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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.06.10 23:38:59 -
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baltec1 wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:baltec1 wrote:... Slow night and I need a distraction to stop me from buying a hat. To cover a growing bald spot? My locks are full and bouncy! I have no idea why I want it. Might be some inner britishness that makes me crave it Dr Livingstone, I presume?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Paranoid Loyd
5753
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Posted - 2015.06.10 23:41:43 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:ok 8/10 you bagged tippia and baltec The sad thing is, I don't think he is trolling.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16110
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Posted - 2015.06.10 23:44:33 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:baltec1 wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:baltec1 wrote:... Slow night and I need a distraction to stop me from buying a hat. To cover a growing bald spot? My locks are full and bouncy! I have no idea why I want it. Might be some inner britishness that makes me crave it Dr Livingstone, I presume?
More like "stop throwing those bloody spears at me"
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Paranoid Loyd
5753
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Posted - 2015.06.10 23:46:45 -
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baltec1 wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:baltec1 wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:baltec1 wrote:... Slow night and I need a distraction to stop me from buying a hat. To cover a growing bald spot? My locks are full and bouncy! I have no idea why I want it. Might be some inner britishness that makes me crave it Dr Livingstone, I presume? More like "stop throwing those bloody spears at me" I don't know about you but I much prefer pitchforks.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Pops Tickle
Tickle Industries
11
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Posted - 2015.06.11 00:12:06 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:baltec1 wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote: And that states that EVE is becoming more and more a game for pvp players and not for those that dont like pvp or the endless repeating cycles of pve.
It has always been a PvP focused game. More or less yes... but one of the big problems is that players that dont want to do pvp, is that when they do what other Things than pvp, pvp gets forced upon them, even tho they dont want to. This shows your misunderstanding of the game, nature and life itself. EVE is a PvP based game not because of combat, but because of the nature of life. The real world is PvP. The combat part comes naturally, as without combat there is no realism. Without death and loss, there is no realism. Without competition, there is no realism.
In the real world, someone can walk by, slit your throat and kill you, without you noticing until your knees hit the ground and you begin to bleed out and die. You can walk down an ally and suddenly two men stand before you, shooting you down and taking your belongings. No one is forcing PvP onto you, no. It's simply how it works. Would you argue that PvP is forced upon you in the real world? No, you wouldn't. You compete for jobs, for women, for the last beer. That's all PvP. If you wish to live in a world that is less real than this one, you should switch to a game that does not allow for such a degree of realism.
See... I am an industrialist. I mine rocks. That is PvP as well, as I compete with others for these rocks.
To sum up this surprisingly lengthy post: Someone takes the job you wanted; Takes the woman you wanted; Steals your money; Kills you on broad daylight. There is no difference to me mining your rocks away; Shooting your ship down; Podding you; Stealing your corporation's assets. That is all PvP, realism, life.
Choose life, my friend.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4981
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Posted - 2015.06.11 00:58:48 -
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EvE = Everybody vs. Everybody
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
9289
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Posted - 2015.06.11 01:33:16 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:In all, i cant say what New content should be, or for that matter, what i should hope it could be, but i do see players leaving the game more frequently than before. .... For anyone new to the forums; this subject has been beaten to death lately. well uh recently a certain gaaame lost like 3mil subs (cant say which). Been seeing this stuff in about every game forum/chat as of recent, flood of it.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
5788
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Posted - 2015.06.11 01:42:42 -
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Saw lack of content. Thought it was about rules. Leaving disappointed...
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Lulu Lunette
Custodes Olim United Systems of Aridia
25
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:22:55 -
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I'd say you're just more bored than anything. Take a break man! Keep your skillqueue going.
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Ashlar Maidstone
Moonfyre Science and Research Inc.
195
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:31:00 -
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I have found content to keep me busy for a while, but usually when I take a break is not because of for a lack of, but from doing the same ol grind again and again. But in my case I am branching out into different areas to see what kinds of content I can create not just for me, but for anyone else.
