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Shayla Sh'inlux
Gallente The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.11.21 19:21:00 -
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Would you guys PLEASE get serious about paying attention to the 8 to 10 percent of your customers who have some degree of color vision impairment?
Yes, it's nearly 10 percent of your player base.
When color is a critical part of your interface, it's ESSENTIAL that you choose colors that are high-contrast to folks with moderate color vision problems. (The profoundly color blind are harder to help, but the common red-green deficiency is easy to work around, if you care.)
Not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but since they all look pretty much the same now (some are even identical) why can't you just remember the order, show info or post-it on your monitor like you do now?
Originally by: "Cy4n1d3"
You can't PVP with 4 mids.
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U Fester
Amarr dante's enterprises
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Posted - 2006.11.21 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Uriel Garnach Seriously it makes me feel ill. You might as well name them anti-minmatar anti-caldari anti-amarr... it would be just as silly and not make me nauceous.
If you are going to be a EW pilot your are going to have to learn how to set them up anyway. Dammit ;)
Is there any likelihood of them adding a symbol to help distinguish between the four? To me they are all the same color and there isn't much of a difference from the last of just the symbol.
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Flaming sambuka
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.11.21 21:33:00 -
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ROFL, IS THIS A JOKE? SERIOUSLY, A JOKE?
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Gnobe
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.11.21 21:39:00 -
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Freakin' awesome, love it lol.
-Gnobe
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kbullet
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.11.21 21:52:00 -
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that's quite useful! it is kinda annoying to differ which racial is which atm, i have to move it around mid/low/high configuration, but this is cool! thanks ccp
p.s. stop whining
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Audrea
Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.11.21 21:54:00 -
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I just love this change! looks awesome, although I would change the Caldari color into grey.. it fits their personality! ------------------ Its great not being an Amarr, aint it? Save Tranquility! |
Viqer Fell
Minmatar Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.11.21 21:56:00 -
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I personally feel that it look sbloody awful. It really is dumbing down Eve to cater for lazy pilots but in a way that detracts from the game. I appreciate that many people will see this as a good move but i would offer an alternative auggestion that might be more acceptable to people without the need for the awful colours.
Re-do the icons for jammers. Have maybe the multispecs have same symbol as now, then the racials could have a diff shaped centre to the icon so instead of the circle you could have a diamond, a triangle a star etc. Just a thought.
To me that would be more acceptable whilst still helping the ew pilots that can't be bothered to remember what they fitted on their ships.
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Tunajuice
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Posted - 2006.11.21 22:25:00 -
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Good change, if you don't like it play in black and white.
it's obviously a poor UI if you would need to mouse-over an icon to tell it apart from the next icon. Any first year computer programmer could tell you that.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.21 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Viqer Fell I personally feel that it look sbloody awful. It really is dumbing down Eve to cater for lazy pilots but in a way that detracts from the game. I appreciate that many people will see this as a good move but i would offer an alternative auggestion that might be more acceptable to people without the need for the awful colours.
Re-do the icons for jammers. Have maybe the multispecs have same symbol as now, then the racials could have a diff shaped centre to the icon so instead of the circle you could have a diamond, a triangle a star etc. Just a thought.
To me that would be more acceptable whilst still helping the ew pilots that can't be bothered to remember what they fitted on their ships.
Disable colors on your monitor and STFU.
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Krist Valentine
Amarr Freelancing Opportunists
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Posted - 2006.11.21 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tanya Kovacs Edited by: Tanya Kovacs on 21/11/2006 13:37:53 Tbh I really like the intention behind this. Atm, if you are in a ECM-boat you really have to know where you placed which kind of jammer because all looks like the same, so this would be kinda helpfull. But the current result is... well next try.
QFT. There's nothing wrong with being more user-friendly, nobody likes an elitist. - - - - -
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.11.21 23:08:00 -
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How do colorblind people like this ?
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.11.21 23:18:00 -
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The ability to know at a glance which jammers are which incase you're not someone who memorizies the setup 24/7?
Sounds good to me, altho the colors are a bit bright.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Ghitza
Backup Squad
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Posted - 2006.11.21 23:45:00 -
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What about blueprints? Will we ever know which one is BPC and which one is BPO without checking sometimes x of them?
Anyway i have this feling that this game is faling down to serve carebears and total noobs... but its more $ for CCP sooo...
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Statics
A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.11.22 01:35:00 -
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This is retarded. Real ECM pilots should know what jammers do what. Change the icons maybe, but don't color-code the things. Why even have racial stats like "ladar", "radar", "grav", etc.? Just make it, "Gallente use t3h GREEN sensors, Caldari use t3h BLUE sensor technologies!" Paint by numbers for the short bus crowd.
Weak sauce.
It doesn't matter anyways as ECM has already been nerfed to uselessness (i'm even referring to the dedicated ships). Thanks! ----------
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agent apple
Syndicate Of Shadows
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Posted - 2006.11.22 01:45:00 -
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Well I suppose thats one way to reduce the use of ECM
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.22 02:04:00 -
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The EVE forum community has reached a new low- whining about the colour of module icons.
Can you say "cornflour blue"?
Seriously, what are we, middle aged women?!
All it has done is streamlined the UI- if you're too leet to appreciate this ("1 b007 EVE thru Command Prompt! 1m a r33l m4n!") then turn off your colours. EVEs UI needs all the streamlining it can get.......... -----------------------------------------------
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Flesh Eater
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Posted - 2006.11.22 02:18:00 -
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WTF? Whiners have reached a new low.
