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Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:44:00 - [1] Basically on Thursday 23rd of November we plan to put the revelations code branch onto TQ and test a few basic things. Server startup (does the server start up correctly). Market startup (does the market services start correctly). Agent missions (is it possible to use agents as intended). Session changes (can you jump between systems, lose your ship, swap ships etc). These are some of the main problems we have everytime we do such a big patch. With the release of Dragon, the problems we had was that the server wouldnÆt start correctly and when that was fixed the **** market wouldnÆt start in all regions. With the tests we have planned, we hope to iron out these problems and catch them before we do the full release. We have a battle plan in office exactly how we are going to do this. The server will remain closed, so only CCP personal can connect. The main reason for this is we only have a 10 min time frame, so we do not want any lag and we will not be using TQÆs database, we will be using SISIÆs. ItÆs not possible to use TQÆs database because it would mean updating it to the revelations code branch and that simply isnÆt possible as we need to revert TQ back to dragon. Hopefully if all goes well we can do this on Thursday, Friday and Monday. We really hope we will find any problems we might have on the Thursday, Friday then have a stable test on the Monday and do more advanced tests after that. Helping to make deployment a smooth ride. Normal operations of TQ will continue as normal. The cluster will be started at 11:45 and will allow connections about 12:00. As a lot of you peeps have been around some time now, you will understand why we want and need to do this. Spank You later


Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:47:00 - [2] Good luck finding all thouse bugs, though im sure you dont need it . Sounds like a wise precaution after dragon problems. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long Actually we call you "Hutch" because people might get the wrong idea of 'God of Young Boys' - Cortes, sigjacker extrodinaire You can't match my sig-jacking skills Cortes!! Oh and we call you Hutch because your the anti-Hitch - Petwraith

Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:49:00 - [3] salute Looking forward to it, good luck! warp drive active \| nature vraie
DOGNOSH Minmatar SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:49:00 - [4] good luck SB,let us know if we can help p.s. I am the one who lost hotel key in Iceland and got you looking for it in the shop/till area mmmm pink Eris will approve - Xorus Xorus has been webbified - DOGNOSH
BillyBong2 Amarr Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:54:00 - [5] Good luck and thanks for heads up!
Helison Gallente Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:55:00 - [6] First thought: OMG! This could be a very good way of making sure, that the patch-DT will pass without really big problems. But: Can you promise, that you won¦t damage anything, which could prevent the startup under Dragon? This looks like a very dangerous experiment.
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:57:00 - [7] I t÷talhelldeathen approve of this innovation in patch deployment QA. Here's to hoping you'll be able to wire everything back to proper TQ status after testing or things will get very interesting very quickly -- Thukkers do
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.11.22 16:24:00 - [8] If we can get a smooth Revelations deployment out of it, I wouldn't care if you were punching orphans and stomping puppies in downtime Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Rorix Whitecloud Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.22 16:38:00 - [9] good luck :) Repopulate Low Security! Goal: To blaster-fit every Caldari ship with a gun slot! :D
Coasterbrian Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:18:00 - [10] That's a really good way to solve the problems you've been having, I'm impressed. Best of luck. ---------- I say what I mean, but I don't always mean what I say.
Hehulk FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:20:00 - [11] Wow, sweet. Good Luck with that guys ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
Regat Kozovv Caldari Orion's Forge New Eden Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:35:00 - [12] "Good idea o lord!" "OF COURSE ITS A GOOD IDEA!!!!!" I'll put a long skill in training just in case. Good luck to ye!

Eldo Davip Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:39:00 - [13] Glad to see new measures being taken to improve patch day! Goodluck Sharky! ___ Email Us (Report a bad post) \| Forum Rules \| Website EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER

Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:48:00 - [14] Cool, good plan guys :) - - - - - - - - - - "PERGITE DEGUSTATE FORMOSUM BELLUM" Forward to taste the beautifull war. . .
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:52:00 - [15] Good plan, good plan. Best of luck with it, or as we say back home "in bocca al lupo". ---------------- Kali ships worth flying left: Harbinger, Rokh. Only 2 left tux, you can make it!
Coniglietta Magica Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.22 18:17:00 - [16] Thanks for telling us what is going on.
Jet Collins Dynamic Endeavors	Posted - 2006.11.22 18:18:00 - [17] Gl and I hope us Americans do not mess you up by trying to jump on it since we have Thuresday and Friday off for the Holiday. You now how us greedy Americans can be when we don't get what we want ... And we WHAT OUR EVE ON-LINE
UclanChar	Posted - 2006.11.22 18:35:00 - [18] Good luck with that CCP, lookin forward to the new patch ( as long as all goes well )
Max Tesla	Posted - 2006.11.22 18:39:00 - [19] Will this affect missions, will they be reset or something? Or will everything be normal?
Young Blood09	Posted - 2006.11.22 18:49:00 - [20] hey sb u have any idea when it going to come out for good Thx YB
Umbriele Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.22 19:05:00 - [21] Good job! Finally CCP understand that to test new code on TQ is the ONLY way to find out problems BEFORE kali will hit TQ for real. Again, well done!
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.11.22 19:15:00 - [22] A bold plan. Not without its own dangers but a smart move none the less.
Kire Hunted	Posted - 2006.11.22 19:19:00 - [23] Sounds good. This problem prevention idea is good and I'm happy to see it. So this means it'll be more of a test and then revert with actual revelations launch as planned on the 28th then?
L0st Sanity	Posted - 2006.11.22 19:21:00 - [24] Thanks for the heads up. I think its fine that you do this, if it will make the deployment of Revelations more smooth
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas	Posted - 2006.11.22 19:30:00 - [25] You know some of us...like all americans will be off tommorrow? Well I guess I can watch a football game instead... Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
More Ahn	Posted - 2006.11.22 19:32:00 - [26] Let me see if I have this straight... You'll be running these tests during the standard down-time periods, so that we can still play over the US Thanksgiving holiday. I'm assuming that's what the "Normal operations of tranquility will continue as normal" means.
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.22 19:58:00 - [27] should continue as normal These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views This is a disclaimer
Imhotep Khem Total Mayhem.	Posted - 2006.11.22 20:01:00 - [28] Let us bow our heads. ____ "If your not dyin' your not tryin'." "Are you prepared to go all the way, Alexi?" DuGalle
Azure Eyes Minmatar	Posted - 2006.11.22 20:14:00 - [29] Seriously, how anybody claims that CCP is bad at communicating should be tied to a tree and whipped to death with printouts of this newsitem. :) Best of luck, everyone! {IMG}insert signature image{/IMG}
KingKenny	Posted - 2006.11.22 20:18:00 - [30] Take your time, extend downtime for 30mins or so. Most people at work so we wont notice. Good luck.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.22 20:30:00 - [31] Make it a 2 hour downtime. I think everybody wants you to take your time to make things work. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Silver Bird Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.22 20:39:00 - [32] Sounds like a nice mini drama, record it and play it on eve-tv for the next broadcast. Best of luck.
rodgerd Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.22 20:46:00 - [33] Good plan. -- Not the opinions of my corp or my alliance.

Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.11.22 21:47:00 - [34] i'll be honest. it's not been done before and we don't know for sure it will help us. but unless we try, we gain nothing. if it doesn't work only thing we have lost is a few hour in the day for a few people. got to be worth it imo. however, if it works. well it will make deployment smoother and it's something CCP can do for other large patches Spank You later

