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Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.08 17:20:20 -
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I've tried to get used to the new icons, played on sisi before they come to TQ hoping that one day they would start to work for me, but so far they are more of a PITA than anything, I do like the corps icon though but the rest can go to hell..
Remember the bad icon changes for modules a few years ago.? Can you please do the same with these new icons, or at least have them as an option so I can start playing Eve again.
In short.. New icons bad, old (nothing wrong with them) icons good.. Please revert or have the ability to switch them off so we can use the older ones, K thanks. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.09 03:46:16 -
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Just canceled 3 accounts, once my remaining time is up I may not resub if or when the icons are fixed, it depends on how I feel long term about how Eve is being handled now-a-days, I'm an older guy with not so good eyesight so I'm not going to pay money to play a game that is now unplayable for me. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.20 15:45:01 -
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Eraza wrote:I think the New lead game designer last year, and the new lead art director, a few days ago, explains this.
New leads, want to put their mark on the game.
Didnt learn from Incarna because it was not THEIR asses on the line that time.
Now the new people think.. "hmm, where should I make my mark... hey, some UI elements haven't been changed much in the last ten years, Lets plant that down as my personal flag"
That in my opnion also explains CCP's stubbornness with this, and their attitute to the feedback.
It's not about improvements, it's just about pride..
I now can't play this game because of my eyesight, there are way to may different tiny icons on the field to make any quick decision in battles so I'm forced to leave the game I love.
For whatever reasons they chose to ignore the people who pay there salaries it's already written in stone and we will never have the far superior icons back in any form, if it's because of pride or a coder just wanting his/her name on an addition to what was a great game it's bacause of you that I am forced to find a better place to spend my money.
Thanks for running me off CCP, was fun while it lasted. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 15:56:26 -
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Rio Bravo wrote:
Maybe if folks didn't create such drama, and everyone posted without all the emo venom, it wouldn't escalate into people quitting or cutting themselves...
CCP created the drama by utilizing faulty changes to there game, they knew going in that they didn't work from the feedback from SISI, I have no idea why CCP asks for feedback in the first place as they completely ignore the bits that are important to the greater player base.
I quit because the icons don't work for pvp and even in pve they are a PITA, if I was someone like yourself who only forum whores for attention the icons wouldn't have any impact on me as well. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 16:06:21 -
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Constantin Makanen wrote:Sky Marshal wrote:[quote=Rio Bravo]The developers of Star Wars Galaxies didn't care of feedback and did everything they wanted but not what the players wanted, and released dreadful patchs like NGE and others ones. Officially, it was to stop the going down of the subscribers number, but it just made it even worse than before. The CEO of Sony Entertainment made excuses and admitted that they should have listened to the players, but it was after the game was closed...
Let's CCP do that too, maybe this way they will learn to crush their pride, but it will be probably too late. Whatever what you say, the fact is the game has less logged players than before, and it is not a good sign, even for you. Yeah, lets quit because of some icons, that still are work in progress. If people are ready to quit and kill the whole game, by wishing CCP less money, just because of this, they didnt enjoy the game long before the new icons... Because thats what a fan of a game does. Quit and kill off the game, so no future improvement will follow. Some people here are real jerks.
If the icons make the game unplayable I'm not going to continue to shell out RL money to fund three accounts while waiting for them to be rolled back as that is just not going to happen, rollback is the best option and CCP is too hard headed to admit that they screwed up yet again, I have hung around since 2003 and had a blast, I was still having fun until the icons change went into effect, now it's too much work to play so I cut funds on three accounts, if Eve goes down the tubes because of a faulty game change it's not my fault, I gave feedback when the icons went live on SISI and since CCP didn't listen what happens to Eve after that is not my problem. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 16:16:07 -
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Constantin Makanen wrote:Kesta De'Kranken wrote:
2. I have very bad eyesight and the change IS NOT SENSITIVE to people who have bad vision...
Based on your reaction, this must be CCPs fault... lol Kesta De'Kranken wrote:
6. I'll be back when you admit your mistake AND allow us MULTIPLE CHOICES in how we view information...
I've only been here a year and so don't have much invested in real time and money. ... so I'll go play MechWarrior.
A true benefit to the EVE community... Kesta De'Kranken wrote:
I'm going to sit back and watch the subscription numbers. I'll be very sad to see if people lose their jobs over this, but if you disregard the players in this game, you do so at your peril.
First quitting the subscription and than be upset about dropping numbers of players. You are a genius.
If the numbers are dropping (I don't care enough to look to be honest) it may or may not be the fault of the faulty icons as it's summer after all and people like to go outside when it's nice out.
It's not CCPs fault that player has bad eyesight he's just upset that a game change makes Eve unplayable for him and he has a right to cancel his membership because of that, why would someone want to continually pay for a faulty product when the dev blog itself pretty much told us that the faulty icons are here to stay so they will never work for some of it's player base and we chose to move on. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 16:35:26 -
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Constantin Makanen wrote:Alea wrote:
If the icons make the game unplayable I'm not going to continue to shell out RL money to fund three accounts while waiting for them to be rolled back as that is just not going to happen, rollback is the best option and CCP is too hard headed to admit that they screwed up yet again, I have hung around since 2003 and had a blast, I was still having fun until the icons change went into effect, now it's too much work to play so I cut funds on three accounts, if Eve goes down the tubes because of a faulty game change it's not my fault, I gave feedback when the icons went live on SISI and since CCP didn't listen what happens to Eve after that is not my problem.