Awesome change, looks pretty good too.
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Marlenus
Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2006.11.22 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but since they all look pretty much the same now (some are even identical) why can't you just remember the order, show info or post-it on your monitor like you do now?
I can and I will. That's not quite the point.
It's easy, when designing interfaces, to choose colors that work for almost everyone. But it's rarely done.
Instead, folks with normal color vision design interfaces that are broken for about ten percent of us. Because they don't know any better. That's been CCP's consistent pattern.
Which means that I'm always working at a slight disadvantage to the folks who can glance at the screen and instantly see what's red and what's green, what's purple versus blue, what's orange versus what's yellow.
Can I cope? Sure. Can I thrive? Sure. Is it necessary? No. It's fixable in a few minutes by CCP, just by tweaking a few color values.
Which they can't do if they don't know they need to do it.
This is not whining. It's usability feedback, with a bit of an edge because it's been said a lot of times in various game contexts without ever (so far as I know) an acknowledgment by CCP that they are even aware of color vision issues with their interface.
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Kunming
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.22 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: C4rnag3 logged yesterday on SISI and i saw some new stuff:
cmon CCP, this is really kinda "Teletubbie n00b stuff" whats cummin next? green 1 dot and red 2 dot scrambler? maybee a pink 90% and violet 80% webber etc? in my opinion we have to know, where wich jammer we have fitted. plz dont make this retail. u can do this better!
if u really have to do this, change this in another type of coloration. maybee with a small "colored" dot in the middle. but not these "teletubbie stuff"
carn.
I really welcome the change.. Before I constantly got asked how to organize jammers and I told our pilots to fit them alphabetically Amarr first then Caldari, etc...
Oh and grow up some pls, if you have a complex of associating stuff with teletubies then its most probably cause of your hidden fear of homosexaulity. But I'm no expert on this so my words are as much worth as yours!
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Captain Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.22 05:29:00 -
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what color is multispectral, tho? rainbow? =[
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Daniel Jackson > a harbinger cant be a raven cause its not caldari Daniel Jackson > and its not a missle ship Jim Raynor > thank you for that expert analysis DJ
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Ghitza
Backup Squad
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Posted - 2006.11.22 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Raynor what color is multispectral, tho? rainbow? =[
Now thats what whiners are talking about. Anyway 95% of eve comunutity is lame (read that again). If they change scramblers/webs/hardners... better not.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
Minmatar Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.11.22 09:10:00 -
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I definetely like the idea, I'd have stuck with more muted Grey/rust brown/green/gold .. but thats just me . ----- It's great being Minmatar, ain't it? Apologies for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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Highway Scout
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Posted - 2006.11.22 10:56:00 -
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Isnt it rich that the op complains about "childish colors" then has numbers in his name like every l33tzor teenager out there?
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U Fester
Amarr dante's enterprises
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Posted - 2006.11.22 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sirial Soulfly How do colorblind people like this ?
They are all the same color for me. I don't mind color coating the symbols beause it will help out people, but something like an Ammar Sybmol... or an big A would help out just as well.
I am all for helping improving the game and this will help so I can't complain there, but I can hope they add a symbol as well
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Uggster
Caldari Never'where
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Posted - 2006.11.22 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Statics This is retarded. Real ECM pilots should know what jammers do what. Change the icons maybe, but don't color-code the things. Why even have racial stats like "ladar", "radar", "grav", etc.? Just make it, "Gallente use t3h GREEN sensors, Caldari use t3h BLUE sensor technologies!" Paint by numbers for the short bus crowd.
Weak sauce.
It doesn't matter anyways as ECM has already been nerfed to uselessness (i'm even referring to the dedicated ships). Thanks!
eah I agree and while your at it CCP take away information from turret show infos like tracking speed and RoF and such like, real gunners should know thier weapons instinctivly.
And while your at it remove the scanner, real pilots should be able to sniff out thier pray like bloodhounds.
Oh and while your at it.....
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Danalog
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.22 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Marlenus It's bad enough that the only way to tell if a secure can is anchored is by looking at beacon lights that flash red or green (the two colors most difficult for the color vision impaired). Please don't keep building this problem into your interface!
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I've been playing for over a year, and I never knew there was supposed to be a way to tell if cans are anchored if they don't belong to you. Hooray for color blindness =(
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.22 15:34:00 -
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Multispectrals are most likely white.
This is an aid, not a necessary distinction thingy. It's hard making up 5 different colours that's not a problem for any colour blind. That thing with the cans (by the way, isn't anchored cans distinguishable by the little ^ underneath it?) and mobile warp bubbles - should be bug reported!
A possible fix could be to add a black cheese-slice (don't know the English term for it) on top (Amarr, high nosed bastards), right (Caldari, fascist scum), bottom (Minmatar, underdogs) and left (Gallente, liberalist weirdoes) - EVE is sick. |
C4rnag3
Caldari SynchronizerZ
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Posted - 2006.11.22 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Statics This is retarded. Real ECM pilots should know what jammers do what. Change the icons maybe, but don't color-code the things.
totally agree...
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Kazuo Ishiguro
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.11.22 18:54:00 -
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Radical proposal- make various colours of icons available and let people choose which ones they want to use? ---------- An idea for helping people to appreciate ECCM |
Captain Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.22 19:24:00 -
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if theyre going to do this they should at leas make a new jammer icon that jammer icon has always been a pixelated mess tbh
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Daniel Jackson > a harbinger cant be a raven cause its not caldari Daniel Jackson > and its not a missle ship Jim Raynor > thank you for that expert analysis DJ
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