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Freya Sertan
Provincia Septim
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Posted - 2015.06.02 23:57:01 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:When I think of CODE, I think of little drooling Idiot Savant nubs who sit around laughing while they play with themselves and drool on their t-shirts unwashed for months...every once in awhile their caregiver changes their diaper...
Calm down, miner. |

Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13282
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Posted - 2015.06.03 00:08:21 -
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Freya Sertan wrote:BrundleMeth wrote:When I think of CODE, I think of little drooling Idiot Savant nubs who sit around laughing while they play with themselves and drool on their t-shirts unwashed for months...every once in awhile their caregiver changes their diaper... Calm down, miner.
Alternatively, "settle down, Beavis".
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
21617
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Posted - 2015.06.03 00:10:56 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:When I think of CODE, I think of little drooling Idiot Savant nubs who sit around laughing while they play with themselves and drool on their t-shirts unwashed for months...every once in awhile their caregiver changes their diaper...
Just so you know, this came off sounding exactly like jealousy.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
37772
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Posted - 2015.06.03 00:16:40 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:When I think of CODE, I think of little drooling Idiot Savant nubs who sit around laughing while they play with themselves and drool on their t-shirts unwashed for months...every once in awhile their caregiver changes their diaper... What do you think of those that lose to CODE then?
That must be an even more deprived image.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
21618
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Posted - 2015.06.03 00:29:42 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:BrundleMeth wrote:When I think of CODE, I think of little drooling Idiot Savant nubs who sit around laughing while they play with themselves and drool on their t-shirts unwashed for months...every once in awhile their caregiver changes their diaper... What do you think of those that lose to CODE then? That must be an even more deprived image.
Self-reflection can be a dangerous thing...
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
25381
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Posted - 2015.06.03 01:47:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:To be fair, gankers have had another questionable advantage. Repeated nerfs to our playstyle have forced us to band together. Industrialists pretty much get what they ask for because of the extreme number of players involved in the activity. I'm exaggerating of course, but look how the bowhead ehp was "rebalanced". CCP basically asked industrial players how much they wanted and gave it to them.
Because of this high sec predatory organizations have social and political networks in place, where as most high sec industrialists are solo and don't see a significant return on investment for organizing into larger groups.
I would also think that the activity of "killing together" forms a tighter social bond than um.. blueprint researching together or miningincompletesafety together (BOVRL forms plenty of bonds mining in null and killing hostiles but the same kind of adversity is largely missing in hisec.. no offense to CODEdot).
An organization built around the concept of a social activity like ganking is positioned for greater success, than an organization that serves only as a shared living room for roommates who generally don't collaborate.
On the topic of advocating the ganking/awoxing/deccing playstyle I think the hope was that Sabriz or Tora would stand for the minority position on CSM, which at this time has folks who either don't care or working actively to undermine the playstyle because it offends the so-called majority.
All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
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Paranoid Loyd
5544
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Posted - 2015.06.03 02:12:27 -
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The other large advantage is being able to operate on both sides of the coin. When you gank and understand what is and isn't possible and then apply that knowledge to mining or hauling it becomes much much easier to use both sides to your advantage.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1629
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Posted - 2015.06.03 02:30:21 -
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Sibyyl wrote:... On the topic of advocating the ganking/awoxing/deccing playstyle I think the hope was that Sabriz or Tora would stand for the minority position on CSM, which at this time has folks who either don't care or working actively to undermine the playstyle because it offends the so-called majority. It is just mildly annoying. Once you know how to work around them they don't achieve anything significant.
So, *shrug* They probably do more harm than good to the game but either way, it isn't more than a bit of noise time to time on these forums.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Valkin Mordirc
1085
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Posted - 2015.06.03 02:42:09 -
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I don't see any problem with the mail.
The advice was good and sound.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
25383
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Posted - 2015.06.03 02:44:36 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: It is just mildly annoying. Once you know how to work around them they don't achieve anything significant. So, *shrug* They probably do more harm than good to the game but either way, it isn't more than a bit of noise time to time on these forums.
I would surmise this opinion is a bit of sour grapes on your part. I remember voting for you because of your enthusiasm, even though we probably sit diametrically opposed on views about EVE.
