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Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 154	Posted - 2015.05.26 05:28:38 - [1] - Quote So tonight i did some elitenullsec pvp and rained down some damps and helped kill a Vagabond, a Munnin and a Huginn in Fountain. I lost 2 Mauluses, a couple velators and an empty pod. So what is "worth it" to you personally? ? To me those 5 losses were "worth it" cuz i helped destroy 3 T2 ships worth over a half billion. Some people HATE dying though and never consider it "worth it" if they die. Ithers like PL and BL will lose 200mill ships in exchange for 10 2mill frig kills and say the Good-Fight was "worth it" to them. So whats "worth it" to you?
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 37563	Posted - 2015.05.26 05:32:08 - [2] - Quote Win or lose, every fight is worth it. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out 8076	Posted - 2015.05.26 06:00:39 - [3] - Quote If my death results in a kill that is worth more than my loss... it is worth it. How did you Veterans start? The Skillpoint System and You
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 8638	Posted - 2015.05.26 06:09:45 - [4] - Quote If you had fun then it's worth it. If you had no fun then it wasn't. Simple as that, really. I've lost ship after ship without a kill before, but was screaming and laughing my ass off the whole time (worth it). On the other hand, I've done structure bashes where I killed a big thing and lost no ship, yet was so ******* bored I was ready to quit the game (not worth it). Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 15967	Posted - 2015.05.26 06:35:57 - [5] - Quote Fun > isk. I will fit and fly just about anything. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 1071	Posted - 2015.05.26 06:37:52 - [6] - Quote yesterday I killed two Mackinaws and lost two Catalyst. It was totally worth it. the Code ALWAYS wins
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1647	Posted - 2015.05.26 07:24:26 - [7] - Quote Even if I fail to destroy my target I consider the fight worth it if it was fun. Doubly so if my opponent turned out to be just as excited as me about the battle. Considering most of my targets are 'PvE' minded folks that's not super common, but it's like triple word score in Scrabble when it happens. It's so refreshing to get an 'OMG that was AWESOME!' in local rather than a stream of abuse and invective. Also, my ship was destroyed the moment I hit undock. It just hasn't happened yet. Or maybe it has. Either way, I think you know what I mean. Every ship is on borrowed time, just waiting for the hammer to fall... what matters is how much joy you can squeeze out of it before it's inevitable explosion. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 9722	Posted - 2015.05.26 09:20:50 - [8] - Quote Some of the best fights I have had I lost, well worth it. =]\|[=
Shimoto Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2015.05.26 09:28:13 - [9] - Quote I don't get the whole "the other guy lost more than I did therefore it was worth it" thing. I mean, if you enjoyed it, that makes it worth it by itself. But "I just lost 500 mil but the other guy lost a bil so yay, go me?" ... all of my wat.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1650	Posted - 2015.05.26 09:37:39 - [10] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Some of the best fights I have had I lost, well worth it. My favorite of all time was a flip against a brutix who turned out to have buddies who were also missioning in system. Next thing I know my incursus is going up against two brutixes... and then an augorer as well. Of course I died in a fire, but it took a surprisingly long time... If only they could have heard me cackling like a maniac the whole time. Best part was their glee at having won, coupled with the fact that it was a three week old newbro who landed the killshot. I can only hope I piqued their interest in the joys of exploding other people. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 9723	Posted - 2015.05.26 09:46:40 - [11] - Quote Shimoto wrote: I don't get the whole "the other guy lost more than I did therefore it was worth it" thing. I mean, if you enjoyed it, that makes it worth it by itself. But "I just lost 500 mil but the other guy lost a bil so yay, go me?" ... all of my wat. It matters on a war report, some merc contracts pay by the worth of assets destroyed, the employer couldn't give a **** how much fun you had . =]\|[=
Avaelica Kuershin Paper Cats 120	Posted - 2015.05.26 09:51:25 - [12] - Quote I fought the Goons and the Goons won... and it was lots of fun. Participated in a gank, couple of days later quickly discovered a killright against me... that was entertaining trying to dodge being shot... and failing. Quick trips home are fun too. :) It's all about the fun
Sibyyl Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 25136	Posted - 2015.05.26 10:01:14 - [13] - Quote As an adrenalin junkie I think it must be the adrenaline/endorphin rush. This starts soon as I take that gate into low or undock in null and it lasts until I blow up. In EVE I can't break any bones or spike my insurance premiums.. so it is a cheap way of getting this fix. Some people find killboard stats to be important (like high scores in any arcade game). This is not my motivation yet (because I'm not good at PVP), but I can respect that.. and I won't deny I might turn into a killboard OCDer one day. All our times have come Here but now they're gone
Moac Tor Cy-Core Industries Stain Confederation 72	Posted - 2015.05.26 10:09:51 - [14] - Quote Don't answer the OP, you'll only encourage her.
