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Hobbledehoy
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Posted - 2006.11.19 17:00:00 -
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I'm thinking of becoming a pirate but I only have 1 account and I don't want to stop training on my main to get an industrial alt on the same account. So what's the viability of being a -9.9 pirate without an alt?
How many of you pirates don't have alts and how's it going for you?
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ArtemisEntreri
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.19 17:02:00 -
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You can use other people as alts, IE make them buy stuff for u
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lofty29
Praxiteles Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.19 17:33:00 -
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I tried to pirate without an alt, and failed miserably. Whenever I lost a ship, I would have to wait for my friend to come and deliver me a new one. Was annoying 
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T'Renn
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.19 17:53:00 -
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I agree with Lofty. I said in the forums here rather recently that I found having a hauler alt to be disingenuous - sort of like trying to have your cake and eat it too. However I bit the bullet, stopped training my main for a day and trained up an alt to fly an iteron m3. It's just too much of a PITA not having access to Rens.
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Hobbledehoy
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Posted - 2006.11.19 18:01:00 -
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wow it really will only take 1 day to get an alt in an iteron m3 or hoarder? I was expecting like a week.
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Gindar
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.19 18:05:00 -
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what about lowsec hubs?
ostingele in placid for example.
any lowsec mission runner haven perhaps?
maybe if pirates can work out a deal with some of the mission runners  (yarr, i pirate you mon-wed, you rip me off with 200% marked up gear thurs-friday )
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Commander Thrawn
Tarnak inc.
Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.19 18:06:00 -
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start an new account with a 2 week free trial
train him to minimum before being able to fly a badger(since you can't train a industrial on a free trial)
the pay the fee to have him transfered over to your main account. train indus to 3
and you now have an alt that fly's a badger ;)
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T'Renn
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.19 18:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Hobbledehoy
wow it really will only take 1 day to get an alt in an iteron m3 or hoarder? I was expecting like a week.
Yep you just gotta roll her right. Took her a little less than a day to fly the iteron m3 if I remember correctly and fit it with basic expanders. That is -all- she can do though.
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T'Renn
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.19 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gindar
any lowsec mission runner haven perhaps?
The lowsec market sucks where I live (heimatar).
However, amamake is a great place to mission run.
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dennyreborn
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Posted - 2006.11.19 18:31:00 -
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set up a buy order for a BS at 200% mark up region wide i am sure someone will fill it.
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El Verbatim
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Posted - 2006.11.19 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: El Verbatim on 19/11/2006 20:13:14
or use courier missions for the smaller modules that you can't get in low sec.
I even had a jaguar delivered that way into a 0.3 station (although I was surprised someone actually did it).
Give it a nice bonus, make sure the collateral covers your possible losses (and a bit more :-) ) and the stuff usually gets delivered within a day.
I have alts that can do it for me but to be honest, I'm too lazy to spend time hauling it myself.
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Snodgey2004
Mega Modal M0nkeys
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Posted - 2006.11.19 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Snodgey2004 on 19/11/2006 20:26:34
Originally by: Hobbledehoy
I'm thinking of becoming a pirate but I only have 1 account and I don't want to stop training on my main to get an industrial alt on the same account. So what's the viability of being a -9.9 pirate without an alt?
How many of you pirates don't have alts and how's it going for you?
I'm in the same situation as you and because of it have to stay above a certain security status . Only thing you can do is have access to 0.0 which I do and NPC from time to time - but getting from -10 to a reasonable state might be a bit long ? Dunno lowest I've gone is -3.8 , saying that I did make a +0.3 increase from killing a few NPC BS's in a few hours and made a wad of isk doing so , so not all bad 
Edit: While it's a pain in the behind small mods like suggested can be transported in a reaper ( any nOOb ship ) , only problem I found is when you want something bigger than a cruiser to move - it's quite easy taking a few days off to get a mammoth pilot trained on the same account ( why haven't I done it yet  ) but when you want something a bit bigger like a BC or BS you have to rely on others , and by the time it comes round to you do you even want it ?
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Hobbledehoy
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Posted - 2006.11.20 04:50:00 -
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Thanks for your responnses. I think I'm going to do it b/c I have access to 0.0 (i've spent 95% of my eve life in 0.0) and I build ships with exception to T2 frigs (i can't afford hacs although i can fly them now). I just know that I'm never going to NPC my Sec status back up .... i hate NPCing.