Real feedback can be given in the long term. But not now.
Real feedback was asked for by CCP and it as given before the icons went live on TQ, CCP received that feedback but decided to ignore that feedback.
CCP is trying to save face by now saying that the icons are a work in progress what also means that they know that the icons are a terrible addition and are trying to find a way out of the mess that they have created by not listening to the feedback that they asked for in the first place. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 16:41:38 -
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Constantin Makanen wrote:Alea wrote:If the numbers are dropping (I don't care enough to look to be honest) it may or may not be the fault of the faulty icons as it's summer after all and people like to go outside when it's nice out. Maybe. To be honest, I dont look at them either. Just paying my subsc. even though I am not playing for months, but there are reasons for that, that will change soon. Alea wrote:It's not CCPs fault that player has bad eyesight he's just upset that a game change makes Eve unplayable for him and he has a right to cancel his membership because of that, why would someone want to continually pay for a faulty product when the dev blog itself pretty much told us that the faulty icons are here to stay so they will never work for some of it's player base and we chose to move on. Its his right, but he should not act like rage quitting will improve the game.
If CCP don't listen to the feedback that they asked for in the fist place quitting is the only option left to do if the game is now unplayable for those people, Eve is heading in a direction that I don't like so I'm going to play other games instead and hope in the future the old style icons make a comeback, if not that's OK too as I had allot of fun the past 12 years. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 17:22:06 -
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Cleanse Serce wrote:Alea wrote:If CCP don't listen to the feedback that they asked for in the fist place quitting is the only option left to do if the game is now unplayable for those people, Eve is heading in a direction that I don't like so I'm going to play other games instead and hope in the future the old style icons make a comeback, if not that's OK too as I had allot of fun the past 12 years. They did listen to the feedback and the new DevBlog proves it : they're working on 4 changes. If your feedback is to roll back, that's not a valid feedback, and i'm glad they don't listen to this.
No they didn't listen as they went ahead and put the icons on TQ knowing that they didn't work from the feedback they received from SISI so now CCP is trying to find a way for them to work for everybody and during that period of time I will not continue to give them money.
If they rollback that's good, if they make the old icons an option even better as there are a few who do like them but if the new icons stay I'm not going to play any longer and I'm OK with that as I had a blast since 2003. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 17:24:36 -
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Constantin Makanen wrote:Alea wrote:If CCP don't listen to the feedback that they asked for in the fist place quitting is the only option left to do.... If so, bye then.
And you don't want my stuffs.? A 2003 player has accumulated lots and lots of stuffs.. |
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Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 17:26:01 -
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Constantin Makanen wrote:Steijn wrote:From a personal point of view, the sandbox was fine for 6 years even with the industry changes which made me completely change how I played the game so dont try coming along with the 'you arent willing to change' crap. You dont fail by changing, but at accepting and to invest into the future.
I personally will not continue to invest in something that no longer works. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 17:31:40 -
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Constantin Makanen wrote:Steijn wrote:ah so making a proper argumentative case FOR the icons now changes into trying to make fun of someone because you cant find any constructive answers to my points. My point was, still is and always will be. Test it in the long term. Also its work in progress, so its not the final release, so please stop acting like a brat. Nobody knows how it will look in the end. Steijn wrote:Not trying for a job at CeeCeePee are you? lol Thats already the second accusation of this type.
The icons wasn't a work in progress until everybody started complaining about them even though they knew they didn't work from the feedback they received off of SISI. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 17:47:05 -
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Kesta De'Kranken wrote:Constantin Makanen wrote:[quote=Kesta De'Kranken]
First quitting the subscription and than be upset about dropping numbers of players. You are a genius. NO. You missed the point. I'm HOPING they fail due to falling subscriptions. It's the ONLY way they will realize they screwed up.
I doubt Eve will die as it's still a great game, it just no longer works for some of us so we was forced to move on and I'm sure others will replace us over time and I hope that is true as I do still love this game but I can no longer play it. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.21 17:55:10 -
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Cleanse Serce wrote:
If you quit the game because you want your dear icones back, i don't, and honestly, you're a good riddance.
I quit because the game is now unplayable for me, I have endured years and years of changes but this change is a game breaker for me so I really have no other choice but to move on. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.25 20:58:05 -
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Panterata wrote:CCP Claymore
So any chance to use old ships and npc icons?
