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Aseoph
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Posted - 2006.11.14 18:13:00 -
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Ok, so I've been doing L4 missions for quite some time now, have worked myself into a mostly t2 setup minus the launchers on my raven, which I use Arbies Cruise. So I get through Vengeance, have to warp out a few times (I can't wait for the faction XL booster!) and then I get to the end. I go up against a named rat called Rachen Mysuna.
Ok, seriously this rat (besides not letting you any closer than 50km) tanks everything! I even warped out, refit my ship with 6X siege launchers and I couldn't even break her tank. I get about half down on her shields and then i have to reload my launchers, and that provides her with time to recharge her shields fully! I had to beg in local (because my corp is far away) for help, and it took 2 Ravens to take this $#^#@ down! What the hell happened here?
I remember having done this mission solo before and taking her out, but I don't remember ever meeting a mission inwhich I had to have someone's assistance!
I asked around and I'm not the only one that has experienced this. What's up CCP? Have you made the named rats so dang hard that you require either t2 cruise/torp to take them out? Ridiculous!
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Harotak
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Posted - 2006.11.14 18:22:00 -
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kill everything else and then warp out to refit for siege + afterburner. you need to close the distance so the defender missiles dont shoot your torps down and also so you can deploy drones.
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Presidente Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.14 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 14/11/2006 18:31:15
What Vengeance? It must be Angel you are talking about!
I did Vengeance Serpentis solo the second time in my Brutix. Actually t2 fitted.
The first dusty stage was a bit scary but I could tank them all.
My tactics are always +run away, keep distance½ if webbers let me do.
For taking down BS I switch to close combat using my 90% webber and t2 drones.
Actually I have also Spike and Javelin ammo for critical situations in my cargo.
Jevelin I use very rare due bad speed and shield penalty. Loading all rails with Javelin is like beeing 90% webbed.
Last night I tried Angel Ex 4 solo ... it's possible but I joined a 5 BS pilot gang after entering the 4th stage because it took too long in a BC. We did some missions after that. Angel Ex 4 under 15 minutes. Nice fast stampede! :-)
Fly strong skilled and well fitted!
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.11.14 18:47:00 -
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Rachen CAN be killed with an ordinary cruise Raven...but you need to close him down...if you can get wihtin 20km of him, he doesn't kill enough of your cruise with his defenders.
Siege works ok...but you have to get within about 10km of him to disable his defenders, because of their slower speed.
Fit three BCU II's in lows if you can...that will help with your damage.
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Bracken
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Nocturnal Ascendancy
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Posted - 2006.11.14 18:49:00 -
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I did this mission last night, the guristas one and this bs tanks like hell but i beat its tank in a dominix with t1 wasps and 4 425mm rails. Didnt take too long either.
Havnt tried it with any other ship.
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dabster
Minmatar
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.14 20:35:00 -
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Rachen is the reason i dont bother with doing Vengeance at all, you know that you can turn down a mission every 4 hours with standings loss i hope..
But if you really want to bother, range is the key as already been said. He doesnt only have a tank from hell, he is also a massive abuser of defenders. So get closer, and dont forget to use drones for a little extra dps.
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Posted - 2006.11.14 21:07:00 -
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hey hey
theres a few rats that can be an arse to kill. I had the same effect with Hooborak Moon recently.
look up the NPC tank via elfarto and exploit his every weakness. (nos will help too)
mainly cause i refuse to give up and refuse to use a sleipnir i managed to ***** him (hooborak moon) with Quake M and Fury Havoc's. i normally keep 500 Quake M in my hold for him and generally he popps quickly and uses about 1 reload. I'd recommend doing the same with your NPC. Exploit his weakness to maximum effect (includes ammo swapping for shield/armor) and you should have no trouble.
Rogue Drone parasite COSMOS NPC - hard but nice tank
Kael Nutan - COSMOS NPC - Took Quake + Cerberus ( Tempest + Quake iirc solo)
Bazeri Palen - COSMOS NPC - Takes Quake Solo (claymore)
Mammoth - Pants - Takes Titanium to break though
Hooborak Moon - Quake M in a Claymore Fusion only in a tempest.
Cant say much for Faction NPC's and recently in the storyline Covering your tracks i had the Faction dude \o/ but seriously never give up and you'l find experience wil win out after you find that first pop.
I think that CCP and Dev's Calculate NP tanks etc. using higher end numbers and when they run their "graphs" those with higher end skills should have no trouble and those with low end will struggle.