Shimoto Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2015.05.26 10:10:08 - [15] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Shimoto wrote: I don't get the whole "the other guy lost more than I did therefore it was worth it" thing. I mean, if you enjoyed it, that makes it worth it by itself. But "I just lost 500 mil but the other guy lost a bil so yay, go me?" ... all of my wat. It matters on a war report, some merc contracts pay by the worth of assets destroyed, the employer couldn't give a **** how much fun you had . Interesting... a tantalising career prospect indeed. Hmm...
Eternus8lux8lucis Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 364	Posted - 2015.05.26 10:21:19 - [16] - Quote It used to be the number of kills in any engagement that determined the winner, then it started to turn over the years to where isk destroyed not the number of kills was the winning tally but for me now I want my kills or deaths to mean something but I find that that doesnt happen. After 12 years its just a slower WoTs to me in that regard which is a shame imo on a personal level rather than its the games fault. So I guess not much is worth it anymore to me which is probably why I sit in station for the most part and chat with people I have met over the years. That being said over the years looking back what was worth it were the stories the kills or losses generated. That held meaning for the future and at the time didnt even know it yet. I could care less about my killboard, but those stories I find I revisit more often in my mind these days as Im not finding them so much these days at all anymore. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak. http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace
Seven Koskanaiken Positive Failure Black Legion. 1512	Posted - 2015.05.26 11:27:39 - [17] - Quote It's worth it if you win the objective. Or if you didn't win the objective, at least you won the isk war. Or if you didn't win the isk war, at least you had fun. Everyone wins a trophy.
Azda Ja Green Skull LLC 3755	Posted - 2015.05.26 11:38:58 - [18] - Quote Some months ago a corp mate and I were messing around with MWD long point beam executioners he'd theory crafted. We had been practicing manual piloting for about an hour and decided to pop through a null sec WH near our home. Couple jumps in we find a PVE Ishtar and engage. We were doing the whole double click to maneuver thing for a minute or two (felt like an hour) and finally I derpped and got scram-ed and dead. The Ishtar pilot was having trouble though since he didn't seem to have a flight of light drones. I head home to reship. My buddy had to disengage to stay alive, but the fight stayed alive as he ended up following my buddy back through the WH, by which time I was on grid with another corpy in a Stabber. This time I do a better job of double click fu and don't die right away. The Stabber however died in a fire to the Ishtar's sentries. While our two Execs kept pecking, the ishtar pilot mosied on over to the Stabber's Warriors, picked em up and sic-ed em on us. Big WTF from the both of us as we died (didn't notice soon enough). I reship to a Slicer this time (bad choice, believe me I know) and die again another minute or two later. Corpy died again as well. All of us dead and w/o any fit ships left to throw at this Ishtar we retire and salute the pilot for a fantastic fight. As embarrassing as it was, we had a blast and my buddy ended up talking to our opponent for a little while after. Apparently he was pretty near death at that point since he had burned out both his Shield extenders. TL; DR Sometimes spankings are fun for the spankee. As the others have said, if it's fun and you get a cool story out of it it's worth it. "I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting.
Commander Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1462	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:21:23 - [19] - Quote Types of PVP and worth. Assassination / Gank = Attack other player in a way that they can't defend (often, can't even fight back) - See CODE Blob = Bring so many people that the average damage done is about 100 on each kill mail. - See CFC PVP = You have enough people to get the job done. Both sides will receive losses. Elite PVP = You bring far less players than the other side, but win via better META / cohesive fleet doctrine I prefer #3 and #4. ISK loss is pointless to me. Bane of the game muppets that get aroused by ISK Everyone should just log out and play another game if #2 is forming. Thanks CCP, problem is you, not the players. I'd only do #1 if it was personal. Sometimes, you just have to throw your ship away to ensure they lose theirs too. So, Worth is very relative. Appreciate the question OP :) If it's not fun with friends, it's worthless (not pointless, just entertainment value is lost). There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP
Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1462	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:21:23 - [20] - Quote Types of PVP and worth. Assassination / Gank = Attack other player in a way that they can't defend (often, can't even fight back) - See CODE Blob = Bring so many people that the average damage done is about 100 on each kill mail. - See CFC PVP = You have enough people to get the job done. Both sides will receive losses. Elite PVP = You bring far less players than the other side, but win via better META / cohesive fleet doctrine I prefer #3 and #4. ISK loss is pointless to me. Bane of the game muppets that get aroused by ISK Everyone should just log out and play another game if #2 is forming. Thanks CCP, problem is you, not the players. I'd only do #1 if it was personal. Sometimes, you just have to throw your ship away to ensure they lose theirs too. So, Worth is very relative. Appreciate the question OP :) If it's not fun with friends, it's worthless (not pointless, just entertainment value is lost). There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP

IcyMind Arierep Chaotic Tranquility Lethal Intent. 14	Posted - 2015.05.26 14:13:36 - [21] - Quote like somepeople in here say, win or loose it worth it. Now the question is do you understand what happend in the fight. Like if you loose try to answer the following question: Why did I loose? Why did I engage in this combat ? What should i done differently ? Was my enemy brawling or kitting ? Was my enemy neuting or dpsing ? try to understand what happen in the fight. Don't get frustrated all fight worth it.
