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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
CODE.
13396
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Posted - 2015.06.12 17:28:19 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I tried to feel something for the victims.
The best I could manage was aroused.
Am I okay?
In my professional opinion as an amateur internet psychologist, I'd say you're just fine.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10042
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Posted - 2015.06.12 17:35:55 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:I tried to feel something for the victims.
The best I could manage was aroused.
Am I okay? In my professional opinion as an amateur internet psychologist, I'd say you're just fine.
i second my esteemed colleague, however i have noticed a distinct and alarming coherence to your post....a sobriety even
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Stacy Lone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2015.06.12 17:56:59 -
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Brutus Utama wrote:The guy was genuinely trying to help out the corp and you guys probably made him leave the game...or if not made him unable to trust anyone in game again... Pretty unfair
But that is the point, isn't it? You can not trust anyone in this game. And if you do, it bites you in the ass. That is more or less what I learned in the game from day one. If he hasn't learned it yet and still made 100B, kudos to him, but also shame on him, about time he learned that part about EVE.
It is common sense to be careful. He wasn't. It came back to him and bit him in the ass.
Scamming isn't my style of gameplay, in fact I have a very low opinion of people who do it (I'm still convinced the behavior we show in games were no boundaries inhibit us reflects who we would truly be if such boundaries did not exist irl), but this is entirely hs own fault. You should never give up that kind of cash to someone you barely know, and definitely under those circumstances.
(Having that kind of cash on your main toon and not hidden on alts and giving away his API is another stupid mistake) |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6697
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Posted - 2015.06.12 18:03:41 -
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How someone gets far enough to get that much ISK and now know about scams is strange to me.
I also recall there is a thread all about why players stay in NPC corps or 1-man corps. This would be why.
If you think scamming is "good", then you have to take the bad with the good, the bad being that people will stay in NPC corps and/or highsec and not even respond to a convo.
I'm not calling for an end to scamming. I'm calling for players with a sense of entitlement to start seeing that actions have consequences. Scamming, AWOXing, etc. have those consequences often complained about by the same people touting "sandbox" and "social game" all of the time.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Moth Eisig
96
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Posted - 2015.06.12 18:14:47 -
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That's a smidge better RoI than 9 months for a Rorqual. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
4023
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Posted - 2015.06.12 18:38:32 -
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Stacy Lone wrote:(I'm still convinced the behavior we show in games were no boundaries inhibit us reflects who we would truly be if such boundaries did not exist irl) Humans are mostly horrible creatures, nothing new there.
Though apparently certain types of 'boundaries' can make things even worse!
Anyway, I'd bet the scammers in that story are fairly decent people IRL.
We shouldn't worry about them, we should worry about poor Elias IRL! EVE is a cold harsh universe, but RL is the real deal. I can only hope that losing a couple billion of pixel currency because of extreme naivety will teach him to be a tad more careful with the real cash.
EVE is educational, who would've known?
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2015.06.12 18:44:22 -
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nope
this does not compare to that why erotica1 got his righfully earned ban for.
scamming one naive guy is not a big deal.
scamming corps or alliances like the imperium would be spectecular, but this?
pffffff
100 bill?
that was one naive guy.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2015.06.12 18:46:49 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Stacy Lone wrote:(I'm still convinced the behavior we show in games were no boundaries inhibit us reflects who we would truly be if such boundaries did not exist irl) Humans are mostly horrible creatures, nothing new there. Though apparently certain types of 'boundaries' can make things even worse!Anyway, I'd bet the scammers in that story are fairly decent people IRL. We shouldn't worry about them, we should worry about poor Elias IRL! EVE is a cold harsh universe, but RL is the real deal. I can only hope that losing a couple billion of pixel currency because of extreme naivety will teach him to be a tad more careful with the real cash. EVE is educational, who would've known?
No, if most humans would be horrible, civilisation would not be where it is now.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
4023
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Posted - 2015.06.12 18:51:31 -
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La Rynx wrote:No, if most humans would be horrible, civilisation would not be where it is now. Yes, civilisation is in an awesome place now.
Are you Elias? Same naivety.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11367
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Posted - 2015.06.12 18:59:02 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:La Rynx wrote:No, if most humans would be horrible, civilisation would not be where it is now. Yes, civilisation is in an awesome place now. Are you Elias? Same naivety.
This is why I talk about false perception. One of the things that fuels false perceptions is lack of context. People that exist now didn't exist in the past when things were really bad, so they believe that what's going on now is terrible.
Truth is this is the most peaceful time in all of human history, and it's getting even more peaceful (and prosperous) with each passing day. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
4024
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Posted - 2015.06.12 19:02:26 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:La Rynx wrote:No, if most humans would be horrible, civilisation would not be where it is now. Yes, civilisation is in an awesome place now. Are you Elias? Same naivety. This is why I talk about false perception. One of the things that fuels false perceptions is lack of context. People that exist now didn't exist in the past when things were really bad, so they believe that what's going on now is terrible. Truth is this is the most peaceful time in all of human history, and it's getting even more peaceful ( and prosperous) with each passing day. Aye and that's a damn good thing.