I believe there was truth to your enthusiasm, that it wasn't just a charade. I think you understand that CSM isn't all-powerful, or even significant in the big picture, but they do happen to be people who sometimes have CCP's ear directly. I think CSM electees must be superfans, and to a superfan it's pretty cool to be talking to the people who develop the game, even if it is within the mock architectural confines of a people's council.
All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1629
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Posted - 2015.06.03 02:48:51 -
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Sibyyl wrote:... I would surmise this opinion is a bit of sour grapes on your part. ... Try seperate gankers / awoxers / war declarations from CSM for a minute and re-read my post.
I believe they are a vocal minority that are insignicant in actual EVE game play.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
25384
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Posted - 2015.06.03 02:55:09 -
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Spartans don't sweat the Persian army. They fight, because they must.
All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
37776
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Posted - 2015.06.03 02:55:33 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Sibyyl wrote:... I would surmise this opinion is a bit of sour grapes on your part. ... Try seperate gankers / awoxers / war declarations from CSM for a minute and re-read my post. I believe they are a vocal minority that are insignicant in actual EVE game play. Since the CSM election you've been pretty negative about the CSM concept and have always bee negative about CODE, so I'm lost trying to figure out which you are referring to:
CSM is insignificant CODE is insignificant
Could be either that you are saying.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
13017
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Posted - 2015.06.03 03:18:26 -
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Harrison Tato wrote: How about Carewolf. "I saw a Carewolf orbiting the Jita undock. His off-grid boosting was perfect. Ughhhhhh!
Ahhh wooooo! Carewolves of Jita.
If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg
But in purple, I'm stunning!
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23862
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Posted - 2015.06.03 03:25:19 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:I believe they are a vocal minority that are insignicant in actual EVE game play.
Riddle me this - if gankers, awoxers and war declarations are so insignificant why are there so many whines and so much drama about them?
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Wendy Valentino
Essence Distribution and Mining
1
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Posted - 2015.06.03 03:41:30 -
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In truth, this infiltration was trivial. I just used these folks insecurity against them, and made them think I was the best option. The fact that it happened so fast was something of a fluke. They did exactly what I wanted, but they did it so fast I almost could not keep up. It was a fail cascade of people making decisions based on fear, and looking out for number one. They where disorganized, and not all all friends. They could not have known better because none of them collaborated.
Leadership should not be handed out like candy. Everyone can not be a leader. Most are very bad at it. It takes a selflessness, and ruthlessness that very few people have together. Most can only pull off one of those things at a time. Great leaders are few and far between, and people flock to them in droves.
You have to remember that this is a game of war. Some people die at the front lines, some people support the people on the front lines, and there are many casualties in the war. From the big nullsec alliances waging sov warfare, to the merc corps doing hisec wardecs, and even to the suicide gankers making people cry, We are all waging a war. Sometimes that means getting bloody right away, and sometimes it takes lies and manipulation to tear your enemies to shreds. The fact of the matter is that this is a war game. And people love it. All is fair in love and war.
Some people call this greifing. Some people call it a mercy killing. Personally I think of it as a fight. I just fought with my mind, instead of my guns. But then again I like to play with my food before I eat it. Different strokes for different folks.
peace -Wendy |

Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
142
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Posted - 2015.06.03 03:45:48 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:I believe they are a vocal minority that are insignicant in actual EVE game play.
Riddle me this - if gankers, awoxers and war declarations are so insignificant why do so many people whine about them? Probably because the type who make the easiest target also make the loudest noise. |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1781
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Posted - 2015.06.03 04:01:47 -
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And thank you for the "Deliverance" flashback.
Squeal like a pig!