Im Quite surprised to hear a Raven struggle at anything so while i rofl for a minute . . . I think Named NPC's Should be harder and Low SP and low fitted ships shouldnt be able to solopwnmobile stuFF.
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Oerar
Endless Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.14 21:14:00 -
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had that mission last night. Ended up dragging a corpmate in with me to help with Rachen, and that worked wonders. |
Orion Shurtak
Amarr
Free Player Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:32:00 -
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I had the Blood Raider and Sansha versions of that mission. yes, it's tough to bring down the main dude, but not impossible. I solo that one whenever I get it. I use all EMP cruise missiles for the versions I have had. I use 6x Cruise launcher II's. ROF for me is 8.31 sec so that is fast enough to kill him before he can repair the damage I do.
Just increase your ROF if possible or close the distance. It' s waist of time using torps as they are too slow and you load too often.
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Fondas
FW Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:01:00 -
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The most scaring think in the last room is the Tower sentries ! After dealing with those, my friend Rachen was a piece of cake ! ;)
How I did it you ask ? here it goes :)
I fly a T1 fitted Domi. Although I have no problem sending my drones to the 50km range, to meet rachen, 5 Wasps could not even bend his tank. So I though the only way with my skills , to fight him is with blasters. Blasters are close range , so I had to find a way to close on him. Then it hit me ;)
Heavy Web drones !
They kept him still while I closed in with my AB, in 10k I activated my onboard web, recalled the web drones and released the Wasps. Then I opened fire with my blasters, while I had and a Magfield fitted, just to speed things up.
Rachen went down pretty fast ! :)
The same tactic should work for a single raven too. AFAIK, Raven Pilots' problem is the defenders Rachen spams which effectively cuts down their DPS. The only way to avoid those defenders is to get really close(1-2k) and then fire away.
According to my calculations you need to dish out approximately 180 kinetic DPS (not raw) to start breaking his tank
Note that I had to specifically refit to fight Rachen Mysuna.
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Hustle Fighter
Caldari
Galaxy Financial
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:03:00 -
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Originally i had this same problem, but i've noticed it was solved with t2 seige launchers, due to refire and amount of torps they hold(20). Easily broke the ship into a million pieces in 2 full reloads. 1st full set of torps took it half into armor, 2nd blasted the regen'd shields and the rest of the armor/structure.
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Teh Supah
AWE Corporation
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Teh Supah on 15/11/2006 00:34:35
put drone link aug in high
t2 hammerheads + t1 cruises with some decent skills do the job
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Aseoph
Ok, so I've been doing L4 missions for quite some time now, have worked myself into a mostly t2 setup minus the launchers on my raven, which I use Arbies Cruise. So I get through Vengeance, have to warp out a few times (I can't wait for the faction XL booster!) and then I get to the end. I go up against a named rat called Rachen Mysuna.
Ok, seriously this rat (besides not letting you any closer than 50km) tanks everything! I even warped out, refit my ship with 6X siege launchers and I couldn't even break her tank. I get about half down on her shields and then i have to reload my launchers, and that provides her with time to recharge her shields fully! I had to beg in local (because my corp is far away) for help, and it took 2 Ravens to take this $#^#@ down! What the hell happened here?
I remember having done this mission solo before and taking her out, but I don't remember ever meeting a mission inwhich I had to have someone's assistance!
I asked around and I'm not the only one that has experienced this. What's up CCP? Have you made the named rats so dang hard that you require either t2 cruise/torp to take them out? Ridiculous!
havent tried tkaing a corp mate or buddy along i assume its doable with 2 BS - good luck tho as it probably isnt soloable
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Areconus
Caldari
Cereal Killerz
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.11.15 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Fondas
The most scaring think in the last room is the Tower sentries ! After dealing with those, my friend Rachen was a piece of cake ! ;)
How I did it you ask ? here it goes :)
I fly a T1 fitted Domi. Although I have no problem sending my drones to the 50km range, to meet rachen, 5 Wasps could not even bend his tank. So I though the only way with my skills , to fight him is with blasters. Blasters are close range , so I had to find a way to close on him. Then it hit me ;)
Heavy Web drones !
They kept him still while I closed in with my AB, in 10k I activated my onboard web, recalled the web drones and released the Wasps. Then I opened fire with my blasters, while I had and a Magfield fitted, just to speed things up.
Rachen went down pretty fast ! :)
The same tactic should work for a single raven too. AFAIK, Raven Pilots' problem is the defenders Rachen spams which effectively cuts down their DPS. The only way to avoid those defenders is to get really close(1-2k) and then fire away.