But I don't think it's becuase we're nicer dudes. It's just that nowadays the strong can convince the weak to work for them much more efficiently, using TV ads instead of beating them senseless with a club.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
21857
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Posted - 2015.06.12 19:07:39 -
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Anyone else starting to think that the percentage of Eve players with 'victim compexes' is much much higher than the percentage of us 'sociopaths/psychopaths/rustlers/cut throats/murderers/bounty hunters/desperados/mugs/pugs/thugs/nitwits/halfwits/dimwits/vipers/snipers/con men/Indian agents/Mexican bandits/muggers/buggerers/bushwhackers/hornswogglers/horse thieves/bull *****/train robbers/bank robbers/ass-kickers/****-kickers and Methodists' ?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2015.06.12 19:10:18 -
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exactly!
if most people would be horrible civilisation would not have reached the standards of the antiques, nor the middle ages.
cooperaition of many do catch up the effects of those horrible ppl.
our times might still lack, however consider things live the live expectancy today against earlier times.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2015.06.12 19:11:33 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:La Rynx wrote:No, if most humans would be horrible, civilisation would not be where it is now. Yes, civilisation is in an awesome place now. Are you Elias? Same naivety. This is why I talk about false perception. One of the things that fuels false perceptions is lack of context. People that exist now didn't exist in the past when things were really bad, so they believe that what's going on now is terrible. Truth is this is the most peaceful time in all of human history, and it's getting even more peaceful ( and prosperous) with each passing day. Aye and that's a damn good thing. But I don't think it's becuase we're nicer dudes. It's just that nowadays the strong can convince the weak to work for them much more efficiently, using TV ads instead of beating them senseless with a club.
i am not talking of nice, i am talking of cooperation to maximize your own benefits.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Jaclyn Hayes
Perkone
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.06.12 19:12:29 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Anyone else starting to think that the percentage of Eve players with 'victim compexes' is much much higher than the percentage of us 'sociopaths/psychopaths/rustlers/cut throats/murderers/bounty hunters/desperados/mugs/pugs/thugs/nitwits/halfwits/dimwits/vipers/snipers/con men/Indian agents/Mexican bandits/muggers/buggerers/bushwhackers/hornswogglers/horse thieves/bull *****/train robbers/bank robbers/ass-kickers/****-kickers and Methodists' ?
New generation. |
Daerrol
Death By Design
Did he say Jump
167
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Posted - 2015.06.12 19:16:56 -
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This clickbait is worse than buzzfeed |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
4024
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Posted - 2015.06.12 19:25:39 -
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La Rynx wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:La Rynx wrote:No, if most humans would be horrible, civilisation would not be where it is now. Yes, civilisation is in an awesome place now. Are you Elias? Same naivety. This is why I talk about false perception. One of the things that fuels false perceptions is lack of context. People that exist now didn't exist in the past when things were really bad, so they believe that what's going on now is terrible. Truth is this is the most peaceful time in all of human history, and it's getting even more peaceful ( and prosperous) with each passing day. Aye and that's a damn good thing. But I don't think it's becuase we're nicer dudes. It's just that nowadays the strong can convince the weak to work for them much more efficiently, using TV ads instead of beating them senseless with a club. i am not talking of nice, i am talking of cooperation to maximize your own benefits. Meh, these dudes seemed promising, but probably because they were cheating.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Marsha Mallow
2218
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Posted - 2015.06.12 19:30:02 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Anyone else starting to think that the percentage of Eve players with 'victim compexes' is much much higher than the percentage of us 'sociopaths/psychopaths/rustlers/cut throats/murderers/bounty hunters/desperados/mugs/pugs/thugs/nitwits/halfwits/dimwits/vipers/snipers/con men/Indian agents/Mexican bandits/muggers/buggerers/bushwhackers/hornswogglers/horse thieves/bull *****/train robbers/bank robbers/ass-kickers/****-kickers and Methodists' ?
Tbf we are all violently persecuted by CCP. Some of us enjoy it more than others though.
Only listened to part of the second clip and I heard the guy going 'guys, I'm starting to feel like a mark here.' Down to his last 10b and he's just starting to get uneasy?
Solecist Project wrote: See, the issue isn't the rubbing
ISD Ezwal wrote: Nope, no one will get banned for 'rubbing'
Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread
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Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2015.06.12 20:18:39 -
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Stacy Lone wrote:While I despise what Erotica1 did and the whole bonus room thing, this doesn't even come close to it. Do I feel sorry for the guy? I'm having trouble with that. Everyone knows that EVE is a harsh place full of scammers and such. The amount of naivity and stupidity shown by the victim is truly astonishing. He should've known better. You don#t give that kind of cash away to people you don't know and can't trust. You wouldn't do that IRL, so why does anyone think it is a good idea ingame? It against common sense. So yeah, sorry, but this is his own fault.
