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Gemini Zero Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.21 23:24:00 - [1] Edited by: Gemini Zero on 21/11/2006 23:49:22 Disclaimer: This is not guaranteed to be 100% easy since in the end its chance based. I personally have had much success with this method, and I will be moving on to do other things when Kali comes along. So I have decided to share my money making secret with my fellow pod pilots. Ship Needed: Assault Frigate with Explosive and Kinetic Tanks, HAC is better, but I have done it in AFs Modules Needed: Codebreaker I (needs Science 5 & Electronics Upgrades 5) I'll focus this post on the COSMOS complex in Tvink called Contested Minmatar Guerrilla Base. Inside there are multiple acceleration gates, one leads to the Data Center. In this area there are tons of structures that appear as cargo containers. These structures are "locked" and need the Hacking skill and Codebreaker mod to open. Ideally you want Hacking 3 or 4 to be able to open all of the structures. ISK Rewards Here is where the ISK making opportunities come in. Inside these structures will be random pirate parts which are themselves worth a modest amount. The jackpot comes when you open a structure and there is an Angels Encryption skillbook, which at the moment is worth 250m-300m ISK on market. I have had days where I have found between 5 and 10 of these books. Risk Now of course this is not easy. While you are going around opening up these structures, rats will be constantly spawning, mostly cruisers and battleships. ThatÆs why you need an Assault Frig (or HAC) with a good tank. So these rats donÆt kill ya. Keep in mind that this complex is in High Sec, so the best part is no one can "own" the complex. No other player can shoot you if they claim it is their territory, because CONCORD has your back. Anyone who has had success with this or questions, feel free to reply!
Jin Jemai Caldari Nightgliders	Posted - 2006.11.21 23:42:00 - [2] Incoming nerf in 3...2...1 ----- Im in ur Chicago wearing dresses at night.
Benglada Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.21 23:45:00 - [3] Id go do this if A. My alt had science 5 B. That there wouldnt now be 1,000 people there. --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Nukeitall Nukeitall Coterie	Posted - 2006.11.21 23:50:00 - [4] Please do it, I need those skillbooks and I don't feel like training hacking. Just need to wait a few weeks for the market to crash, and, blamo. --------- >>Disclaimer: Anything Nukeitall says is not to be taken seriously. Mostly.
NiGHTS	Posted - 2006.11.21 23:54:00 - [5] Hah I'd love to but I don't have any science skills :(. At least we can all look forward to lower prices. mailto:[email protected]plz spam m3 -Eldo
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:14:00 - [6] Telltale MOOCIFER Emerald/Alpha Oldtimer
Mad Tom	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:16:00 - [7] Edited by: Mad Tom on 22/11/2006 00:16:26 How is kali going to change this? Angel Encryption skill (and all the other COSMOS pirate encryption skills) will be turned into the racial equivalent, in this case Minmatar Encryption, wich is needed for Invention... Question is, will this become the hottest selling industrial skill, or will it be seeded on the market?
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:18:00 - [8] Who said they are turning into their racial equivalent? Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:24:00 - [9] It was stated a while back, in the dev blog for invention too i believe. Arrow Capital Ship Sales
Tevlent Caldari PandaSquad	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:25:00 - [10] How come you arent going to do this anymore when Revelations comes out? Are they changing something vital to the status quo? "Hope is a waking dream" ~Aristotle
Pakalolo Tha Shiznit	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:28:00 - [11] Edited by: Pakalolo on 22/11/2006 00:30:17 0.5, yet there are those in Tvink who think they 'own' the plex, and they will: a. after you warp in and do a bit of hacking, these pilots will warp out, leaving you to defend yourself against the entire spawn. When you can't do that and warp yourself, they will call you a leach and threaten to war dec you (from their alt corp as these players hang in a NPC corp so you can't wardec them directly). If you resume hacking, you will be wardecced in a few days. or, b. after you warp in, you will be scanned (by a covert alt). after you start hacking, at least two characters from said corp will arrive to blow you up. they will also be destroyed by concord (to comply with the rules), but you are dead too, and your can looted by the original chars form the NPC corp. Rinse, repeat (if you choose to lose more ships). yes there are plenty of Angel skillbooks available there, but it is not risk free. my guess is the Agony folks got booted by the same chars, so are now advertising the spot. you can take a bs into this spawn. AF may be a bit of a stretch, unless there's lots of other folks about. edit: removed names
Adipocere	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:29:00 - [12] This has worked for me too. Most folks seem to need three or four ships to handle the spawns, but I've picked up several books just leading the spawns away and warping back. It only gets really bad when newbie harvesters move in and pretend like they run the joint, but you can pick up a couple billion without firing a shot on anything other than the scrambler frigs if you're patient/bored. Adi ps: The market for these seems to be a little better than Connections books considering how quickly I can harvest them and I expect the Methods to stabilize down around that price point.