Damn you. It was almost gone. Now, after over 20 years it's back.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1771
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:46:47 -
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Sibyyl wrote:On the topic of advocating the ganking/awoxing/deccing playstyle I think the hope was that Sabriz or Tora would stand for the minority position on CSM, which at this time has folks who either don't care or working actively to undermine the playstyle because it offends the so-called majority. For anyone that has not listened to the first episode of CSM Watch, I highly recommend that you do so. Lanctharus brought up the direction of changes in high sec, and Feyd's image with the repeated nerfs to highsec predatory gameplay. The response from Jayne Fillian was, something to the affect of, "while I would like this playstyle removed, its not on the to do list", and the other csm members basically said that they wouldn't remove it without serious consideration. The fact that this sort of gameplay could even come under the consideration of removal is frankly disgusting and a slap in the face to anyone who appreciates conflict in high sec. To be fair this is in meany ways a Feudian slip, but even so, I consider it a very enlightening one for the general attitude of CSM members. I plan on making a more drawn out post on this topic in the crime and punishment boards in the near future, please keep an eye out there if you're interested in the subject.
Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.
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Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
380
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Posted - 2015.06.03 08:17:48 -
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Elspeth Tezzeret wrote:Lan Wang wrote:hey, why not stay out of other peoples mails huh, nosey parker No, this has to stop this is not "game play" this is full on griefing, end of story and i have the permission of the person whose mail it is
You are wrong.
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Vek Hareka
Fist Bumps All Around
23
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Posted - 2015.06.03 08:20:23 -
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I wish this kind of thread would stop.
Even if some people are RPerrorists-slash-Dicks about it, Ganking is legit, Awoxing is legit, Spying is legit, Heisting is legit.
In that precise case, considering the tale of what happened, what the mole did was in fact downright commendable: exploiting and/ or oblivious CEOs need to DIE. |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2548
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Posted - 2015.06.03 08:45:14 -
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You might want to add that Jayne called war decs, and I quote "The cancer of Eve" in that Interview. Wasn't the first time I heard him say that.
http://csmwatch.com/
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1771
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Posted - 2015.06.03 09:56:21 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:You might want to add that Jayne called war decs, and I quote "The cancer of Eve" in that Interview. Wasn't the first time I heard him say that. http://csmwatch.com/ Check your evemail.
Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
1159
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Posted - 2015.06.03 10:17:43 -
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stil the best was erotica making that other guy freakout on teamspeak... for me its the alltime classic... this does not come close
YouTube
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1629
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Posted - 2015.06.03 11:20:07 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Sibyyl wrote:... I would surmise this opinion is a bit of sour grapes on your part. ... Try seperate gankers / awoxers / war declarations from CSM for a minute and re-read my post. I believe they are a vocal minority that are insignicant in actual EVE game play. Since the CSM election you've been pretty negative about the CSM concept and have always been negative about CODE, so I'm lost trying to figure out which you are referring to: CSM is insignificant CODE is insignificant Could be either that you are saying.

Before the election results:
http://i.imgur.com/trkZVUL.png
I believed it was a bad idea four years ago
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=70255
Before Mittens outted himself as the scum that he is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw
I ran for CSM largely because I looked at so many of the candidates and thought, "Better me than any of them whispering in CCP's ears." Not because I am a particularly good idea but I think that I would do less harm. 
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Josette Dugas
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.06.03 12:29:34 -
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Aww come on now, the CODE it just a wacky, devil-may-care, bunch of fun loving eggers. What I don't get is why they are so keen to get a "good fight" out of you. Let's be honest, they have their thing, they RP the hell out of it, and they make HiSec more interesting, but taking out a mining barge is nothing at all like a "fight" so it can hardly be considered good, bad or otherwise. 
Having said that I would think that if miners spent as much time organizing for their mutual protection (or outright push-back against the CODE) rather then writing furious screeds on the forums then they might get to experience the sweet deliciousness that is CODE tears (all new and lemony fresh!). I mean 1f tears are your thing.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11218
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Posted - 2015.06.03 12:52:20 -
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Josette Dugas wrote:Aww come on now, the CODE it just a wacky, devil-may-care, bunch of fun loving eggers. What I don't get is why they are so keen to get a "good fight" out of you. Let's be honest, they have their thing, they RP the hell out of it, and they make HiSec more interesting, but taking out a mining barge is nothing at all like a "fight" so it can hardly be considered good, bad or otherwise. 
It is a fight, a fight the miner lost the second he undocked without support, without a plan to survive, and without relevant game mechanics knowledge.