So, as others have said, interacting with others is creating content, sometimes we don't see it till we wake up back in a fresh clone. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10011
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:33:19 -
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baltec1 wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:baltec1 wrote:... Slow night and I need a distraction to stop me from buying a hat. To cover a growing bald spot? My locks are full and bouncy! I have no idea why I want it. Might be some inner britishness that makes me crave it Fire at will!
That's very nice of him.
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Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
93
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:45:09 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Was in a discussion with some previous and current eve players i know. Most of them has quit, or is about to quit, mostly due to lack of content.
It made me think abit... They are in some ways correct, EVE hasnt come up with New content that has incouraged others to reactivate their accounts or keep playing. There is no New content that makes me, or those i spoke with, wanna spend more time on EVE. And i do see that thru players i know ingame, keeps reducing their time on EVE, mainly it gives them no more "happy-juice" to keep playing.
So is it that EVE dont gives us more content, or is it me and those that over time has come to the conclusion that EVE actually has become borring?
Also, has EVE more and more been swinging into being more and more a game for mainly pvp players? A friend of mine, was a big time manufacturer and he said, he dont have the time to keep repeating the same actions over and over again, it gave him no more pleasure.
Something is for sure wrong, cuz it is not just me....
Would appreciate some pro's and con's on this.
There's no reason for PVE. Just buy a PLEX. CCP wins because they get some more of your money. PVPer win because you can afford bigger fancies to lose. You win because you don't have to play dreadful PVE content.
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
894
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Posted - 2015.06.11 03:05:47 -
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Eve is a sandbox game pvp and pve are present since day one.
Eve will always thrive more if all kinds of sand are in it .
How I see eve right now is one side of it body is pvp side it is skinny unhealthy so but ok.
Other side is 10 year old corpse with just a touch here or there of life.
This can't work well you need fresh blood in drowns to throw at corporations so large amount sticks and all have their kicks. ..
I am not talking about pvp and how it relates to pve crowd but rather of well balanced and executed game we all want to be in regardless of hardship the can be out there as soon,as one undock...
New(lol) sow is landig like 5 years late it will stir some cap for a time and that's it...eve will remain skinny half dead afair.
Imo.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
160
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Posted - 2015.06.11 03:12:07 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:baltec1 wrote:CCP dont make content we the players do.
Every single memorable event in the games history was made by the players and the big events in EVE make headlines around the world. No PvE spoonfed content can ever compare. The content ingame players create, are for most of it, pvp based.....
hate to break it you buddy but EvE's core is all about PvP from the beginning.
Just Add Water
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
9290
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Posted - 2015.06.11 03:16:12 -
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For me, content idea is such as a true bounty hunter system. It's been mentioned and detailed out many times, no need to get into it. At least the write ups not involving NPC hunting, PvP would only fit imo. I had fun times with such a system... I cannot say where, but the delicious jedi tears were truly glorious Frack you John Smedley |
Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
228
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Posted - 2015.06.11 03:28:29 -
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As I'm sure the regular chorus was quick to point out, there has been new content - the wormhole universe mainly, burner missions, incursions....but all of these require a stepped-up level of ability and organization. The lacking is in the more "normal" ability and low to mid range experience/skill missions (or activities).
I watched the new stuff introduced, tweaked, well-received, and applauded it all as significant milestone attainment in gaming. Which it is/was. However, there was still that nagging that EVE is short of content for the less than rabid players. Some people just don't slaver after gaming. Some people can't make EVE a career as they have actual careers, children and the like. Alas, there is nothing significant being done for these. All the focus is so far above this sizeable group's heads, the only thing they hear is, "Find that miraculous corporation that will hold your hand and set you on the course to Oz."
So, yeah. This is all quite true. Naturally, the ones who have the game tailored to their appetites will scream, "What're you complainin' for? Do what we're doin'!" The mega-dopes to whom gaming is just ganking helpless people will chortle (in Beavis and Butthead style) "Heh heh heh, what's your problem? Are you a MINER?" All this is none of CCP's concern, even though CCP is being paid by everyone, not just the elite chosen few, and the braindead WoW refugees sure don't pay with real MONEY.
ALL that being said, OP, I seriously doubt CCP will ever do anything about it. (Recently they've just boosted the eye candy, for instance - skins...wow.) My reading of that crew is they see themselves perched on some gaming ivory tower, and are rather condscending to the preferences of this sizeable chunk of their paying customers. They're also in the, "Don't you wish you were like me?" crowd. Don't expect any immediate miracles from them.
