
So..
What makes people want to pve?
Is it the "victory against bad guys" appeal?
Is it the "i want to 'finish' the game/beat the game" idea?
Is it the content? Like that its fun?
Is it the commradie of taking down the "boss"?
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?
Any other psychological reasons you can think of?
Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.
I only do pve for a number of reason:
Life is stressful and I find exploring in Eve relaxing just the process of following the routine.
I don't have the dexterity in my hands to be able to effectively PvP. as in being able to hit keyboard short cuts and all that.
Having said that I enjoy the threat of PvP when I explore, which is way I now mainly do my exploration out side hi sec.
The Threat add's to the immersive feel in the game.
Even tho I can't PvP ( or can't effectively PvP ) for real reasons I don't think the game would be as fun if it weren't a constant threat.
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
402
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Posted - 2015.08.05 12:06:10 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Okay i dont wanna get in trouble and have this thread abused and turned into offtopic stuff. Please answer reasonabley.
So i havent seen this debate happen on the forums. I tried googling and using the eve search but cant find this thread/topic.
So..
What makes people want to pve?
Is it the "victory against bad guys" appeal?
Is it the "i want to 'finish' the game/beat the game" idea?
Is it the content? Like that its fun?
Is it the commradie of taking down the "boss"?
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?
Any other psychological reasons you can think of?
Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.
My personal opinions:
-Probably they just want to play the game. PVE and PVP means playing a game, which we do.
-That can't be, since it would be a reason for both PVE and PVP. The other is always the bad guy, after all.
-Probably not.
-Obviously, contrary to many jokes there aren't enough masochists to keep EVE alive otherwise.
-What boss? Do you mean drifters? Sure yes, in group oriented content this probably takes a major role. Otherwise nope.
-This again is a reason for both PVE and PVP.
Uh maybe you should rework your questions if you want this to be "scientific". Half your questions are relevant for both PVE and PVP, you should clean that up if you want your "study" to aim at PVE exclusively. And you don't differentiate between group and solo content, which makes you sound like you don't even know much about PVE except that it exists. Not really a promising sign for your "scientific" study.
Good luck though. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2015.08.05 12:07:45 -
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Probably because it's a more relaxing style of play. |
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