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Sidious Dei
Gallente
Solid Ind.
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Posted - 2006.11.20 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Sidious Dei on 20/11/2006 16:48:51
 Originally by: Joop
It is PvP .. and yes its fun for me.
believing this is pvp is a misconception. What this is, is no more than mass-ganking players who dont even know their way around EVE yet.
And considering this to be "fun" is sad.
It also reflect a part of your personality towards other players.
Think about that.
Id rather take pride in tackling big ships in frigs in a intense battle than a easy-to-kill bantam pilot.
But hey, its your chosen path.
-Scientia Est Potentia
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DarkElf
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.11.20 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sidious Dei
Edited by: Sidious Dei on 20/11/2006 16:52:25
Edited by: Sidious Dei on 20/11/2006 16:48:51
Originally by: Joop
It is PvP .. and yes its fun for me.
Believing this is pvp is a misconception. What this is, is no more than mass PKing players who dont even know their way around EVE yet.
And considering this to be "fun" is sad.
It also reflects a part of your personality towards other players.
Think about that.
Id rather take pride in tackling big ships in frigs in a intense battle than a easy-to-kill bantam pilot.
What you do equals killing beatles with a 10 kg sledgehammer.
But hey, its your chosen path.
pvp = player versus player so unless they're afk then it's pvp. ppl's fun is different so nobody can tell someone what they should or shouldn't do.
Also for ppl saying it's not challenging u should try taking on 12 noobs in bs, bc's and cruisers alone in a bs. it's certainly a challenge and great fun.
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Sidious Dei
Gallente
Solid Ind.
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Posted - 2006.11.20 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Sidious Dei on 20/11/2006 22:14:11
Originally by: DarkElf
pvp = player versus player so unless they're afk then it's pvp. ppl's fun is different so nobody can tell someone what they should or shouldn't do.
I am not telling people what to do.
Im stating my opinion here, and it doesnt bother me if others dont like it.
As for this debate: several threads have been made like this and the discussion is never settled, never will be.
I dont intend to be definitive here either.
To me, you can only speak of pvp when both players mutually agree to engage combat.
Otherwise its simple ganking.
To me thats lame when it concerns older players versus cubs.
I completely agree that this should stay ingame however since its part of eve mechanics, all I simply dislike is targetting those that are obviously too weak and experienced to be called worthy opponents.
Just my 2 cents.
-Scientia Est Potentia
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Panshin Bolo
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.11.20 22:43:00 -
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This thread is bookmarked for when I wanna have fun with griefer-corps. They're the most fun to be had in empire-wars. <3.
1. they can't kill any descent targets.
2. they want a fight. (some hide like chucklars stab-family)
result: some **** fine kills on my end. Without being called names. 
Grief on !
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Joop
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2006.11.21 08:45:00 -
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Edited by: Joop on 21/11/2006 08:45:12
Originally by: Panshin Bolo
This thread is bookmarked for when I wanna have fun with griefer-corps. They're the most fun to be had in empire-wars. <3.
1. they can't kill any descent targets.
2. they want a fight. (some hide like chucklars stab-family)
result: some **** fine kills on my end. Without being called names.
Grief on !
Originally by: tiller
my game style is to destroy everything I can with total disrespect for peoples property and own game style.
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Joop
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2006.11.21 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sidious Dei
Edited by: Sidious Dei on 20/11/2006 22:14:11
Originally by: DarkElf
pvp = player versus player so unless they're afk then it's pvp. ppl's fun is different so nobody can tell someone what they should or shouldn't do.
I am not telling people what to do.
Im stating my opinion here, and it doesnt bother me if others dont like it.
As for this debate: several threads have been made like this and the discussion is never settled, never will be.
I dont intend to be definitive here either.
To me, you can only speak of pvp when both players mutually agree to engage combat.
Otherwise its simple ganking.
To me thats lame when it concerns older players versus cubs.
I completely agree that this should stay ingame however since its part of eve mechanics, all I simply dislike is targetting those that are obviously too weak and experienced to be called worthy opponents.
Just my 2 cents.
Good that it dont bother you 
Your reply here says otherwise.
But as i stated above .. For me its fun and whatever other people think about it .. i do not really care tbh.
And dont come with the argument that my personality is bad or something because you dont know me at all.
Nuff said
nuff said
Originally by: tiller
my game style is to destroy everything I can with total disrespect for peoples property and own game style.