According to my calculations you need to dish out approximately 180 kinetic DPS (not raw) to start breaking his tank
Note that I had to specifically refit to fight Rachen Mysuna.
Hope that helps ;)
Wow, nice tactic!
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Pakalolo
Tha Shiznit
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Posted - 2006.11.15 02:01:00 -
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6 x t2 cruise launchers + t1 devastators
5 x valkyrie II
Hborak Moon dead in no time.
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Zorthal Darendal
Gallente
Templars of Space
CORE.
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Posted - 2006.11.15 06:03:00 -
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Gimme an Ishtar and T2 wasps, orbit at 5km, double nos...the rest is history 
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.11.15 07:04:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 15/11/2006 07:04:55
T2 Sieges with Juggernaut Jav torps, 5 VespaIIs, and Rachen goes down in I think ~8 volleys. Such a shame Kali will stop that 
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.11.15 08:48:00 -
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Ordinary raven
6x arby siege, 2x heavy nos
3x hardeners, booster, boost amp, AB
3x bcu ii 2x pdu ii
all t2 except the launchers, killed him within a minute. needed a refit after tanking EM for the sentries though.
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Dragon Lord
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Dragon Lord on 15/11/2006 11:36:19
Edited by: Dragon Lord on 15/11/2006 11:36:06
hey that named bs is hard, like everyone else says get in close with ab and cruise or seige us drones and it will go down, also i u have a nice navy raven it goes down from 50kms :)
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Shinshi Casoyako
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Ordinary raven
6x arby siege, 2x heavy nos
3x hardeners, booster, boost amp, AB
3x bcu ii 2x pdu ii
all t2 except the launchers, killed him within a minute. needed a refit after tanking EM for the sentries though.
QFT, though I now can do it with cruiser T2 and no AB.
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Herrscher der Zeit
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:50:00 -
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using a ab and heavy drones does the job well:) anyway with ok missile skills i easyly can gank her without ab/drones and regular t1 missiles in a regular raven without reloading (rof of arround 7 sec on my cml II's)
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Peter Stuyvesant
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.11.15 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
havent tried tkaing a corp mate or buddy along i assume its doable with 2 BS - good luck tho as it probably isnt soloable
What? Despite the fact that about 20 people posted above you that they solo it?
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Esab
Caldari
United Divided
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
havent tried tkaing a corp mate or buddy along i assume its doable with 2 BS - good luck tho as it probably isnt soloable
Post with your main ffs
Read the thread before posting is also a good thing to do before commenting on something you obviously know f all about.
Rachen Mysuna can be killed solo...in a tech 1 fitted Raven and without drones....I know..I have done it multiple times
I wish more missions were like this where you had to 'think' and 'work' at it instead of warp in...kill everything..warp out...rinse repeat.
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Doxs Roxs
White Wolves Defence league
The OSS
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: Doxs Roxs on 15/11/2006 15:18:01
Id say most Raven pilots should be able to solo this one.
Just make sure that you bring a web drone or two in bay for this specific mission.
If you got enough drone skills reaching 50Km with drones should not be impossible and once he is webbed you close in and finish him off since he cannot spam defenders.
If you lack the skills to reach 50Km with drones you can use one of your utility highslots to fit a drone link augmentor, that way you can be sure to reach him.
It might be silly, but you could also just fit an afterburner as has already been suggested 
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Stylom
Gallente
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Fondas
The most scaring think in the last room is the Tower sentries ! After dealing with those, my friend Rachen was a piece of cake ! ;)
How I did it you ask ? here it goes :)
I fly a T1 fitted Domi. Although I have no problem sending my drones to the 50km range, to meet rachen, 5 Wasps could not even bend his tank. So I though the only way with my skills , to fight him is with blasters. Blasters are close range , so I had to find a way to close on him. Then it hit me ;)
Heavy Web drones !
They kept him still while I closed in with my AB, in 10k I activated my onboard web, recalled the web drones and released the Wasps. Then I opened fire with my blasters, while I had and a Magfield fitted, just to speed things up.
Rachen went down pretty fast ! :)
The same tactic should work for a single raven too. AFAIK, Raven Pilots' problem is the defenders Rachen spams which effectively cuts down their DPS. The only way to avoid those defenders is to get really close(1-2k) and then fire away.
According to my calculations you need to dish out approximately 180 kinetic DPS (not raw) to start breaking his tank
Note that I had to specifically refit to fight Rachen Mysuna.