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:30:00 - [13] Originally by: Phoenix Lord It was stated a while back, in the dev blog for invention too i believe. Ah, you're right, thanks.
Adipocere	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:32:00 - [14] Quote: at least two characters from said corp will arrive to blow you up. What do they use?
Gemini Zero Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:34:00 - [15] It is hard to instapop a tanked AF before CONCORD gets you. With the HP increases coming next week, it will be even harder.
Pakalolo Tha Shiznit	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:39:00 - [16] armageddons in my case. having thought about it, i doubt they were able to kick all of you from agony. AF advice heard, thank you.
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:40:00 - [17] They usually use Caracals. Cheap with a massive alpha strike because of the missle boat feature. I think I read somewhere that they weren't seeding the Encryption skillbooks but were making you find them still. I think they mentioned putting them in those secret escalating complexes you have to scan out, but they weren't clear if they were taking them out of COSMOS complexes.
Olivin Gallente Aquarium	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Gemini Zero Anyone who has had success with this or questions, feel free to reply! I doubt that you can find "5 and 10 of these books" in a day. ( Unless it's been changed recently, you are lucky to get 1 book from day of camping). ---------------------------- We¦re not lost. We¦re locationally challenged.
Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:49:00 - [19] Originally by: Jin Jemai Incoming nerf in 3...2...1 It shouldn't need a nerf, because it's entirely market-driven - if everyone starts doing this, prices will drop quickly.
SengH Black Omega Security The OSS	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:49:00 - [20] the last time I ran it, I did it in a claymore and no one bothered me :P Granted it would be funny to see 2 armas try and break the tank. ---------------------------------------- Back for a month cus Awu5 finished.....
Olivin Gallente Aquarium	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:55:00 - [21] Edited by: Olivin on 22/11/2006 00:57:42 Originally by: Joerd Toastius Originally by: Jin Jemai Incoming nerf in 3...2...1 It shouldn't need a nerf, because it's entirely market-driven - if everyone starts doing this, prices will drop quickly. It should be buffed. The whole reason that Angel encryption and Sleeper's are so expensive is because it's hard to get. You need to tank angels and books don't drop that often. For example, you don't see Yan Jung Technology or Serpentis Encryption go over 100 mil, because Yan Jung given as a mission reward and Serpentis Encryption is very easy to get from Deltole. Olivin EDIT: This books will probably go up in price after Kali, because if I understood it correctly they will be used for the invention ( under different names though). As for now, I have no clue what kind of people pay that much for them, since they pretty useless, especcially Angel encryption book. ---------------------------- We¦re not lost. We¦re locationally challenged.
Deliz Seemack Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.11.22 01:10:00 - [22] ***, you said it! -He conquers who endures.* -Never underestimate game companies' greed.
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.22 02:54:00 - [23] Originally by: Olivin As for now, I have no clue what kind of people pay that much for them, since they pretty useless, especcially Angel encryption book. They are used for manufacturing those bizarro COSMOS BPC's that you get as mission rewards all the time from COSMOS agents. I have done probably half the Gallente COSMOS missions and I have a bunch of them. They are three run BPC's that create a unique named item that cannot be found anywhere else and is equivalent to a tech2 version of the same mod. In order to make them you need hacking, one of those bizarre encryption skills, and some of the random items you find in the same areas that spawn the encryption books. I personally have not bought or sold any of these items, but I think some people either make them for themselves or do sell them because the price on the items and the encryption books indicates a market.