- Hobble
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Lillian Jones
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Posted - 2006.11.20 05:00:00 -
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Having been sub -5.0 for a while, i've found that the best way to live is simply to get some bp's of your own. This way you can build yourself the ships, usually there are enough mins on sale in the region that you can build any t1 ship easily. Modules are usually pretty easy to get
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Annya Avishnaya
Quantum Industries
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.11.20 06:19:00 -
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the other option i didn't see here is trying to get friendly with a local industrialist and try and work out a deal. I'm sure if you promise not to try and gank him/her, and you come to him when you need new ships/mods that something can be worked out. I used to have such an arrangement with a pirate corp back when i used to hang out in lowsec in my old corp.
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Nazgu'l
Gallente
Deviance Inc
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 08:56:00 -
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I know many pirates who have alts on different accounts and they haul stuff for them from high sec systems. I don't have an alt on different account, but I do have an alt who can fly Iteron mark II, and it took me less than a day to train. Also ask friends or corpmates to haul stuff for you. If you have stocked up ISK, buy more modules than just for 1 ship, because when you go the pirate way, you WILL loose ships! And as mentioned before if you have SP in Industry or willing to train them, buy BPO's and build your own stuff.
Have fun
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.20 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
I tried to pirate without an alt, and failed miserably. Whenever I lost a ship, I would have to wait for my friend to come and deliver me a new one. Was annoying
indeed you have, i know its all nice feelings going solo in a vindicator and all.
but dude, BUY a dictor or Cov Op alt as soon as you can afford it. it will time up your kills by 10.
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Thira Rans
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Posted - 2006.11.20 09:23:00 -
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People whine about the lack of prey in lowsec, whine about the carebears, think about reasons for people to move to 0.0 and so on....
Do you realize that with using alts in such a way you kill a possible interaction with other players? I would love to become a smuggler type ofr pirates in low sec, befriend with some, make enemies with others, have to bribe some, but being able to make some money with being the "alt"....
There is no in between the lines in eve. wether you are carebear, pirate or in a big corp. interaction between these parties (other than being shot) is killed....which means i hate alts....
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.20 09:58:00 -
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i pirate in low sec but keep my sec status around +3-+4 by being selective over targets (hacs and bs only) and by npcing on the side (makes decent isk too).
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PKenO
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Posted - 2006.11.20 10:11:00 -
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Revelations, 1mil sp. Gogogo!
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kill0rbunny
Caldari
Chimera Intelligence Agency
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Posted - 2006.11.20 10:51:00 -
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Alts suck.
Why is there no business in lowsec?
Because Gatecampers kill every industrial that tries to deliver goods there.
If there would be a decent market in Lowsec, more people would be there, perhaps mine to build there goods. Would make some nice pvp action out there. At the moment most PvP in Lowsec happens at the gates with battleships and hacs.
And that is boring. 
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nexvis
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Posted - 2006.11.20 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: nexvis on 20/11/2006 10:59:39
Originally by: Hobbledehoy
wow it really will only take 1 day to get an alt in an iteron m3 or hoarder? I was expecting like a week.
Even less than that.
Start an amarr character, start with frigate 3 and whatever else, it doesnt really matter. Train spaceship command 3 (right?), amarr industrial 2, mechanic 1, hull upgrades 1, navigation 1, afterburner 1. BAM, 18 hour 10.3k m3 hauler alt, can fly you in cruisers with unnamed t1 expanders. best 18 hours you'll ever spend training.
Hauler alts are especially useful for luring noobcorp members into mining parties in your resident low sec 
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GenePool Chlorinator
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Posted - 2006.11.20 12:02:00 -
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I went one better than the standard alt...
I have a second account with an industrialist / trader and I moved that character out to 0.0 with me. I've made it his mission in life to create a market that will keep everyone in the area from having to go back to Empire space for the necessities. He also runs a hauler business on the side so I never have to make a run without some profit from it.
Having been a pirate for so long, I know most of the tricks, and so haven't found it too hard to avoid most of the traps.
My alt makes way more than my pirate, and has fun doing it. And sometimes he even gives my pirate discounts when he needs stuff...
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 12:29:00 -
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I'm a pirate and I dont have any alts whatsoever, and I manage by trying to stay above -5.0 ...recently I've moved to 0.0 again and started lowering my sec status (coming up on -3.8 \o/ ).