Paranoia is your best friend in this game. I safeguard everything I own and every single ISK in as many ways as I can.
Case in point:
The very fact that people don't ignore 99.9% of the messages people put on local in a heavy-traffic market system is a sign that Darwinism is not working in their favor. Yet I still see people fall for these trade scams posted in local every second day. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6697
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Posted - 2015.06.12 20:20:56 -
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Jaclyn Hayes wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Anyone else starting to think that the percentage of Eve players with 'victim compexes' is much much higher than the percentage of us 'sociopaths/psychopaths/rustlers/cut throats/murderers/bounty hunters/desperados/mugs/pugs/thugs/nitwits/halfwits/dimwits/vipers/snipers/con men/Indian agents/Mexican bandits/muggers/buggerers/bushwhackers/hornswogglers/horse thieves/bull *****/train robbers/bank robbers/ass-kickers/****-kickers and Methodists' ?
New generation.
As a reflection on the RL population. Very possibly so.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2300
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Posted - 2015.06.12 20:20:59 -
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That guy must have been drunk for like a month, how and at what point could anyone possibly think that any of this is a good idea? |
Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
1545
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Posted - 2015.06.12 20:48:50 -
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Stacy Lone wrote:(I'm still convinced the behavior we show in games were no boundaries inhibit us reflects who we would truly be if such boundaries did not exist irl)
The typical EVE player is a 30 year old white male of above average intellect working in the engineering or IT fields; possibly the most benign, harmless, bourgeois specimen any human society has ever produced. The chance of them ever acting like they do in EVE is...minute... |
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2015.06.12 21:00:21 -
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Kiandoshia wrote:That guy must have been drunk for like a month, how and at what point could anyone possibly think that any of this is a good idea?
Its simple when spelled out...
He's a D-U-M-B-A-S-S  |
OP is Hupocrite
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.06.12 23:25:20 -
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that is funny from someone who social engineers people out trillions of isk
how much did u pay for those emergency stratios you scam from blink? |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1928
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Posted - 2015.06.12 23:56:33 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:I tried to feel something for the victims.
The best I could manage was aroused.
Am I okay? In my professional opinion as an amateur internet psychologist, I'd say you're just fine. i second my esteemed colleague, however i have noticed a distinct and alarming coherence to your post....a sobriety even
Ha! I must be getting better at faking it then, as I was very very tanked when that was written.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
239
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Posted - 2015.06.13 00:44:19 -
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Again? Put this in the dead horse file.
I survived Win95
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
778
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Posted - 2015.06.13 02:50:14 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Anyone else starting to think that the percentage of Eve players with 'victim compexes' is much much higher than the percentage of us 'sociopaths/psychopaths...
Yes, go take a look at the general feedback thread for the Carnyx release. Lots of whining, ultimatums being tossed around, lengthy diatribes posted every other page... |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
38058
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Posted - 2015.06.13 03:31:57 -
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Brutus Utama wrote:The guy was genuinely trying to help out the corp and you guys probably... ...made him unable to trust anyone in game again...
He learnt a good lesson then.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
165
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Posted - 2015.06.13 03:59:46 -
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Stacy Lone wrote:Brutus Utama wrote:The guy was genuinely trying to help out the corp and you guys probably made him leave the game...or if not made him unable to trust anyone in game again... Pretty unfair But that is the point, isn't it? You can not trust anyone in this game. And if you do, it bites you in the ass. That is more or less what I learned in the game from day one. If he hasn't learned it yet and still made 100B, kudos to him, but also shame on him, about time he learned that part about EVE. It is common sense to be careful. He wasn't. It came back to him and bit him in the ass. ... (Having that kind of cash on your main toon and not hidden on alts and giving away his API is another stupid mistake)
Ultimately trusting someone he didn't know IRL with that ISKl was entirely his error.
On the issue of having those assets on his main and submitting full APIs...
Well, I know I've seen posts in recent threads stating we should be willing to give full APIs (Trust us!) to corps we're applying to.
Clearly there is a major difference of opinion here amongst the forumites on that matter. 
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vccv
40
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Posted - 2015.06.13 04:37:27 -
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Where is the "out of the sandbox" part?
As unfortunate as it is for him, its still content. It was a 100b theft. Congrats, condolences, play on.
And honestly, there have been far larger heists in the past. If anything I feel this is all blown out of proportion because of the people involved and it being written up as a newsworthy article when I personally feel it borders on being just another average theft among so many others in progress as we speak. Where is the article and outrage over a certain 600bil heist not a few months back? Call me cold but I dont see what the big deal is here. Thanks for the link though, it was something to read other than the usual cap derps. |
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