Wendat Huron Lupus Industries	Posted - 2006.11.22 03:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Farrellus Cameron Originally by: Olivin As for now, I have no clue what kind of people pay that much for them, since they pretty useless, especcially Angel encryption book. They are used for manufacturing those bizarro COSMOS BPC's that you get as mission rewards all the time from COSMOS agents. I have done probably half the Gallente COSMOS missions and I have a bunch of them. They are three run BPC's that create a unique named item that cannot be found anywhere else and is equivalent to a tech2 version of the same mod. In order to make them you need hacking, one of those bizarre encryption skills, and some of the random items you find in the same areas that spawn the encryption books. I personally have not bought or sold any of these items, but I think some people either make them for themselves or do sell them because the price on the items and the encryption books indicates a market. The price indicates there being speculants for a future possible market, there's no current market for these modules, at least none that I've seen.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.22 03:58:00 - [25] Originally by: Farrellus Cameron Who said they are turning into their racial equivalent? The Devs did. Angel encryptions are going to be Minmatar encryptions, Soon(tm). Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Melissa Ravenflame Caldari Aquae-Sulis	Posted - 2006.11.22 08:40:00 - [26] I can confirm that this will work. There is a guy who likes to think he 'Owns' that complex and farms it with a host of alts. Anyone else does go in there and he starts smacking local over how he is 'In charge' and will 'Wardec you if you don't get out'. From what I've seen in local, looks like he gets more alts in another corp to wardec you whilst he sits in a n00b corp getting fat. What a weasel. Anyway, I think he is borderline griefing with this but anyway, back to the point. I know for a fact that books spawn pretty regularly here. A corp mate found 5 of them over a 4 hour period. I'm sure to an extent it's chance based though and he may have just been lucky.
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.22 08:47:00 - [27] Originally by: Jin Jemai Incoming nerf in 3...2...1 i hope you're correct ___________________ -Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
Olivin Gallente Aquarium	Posted - 2006.11.22 09:14:00 - [28] Originally by: Farrellus Cameron Originally by: Olivin As for now, I have no clue what kind of people pay that much for them, since they pretty useless, especcially Angel encryption book. They are used for manufacturing those bizarro COSMOS BPC's that you get as mission rewards all the time from COSMOS agents. . Yes, I know. I have hundreds of these BPC's, but only very few ( and not from Ani) worth the effort of doing something with them and they aren't needed Angel Encryption. Olivin ---------------------------- We¦re not lost. We¦re locationally challenged.
Brolly Caldari The Department of Justice	Posted - 2006.11.22 09:46:00 - [29] Those skillbooks are gonna be worth peanuts once there seeded with kali. Good luck to anyone trying to flog them off for stupid money before that If I had ú1 for every intelligent comment posted in general discussion, I'd be hideously in debt
Mikal Drey	Posted - 2006.11.22 09:53:00 - [30] hey hey 1) would be nice if they were seeded in kali but only the devs know if they will or wont 2) got locked by a buZZard with a couple of ships floating outside the edges of the plex but yeah i doubt they will suicide a Claynmore :) 3) 4-5 books in a day - i can see that easily 4) revelations changes will/might mean that the spawn sites for the book and new agents encounters etc. will/could mean that they plan not to seed but to dramaticly increase the availability thus dropping market prices
J Mnemonic	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:13:00 - [31] I will definately have to go there, need that book when invention comes out!!