I don't actually have to as I've figured several ways where I can get highsec stuff, in lowsec, for the same price.
So I'm not that bothered...the sec status increase is just a luxury.
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Lanfear's Bane
Shih Yang Tong
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.20 13:07:00 -
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Alts are useful as it works both ways, you haul your loot up and bring what you need back down.
I used to use couriers etc and buddies but it really is far easier to be self reliant.
Lanfear's Bane.
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Lienzo
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Posted - 2006.11.20 16:14:00 -
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Classy pirates buy in bulk.
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.20 16:16:00 -
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You cannot be a effective pirate without one... at least IMHO. If you don't know when to run away where's the fun in that 
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Lienzo
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Posted - 2006.11.20 16:22:00 -
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Bravely bold Sir Tiller rode forth from Camelot.
He was not afraid to die, O brave Sir Tiller!
He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways,
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Tiller!
He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp,
Or to have his eyes gouged out, and his elbows broken;
To have his kneecaps split, and his body burned away;
And his limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Tiller!
His head smashed in and his heart cut out
And his liver removed and his bowels unplugged
And his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off
And his pen--
Brave Sir Tiller ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Tiller turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Tiller!
He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and ****ing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge...
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Agent Li
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2006.11.20 16:30:00 -
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I think CCP would make a lot more money if you had to pay for every alt.
That's my hint for the day...
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.20 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Li
I think CCP would make a lot more money if you had to pay for every alt.
That's my hint for the day...
I do, but the other alts I'm just trialing to see if they like the game 
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Agent Li
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2006.11.20 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: kill0rbunny
Alts suck.
Why is there no business in lowsec?
Because Gatecampers kill every industrial that tries to deliver goods there.
If there would be a decent market in Lowsec, more people would be there, perhaps mine to build there goods. Would make some nice pvp action out there. At the moment most PvP in Lowsec happens at the gates with battleships and hacs.
And that is boring.
Maybe corps should patrol the gates in lowsec, say, with a group of six. Send a small ship through first - if it gets whacked, come through the gate and waste the sniper.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
CURSED LEGION OF DOOM
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lienzo
Bravely bold Sir Tiller rode forth from Camelot.
He was not afraid to die, O brave Sir Tiller!
He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways,
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Tiller!
He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp,
Or to have his eyes gouged out, and his elbows broken;
To have his kneecaps split, and his body burned away;
And his limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Tiller!
His head smashed in and his heart cut out
And his liver removed and his bowels unplugged
And his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off
And his pen--
Brave Sir Tiller ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Tiller turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Tiller!
He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and ****ing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge...
Completely irrelevant gtfo troll. But yes alts are indeed use full scouting, bringing you ships, bait
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Tiberious Marz
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:14:00 -
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DONT USE ALTS
support your local teamsters. hire a trucker
its part of the game
alts are lame
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
CURSED LEGION OF DOOM
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tiberious Marz
DONT USE ALTS
support your local teamsters. hire a trucker
its part of the game
alts are lame
I tried to hire a hauler when I got wtf bbq'd by the security npc's when entering an 0.8 system by accident. She saw that I had a 5mill bounty on me and didn't trust me 
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Garan Savlar
Gallente
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:53:00 -
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Hobbledehoy ... if you're going to do it, do it properly!
Alts suck and alt-using "pirates" are the ultimate carebears ...  Talk about having your cake and eating it!
If you want to pirate, fine ... but don't kid yourself that you're a real pirate if you can't handle the hassle/downside that your notority brings. 
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.21 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Garan Savlar
Hobbledehoy ... if you're going to do it, do it properly!
Alts suck and alt-using "pirates" are the ultimate carebears ... Talk about having your cake and eating it!
If you want to pirate, fine ... but don't kid yourself that you're a real pirate if you can't handle the hassle/downside that your notority brings.
Fool, why make things hard for yourself ?, what is the point. Next thing you'll be saying you do all your PVP in a reaper.
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Puupuu
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.21 13:39:00 -
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Check this awesome link: http://www.celestial-horizon.net/index.php?page=altchar
A quick to train, simple hauling alt can do all your module/cruiser buying/selling.
No reason to not do it, except perhaps for some roleplaying reasons...