Hope that helps ;)
Nice technique - you'll have me trying that on everything now and running a blaster set-up permentatly
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Fliewatuet
Angelus dos Business
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
havent tried tkaing a corp mate or buddy along i assume its doable with 2 BS - good luck tho as it probably isnt soloable
Just because you don't run a lot of missions and were not able to adopt to a challenge in it doesn't mean that others can't do that. In fact, i'm one of those who solo that mission as often as it pops up. Its a nice mission, don't take quite so long as a Guristas Extra but isn't as booring as a Duo of Death. :) And half of the time, Rachen Mysuna even drops something nice.
Oh, despite most others, i'm flying a Mega with 425mm Railguns to fly missions. Guess thats a nice change to all those Raven Missioneers. :)
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Caldari
CAS Technologies and Logistics
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:29:00 -
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Another idea is to fit a Drone Link Augmentor hence increasing your drone range by 20km which I find tends to help somewhat....
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Peter Stuyvesant
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Fliewatuet
Originally by: Miss Overlord
havent tried tkaing a corp mate or buddy along i assume its doable with 2 BS - good luck tho as it probably isnt soloable
Just because you don't run a lot of missions and were not able to adopt to a challenge in it doesn't mean that others can't do that.
tbh, he just hits reply on every thread and types the first thing that comes into his mind. WTB forum 'block' feature.
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Ulric Denrai
Amarr
Ascent of Ages
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:00:00 -
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I first kill the sentries ,my drones are killing some friggs.
Then i kill that other BS .
Then i`m gona bumb the Boss bs ,will take some time but he goes pop.
High : 4 1200mm 4 cruise
Med : AB .tracking comp , 3 caprechargers
Low : 5 hardeners ,med and large rep.
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Chupie Rupie
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:49:00 -
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Just warp out when he is the only guy left, then come back and get really close to him before locking on and opening fire. He wont aggro until you get to about 20km, then you are already well within NOS range and drone range and can easily take him down with a cruise fitted raven.
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Pakalolo
Tha Shiznit
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Posted - 2006.11.15 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Esab
I wish more missions were like this where you had to 'think' and 'work' at it instead of warp in...kill everything..warp out...rinse repeat.
me too. have been doing Cosmos missions for just this reason.
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Vexed
Amarr Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2006.11.15 20:27:00 -
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I have got hardly any missile skills but owned Rachen Mysuna in a Raven with Caldari Battleship level 3 just by refitting 6 siege and using Kinetic Torps and using an afterburner to close the distance as everyone is saying he spams defenders.
If I could do 90% of Caldari Navy missions in a Raven with next to no skill points in the relevant areas I'm pretty sure most others could too.
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Wraitheh
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Posted - 2006.11.15 22:18:00 -
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Easily doable solo as many have stated - simply get close if using missiles/torps and his defenders are useless. Some people say nos reduces his boost frequency but haven't seen any noticable difference when nossing or not nossing him.
Couple of ways to do this - I personally swap out a lot slot (damage control usually) and put in the best named signal amplifier - this allows me to target at just over 100km and kill the sentries straight after the 2 ferox at warp in on last stage. I also swap out my usual thermal hardener for an AB and just tank for kinetic (I used a cap injector when I had T2 XL shield booster to keep the tank running through killing the sentries). Just means I don't have to warp out and refit during the mission as I found that a right pain in the rear end.
If you don't want to sacrifice a mid slot for an AB you can fit a nano (or more than one) in your low slots. You will take a lot longer to close the gap (obviously) but you will still catch him eventually (careful not to push him too far from the mission area when chasing him though as he sort of does a 'reset warp' back to the mission area).
Webber + AB is also an option if you fly out and refit (don't need as much tank with only him left) - saves cap on running the AB once you get close although shouldn't really be needed as he drops fast at close range.
Just a few ideas anyway - there's lots of ways to get close (webber drones is an excellent suggestion I hadn't considered).
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Hephaesteus
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.16 00:06:00 -
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Rachen Mysuna is a tough one alright, but can be solo'ed fairly easily. So far I have solo'ed vengemce in a Megathron, Raven and an Astarte (blasters and rails)
The Astarte pwnd him in no time what so ever with blasters rails took a little longer, the Mega ripped him to pieces with 350 T2 rails a drone link augmentor and 4 heavy drones, the Raven kicked his bits in no time what so ever 7 T2 cruise and 3 BCU T2.