Lucy Moo	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:35:00 - [32] Edited by: Lucy Moo on 22/11/2006 15:47:26 Everyone knows about the tvink cosmos, but who would want to farm it? The Angel encryptions skillbook will not be popular in Kali, this is because they say it might become minmatar encryptions. This is the most useless of all the encryption skillbooks because all the good stuff T2 stuff that be be invented comes from Serpentis and Gurista (gallente/caldari) invention jobs. The amarr will probably be useful aswell as it's used for cap based modules. Amarr encryptions book can be found in Garisas Caldari encryptions can be found in Friggi Serpentis encryptions can be found in Deltole The angel is also by far the hardest to tank, doing 2000+ dps with elite npc frigs that scramble and web, it's very easy to die. It's the serpentis and gurista encryption books that be worth the most in kali, all the best invention jobs (gallente/caldari) will require those two skills, and these two books are far easier to farm than the angel one. The skillbook drop is also a lot rarer than the OP would have you believe. Afterall, if all this was true, he would be here posting this on the forums. Doesn't this post belong in the missions or skills forum btw? This is a post about a skillbook and farming it from cosmos missions afterall.
Michelle Ferre	Posted - 2006.11.22 16:06:00 - [33] That is not entirely true. The complex in Tvink is the only one that isn't rated as a deadspace complex. That means that you are able to warp directly into the last stage where the book is. I know from personal experince that you can do it with as few as 2 pilots, and get approx. a book per hour. The trick in Tvink is that the complex is divided into two separate, far apart, groups. If you just aggro 1 group and keep to the cans on that side you'll be fairly safe. As it is not a deadspace, the third room is also littered with cans, that you'll be able to warp to, to de-aggro, making it far easier than any other complex i've been to. The comment about Gallente/Caldari being much better is just utter rubbish. You sound like one of those farmers that try to discourage ordinary players from getting a book for invention.
Michelle Ferre	Posted - 2006.11.22 16:15:00 - [34] Originally by: Lucy Moo ... with elite npc frigs that scramble and web, it's very easy to die. Btw .. there's just 2 warp scrambling frigs on each side
cinderbrood Caldari The Rat Pack	Posted - 2006.11.22 16:39:00 - [35] oh and most of that complex is doable in a ferox thats passive tanked ;) i know this as i did it last night ^^
Spenz Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:15:00 - [36] Made 2 bil in 4 days doing the Deltole plex and hacking Serpentis skillbooks. They are in demand mainly because they are really hard to get. Unlike the Tvink plex, you cant bring a BS nor can you warp anywhere. It is you vs the plex no matter what. Ive seen HAC's get killed, and even with 93% kinetic and thermal resists I can only do the plex if I kill the scrambler frigates and destroy at least 1/3 of the cruisers before they get within optimal range. CCP never said they would seed these books. Just like datacores, you cannot just buy this stuff on the market. You need to hack/dig/salvage this stuff, at least that is what they said. Since they are difficult to get, you can sell them at high prices. If you want a challenge go to Deltole heh. I have yet to see ANY ship besides a HAC or command vessel able to solo this plex. Many have tried and many have died.
Melissa Ravenflame Caldari Aquae-Sulis	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:34:00 - [37] Originally by: Lucy Moo Edited by: Lucy Moo on 22/11/2006 15:47:26 Everyone knows about the tvink cosmos, but who would want to farm it? The Angel encryptions skillbook will not be popular in Kali, this is because they say it might become minmatar encryptions. This is the most useless of all the encryption skillbooks because all the good stuff T2 stuff that be be invented comes from Serpentis and Gurista (gallente/caldari) invention jobs. The amarr will probably be useful aswell as it's used for cap based modules. The skillbook drop is also a lot rarer than the OP would have you believe. Afterall, if all this was true, he would be here posting this on the forums. Great spin, it sounds like you don't want your farming disturbed . That complex is bugged (can warp direct to the room with the skillbooks) and the guy who farms it is hiding in a noob corp to protect himself whilst griefing other players by wardeccing them with his alts. Hmm, exploiting a bug and griefing. That takes us down a certain road...
