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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:23:12 -
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Just confirmed in the o7 show, fleet warps will be restricted to targets all fleet members could individually warp to like gates, celestials. For random locations, probe results and individual bookmarks you have to send the "knowing" ship there first.
What do you think?
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Krytan Reborn
Reborn PunkZ
CyberPunkZ
1
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:24:41 -
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About time, let the tears roll :P |
Tzu Wu
THORN Syndicate
Circle-Of-Two
34
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:26:30 -
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I think CCP is outdoing themselves on unnecessary changes. So, someone has probed down a wormhole and it's bm'ed, FC cant warp the fleet to it? Come on. Pro prober in fleet gets a result on an enemy fleet 200km away, cant warp fleet to them? I honestly dont see what the point of these changes are. |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1355
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:28:51 -
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This is the CSM's doing.
Specifically Manfred Sideous.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5351648#post5351648 (Comments on combat probing)
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5368483#post5368483 His desire to change combat probing and to do it as loudly as possible.
This is the CSM's requested change.
And this kinda royalty kills wspace in almost every sense of the word. Can't warp fleet to a fking wormhole entrance now?
Yaay!!!!
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Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
1528
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:33:33 -
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Not even surprised anymore.. |
Tzu Wu
THORN Syndicate
Circle-Of-Two
34
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:34:10 -
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Speaking of wormholes and I know CCP wont straight out agree with me, I dont think they ever meant for people to live in them and treats them as such. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
38035
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:34:33 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:And this kinda royalty kills wspace in almost every sense of the word. Can't warp fleet to a fking wormhole entrance now?
I think if the bookmark is in Corp bookmarks it should be ok (as long as your fleet is composed of Corp members only).
NPSI fleets will be slowed down by this which is kind of a shame.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
656
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:34:34 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:
And this kinda royalty kills wspace in almost every sense of the word. Can't warp fleet to a fking wormhole entrance now?
Why? Just send the prober in on range cloaked, warp the fleet on range to the prober and then down to the hole ... daily business in NPSI fleets.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
25601
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:49:15 -
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It should be noted that he was the same fellow pushing for jump fatigue changes.
I'm trying to understand what these changes are accomplishing (I'm well aware of what the wishful thinking meta is).
Lights will guide you home
And ignite your bones
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Carmen Electra
Shiptoasters
60880
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:59:55 -
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Sibyyl wrote:I'm trying to understand what these changes are accomplishing (I'm well aware of what the wishful thinking meta is).
CCP knows that we capsuleers have masochistic tendencies. They just want to make sure we get our pain fix.
Bacon makes us stronger
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
21828
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:32:35 -
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OH NO! For the love of god CCP.. don't make us have to play for ourselves! First the ISBoxer ban.. now this? WHATEVER SHALL WE DO!?!?!?!?!?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
16125
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:35:40 -
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Next have broadcasts for repairs and new targets only apply to squads.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
414
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:12:50 -
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Good change. |
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
276
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:29:10 -
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Some of us would prefer that they ripped fleets out of the game entirely. Why should lemmings get a buff and tactically proficient players be punished with features like "Right Click -> Blob Warp"? |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
CODE.
13383
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:38:56 -
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The official thread with which to express your opinion on this can be found here.
Be sure to give them an earful.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11345
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:47:59 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Not even surprised anymore..
This
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Kenrailae
Fallen Reich
350
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:52:53 -
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Tzu Wu wrote:I think CCP is outdoing themselves on unnecessary changes.
^ This. And this again.
The Law is a point of View
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11345
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:54:01 -
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Sibyyl wrote:It should be noted that he was the same fellow pushing for jump fatigue changes. I'm trying to understand what these changes are accomplishing (I'm well aware of what the wishful thinking meta is).
Basically it's meta gaming against bombers. Usually form people who don't understand that bombers keep some potential null fleet doctrine madness in check.
Its like how people stupidly get rid of some predator in real life then act all surprised when their homes get over run by frogs or something.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11345
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:55:56 -
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Kenrailae wrote:Tzu Wu wrote:I think CCP is outdoing themselves on unnecessary changes. ^ This. And this again.
