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GinoShin
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:18:00 -
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Im tempted to start, I have 2b to spend and would like to buy a thantos and some faction kit. How long did it take people to train all lvl's to 4?
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chispita
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:36:00 -
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use evemon
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GinoShin
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: GinoShin on 21/11/2006 11:41:44 whats evemon is it like a jamican wiseman?
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Buraken v2
Amarr Amarr Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:43:00 -
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You dont know what EVEmon is? What are you nuts?! 
No, really, its a very nice skillplanning tool, once you use it you are hooked! You can find it HERE.
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Kujo MoJojo
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:51:00 -
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I dont trust EVEmon it asks for youe password and trys to log in for you to look at your skills god knows what it then does with that password 
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ClogMan
Caldari Caldari Anvil Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:53:00 -
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You dont have to login. Use the alternative method and download your Skill.xml file from "My character" webpage, and put it in the Evemon folder and just load it from there.
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:54:00 -
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I think the number of people who do use EVEMon speaks for itself. Then there's the fact that it's open source, which makes it safe since anyone can look at the source code and see that your password isn't being sent to anything but CCP's servers for retrieval of your character data. Of course it's your prerogative not to use it if you don't trust it, but I and many, many people use it with no problem at all. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
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Lain Khazar
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Lain Khazar on 21/11/2006 11:59:14
Originally by: Kujo MoJojo I dont trust EVEmon it asks for youe password and trys to log in for you to look at your skills god knows what it then does with that password 
Bull****.
Other like the older tool to plan your skills (don't remember the name - eve charmanager or something like this?) you can easily import the XML-file by your own. No need to enter your logindata, just choose the other option.
-- A alternative way of living... WTB: avatar-pic (this char is about 8 month old and still doesn't have a avatar-pic ) |

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:57:00 -
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About 2 hours. -----
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.11.21 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kujo MoJojo I dont trust EVEmon it asks for youe password and trys to log in for you to look at your skills god knows what it then does with that password 
Thers no reason for any mistrust.
The evemon source code is public, and several programming-literate people from the community have looked it over and given it the all clear, have a look yourself...
Not everyone is out to get you you know. ----- Move along, nothing to see here... |

Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2006.11.21 12:42:00 -
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Download at Battleclinic... I think the link is the former company that just dissapeared...
Pinky
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trimdonite
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Posted - 2006.11.21 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: GinoShin Edited by: GinoShin on 21/11/2006 11:41:44 whats evemon is it like a jamican wiseman?
lolololol
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Kamazani
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.11.21 13:19:00 -
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i HAD to put that in a sig! --------------------------- by: GinoShin on 21/11/2006 11:41:44 whats evemon is it like a jamican wiseman? |

Jernau Gurgeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.21 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: GinoShin Im tempted to start, I have 2b to spend and would like to buy a thantos and some faction kit. How long did it take people to train all lvl's to 4?
That 2 billion won't go very far if you haven't already bought the skills.
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Anders Chydenius
Phoenix Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.21 14:13:00 -
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Please download the new version at Battleclinic, not the one linked earlier in the thread, it keeps me from going crazy when people post "it's broken" with the old version.
Originally by: Kujo MoJojo I dont trust EVEmon it asks for youe password and trys to log in for you to look at your skills god knows what it then does with that password 
Ow, you hurt my feeling.
Anyway, I'll tell you what we do with that password! Evemon collects your computer use patterns to determine when you play eve, then, when you're asleep, we log in to your characters, fly to one of your bases and wreck up the place. We unload T2 modules from your ships, refine them, and then trash the results. We fly your CNR out to an asteroid belt and then eject. Sometimes, there are exotic dancers.
No, seriously, your password is stored in a super-secret encrypted format. We couldn't get your password if we wanted to, that's the way the program is written. EVEMon connects to exactly 3 places, 4 if you use the email alert feature:
Tranquility, to monitor server status Battleclinic, to get updates (1.4 coming soon!) Eve-Online, to get your character xml <-- the only one that uses your password
If you don't trust it, download the character xml, make your plan, and go from there. It works just fine in offline mode.
------ {o,o} (__(| -"-"- EVEMon - The open source Jamaican wiseman. |