Pakalolo Tha Shiznit	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:48:00 - [38] The funny thing is that during my first experiences with this farmer, he wasn't even hacking the proper cans for the skillbooks. Protecting the Angel Simple Trigger Mechanism? I think not. Seems he has caught on since then, however.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2006.11.22 18:29:00 - [39] Originally by: Spenz If you want a challenge go to Deltole heh. I have yet to see ANY ship besides a HAC or command vessel able to solo this plex. Many have tried and many have died. I heard that locals in Deltole are very nice people and will more likely to help you in your mission. "It's great being Amarr, ain't it?Ö" PERVS \o/
Gemini Zero Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.22 21:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Lucy Moo Edited by: Lucy Moo on 22/11/2006 15:47:26 Everyone knows about the tvink cosmos, but who would want to farm it? The Angel encryptions skillbook will not be popular in Kali, this is because they say it might become minmatar encryptions. This is the most useless of all the encryption skillbooks because all the good stuff T2 stuff that be be invented comes from Serpentis and Gurista (gallente/caldari) invention jobs. The amarr will probably be useful aswell as it's used for cap based modules. Amarr encryptions book can be found in Garisas Caldari encryptions can be found in Friggi Serpentis encryptions can be found in Deltole The angel is also by far the hardest to tank, doing 2000+ dps with elite npc frigs that scramble and web, it's very easy to die. It's the serpentis and gurista encryption books that be worth the most in kali, all the best invention jobs (gallente/caldari) will require those two skills, and these two books are far easier to farm than the angel one. The skillbook drop is also a lot rarer than the OP would have you believe. Afterall, if all this was true, he would be here posting this on the forums. Doesn't this post belong in the missions or skills forum btw? This is a post about a skillbook and farming it from cosmos missions afterall. This post just goes to prove how much ISK opportunity there is in Tvink. This is obviously an alt of someone who is trying desperately to get people to go ANYWHERE but here. The truth is Tvink is the best out of all of them. The fact that it is not a deadspace area, means you can book mark and warp in and out quite easily. Also MWD works just fine! If his attempt to get this post moved to another forum with less traffic doesn't solidify my point I don't know what will. I want this post to stay in General Discussion because it is about making ISK and thats something that the general population of EvE is concerned with.
Lucy Moo	Posted - 2006.11.22 22:16:00 - [41] Everyone can also see that you are full of it, as if all what you have said is true, why on earth would you post this for all to see?
Za Po Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.22 22:26:00 - [42] What I don't understand is why those pirate parts sell for so much. Not that I complain, since I sell those I find, but those COSMOS items aren't that good. Some people must be spending on a COSMOS module more than what it would cost to buy a better named.
Gemini Zero Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.22 22:27:00 - [43] Originally by: Lucy Moo Everyone can also see that you are full of it, as if all what you have said is true, why on earth would you post this for all to see? In the first line of my post I mentioned that I am going to be moving on to other things when Kali comes out. Namely invention and salvaging. I think it will be a nice change of pace, since I like the variety of life. I don't want to get in to an arguement over who is telling the truth or not. Everyone here is more than capable of going to Tvink and seeing the truth for themsevles.
Sha'blach Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.22 22:36:00 - [44] People there are pretty pathetic. ------------ *Peregrinus Amarria*
Michelle Ferre	Posted - 2006.11.22 22:55:00 - [45] Originally by: Sha'blach People there are pretty pathetic. Yeah I know. But all those characters belong to one guy! He's just a sad boy "playing with himself". Anyway, he's on a Euro time frame, so you should be able to get the book without him interferring from around 0200 Eve to 1500 EVE.
Xaroth Brook Minmatar Doomcraft	Posted - 2006.11.22 23:01:00 - [46] eveinfo.com has COSMOS information on all races.. every race has it's own COSMOS region, so it might be better to use your own race's area, as it'll spread the 'load' of thousands of people hunting the same books, plus the damage types will be aligned to your race. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Xaroth Brook Brainiac of Doomcraft Member of R I S E
Sha'blach Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.22 23:26:00 - [47] Vel Kyri is the main one, I say we all get together and message him, then IM him, then petition him. I got him on Fraps. ------------ *Peregrinus Amarria*
Piggieliciuos	Posted - 2006.11.22 23:28:00 - [48] Originally by: Sha'blach Vel Kyri is the main one, I say we all get together and message him, then IM him, then petition him. I got him on Fraps. instant message him and then petition him?
