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ChronoLynx
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:35:00 -
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Currently as it is the Dominix has a 5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage and 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level.
As I have seen it is rare for a Dominix pilot to use Lare Hybrid Turrets as they take too much powergrid for the small ammount the Dominix has. And before anyone says that the Domi should have a nos bonus I will shoot that down...
The domi should have a Sensor Damp bonus. Many of the people I have seen PvPing in Domis are running ECM. A Damp Bonus would be more useful.
Also before anyone says that I am favoring the Gallente I am a Caldari pilot who notes issues with all the other races. The idea to change the domi is just my two cents worth, have a go at it now. |
Rule2k
Fate.
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:38:00 -
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nar i think a webbing range bonus
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Serendipity007
X.T.R Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 02:19:00 -
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I agree, the large hybrid bonus is hardly ever used, and the Domi is 100% droneboat.
It should get some other bonus like 5% drone tracking or 20% Mining Drone yield per level.
That and add a Faction Dominix with a +1 drone controlled per level bonus. *drool* ___________________________________________________ "I'm an engineer, not a miracle worker!" - Scotty, Star Trek: The Original Series |
Ansuru Starlancer
The Phoenix Rising Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 02:39:00 -
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A web bonus? Ewww...web = bad for drones. Only time web helps a drone is on one of them interceptor thingies, and no balanced web bonus will extend their range far enough to make a difference there :p
A dampener bonus, though...that has possibilities :)
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Protunia
Gallente Horadrim
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Posted - 2006.11.15 02:39:00 -
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hmmm I dont know about that. Sure lots of people use drones with the drone bonus. But taking away a damage bonus for weapons that some people do use would not be fair.
How about we just give them an additional bonus on top of the others :) that way everyones happy!! My Character Stats |
Zeknichov
Amarr Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.15 03:08:00 -
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People don't use guns because its PG is too low. I suggest upping the PG by 3000
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Griever Takkow
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Posted - 2006.11.15 03:55:00 -
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If they change the damage bonus on the hybrids im gonna burn down CCP.
People dont use the hybrid bonus cos they cant see past a solo setup. In close range fleet combat a Domi can be fitted for uber pwnage.
I run 6x350II's, 2 invuln II's, 3 extender II's, DCU, 3xMFS II, 3x Tracking enhancer II. With the addition of sentry drones it EASILY outdamages a Megathron at 40km.
And also theres blaster setups, Dual 250 and armour tank setups, Daul 250 /350 active shield tank setups......
The double damage bonus and 5/7 mid/low layout gives it so much versatility it would be a crime to change it.
Its just a real shame so many people waste it with ghey ECM/NOS setups.
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Tricit
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.15 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: Tricit on 15/11/2006 04:41:24 If CCP does this for you, they need to take of 90% cap usage of lasers.
Oh, also, 200% speed of all missiles/rockets/torpedoes
and an extra 5% ROF for Minnie Ships
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Quilan Ziller
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Posted - 2006.11.15 05:04:00 -
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Yes, I agree with the OP - large hybrid bonus is not extremely useful for most Domi applications. Sensor damp bonus is a really great idea!
/signed
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Vaughn'x
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.15 05:08:00 -
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has anybody actually flown a blaster domi, its a beast.
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Rockbox
Amarr Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.15 06:22:00 -
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All I know is that if this suggestion went live, it would ruin all the very interesting and unique domi setups that dont involve nos. Have you ever hear of JamesW? go watch his movies and tell me 5% bonus to large Hybrid Turret Damage is a bad bonus
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Protunia
Gallente Horadrim
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Posted - 2006.11.15 06:57:00 -
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Keep the Domi as it is and reduce all other ships :) My Character Stats |
Zazmatazz
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Posted - 2006.11.15 07:48:00 -
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The domi is too powerful already. I think it should be nerfed. Give it a small rocket bonus or a mwd duration bonus or something like this and reduce it'd drone bay. That would balance it a bit more.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.11.15 07:56:00 -
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Just because all the cookie-cutter Nosdomis used by cheesy people with no imagination don't require the hybrid bonus does not mean it is a bad one. I had some very nice setups back when I used a Domi, and they all featured hybrid turrets. So please leave it as it is now. Think out of the box, use the ship bonus! --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
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Luric Vizjier
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zeknichov People don't use guns because its PG is too low. I suggest upping the PG by 3000
If you do that, people will just add more NOS, so No.
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Thoris Levithar
Gallente Gadget Factory
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Posted - 2006.11.15 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: Thoris Levithar on 15/11/2006 08:43:40
Originally by: Zeknichov People don't use guns because its PG is too low. I suggest upping the PG by 3000
There's plenty of PG on the domi to fit large guns. Of course if you want a dual rep tank, ab/mwd or such stuff you will probably have a hard time to fit all six high slots with guns...same if you try to fit the largest guns.
Just to prove my point: 1x LAR II: 2300 mw 1x AB: 625 mw 6x Electron Blaster: 7500 mw (btw. dual 250's cost the same) => 10425/11250 mw used. This does not even include AWU!
EDIT: before anyone mentions that I used t1 guns: with t2 electron blasters/dual 250's you would use 7878 mw. Still plenty pg left.