I survived Win95
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
9290
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Posted - 2015.06.11 03:45:07 -
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Well, good points, but there is already a large amount of PvE content enough to hold a player until they do reach "a stepped-up level of ability and organization". And they have made improvements to such content as well... well mostly, I still really disliked all the dumb changes to explorer with mini-games and kitten friendly sites. So... be careful what you wish for here |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1191
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Posted - 2015.06.11 04:23:02 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:In all, i cant say what New content should be, or for that matter, what i should hope it could be, but i do see players leaving the game more frequently than before. And i do see that the New additions are great for the hardcore players, but it dont bring back the more laidback players.
if you can't even answer what kind of content you want to see.... at least say pve/pvp something, anything!
there are still about a half dozen things I want to try. and plenty of things I'm bored of, or don't really care for.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
278
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Posted - 2015.06.11 04:50:09 -
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Webvan wrote:For me, content idea is such as a true bounty hunter system. It's been mentioned and detailed out many times, no need to get into it. At least the write ups not involving NPC hunting, PvP would only fit imo. I had fun times with such a system... I cannot say where, but the delicious jedi tears were truly glorious Frack you John Smedley
as a VIP from that game.. I send you e-hugs galore
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Squatdog
State Protectorate Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:18:26 -
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The players ARE the content. |
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
9291
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:34:28 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:Webvan wrote:For me, content idea is such as a true bounty hunter system. It's been mentioned and detailed out many times, no need to get into it. At least the write ups not involving NPC hunting, PvP would only fit imo. I had fun times with such a system... I cannot say where, but the delicious jedi tears were truly glorious Frack you John Smedley as a VIP from that game.. I send you e-hugs galore VIP? I rage quit after NGE, like 97% of the player-base did and never went back. At the point you are talking about, Smedley had already destroyed the game and it was well into it's death throes. This brought me to EVE. Yes, I'm an SWG:CU/NGE refugee here, as many are. |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
278
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:41:35 -
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Webvan wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:Webvan wrote:For me, content idea is such as a true bounty hunter system. It's been mentioned and detailed out many times, no need to get into it. At least the write ups not involving NPC hunting, PvP would only fit imo. I had fun times with such a system... I cannot say where, but the delicious jedi tears were truly glorious Frack you John Smedley as a VIP from that game.. I send you e-hugs galore VIP? I rage quit after NGE, like 97% of the player-base did and never went back. At the point you are talking about, Smedley had already destroyed the game and it was well into it's death throes. This brought me to EVE. Yes, I'm an SWG:CU/NGE refugee here, as many are.
ahh you're just a baby then.. VIP cause I sticked with it from start to end.. I got a dose of the bittervet syndrome but stuck with it till its last day.. I dread to imagine what eve would be like if that day ever came. I came here cause of their promise to support the product into the next 30 yrs or so.. but now that im here..
I miss my crafting stations. and my jedi stick, and my CH, TK, and frack you BH's to..
the bounty system change would go a long way here but you know they'll get around to it.. its somewhere on that 5 year long thing to do list of theirs.
and your numbers are skewed on its final day it still had more players than eve online could ever get still to this day. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
9291
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:59:37 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:
ahh you're just a baby then.. VIP cause I sticked with it from start to end.. I got a dose of the bittervet syndrome but stuck with it till its last day.. I dread to imagine what eve would be like if that day ever came. I came here cause of their promise to support the product into the next 30 yrs or so.. but now that im here..
I miss my crafting stations. and my jedi stick, and my CH, TK, and frack you BH's to..
the bounty system change would go a long way here but you know they'll get around to it.. its somewhere on that 5 year long thing to do list of theirs.
and your numbers are skewed on its final day it still had more players than eve online could ever get still to this day.