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T'Renn
Vale Heavy Industries
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.21 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Garan Savlar
Hobbledehoy ... if you're going to do it, do it properly!
Alts suck and alt-using "pirates" are the ultimate carebears ... Talk about having your cake and eating it!
If you want to pirate, fine ... but don't kid yourself that you're a real pirate if you can't handle the hassle/downside that your notority brings.
Maybe I would if there was a market worth a crap in lowsec. There isn't, and I still need goods, hence the alt.
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Hobbledehoy
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Posted - 2006.11.21 20:02:00 -
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haha well... thanks for the support & answers guys, but I don't think it will be a problem. I'm going to stick to high sec for 3 reasons:
1.) It helps my alliance more to bug our enemies instead of noobs.
2.) I like small ships (therefore i can't tank sentries) and it's annoying watching targets fly by me at gates
3.) I just tried it and I keep forgetting about agro time and getting fried by the sentries after successfully pirating someone at a belt...
- Hobble
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Akehno
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2006.11.21 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Hobbledehoy
3.) I just tried it and I keep forgetting about agro time and getting fried by the sentries after successfully pirating someone at a belt...
Personnally I love forced docking / undocking and gatejumps .... Give you some adrenaline ^^
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Hobbledehoy
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Posted - 2006.11.22 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Akehno
Originally by: Hobbledehoy
3.) I just tried it and I keep forgetting about agro time and getting fried by the sentries after successfully pirating someone at a belt...
Personnally I love forced docking / undocking and gatejumps .... Give you some adrenaline ^^
There's nothing forced about it if you're in a frig... You just practically instapop.
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kill0rbunny
Caldari
Chimera Intelligence Agency
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Posted - 2006.11.22 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Fool, why make things hard for yourself ?, what is the point. Next thing you'll be saying you do all your PVP in a reaper.
Because it's an exploit and completely ignores game mechanics.
There wouldn't be any problems if you wouldn't shoot down every single hauler that tries to sell stuff in lowsec.
You are in an alliance but don't manage to invite a prodder and trader corp to it that buys goods in Highsec and delivers it to lowsec for a little amount of money?
What poor alliance is that supposed to be?
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Garan Savlar
Gallente
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2006.11.22 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Fool, why make things hard for yourself ?, what is the point. Next thing you'll be saying you do all your PVP in a reaper.
Actually I do all my PvP in an Ibis.
Carebear Alert ... I like the way you call me a fool and then proceed to admit that you can't handle pressure or hardship.
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.22 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Garan Savlar
Originally by: tiller
Fool, why make things hard for yourself ?, what is the point. Next thing you'll be saying you do all your PVP in a reaper.
Actually I do all my PvP in an Ibis.
Carebear Alert ... I like the way you call me a fool and then proceed to admit that you can't handle pressure or hardship.
Can you explain what a carebear is and why I am one.
Thanks
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Vagra
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Posted - 2006.11.22 12:32:00 -
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create a quick alt on your main account train it to fly haulers in 1 day... then go back to pirating knowing you will always have an alt to haul through high sec for you
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Hobbledehoy
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Posted - 2006.11.22 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: kill0rbunny
Edited by: kill0rbunny on 22/11/2006 07:46:52
@hobble
Where are you beltpirating at? I always check the lowsec belts for a little pvp action. I always ended in 0.0 as lowsec seems to offer no good pvp situations for smaller ships pilots at all. It's a mess.
I forget the systems names but there's a lot of 0.3/0.4 west on the map of Olfeim (although you can't jump to them from olfeim). I tried it there... Found 1 mining Exequoror, ransomed it for 2 mil, he talked me down to 1 mil , then I checked out the other gates before trying to move on to the next system but i forgot about the sentries :-/.
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shodowdemon
Celtic Anarchy
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.22 15:39:00 -
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Doh!!!
Proberly best to remember your flagged, could cost you a lot of iskies one day...
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Robbie Boozecruise
Caldari
Murder of Crows
E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.11.22 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Robbie Boozecruise on 22/11/2006 15:55:12
i got ****ed off at having to get other people to haul my stuff around eve for me so i started a new account in the power of 2 promo. trained him into a occator and got him into a hulk joined him into an alliance he mines all day while i pvp and he also hauls stuff for me when i loose ships and stuff. it is great having an alt that makes 100mill isk a day for you without having to anything
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