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Zhull
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.11.15 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Zhull on 15/11/2006 14:53:45
Originally by: Thoris Levithar Edited by: Thoris Levithar on 15/11/2006 08:43:40
Originally by: Zeknichov People don't use guns because its PG is too low. I suggest upping the PG by 3000
There's plenty of PG on the domi to fit large guns. Of course if you want a dual rep tank, ab/mwd or such stuff you will probably have a hard time to fit all six high slots with guns...same if you try to fit the largest guns.
Just to prove my point: 1x LAR II: 2300 mw 1x AB: 625 mw 6x Electron Blaster: 7500 mw (btw. dual 250's cost the same) => 10425/11250 mw used. This does not even include AWU!
EDIT: before anyone mentions that I used t1 guns: with t2 electron blasters/dual 250's you would use 7878 mw. Still plenty pg left.
I agree. I fly a Domi most of the time and altough grid is somewhat limited you can fit large guns on it. The hibrid gun bonus is usefull for PvE.
More grid will probably mean that we will see Domis flying around with 6 NOS and dual reppers which will ultimately will lead to a complete nerf.
Also the Domi has good CPU that allow you to shield tank it when using railguns.
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Zeknichov
Amarr Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Thoris Levithar Edited by: Thoris Levithar on 15/11/2006 08:43:40
Originally by: Zeknichov People don't use guns because its PG is too low. I suggest upping the PG by 3000
There's plenty of PG on the domi to fit large guns. Of course if you want a dual rep tank, ab/mwd or such stuff you will probably have a hard time to fit all six high slots with guns...same if you try to fit the largest guns.
Just to prove my point: 1x LAR II: 2300 mw 1x AB: 625 mw 6x Electron Blaster: 7500 mw (btw. dual 250's cost the same) => 10425/11250 mw used. This does not even include AWU!
EDIT: before anyone mentions that I used t1 guns: with t2 electron blasters/dual 250's you would use 7878 mw. Still plenty pg left.
Hehe my post was actually leaning towards sarcasm. The last thing the domi needs is a PG boost, it would overpower the ship too much.
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente The Underground
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:41:00 -
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A passive shield tanking Domi with power relay I can fit 6 T2 Neutrons with void ammo with extra grid (if you use power diagnostic system I because their t2 isn't out, or is it? I used 4x of them, more then I need but thye boost cap regen in shield regen) and with the oger t2 bamage boost it shoots about 1000dps and 810dps on a stripped mega, doing no makes the tank permi but the shield regin of the domi down to 75-shieldper sec(which is more hp per sec then a armor LARII) and a open mid for a shield resist. blaster/shieldtankDomi is very possible I don't know why no one really uses them.
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Pottsey
Gallente Acme Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:44:00 -
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Give it a 5% better shield recharge rate. That makes sence. Passive shield tanking guide click here |
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El Yatta
Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:05:00 -
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Why would anyone want to nerf the lovely domi by taking away its hybrid bonus??
6x dual 250mm II 3x ECM multi II, 1x heavy electrochem injector, 20k LAR accomodation, 2x EANM II, DCU, 3x mag stabs.
Tough, jammin' and 6 guns that you can afford to fit Javelin in. They hurt - and they also outdamage your drones easily unless you've got BS 5 and t2 ogres.
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OneSock
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:44:00 -
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PVP setups aside. For PVE lv4s you can't fit a good enough tank and mount large rails. Why not simply add a fitting reduction bonus for large rails ?
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente The Underground
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Almasy on 15/11/2006 17:16:21 For PVE you set on lets say: HIGH 5x 425mm Railgun II [Thorium Charge L](63k opt 30k fall) 1x Small Tractor Beam (must have for BC+) Med 3x Large Shield Extender II 2x Passive Hardeners (pick a rat type) Low 3x Power Diagnostic system II 2x Type-D Power Core Modification: Shield Power Relay 2x Type-D Power Core Modification: Capacitor Power Relay
Drones: 5x Warden I [sentry drone]
DPS: est 451 at 75,000km
using antimatter and Garde I(antimatter makes it a non perm tank) DPS: est 602 at 45,000km ------------------------------------------------------ Is that good enough for missions?
[EDIT] 65 optimal shield per sec with 15447 shield capacity.
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Gigi Barbagrigia
Latent Appliance Fetishists
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:59:00 -
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As few have already pointed out, 425s are not only large rails available.
Nay.
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Max Hardcase
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:03:00 -
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They're stuck in fleet combat = 425 II's mode.
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:09:00 -
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You want the domi to do similar damage to the Ishtar, and less than a Brutix? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
Zacheria Malfor
Gallente FightClub TQ
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Zacheria Malfor on 15/11/2006 18:40:14 Leave the bonuses on the Dominix alone
The only possible change needed on the dominix is about 1,000 - 1,500 base pg increase. There is nothing wrong with it what so ever otherwise. I'm tired of people demanding changes to ships when there is nothing wrong with them what so ever. I fly a blasterdomi and love every minute of it.
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Rafein
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:50:00 -
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um, no.
I like the bonus to hybrids, and I do fit 350's II. They use less Grid than NOS, but Domi's seem to find a way to fit NOS, so it can;t be that bad.
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ragewind
Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 21:12:00 -
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the penny has droped that the ecm/nos domi is dieing so now you what a damp/nos domi nice solo ship the domi shouldent be thats why they are changeing ecm
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.11.15 23:41:00 -
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The reason people don't fight large hybrid turrets on a Domi is because that takes away from being able to fit those Half dozen NOS.
It's not hard to see the transparency of why people want a sensor damp bonus, considering the ECM 'nerf'.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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