I fly pirate battleships for missions (Mach, Rattlesnake, Nightmare) and Incursions (Mach and Vindicator). I know when I pull up my fitting screen that there is a price/cost threshold that if i cross it I'm risking a 'gank for profit'. I know that when I am doing missions and the mission take me out of system, that whatever I do I want to not be afk when I jump through a gate, hand i know i want to make damn sure my hardeners and DC are on as soon as possible after I initiate warp in the new system, because that's my biggest point of vulnerability.
I know that when I'm in an incursion I want to shoot PAST my anchor and anchor on him on his side that is AWAY from the warp in point (so that there is at least one potential gank target, the anchor, between me and the warp in point, like the old joke says, I don't have to outrun the bear, i just have to outrun YOU lol).
So forth and so on. Every second I'm in game and in high sec, I'm "fighting" against the ganker (and scammer and awoxxer) types, with my mind and preventive action. This is why my total lose list against high sec gankers after playing this game since June 21, 2007 (8 years in a couple weeks) are 2 empty shuttles and 1 empty pod.
It's the inability of some to understand that "gameplay" in eve starts at the login screen that creates the conditions where groups like Code can even exist in the 1st place.
Quote: Having said that I would think that if miners spent as much time organizing for their mutual protection (or outright push-back against the CODE) rather then writing furious screeds on the forums then they might get to experience the sweet deliciousness that is CODE tears (all new and lemony fresh!). I mean 1f tears are your thing.
It's simply not in their nature. Anyone who would choose the EVE version mining as a leisure activity are probably not the types to seek out and cooperate with others except in extreme circumstances. They are mentally a lot like the old wild west prospector that goes out into the wildness alone to seek his fortune. Old Wild west prospectors likewise had a super high mortality rate lol.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1629
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Posted - 2015.06.03 13:25:26 -
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Josette Dugas wrote:Aww come on now, the CODE it just a wacky, devil-may-care, bunch of fun loving eggers. What I don't get is why they are so keen to get a "good fight" out of you. Let's be honest, they have their thing, they RP the hell out of it, and ... James 315 was guided by a GM who said that if he made a roleplaying reason they can't ban him for harrassment when bumping miners. So, they aren't a real roleplaying group, it is a construct, a parody and if they start believe the rubbish then they are really sinking.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Origin. Black Legion.
2307
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Posted - 2015.06.03 14:01:15 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:So, rather than be satisfied with CCP deciding to functionally ban proper awoxing, you're on here to complain that people are allowed to join your corp with any ill intent at all, and trying to get them banned.
This is the kind of thing you can only post on an NPC alt. Remember the 'dont awox me brah!' switch? Well, just wait for the cry-us release where CCP introduces some great new additional features!
- CEO's can turn off all external communications, to prevent spies from using eve mail to inform those outside of corp about intel - CEO's can tag all assets in corp hangars with a virus, that will cause the asset to explode (and ship with it) at the press of a button -- no more theft! - CEO's can turn on a new dont-gank-me-brah! switch, which uses whimsical new sleeper technology to prevent CODE members from opening fire on a members ship in hisec!
Surely we can all look forward to more great content-creation features like these to come, with the input of all our illustrious guardians-of-the-sandbox CSM'S!
HAIL BOB..er...BARNEY!
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Freya Sertan
Provincia Septim
149
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:10:22 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:So, rather than be satisfied with CCP deciding to functionally ban proper awoxing, you're on here to complain that people are allowed to join your corp with any ill intent at all, and trying to get them banned.
This is the kind of thing you can only post on an NPC alt. Remember the 'dont awox me brah!' switch? Well, just wait for the cry-us release where CCP introduces some great new additional features! - CEO's can turn off all external communications, to prevent spies from using eve mail to inform those outside of corp about intel - CEO's can tag all assets in corp hangars with a virus, that will cause the asset to explode (and ship with it) at the press of a button -- no more theft! - CEO's can turn on a new dont-gank-me-brah! switch, which uses whimsical new sleeper technology to prevent CODE members from opening fire on a members ship in hisec! Surely we can all look forward to more great content-creation features like these to come, with the input of all our illustrious guardians-of-the-sandbox CSM'S! HAIL BOB..er...BARNEY! F
ilu feyd |
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