Sha'blach Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.22 23:34:00 - [49] well ya! Never know, he might find it sort of annoying :) ------------ *Peregrinus Amarria*
Piggieliciuos	Posted - 2006.11.22 23:41:00 - [50] Originally by: Sha'blach well ya! Never know, he might find it sort of annoying :) so you want us to all instant message him and then petition him? you sure you want to be saying that? ccp would probably ban you for wasting their time on a grand scale.
Pakalolo Tha Shiznit	Posted - 2006.11.22 23:54:00 - [51] ^^ Piggie there is another alt currently farming with him in Tvink, I'm afraid. He is playing within the game rules. That is what sucks.
Sha'blach Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.22 23:58:00 - [52] Pulling NPCs and dropping them on us to protect his territory is a legal action? Sounds like an exploit of game mechanics to me! ------------ *Peregrinus Amarria*
itsabird	Posted - 2006.11.23 00:05:00 - [53] Originally by: Sha'blach Pulling NPCs and dropping them on us to protect his territory is a legal action? Sounds like an exploit of game mechanics to me! Sounds like perfectly legal tactics in just about every mmorpg i've ever played, using the enviroment to your advantage, this goes especially for EVE.
Olivin Gallente Aquarium	Posted - 2006.11.23 00:08:00 - [54] Originally by: Spenz If you want challenge go to Deltole heh. I have yet to see ANY ship besides a HAC or command vessel able to solo this plex. Many have tried and many have died. LOL. I farmed Serpentis Survey Site (in Deltole) solo in Enyo without any problems for a week, although I am not sure about billions of isk. I think you can make about 200-300 mil a day if you lucky with Serpentis Encryption books and Threaded Maps, but this coming to the end. Anyway, the only tricky part there is the "right" spawn with 4 Ice Breakers. Once you kill them you can tank whole complex in AF. So much for the challenge. However, Deltole is very popular with "caracalians" who die there in gangs. If you really want the COSMOS challenge, then go to Ani, get Amarr general inisgina II tag, find Jakela Planation and go the last pocket ( actual plantation). Olivin ---------------------------- We¦re not lost. We¦re locationally challenged.
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.23 04:07:00 - [55] Farming is pretty boring and I can see why SOME people get sick of it pretty quickly. Other people are just obsessive compulsive about accumulating as much isk as possible.
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.23 06:08:00 - [56] Wait, so this clown actually war decs or just runs his mouth? If he war decs, show up with a few buddies when the war goes live and "farm" him and the cosmos plex! (win / win) If it wasn't for the fun down South, I'd go and park my ship next to this clown inside "his" plex... >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<
Pottsey Gallente Acme Shipping Inc	Posted - 2006.11.23 12:59:00 - [57] ôb. after you warp in, you will be scanned (by a covert alt). after you start hacking, at least two characters from said corp will arrive to blow you up. they will also be destroyed by concord (to comply with the rules), but you are dead too, and your can looted by the original chars form the NPC corp. Rinse, repeat (if you choose to lose more ships).ö Take a passive shield tank which does the complex with ease and lol at all those gankers failing to gank you and getting blown up by Concord. Its fun to watch gankers fail. ôI doubt that you can find "5 and 10 of these books" in a day. ( Unless it's been changed recently, you are lucky to get 1 book from day of camping).ö My record is 3 an hour and my average is 2 a day and I only pay a few hours after work. Camping all day would mean 5 to 10 is easy. Its always been easy to get lots of books if you know what to do. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Gemini Zero Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.24 07:37:00 - [58] Originally by: Za Po What I don't understand is why those pirate parts sell for so much. Not that I complain, since I sell those I find, but those COSMOS items aren't that good. Some people must be spending on a COSMOS module more than what it would cost to buy a better named. A lot of the items found in COSMOS complexes are required for missions. Some players who want to raise standings fast, will rather just buy the items on market than to take the time to find them.

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