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.21 14:24:00 -
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From scratch? Carrier takes a while :)
I run out of space if I copy and paste the skill list, but firing up a noskill alt on EVEMon says 330 days to skill up. This is including learning skills (they make a 250day difference).
You'll probably do it a bit faster with more optimal stats, and of course, I'm assuming you're starting a bit higher up the latter than 20k sps.
Capital ships _all_ take a long time. Advanced Spaceship Command 5 = 27 days Battleship 5 = 45 days Jump Drive operation 5 = 27 days Tactical Shield manipulation 5 = 20 days Drone interfacing 5 = 30 days.
The capital skills themselves are sufficiently high rank that even a level 4 takes notable amounts of time, e.g. Carrier 4 is about 28 days, with 5 being 160 days.
Basically, I've been at capital training for ... several months, and I'm looking at being capable in about march.
You can get away with less skills on a carrier, provided you're not 'stressing' it - e.g. sitting at a POS and delegating fighters, but it's still not a short train.
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Puupuu
mUfFiN fAcToRy Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.21 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Buraken v2 nuts?!
The latest version is now located in http://evemon.battleclinic.com/
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GinoShin
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.11.21 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus From scratch? Carrier takes a while :)
I run out of space if I copy and paste the skill list, but firing up a noskill alt on EVEMon says 330 days to skill up. This is including learning skills (they make a 250day difference).
You'll probably do it a bit faster with more optimal stats, and of course, I'm assuming you're starting a bit higher up the latter than 20k sps.
Capital ships _all_ take a long time. Advanced Spaceship Command 5 = 27 days Battleship 5 = 45 days Jump Drive operation 5 = 27 days Tactical Shield manipulation 5 = 20 days Drone interfacing 5 = 30 days.
The capital skills themselves are sufficiently high rank that even a level 4 takes notable amounts of time, e.g. Carrier 4 is about 28 days, with 5 being 160 days.
Basically, I've been at capital training for ... several months, and I'm looking at being capable in about march.
You can get away with less skills on a carrier, provided you're not 'stressing' it - e.g. sitting at a POS and delegating fighters, but it's still not a short train.
Ok I downloaded the Jamican wise mans tool onto my main account and it says 128 days and says he sell me something to make the time go faster ;O
thanks for the help
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente CURSED LEGION OF DOOM Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.21 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: GinoShin
Originally by: James Lyrus From scratch? Carrier takes a while :)
I run out of space if I copy and paste the skill list, but firing up a noskill alt on EVEMon says 330 days to skill up. This is including learning skills (they make a 250day difference).
You'll probably do it a bit faster with more optimal stats, and of course, I'm assuming you're starting a bit higher up the latter than 20k sps.
Capital ships _all_ take a long time. Advanced Spaceship Command 5 = 27 days Battleship 5 = 45 days Jump Drive operation 5 = 27 days Tactical Shield manipulation 5 = 20 days Drone interfacing 5 = 30 days.
The capital skills themselves are sufficiently high rank that even a level 4 takes notable amounts of time, e.g. Carrier 4 is about 28 days, with 5 being 160 days.
Basically, I've been at capital training for ... several months, and I'm looking at being capable in about march.
You can get away with less skills on a carrier, provided you're not 'stressing' it - e.g. sitting at a POS and delegating fighters, but it's still not a short train.
Ok I downloaded the Jamican wise mans tool onto my main account and it says 128 days and says he sell me something to make the time go faster ;O
thanks for the help
Did you consider the skills for Drone control units? Capital Armor reppers? Capital energy/shield transfers ? Jump Drive skills? Capital Fitting Skills? im sure in 128 days that 2 billion your spending will go pop. I'll gladly take the isk off your hands if you don't know what to do with it ^_^ (also the carrier skill alone is 460 mill)
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StarLite
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.21 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: StarLite on 21/11/2006 17:24:02 The skills alone will cost you 1 Bil The ship will cost you 900 Mil You have 2 Bil So where are the faction items coming into place? ;)
And expect to spend about 1 year for all the skills you need [you would need about 10 mil SP all in all]. Stuff like BS 5, advanced spaceship control 5 etc tend to take over a month each :)
Capial Armour repair systems 9,000,000.00 Capial Remote Armour repair systems 15,750,000.00 Capital Energy Emission Systems 9,000,000.00 Capital Shield Emission Systems 9,000,000.00 Jump Drive Operation 9,000,000.00 Jump Drive Calibration 27,000,000.00 Jump Fuel Conservation 18,000,000.00 Advanced Drone Interfacing 13,500,000.00 Fighters 45,000,000.00 Advanced Spaceship Command 45,000,000.00 Capital Ships 360,000,000.00 Gallente Carrier 450,000,000.00 _________________________________________________ Total 1,010,250,000.00
And don't forget the alt you will *NEED* to move you around, cus you cannot use gates ;) _______________________________________________________________________
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