+1. Why in hell would CCP buff blobbing? WTF? |
Alruan Shadowborn
InterSun Freelance
SONS of BANE
41
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Posted - 2015.06.12 01:35:50 -
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baltec1 wrote:Next have broadcasts for repairs and new targets only apply to squads.
Command channeling would be good, FC broadcasts to Wing commanders , who then rebroadcast to which ever group they want to do it
If set up right could be beneficial to greater FC control and would add strength to headshotting fleet command positions, make the people in those groups need to think a bit more rather than one person broadcast and then the whole fleet press F1 |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
281
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Posted - 2015.06.12 01:49:29 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Sibyyl wrote:It should be noted that he was the same fellow pushing for jump fatigue changes. I'm trying to understand what these changes are accomplishing (I'm well aware of what the wishful thinking meta is). Basically it's meta gaming against bombers. Usually form people who don't understand that bombers keep some potential null fleet doctrine madness in check. Its like how people stupidly get rid of some predator in real life then act all surprised when their homes get over run by frogs or something.
oh so its some CSM/CCP DEV pvp then.. called meta gaming |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
2517
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Posted - 2015.06.12 01:53:14 -
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I think we've currently got an unfortunate combination of really crap CSM members and CCP being desperate to try and revitalize the game. |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
281
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Posted - 2015.06.12 01:55:40 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:I think we've currently got an unfortunate combination of really crap CSM members and CCP being desperate to try and revitalize the game.
I knew most of them as good people, but seriously saw it all as a ClusterFawk Coalition of ego maniacs that kiss ring fingers of bald guys who think they're emperors are queens of fake sci-fi internet spaceship dramas. |
Sasha Cohenberg
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling
CODE.
4
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:30:42 -
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This is a pretty big nerf to high sec freighter ganking with -5 sec status characters. |
Tzu Wu
THORN Syndicate
Circle-Of-Two
36
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:50:27 -
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Sasha Cohenberg wrote:This is a pretty big nerf to high sec freighter ganking with -5 sec status characters.
Did not even think of that. I think a work around might be to personally bookmark the warp in spots, then since you have that spot bookmarked it will work? Could be wrong. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10029
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:57:19 -
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Tzu Wu wrote:Sasha Cohenberg wrote:This is a pretty big nerf to high sec freighter ganking with -5 sec status characters. Did not even think of that. I think a work around might be to personally bookmark the warp in spots, then since you have that spot bookmarked it will work? Could be wrong.
nope,
CCP Larrikin wrote: Fleet Commanders, Wing Commanders & Squad Commanders will no longer be able to warp to anything a fleet member couldnGÇÖt warp to on their own. This includes GÇô
- Probe Results
- Bookmarks
- Any private deadspace item (missions, etc.)
Commanders will still be able to warp their fleet to other fleet members, and all other GÇÿpublicGÇÖ objects..
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5812621#post5812621
you will just have to get the scout on grid first then fleet "warp to member" and its fine, seriously its no big deal
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Fidelas Constans
2485
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Posted - 2015.06.12 03:16:24 -
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Tzu Wu wrote:Sasha Cohenberg wrote:This is a pretty big nerf to high sec freighter ganking with -5 sec status characters. Did not even think of that. I think a work around might be to personally bookmark the warp in spots, then since you have that spot bookmarked it will work? Could be wrong.
You should have a bumper or scanner on him before hand. I dont know of many gank tactics that dont involve someone buttering up the guy before he gets cooked. Could be wrong. |
Vic Jefferson
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
351
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Posted - 2015.06.12 03:22:09 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:I think we've currently got an unfortunate combination of really crap CSM members and CCP being desperate to try and revitalize the game.
Agree 100%
If you want to fix battleships and bombing runs, fix battleships and/or bombers. This is just another change that is quite frankly terrible and has large implications on quality of life for almost everyone else.
If you want to revitalize the game, fix lowsec and npc null; give people a place to learn the game rather than dumping 100% of the emphasis on Sov.
Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
556
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Posted - 2015.06.12 03:36:49 -
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ISD Decoy
Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Jonni Favorite
Red Slice Enterprise
185
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Posted - 2015.06.12 03:46:54 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:
oh so its some CSM/CCP DEV pvp then.. called meta gaming
I think the opposite. I think it would improve tactical gaming a lot
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