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Andrymeda
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Posted - 2006.11.16 18:46:00 -
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Never activate all your missile bays at once. What I do is start one bay, wait until it launches 3 missles (varies by skill/launcher) then activate the 2nd, repeat until all bays are active. The 1st bay runs out of ammo and takes 10 secs to reload. Once it loads, activate it again. The 2nd bay now runs out and so on.
If you have say 6 launchers, this means the minimal damage you can deal is 5 bays active. I also found that orbiting such rats about 8.5km in full AB reduces their damage dealing, especially if you have a good NOS in your spare slot(s).
Some rats are very resistive to your damage, but if your ship has a damage bonus, then load only that ammo. Sometimes that is not enough. For example, some rats can resist my Cerb's damage (they can't scratch my shields), so all I am doing is wasting missiles. My Raven however can deal more damage than a Cerb. Such strong rats fall in under a minute. But my resistances are weaker than a Cerb, so it depends what you are doing. I tend to use my Ravens once all other rats are dead.
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Nikla Uthaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.17 05:03:00 -
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Rage Torpedos + a couple TP's ftw =)
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Out Siders
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nikla Uthaan
Rage Torpedos + a couple TP's ftw =)
Too much speed, and he will shoot down the torps with defenders.
However, Jav torps will crush him easaly, due to the speed of jav torps and damage
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:08:00 -
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Anyone tried this with cruise missiles, caldari BS 5 and missile velocity bonus skill at 5? Once your cruises go above 7.5k/s the defenders wont hit (regardless of range).
I'd like to see a lowslot module that gives +25% to missile velocity or something....
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Egil Kolsto
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Posted - 2006.11.17 15:15:00 -
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I have taken him out a few times in Pure Cruise setup. Once with AB, I chased him so far off his spawn he wrapped back with 10% structure and off course full shields. Next time I slapped on a AB, Drone Link Aug and just wore him down. His defenders are not 100% so it is just a matter of luck/patience. Last time I spent over 1800 cruise missiles taking him out, not so lucky on the defender rolls that time.
Now with Cruise 5 and Cruise Spec 2, I am very curious to see the difference. No, only Bombardement/projection at 4, same with BS. My theory is that the increased damage from each missile added to the 9% RoF improvement should tip the odds in my favour.
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Egil Kolsto
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Posted - 2006.11.17 16:20:00 -
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It seems to me that you only need one of the two skills at 5.
Base velocity 3,750
BS at 4 3,750 x 1.4 gives 5,250
Missiles Projection at 5 5,250 x 1.5 gives 7,875 enough to break the 7500 threshold.
Missile projection is a rank 4 skill unlike BS, so quicker to test it this way. I'll let you know in 16 days time =P
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Arakasai
Caldari
Blueprint Haus
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Posted - 2006.11.23 16:52:00 -
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When I was low skilled, I would warp out and re-fit with torps and an AB to kill this NPC.
Now I can take him with Cruise Missiles and a Drone Range unit which has become my default in the high anyway.
The issue here is that this NPC destroys 0-3 missiles every "cycle" of its defenders. This is a drastic decrease in the amount of damage delivered by a mission runner.
To deal with this you need to get closer than about 20km and the defenders cannot hit your cruise missles anymore. Or have a higher DPS.
With my 6 T2 Cruise missiles and T2 drones (Range Augmentor) I take down this NPC in a single ammo load. So 27 shots x6 launchers.
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Pfrundpaechter
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Posted - 2006.11.23 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: Pfrundpaechter on 23/11/2006 21:29:30
Originally by: Egil Kolsto
It seems to me that you only need one of the two skills at 5.
Base velocity 3,750
BS at 4 3,750 x 1.4 gives 5,250
Missiles Projection at 5 5,250 x 1.5 gives 7,875 enough to break the 7500 threshold.
Missile projection is a rank 4 skill unlike BS, so quicker to test it this way. I'll let you know in 16 days time =P
i have missile supports and BS to Level IV. 5% velo implant, somewhat about 7730 m/s. his/her defenders are still hitting
killing from 50km with only t1 cruisies in t2 launchers (7.35 rof) takes about 2 reloads. fitting a drone range mod and using vespa ii's : half missile bay
update: okay, 4 left :-P
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2006.11.23 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Aseoph
Ok, so I've been doing L4 missions for quite some time now, have worked myself into a mostly t2 setup minus the launchers on my raven, which I use Arbies Cruise. So I get through Vengeance, have to warp out a few times (I can't wait for the faction XL booster!) and then I get to the end. I go up against a named rat called Rachen Mysuna.