Switch Savage The Tuskers The Tuskers Co. 96	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:15:44 - [22] - Quote Anytime i learn something beyond what I already know from an "on paper" perspective makes the fight worthwhile regardless of cost within reasonable limits. The times i get annoyed at a loss is when I learn nothing from the engagement, that said if you look hard enough you can always come away with something even if its just an affirmation of something you already knew.
Daerrol Quantum Singularities Half Massed 164	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:33:53 - [23] - Quote I had a bad fight last night. I got socked closed, logged back in, assigned drones, socket closed... logged back in... You get the idea. Fortunately I was in a gila so my assigned drones hammered the target pretty hard. Still I died to a proteus I could easily have webbed and MWD'd away from. Getting caught by an armor ship in a Nano shield ship shouldn't ever happen. So yeah. That's my a bad fight. The rest are worth it. One of my fav fights was tackling a bait paladin to see a Nyx get dropped. Never seen a Super before.
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1837	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:56:26 - [24] - Quote It all depends on how I feel when starting to play. Lolroams will be worth it if I feel like doing that but if I want something more serious, don't try to make me participate in a killboard padding operation for example.
Valkin Mordirc 1048	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:40:29 - [25] - Quote If I lose a 3bil Marauder Gloriously to a cruiser gate camp and kill like 10 of them regardless of the Isk ratio it's worth it. If me and friends go out and fight out in lowsec against another gang, and I die it's worth it. If I'm undock a in a BS gang into another BS gang, it's worth it. It's not about winning or isk eff, or K/D ratios those are somewhat but not entirely measures of skill. It's about having fun. If you going to get upset because you lost a ship, or you didn't kill enough ships before you lost it. You just making the game hell for you. Sometimes you just gotta drop a solo nestor into the glory belt and see how long you can live. `#DeleteTheWeak`
Nicolai Serkanner Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective 378	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:48:11 - [26] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: So tonight i did some elitenullsec pvp and rained down some damps and helped kill a Vagabond, a Munnin and a Huginn in Fountain. I lost 2 Mauluses, a couple velators and an empty pod. So what is "worth it" to you personally? ? To me those 5 losses were "worth it" cuz i helped destroy 3 T2 ships worth over a half billion. Some people HATE dying though and never consider it "worth it" if they die. Ithers like PL and BL will lose 200mill ships in exchange for 10 2mill frig kills and say the Good-Fight was "worth it" to them. So whats "worth it" to you? And here I was, hoping you would write what it would be worth for me to see you leave these forums forever.
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 424	Posted - 2015.05.26 20:12:44 - [27] - Quote It's the hunt ... if it results in a GF it is a plus, win or loss doesn't matter then. Other I'm considering myself quite obsessed of a green killboard at the end of the day / session. I'm my own NPC alt.
Code Redd Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2015.05.26 20:22:50 - [28] - Quote Not really on my pvp main, but.. Worth it, to me, is when i have overcome something--usually in my head--to come out the winner in a fight. I have a lot of hesitation about pvp, what i should take, what i can fight, what i can win against. So, really, i guess it comes down to this: Did i learn something from it? If yes, it was worth it. If NO, then it wasnt, and i retain this ... mad, unsatisfied feeling. I NEED to know why a failed in a fight. Lost a confessor to a coercer once--i was just furious, it made no sense at all. Mostly i was mad that we engaged at scram range, i got lock and scram, and he burned out of it somehow. After that, there was NO chance of me living. He was fit with polarized guns, 650 dps, and we could both hit each other, but i could NOT keep up with his dps. the only ship i had ever fought that i couldnt. i learned something though. Polarized guns are no joke--and that 1-2 seconds he had an active mwd before i locked him were enough to get out of my range (a tactic i have used effectively only once myself). Worth it.
Joe Atei Aes Dei Asher 11	Posted - 2015.05.26 20:27:52 - [29] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: So tonight i did some elitenullsec pvp and rained down some damps and helped kill a Vagabond, a Munnin and a Huginn in Fountain. I lost 2 Mauluses, a couple velators and an empty pod. So what is "worth it" to you personally? ? To me those 5 losses were "worth it" cuz i helped destroy 3 T2 ships worth over a half billion. Some people HATE dying though and never consider it "worth it" if they die. Ithers like PL and BL will lose 200mill ships in exchange for 10 2mill frig kills and say the Good-Fight was "worth it" to them. So whats "worth it" to you? Only when it's necessary or profitable. Otherwise, I just consider it a neat feature to the game personally.
Leoric Firesword Rolling Static Gone Critical 130	Posted - 2015.05.26 21:51:47 - [30] - Quote any time I engage in pvp it's worth it. sometimes there's fun stories that go along with it, like the time I ran away from a proteus in my executioner (made it out with 17 structure left)



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