You are one of the three people that stuck around after the NGE patch. Your "VIP" is because it eventually went f2p to milk what ever left it could get out of you before shutting down. NGE was absolutely craptastical, in fact not event that good as it was a total abandonment of the existing player base for one they only hoped to get one day. It was an abandoned game, no one played, apart from f2p players later. Biggest fail in the mmo industry, well noted, well documented. Took many years for Smedely to actually apologize for what he did, but imo one is better off to trust a cactus.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
279
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Posted - 2015.06.11 06:40:52 -
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Webvan wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:
ahh you're just a baby then.. VIP cause I sticked with it from start to end.. I got a dose of the bittervet syndrome but stuck with it till its last day.. I dread to imagine what eve would be like if that day ever came. I came here cause of their promise to support the product into the next 30 yrs or so.. but now that im here..
I miss my crafting stations. and my jedi stick, and my CH, TK, and frack you BH's to..
the bounty system change would go a long way here but you know they'll get around to it.. its somewhere on that 5 year long thing to do list of theirs.
and your numbers are skewed on its final day it still had more players than eve online could ever get still to this day.
You are one of the three people that stuck around after the NGE patch. Your "VIP" is because it eventually went f2p to milk what ever left it could get out of you before shutting down. NGE was absolutely craptastical, in fact not event that good as it was a total abandonment of the existing player base for one they only hoped to get one day. It was an abandoned game, no one played, apart from f2p players later. Biggest fail in the mmo industry, well noted, well documented. Took many years for Smedely to actually apologize for what he did, but imo one is better off to trust a cactus.
umm buddy you're getting SWG mixed up with SWTOR.. SWG NEVER went f2p.. SWTOR did 6 months after launch cause they tried forcing us SWG players there.. which failed faster than bioware/ea imagined..
go check your facts pls.. you quit like several years before we even shut down, you most likely have no idea what went on, we even had atmospheric flight in-game and working.. eve has yet to even go there.. but either way it was a great 8 years.
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Kaydance
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.06.11 06:57:46 -
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Sounds like boredom, nothing will keep you entertained forever unless you're simple, thankfully I am but you may not be so blessed. I could happily ship spin for another 10 years.
Reminds me of that John Mellencamp song:
"Oh yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of living is gone."
All the "new" content in the world won't keep you interested forever, after all it is just the same mechanic in a different package. |
Luca Lure
Obertura
38
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Posted - 2015.06.11 07:25:51 -
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Pops Tickle wrote:...You compete for jobs, for women, for the last beer. That's all PvP.
Well, i think with women, i've used pay to win for years now.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
9294
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Posted - 2015.06.11 07:43:40 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:
umm buddy you're getting SWG mixed up with SWTOR.. SWG NEVER went f2p.. SWTOR did 6 months after launch cause they tried forcing us SWG players there.. which failed faster than bioware/ea imagined..
go check your facts pls.. you quit like several years before we even shut down, you most likely have no idea what went on, we even had atmospheric flight in-game and working.. eve has yet to even go there.. but either way it was a great 8 years.
Actually it was just a free play at the end, I got the memo. I know what went on, and I followed it's active accounts reports such as CCP does with EVE. The day they released NGE is the day it went into it's death throes. Servers died that day, and for the month my sub was still active it was virtually 0 people in the game. What few played after that were station all access members, just taking a break from their fail EQ2 and kittenized EQ1 gaming. In one single day, all the servers went from very full and active to empty. Eventually they offered you NGE players transfers to populate one or two servers. The lead dev eventually apologized for what he had done to destroy the game with NGE. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Galaxies WiS and trading card games, and WoW style battlegrounds is something EVE does not need. "in July 2012, John Smedley admitted to "stupid decisions" regarding Star Wars Galaxies combat upgrade and new gaming enhancement policies" Stupid is an understatement. |
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus
197
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:03:42 -
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Squatdog wrote:The players ARE the content.
Since players ARE the content and the players create their own content, shouldnt then EVE open up for players creating the content they want or desires and not be bound by the limitations of the content that allready exist? |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
986
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:05:57 -
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yeah. game is interceptors online now, not a lot to kill anymore. Basically stopped spending tons of time on eve at that point. |
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus
197
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:06:19 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Saw lack of content. Thought it was about rules. Leaving disappointed...
Ill make a thread later about rules just to please you, and ill make sure ull leave dissapointed again :D
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