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Jayd Ro
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Posted - 2006.11.19 00:55:00 -
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Hello,
my corp do empire wars against carebear and noob corps to have fun and ransom them for stopping the war. Can we get Banned because griefing ?
found this http://kb.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=267
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Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.19 01:03:00 -
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No it is not bannable. Enjoy =============================================== And Scoundrelus walked the Forums once again, and all was turned to flame... |

Beringe
Caldari Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.11.19 01:11:00 -
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It is not against the rules, but it is lame. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |

Jayd Ro
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Posted - 2006.11.19 01:15:00 -
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Thanks 
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Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.19 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe It is not against the rules, but it is lame.
Lame but fun, and the 15$ a month goes to having fun. =============================================== And Scoundrelus walked the Forums once again, and all was turned to flame... |

DubanFP
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.19 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 19/11/2006 02:09:53 Edited by: DubanFP on 19/11/2006 02:09:30
Originally by: Beringe It is not against the rules, but it is lame.
agreed, get a challange. If you can't take an experienced corp/alliance, maybe that experienced corp/alliance should take you see how it feels then. Simply put, just kinda sad at best. Not much difference between this and popping those 1 day old newbs that don't know better then to open cargo container. __________________________ Why babelfish is bad mmm k "which the night do not expect that it calls the primary education before becoming deformed inside" |

Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.19 02:14:00 -
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Generally known as extortions; kinda common, frequently frowned upon, but an important part of the game nonetheless. Not bannable.
My views are my own etc etc |

Tiberious Marz
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Posted - 2006.11.19 02:21:00 -
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Not only is it fun it is educational. EVE IS PVP, and no better time to learn it then your first few days. So they should be thankfull.
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.19 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tiberious Marz Not only is it fun it is educational. EVE IS PVP, and no better time to learn it then your first few days. So they should be thankfull.
QFT.
One of my initial noob/carebear corps got war decced. At first I was really ****ed, but it opened up a side of the game I hadn't yet experienced, and in the end thoroughly enjoyed.
My views are my own etc etc |

Grape Juice
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.19 03:09:00 -
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I disagree.
When you're in a newb corp and everyone around you is a newb, you don't learn anything by getting war decced by people who've been playing for a long time. Unless of course, those people decide to feel pity on you and tell you what you did wrong... All you do is lose ships.
Now, joining a corp who knows what they're doing PvP-wise will teach you a helluva lot more than trying to figure everything out with a bunch of other people who are equally as clueless. Sure, it might be more satisfying to 'learn the hard way'... if you're masochistic.
Anyway, back to the original topic... Is it griefing? Yeah, I think so. Would I pop an Ibis mining in 0.4? You bet your sweet ass I would... I like pretty explosions, and newbs add a whole other flavor to them.
(I know I sound like I'm contradicting myself, but I'm not really.)
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.19 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: G*****Juice I disagree.
When you're in a newb corp and everyone around you is a newb, you don't learn anything by getting war decced by people who've been playing for a long time. Unless of course, those people decide to feel pity on you and tell you what you did wrong... All you do is lose ships.
I dunno about you but I learn from my mistakes without having to be told what my mistakes were and hand-held through the process of fixing them.
My corp got wardecced when we were new and we learned a crazy amount from it.
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velocoraptor
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.19 06:10:00 -
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"lame" "griefing" etc don't rly mean anything tbh. Can tricks are lame? What about gate snipping noobs in low sec, in T2 mega with stabs? A 2-3 yrs old pirate ganking a noob hauler or cruiser in a 0.4 belt?
What about gate 0.0 gate camps with bubbles. I have died 1-2 times to those and latelly I have killed many many ppl while being the camper: 5-50 ppl, mostly old experienced players, snipers, dictors, inties gank a lone (maybe not noob) guy at a gate.... easy as hell usually. Is that lame? Even a cruiser killing a BS when the cruiser pilot is 2003 with eleventy billion SP and knows what he's doing while the BS is a noob mission-*****, a bit over-confident, could be considered lame...
It's a game and only CCP can say what is allowed and what's not. Rest is bull and any player knows deep inside him how 'good', 'honorable' or 'lame' he, or better, his play style, is
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slothe
Caldari Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.19 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe It is not against the rules, but it is lame.
agree.
fight someone that can fight back tbh.
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Grape Juice
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.19 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: G*****Juice on 19/11/2006 10:44:23 .
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Mathias Orsen
Gold-dust
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Posted - 2006.11.19 10:58:00 -
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what if it is 300 noobs vs one well experienced vet? you really can't consider anything "lame" when one person puts themselves in 300 to 1 odds. Noobs or not. That is actually a fairly common thing for people to do also.
Really don't see it being unusuall for a 2-4 man corp to war a whole alliance, or three. Sure the fee would run you 150m per week.. but against 3 alliances, You never run outta people to kill and loot to collect. -------------------------------------- ---"What's in your wallet?"--- "There are two kinds of respect, fear and admiration.... I'll take what I can get" |

Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.19 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Plaetean on 19/11/2006 11:37:26
Originally by: G*****Juice I disagree.
When you're in a newb corp and everyone around you is a newb, you don't learn anything by getting war decced by people who've been playing for a long time...
Now, joining a corp who knows what they're doing PvP-wise will teach you a helluva lot more than trying to figure everything out with a bunch of other people who are equally as clueless.
Well you learn not to join a corp full of newbs for starters.
My views are my own etc etc |