Or to customize them as per old one for all ships classes? - shiny squares and shiny red crosses
As you can see most of the ppl wants them. Pls reply
^^^ This for the love of all that's good this..!! ^^
Not gonna say please as I'm 99.99999999999999999999% sure the new icons are here to stay, forcing a small number of us out of the game probably forever. :( |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.25 21:04:19 -
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Panterata wrote:Copy - Paste
CCP Claymore
So any chance to use old ships and npc icons for ALL SHIPS CLASSES? - shiny squares and shiny red crosses
Or to customize them as per old one for all ships classes? - shiny squares and shiny red crosses
As you can see most of the ppl wants them. Pls reply
Why don't you give us a straight answer for the most important questions ?! 2109 ppl waiting more then a 3 weeks
No answer will be given as they most likely don't care about the few of us who can't play with the icon change, sure they'll lose a few bux but not enough to make them think about spending a few minutes to include the old icon set as an option in a future patch. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.25 21:06:49 -
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Cleanse Serce wrote:Panterata wrote:Copy - Paste
CCP Claymore
So any chance to use old ships and npc icons for ALL SHIPS CLASSES? - shiny squares and shiny red crosses
Or to customize them as per old one for all ships classes? - shiny squares and shiny red crosses
As you can see most of the ppl wants them. Pls reply
Why don't you give us a straight answer for the most important questions ?! 2109 ppl waiting more then a 3 weeks They already answered to this question days ago. Simple answer is : NO. They stick to those icones, and improve them.
It's hard to make something terrible when it's already terrible so improvement is all there is left. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.25 21:31:07 -
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Rio Bravo wrote:Alea wrote:Not gonna say please as I'm 99.99999999999999999999% sure the new icons are here to stay, forcing a small number of us out of the game probably forever. :( The dev blog says they are going to make the icons a customizable thing from the overview menu. So you can still stand your friends up, forget your wifes birthday, or show up late for work, because of your EvE addiction.
My kids are grown, my friends have a life of there own so don't need me around to hold there hand, I'm self employed so I can be as late as I want, my GF has access to my bank account so she can get whatever she wants for her B-Day, Eve was my main game until the icon changes so now I play something else to take up my spare time.
CCP will not make any changes so those of us who want the old icon set available again as that's not CCPs way, it's always been there way or the highway and it will always be that way, the icons will never be customizable enough to make them as useful as they once were, the old icons are a small chunk of the good stuff CCP has removed from the game over the years so what's next to be removed that already works perfectly as it already is..?? |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.28 19:11:54 -
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Tara Eves wrote:Rio Bravo wrote:....hurrr.... Belittling the valid opinions of other players isn't going to help the game you know. It's Sunday night and there's barely 30k players online, these horrendous icons are contributing to the stagnation and deterioration of the health of this game because, when all's said and done, if CCP don't listen, the end will come that much sooner. Don't believe me? look at the fate of Star Wars Galaxies - that game went from it's prime to it's deathbed in double-quick-time because of a mandated change deeply unpopular with those that played it, ignored by those that made it. I hope this travesty of an idea is rolled back - it has no purpose other than indulging the OCD of some arse at CCP who has forgotten the wisdom in the old saying "Keep It Simple, Stupid". ROLL BACK.
I agree the icons are a bad idea but they will never be rolled back or have an option to use the old icons people like us would rather be using, I seriously doubt Eve will die because of this change but it has run some of us off including myself who may never come back as the game as it is right now is unplayable for me.
I have hoards of stuff I'm going to hang onto for a while and see what happens with the icons, if nothing changes I have a few friends that I will give my main toons too then let my three accounts rot away, two are just over 200 mill SP and another has only about 80 mill so I'm hoping to make a few people happy. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.29 17:25:55 -
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Rio Bravo wrote:Lol, Just play the game! 
Your remark is as useful and just as valuable as most of your other comments, congrats on becoming the most useless person in this thread.
Sorry to feed the troll and I'll stop with it here. |
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Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.29 21:29:29 -
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Makkuro Tatsu wrote:Panterata wrote:Rio Bravo wrote:Lol, Just play the game! Lol, we can't! Ships/NPC icons are shity. Waiting old ones or customization You keep waiting, I keep playing. Works fine for me.
If what you posted here was factual you would not be posting here you would be playing Eve. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.29 21:32:03 -
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Panterata wrote:Makkuro Tatsu wrote:Panterata wrote:Rio Bravo wrote:Lol, Just play the game! Lol, we can't! Ships/NPC icons are shity. Waiting old ones or customization You keep waiting, I keep playing. Works fine for me. Yea... CCP made the game since 3 weeks to work only for new ppl to be more "understandable" . We will keep waiting...only 11 days left
This account has about five more days left, my other two has already expired. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.29 21:58:03 -
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Makkuro Tatsu wrote:Alea wrote:If what you posted here was factual you would not be posting here you would be playing Eve. Multitasking. You know you want to. 
I do want to play but the icons make it impossible for my lack of good eyesight. |
Alea
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:05:46 -
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Arch-Magus Mephisto wrote:OK CCP. You have had more than enough time to go back to the old overview Icons.
Why has this not been done? The player base has spoken quite honestly. It's past time we go to the old icons.
I'm sad to say that the icons are here to stay, if you are lucky enough to have sufficient vision to distinguish one icon from another you will either have to learn to use that mess CCP calls an upgrade or bail out like some of us already have done. |
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