Ok, seriously this rat (besides not letting you any closer than 50km) tanks everything! I even warped out, refit my ship with 6X siege launchers and I couldn't even break her tank. I get about half down on her shields and then i have to reload my launchers, and that provides her with time to recharge her shields fully! I had to beg in local (because my corp is far away) for help, and it took 2 Ravens to take this $#^#@ down! What the hell happened here?
I remember having done this mission solo before and taking her out, but I don't remember ever meeting a mission inwhich I had to have someone's assistance!
I asked around and I'm not the only one that has experienced this. What's up CCP? Have you made the named rats so dang hard that you require either t2 cruise/torp to take them out? Ridiculous!
You do know.. that LVL 4 missions were NEVER meant to be SOLOED in the first place right?
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Roy Gordon
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Posted - 2006.11.23 23:25:00 -
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I got this mission as my very first lvl 4 last week. I solo'd it in a Raven fitted with T1 cruise/torps. Took my 5 hours to complete, two of those hours to take down the final BS. Secret is to fit cruise for the first two areas, warp out and fit torps and an afterburner for the last level.
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Posted - 2006.11.24 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lockheed19 on 24/11/2006 01:09:13
Aseoph, you should have convo'ed me!
Take 2 x berserker SW-900's with you. When the rest are dead, set the two webber drones onto him and start tailing him. The secret to breaking his tank isn't just about your own firepower. Once you're within nos range it's game over for your quarry! 2 x Heavy dims and he's down pretty quick.
Hope this helps bud'....but next time? Convo me!
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Arakasai
Caldari
Blueprint Haus
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Posted - 2006.11.24 16:29:00 -
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Unless something has changed in the last 6 months or so since I tested this, NOS has no effect on this mob.
What you are likely seeing is that you have closed to a range that your missiles no longer get killed by his defenders.
Try it next time at close range without the NOS. I expect you will find he drops just as quickly with and without NOS.
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Sam Browne
Caldari
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Fondas
Heavy Web drones !
They kept him still while I close......
The same tactic should work for a single raven too. AFAIK,
Raven Pilots' problem is the defenders...
Hope that helps ;)
Fondas is on the money here, I solo V L4 in a cruise fit Raven, and I lock him down with a Web drone whilst closing distance (This does however, require a Drone Link Aug - I have one as a standard fit(!)). 1-2km is very close however, I hold off on the cruise until he is <40km then launch away and I find his tank breaks when I get below about 15km.
He is a bit of a git to work out though.
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Kai DeathCutter
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Posted - 2006.11.25 11:18:00 -
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my rather unusual technique is to bump rachen with my loot hauler until I get him in drone range. T2 med drones tips the balance for my cruise raven, and he goes down pretty fast then.
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Moelevolent
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Posted - 2006.11.25 12:56:00 -
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I just use a drone link augmenter send in t2 drones, then space torpedoes fire so it goes in as a long train of torps instead of volleys. he can't stop all of them with defenders and he goes down in about 2-3 reloads
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MMXMMX
Caldari
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.26 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Hephaesteus
Rachen Mysuna is a tough one alright, but can be solo'ed fairly easily. So far I have solo'ed vengemce in a Megathron, Raven and an Astarte (blasters and rails)
The Astarte pwnd him in no time what so ever with blasters rails took a little longer, the Mega ripped him to pieces with 350 T2 rails a drone link augmentor and 4 heavy drones, the Raven kicked his bits in no time what so ever 7 T2 cruise and 3 BCU T2.
yes thats all there is to do .
3 times BCU in low slots and that wil get him down .
It wil stil be a hard rat to kil but he wil die .
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Guile D'Verde
Caldari
The Crescent Order
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Posted - 2006.11.26 15:24:00 -
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I'm fairly low sp still but was able to beat him with the following setup:
Raven (standard)
hi
4 x xt-9000 cruise launcher
2 x zw-4100 siege missile bay
1 x heavy 'knave' I energy drain
mid
1 x large shield booster II
1 x shield boost amp I
1 x 100mn ab
3 x ballistic deflection field I
low
3 x bcu II
2 x pdu
I cleared the rest of the room before switching to this fitting. Once back, I ab'ed up as close as I could, he eventually openned fire. Once I closed on him I could turn off the ab and he wouldn't get ahead of me. From there I just staggered my missile bays so they weren't all reloading at once and set my drones on him for good measure. He died after several reloads.
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