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DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.16 11:53:00 - [1] Both industrialists & PvP'ers have varying degrees of lameness... Carebear<->Industrialist PK'er<->PvP'er EveryoneÆs opinion differs on the variance... It's CCP's job to make sure the game is balanced in such a way that the majority of players are PvP'ers and Industrialists, and keeping the number of PK'ers & Carebears to a minimum...
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.16 13:34:00 - [2] Edited by: DarkMatter on 16/11/2006 13:35:14 Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Galk A word that only exists in the online gamers vocab. Simple as.... Because i play the game the way i do (that selfish/greedy Individual portraid in the op) Iv'e been called a gutless carebear coward quite a few times in the game and on the forum..... when thats aimed me, i see it as nothing but a personal insult tbh.. Within the world of eve is the only place i ever get called that, or thought of in that manner and way. It never happens when im out with my friends, not when im at work... and certainly not when i was serving my country with a gun in my hand, and the voluntary and charity work iv'e done off my own back in the last 15 years. Ofc the real coward isn't behind my screen. I think someone has issues.... Actually Galk made a very good statement there, you're the one who has issues... You're just flaming a bunch of posts this morning, like you're bitter about something...
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.16 14:05:00 - [3] Edited by: DarkMatter on 16/11/2006 14:05:56 Quote: I have no issues (atm), but the whole "people call me a <insert label> but I've served my country etc etc in RL" line possibly suggests someone who needs a thicker skin..... So you have something against ppl who serve their county in the military? I tend to think they deserve more respect than most ppl who are afraid to serve, and you don't seem to want to show any, kind of speaks about maybe some issues you have...
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.16 14:35:00 - [4] Edited by: DarkMatter on 16/11/2006 14:36:50 Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 16/11/2006 14:25:22 Edited by: Crumplecorn on 16/11/2006 14:25:02 Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 16/11/2006 14:05:56 Quote: I have no issues (atm), but the whole "people call me a <insert label> but I've served my country etc etc in RL" line possibly suggests someone who needs a thicker skin..... So you have something against ppl who serve their county in the military? I tend to think they deserve more respect than most ppl who are afraid to serve, and you don't seem to want to show any, kind of speaks about maybe some issues you have... You have a gift for missing the point. Since I've got nothing better to do I'll elaborate. Some people who have a thin skin and get insulted in games fall back on postive things about their RL selves as a defense, as they take it all too seriously. This was not the case this time. I don't believe that any player separates himself from the game 100%, maybe there are true RP'ers who do, but they would be very rare IMO. Anyone who forms an opinion on how someone else plays the game (like you have)is not disconnecting themselves from the game world 100%. So yes, falling back on RL experiences that may affect game play in one way or another cannot totally be ignored... So I did not miss any point, you tried to attack/flame a player, not simply an avatar...
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.16 14:49:00 - [5] Edited by: DarkMatter on 16/11/2006 14:54:32 Getting back OT. I have both industrialist and 0.0 PvP characters, currently training a low sec PvP'er as well. I enjoy them all, and being a part time player, I could never enjoy the PvP in this game if I didn't have my empire space industrialists. Given the fact that most alliances don't give part time players leeway to make ISK, as rat hunting & mining for personal gain are severely frowned upon, there's no other way for me to make do... And as far as opinions on game mechanics, and lobbying for change. Chances are, no matter what side you're on, if you post on the forums, you want to see something changed in your favor...
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.16 14:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Zephyr Mallory Originally by: DeadDuck Nothing against miners and so on in 0 space when I know that they are working for the alliance. If they need help I run to help. The ones that dont do nothing more then working for their wallet... I have to say that even in the same alliance I have to control my self to not blow them away So let me get this straight.. if I decided I wanted to play eve and get rich and sit mining all day long- just because I didn't want to share with people but instead decided to sell the results of my time on the market for profit... I'm a bad guy and should be blown away? That is how some feel yes, they feel you're not playing the game as intended. Same as how some players feel a high sec suicide ganker is not playing as intended. It's up to CCP to balance this out...
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.16 15:05:00 - [7] Originally by: Zephyr Mallory DarkMatter: I just wish people would realise ... Playing the game as intended involves logging in and doing anything you want...(short of exploiting glitches and bugs and or abusive behavior). I would like world piece too, but that's not going to happen anytime soon... Neither will peace between these contrasting play styles ever take place, in EVE or any MMO until a game company can find out how to fully integrate PvP & PvE seamlessly... Some players hate others for mining in empire all day, others hate players who control 0.0 space and gank anyone who they please... I'm not sure those feelings of hatred will ever go away. It's what leads to so many debates on the forums, and between the DEV's too I'm sure... Throw in game mechanics that cheaters on both sides try to exploit, and you have EVE... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.16 15:22:00 - [8] Originally by: Stinky Spaniel One think that irks me is indeed people that play MMOs solo, or with an alt buff bot type thing. Rarely interacting with people other than the 2nd account. whats the frigging point. Go play Obivion or Elite. Like that guy said they really are the bane of MMOs And how exactly do they hurt your gaming experience? If I mine with one of my characters, and haul with another. How am I hurting your enjoyment of EVE? If I'm not, then why do you care? I'll never understand that argument... Same as those who complain about 0.0 players hogging all the space out there, when they know they'd never have the balls to venture out there themselves anyways... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE

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