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Sidious Dei
Gallente
Solid Ind.
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Joop
Good that it dont bother you
Your reply here says otherwise.
I see reading isnt your strongest point.
I said it doesn't bother me if my opinion is disliked.
I said what bothers me is people who actually consider killing new players to be fun and entertaining.
And my reply was quite clear on that.
Originally by: Joop
But as i stated above .. For me its fun and whatever other people think about it .. i do not really care tbh.
That's your good right.
Originally by: Joop
And dont come with the argument that my personality is bad or something because you dont know me at all.
Nuff said
nuff said
Once again, reading isnt your strongest point.
I never said your personality is bad, I said that you need to think how you can affect the enjoyment factor for new, paying players.
Id rather let the new players develop well and THEN shoot em to bits once they got the mechanics down and when they have a decent chance to properly defend themselves, instead of podding defenseless victims who hardly know that F1 actives one of their modules.
The pay-off is greater when you actually have to put up a fight.
I do agree however, that battling in a 3 vs 10 setting you can speak of a good battle (as long as it isnt 3 battleships vs 10 Ibis¦).
And as far as knowing you goes: I don't need to know you to see how you respond and behave to the smaller players.
Your replies serve me well enough to give me a glimpse of your personality.
-Scientia Est Potentia
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Abrivard
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Posted - 2006.11.21 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Abrivard on 21/11/2006 22:25:44
It is great fun until a noob gets smart enough and instead of paying your ransom they hire a mercenary corp to wtfpwn your sorry axes.
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Jayd Ro
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:45:00 -
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Hello its me again 
We declared a war against an Allyance today, till now 3 corps have left the allyance 
I heared that its petitionable when they join the ally after the war again ?
Does anyone know something more ? And maybe have a Quote for me or something ?
Would be great.
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FalconHawk
Amarr
Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.02 09:54:00 -
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... wondering why you are so scared to post with your main ...
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Rikkard Strofeldt
Gallente
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.02 11:50:00 -
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Well, when my first corp got war decced, all us wet-behind-the-ears newbs went "crap, better start training to fight!".
Do the newbs a favour. Wardec them all :)
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50freefly
Caldari
Purify
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Posted - 2006.12.03 13:31:00 -
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Killing new players, haha, fun. Haha.
Originally by: Eight Ace
For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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Sean Dillon
Caldari
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.12.03 15:02:00 -
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You dont get booted for war deccing.
We wardec carebears all the time.
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Jirai Grepher
Gallente
Discordant Provisions
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Posted - 2006.12.03 23:17:00 -
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I dunno...i found the best experiance i had learning PvP was going out in frigs and being a tackler for more experianced pvpers.
Back in the day on my first char..i had a solo podkill before even reaching 500k SP.
god i miss those days of the CA - SA war.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.12.04 08:56:00 -
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if i wasnt in an alliance id dec you right now for being a general lamer and extortioner :)
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Kagura Nikon
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Posted - 2006.12.04 09:29:00 -
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As i understood he was not talking about popin ibisis. You know there are plenety of ravens in noob corps and mission carebear corps in high sec. Perfect targets taht are very well able to defend themselves.
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Dr Methanta
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Posted - 2006.12.04 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tiberious Marz
Not only is it fun it is educational. EVE IS PVP, and no better time to learn it then your first few days. So they should be thankfull.
Yeah right.... just like picking on the little kids at school makes you a tough guy.
And given the nature of some of those 'WarDecc' corps it should be an exploit - i've yet to be involved in any war that involves players who have spent less than 2.5 years in eve. I've been itching for a proper war but its largely an excuse for pirates.
At least two of those groups have used exploits of corp joing/leaving to avoid having to fight the experienced members, and rejoined only when they have located our newbie players.
Funny how in the 5 wars i've been in the casualites have been the newest players. If you wanna war come out and fight.
Don't ***** around getting cheap and easy kill mails.
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Electric Cucumber
Amarr
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2006.12.04 17:55:00 -
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two rules
1/do what you think is fun
2/ignore what people think of what you do 
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Xoria Krint
The Movement
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Posted - 2006.12.04 23:22:00 -
[49]
It's not lame. I would never do it since i enjoy the adrenaline of the real fights. But if you enjoy it and learn from it, Then hell, Do it..
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My Movies
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Kent Nord
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Posted - 2006.12.05 01:10:00 -
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Unfortunately, no.
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