Efface Vein
SUBLIME L.L.C
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Posted - 2006.11.19 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: velocoraptor and any player knows deep inside him how 'good', 'honorable' or 'lame' he, or better, his play style, is
Well said...
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ASIV TRE
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:20:00 -
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I wasn't aware Npc corps could declare war on people 
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Saint Schala
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.20 02:28:00 -
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i think its an alt cos the main is a wee bit scared of people finding out who he is
anyhoos empire wars rock yarrrr -----------------------------------------------
23453457 dont ya just hate not knowing the meaning behind a cryptic sig???? 34564556890 |

Ferocious FeAr
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.20 05:55:00 -
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Noob corps being war dec'd... I can see it now, the ibis zerg rush of doom. __________________________________ Don't hate me, learn to love me. |

westernstab
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Posted - 2006.11.20 06:22:00 -
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IT IS LAME. but anyone with half a brain should be able to avoid it. transfer corp to a alt CEO and have everyone hide in the rookie corps for awhile. bored pirates move on and will likely release the war dec thinking they caused the corp to disband with ina week or so of it only have 1 person.
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Joop
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2006.11.20 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe It is not against the rules, but it is lame.
Who cares .. Its fun 
Originally by: tiller
my game style is to destroy everything I can with total disrespect for peoples property and own game style.
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kill0rbunny
Caldari Chimera Intelligence Agency
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Posted - 2006.11.20 11:00:00 -
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War decs on noob corps are indeed a bit lame.
But not half as lame as posting this on the forum asking if they could get banned and using an alt for it.
Are you afraid of being wardecced yourself? Put a skirt on.  _____________________________ Hugh. |

DarkElf
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.11.20 11:16:00 -
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Posting with alts because ur afraid of ppl knowing what you do in game is so lame 
And dec'ing noobs is pathetic if you have like a 100man corp or something but as said before if u are just a handful then it can be great fun to take on odds of 10v3 etc and still triumph due to experience and skill.
Also can be a good way of making isk and if ppl say it's griefing then so be it. ig u enjoy it then what does it matter?
DE
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The Protagonist
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Posted - 2006.11.20 11:26:00 -
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Been on the recieving end of war dec's in my previous corp. Sadly its become the norm with the sole purpose to inflate ego's and smak talk to the little guys.
It is educational provided you have access to a veteran player or two to give advice or even make a corp alt to help. - just fitting your ships properly helps.
had some of the best fun in eve attacking 3 year old chars in 200mil ships which were expecting an easy gank with a swarm of frigs with strong EW. Not only fun but educational too. as a bonus the pirate corp attacking us didn't smak despite our ceo doing his best to smak talk the entire of eve at the time.
It did slow our abilities to get into bigger ships which may have been a good thing; but at the time was a bit frustraiting.
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Sidious Dei
Gallente Solid Ind.
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Posted - 2006.11.20 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: Sidious Dei on 20/11/2006 12:00:42 Yes, its lame. Indeed, get a challenge. Sure EVE is pvp, but this isnt pvp - its simple PK-ing when you kill those who canŠt even fight back due to inexperience and such.
I agree that the monthly fee is spent on fun, but if you rate this as fun... You might as well buy 15 shuttles, eject from all of them, let em float in mid-air and grab your Raven and shoot em down. yay.
-Scientia Est Potentia
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Sidious Dei
Gallente Solid Ind.
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Posted - 2006.11.20 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sidious Dei on 20/11/2006 11:59:50
****ed double posting
-Scientia Est Potentia
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Joop
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2006.11.20 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sidious Dei Edited by: Sidious Dei on 20/11/2006 12:00:42 Yes, its lame. Indeed, get a challenge. Sure EVE is pvp, but this isnt pvp - its simple PK-ing when you kill those who canŠt even fight back due to inexperience and such.
I agree that the monthly fee is spent on fun, but if you rate this as fun... You might as well buy 15 shuttles, eject from all of them, let em float in mid-air and grab your Raven and shoot em down. yay.
It is PvP .. and yes its fun for me.
Originally by: tiller
my game style is to destroy everything I can with total disrespect for peoples property and own game style.
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Joop
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2006.11.20 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sidious Dei Edited by: Sidious Dei on 20/11/2006 12:00:42
You might as well buy 15 shuttles, eject from all of them, let em float in mid-air and grab your Raven and shoot em down. yay.
Hmm yeah .. i could try that I cant fly a Raven though .. would an Apoc be oke 
Originally by: tiller
my game style is to destroy everything I can with total disrespect for peoples property and own game style.
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Agent Li
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2006.11.20 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: velocoraptor "lame" "griefing" etc don't rly mean anything tbh. Can tricks are lame?
Yes
Originally by: velocoraptor What about gate snipping noobs in low sec, in T2 mega with stabs?
Yes
Originally by: velocoraptor A 2-3 yrs old pirate ganking a noob hauler or cruiser in a 0.4 belt?
Yes
Originally by: velocoraptor What about gate 0.0 gate camps with bubbles. I have died 1-2 times to those and latelly I have killed many many ppl while being the camper: 5-50 ppl, mostly old experienced players, snipers, dictors, inties gank a lone (maybe not noob) guy at a gate.... easy as hell usually. Is that lame?
Yes
Originally by: velocoraptor Even a cruiser killing a BS when the cruiser pilot is 2003 with eleventy billion SP and knows what he's doing while the BS is a noob mission-*****, a bit over-confident, could be considered lame...[/QUOTE] Yes.
All that said, maybe "eve" is icelandic for "lame".
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