Kai Tei Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.11.22 22:58:00 - [35] Edited by: Kai Tei on 22/11/2006 22:59:28 Originally by: Roshan longshot You know some of us...like all americans will be off tommorrow? Well I guess I can watch a football game instead... didnt he say it will be during the normal down time period which is about 6am-7am east time U.S American, so i see no problems in missing anything, BTW no football would be on that early LOL
Xporter	Posted - 2006.11.22 23:24:00 - [36] Thanks for the heads-up and I hope it all goes as planned. Good luck
Chuck Tucker	Posted - 2006.11.23 00:58:00 - [37] cough Originally by: Sharkbait smooth cough Originally by: Sharkbait ride. /me setups long skill training Good luck, CCP cough
AirwolfRAP Gallente Saber Enterprises Safe And Fun Environment	Posted - 2006.11.23 01:00:00 - [38] Good to hear that you guys are taking a proactive approach as opposed to a reactive one. Also if all goes to plan will revelations be rolled out of the 28th as planned. You have the ring, and I see your Schwartz is as big as mine. AirwolfRAP
Xaverrii	Posted - 2006.11.23 01:42:00 - [39] Thats great to see guys,hope all goes well as I'll need my EVE fix every day cant wait for the new patch.
Svanh Mickahl Infinite Dreams Inc	Posted - 2006.11.23 01:49:00 - [40] Okay I am glad all the Euros are saying this is okay, what the CRAP is CCP thinking. Thrusday is a major US holiday which means US players will be lining up to enjoy some play time. So you are gonna test stuff on the holiday? Guys this is seriously crazy save it for Friday but PLEASE do not do this on a major US holiday and risk making the US players have to sit on their thumbs! For limitless possibilities, you need Infinite Dreams ====================================== Svanh Mickahl CEO, Infinite Dreams
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.11.23 02:14:00 - [41] Downtime is in GMT the closest US timezone is -5hrs. how many people from the US are playing EVE at that time. i know ill be getting up for a car trip to the boston area at around the time TQ is coming up. hmm too bad i dont have WiMAX as im not driving.
Drakma Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.23 02:30:00 - [42] Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker Downtime is in GMT the closest US timezone is -5hrs. how many people from the US are playing EVE at that time. i know ill be getting up for a car trip to the boston area at around the time TQ is coming up. hmm too bad i dont have WiMAX as im not driving. It's not about when it goes down, but when/if it comes back up.
Pellaeonn	Posted - 2006.11.23 02:36:00 - [43] Originally by: Svanh Mickahl Okay I am glad all the Euros are saying this is okay, what the CRAP is CCP thinking. Thrusday is a major US holiday which means US players will be lining up to enjoy some play time. So you are gonna test stuff on the holiday? Guys this is seriously crazy save it for Friday but PLEASE do not do this on a major US holiday and risk making the US players have to sit on their thumbs! Care factor is less than ZERO, EVE just is'nt played in the US you know, build a brigde my friend & get over it. Sigh when are you guys going realize that the rest of the world doesnt care what you think.
Angeldust Omega Fleet Enterprises Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.23 02:40:00 - [44] Originally by: Sharkbait i'll be honest. it's not been done before and we don't know for sure it will help us. but unless we try, we gain nothing. if it doesn't work only thing we have lost is a few hour in the day for a few people. got to be worth it imo. however, if it works. well it will make deployment smoother and it's something CCP can do for other large patches Honestly informing the community of whats going on ftw. Delays/DTs are so much easier to endure that way. Good Luck and may it improve patch deployment.
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.11.23 03:40:00 - [45] i would suggest keeping various shamen/priests/witchdoctors on site before startup. both on the 23rd and 28th. maybe even sacrifice a few virgins and goats, just to play on the safe side. thx for the heads up! g/l !
Dream Theater	Posted - 2006.11.23 04:19:00 - [46] good luck, and happy thanksgiving.
Sylthi Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic	Posted - 2006.11.23 04:25:00 - [47] GREAT IDEA and GREAT NEWS! Really. Just, uh, ummm, why did it take YEARS of customers bleeding out the eyes with suffering from bad/sloppy patch procedures for you guys to come up with this? Just saying..... But, in all seriousness, and with all sincerity, good luck. I REALLY hope you learn something from the process. And even if you don't, KEEP TRYING. Anything you can do to get these nightmare patches under control is a good thing. Cheers all! Let me know if my services are needed to sacrifice small animals for good omens and smooth sailing... * *
Svanh Mickahl Infinite Dreams Inc	Posted - 2006.11.23 04:26:00 - [48] Originally by: Pellaeonn Originally by: Svanh Mickahl Okay I am glad all the Euros are saying this is okay, what the CRAP is CCP thinking. Thrusday is a major US holiday which means US players will be lining up to enjoy some play time. So you are gonna test stuff on the holiday? Guys this is seriously crazy save it for Friday but PLEASE do not do this on a major US holiday and risk making the US players have to sit on their thumbs! Care factor is less than ZERO, EVE just is'nt played in the US you know, build a brigde my friend & get over it. Sigh when are you guys going realize that the rest of the world doesnt care what you think. You know this attitude is pathetic, I would call for the same consideration for a major holliday ANYWHERE a big player base was. It is not about it being US based but rather a fact that 30% or better of the subscribers are about to have a major free day at once and they are doing a test that in theory could ruin that day for those players. For limitless possibilities, you need Infinite Dreams ====================================== Svanh Mickahl CEO, Infinite Dreams
Zippy Caldari Free Imperial Vikings	Posted - 2006.11.23 05:24:00 - [49] Uhh good luck _________________________________ Less whining, more mining!
Feng Schui Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.11.23 05:39:00 - [50] Edited by: Feng Schui on 23/11/2006 05:39:22 ok... for the USA naysayers... I'm on EST.. which means, I'm "closer" to GMT than central / west coast peeps.. downtime is 6am - 7am for me.. CST: 5am - 6am PST: 3am - 4am and I am missing a timezone.. or i suck at timezones.. one of the other.. something like that. So if, lets say... server doesn't come back up until noon GMT (12:00 eve-time)... that is still 8 am for ME.. If you are trying to play Eve Online (or any MMORPG).. that early in the morning (unless you work 3rd shift).. and it is your day off.. Go seek help now On second thoughts, here I was getting all happy about Revelations being patched early
Nadine Desaix Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.23 06:11:00 - [51] Excellent idea. And to all those who are concerned about having TQ potentially crash, I believe shark pointed out they're using seperate databases. Even if it crashes it will come back up soon enough. The fewer problems we have when Revelations is deployed the better. I'd gladly sacrifice a few hours of play for a patch that doesn't require crash fixes the day it comes out. Minister of Leaky Ethics and Spiffiness
More Ahn	Posted - 2006.11.23 06:17:00 - [52] Cool, looks like I was right. You're testing the deployment during downtime, and if all goes well the downtime won't be extended much. Neat idea.
Hablacraja Relic Defense Initiative The OSS	Posted - 2006.11.23 06:59:00 - [53] Edited by: Hablacraja on 23/11/2006 06:59:50 Excellent. Good luck, devs, hard work and thoroughness will pay off in the end. /me smiling, quickly and discreetly changes skill to a V...
Dwindlehop F13	Posted - 2006.11.23 07:15:00 - [54] Weren't most of the problems with the Dragon release related to the differences between the databases between Singularity and Tranquility? I fail to see how testing with the test database will prevent future problems like Dragon experienced. More testing before release is good, though.
Ralitge boyter Minmatar DeStInY.	Posted - 2006.11.23 08:45:00 - [55] How certain are you that after the upgrade the downgrade will be just as smooth? As far as I know there has never been a downgrade of TQ like that, so we might just loose a day or two of TQ due to issues downgrading and starting up the market or the agent missions and so on. Anyway I'll see about sacrificing a goat or two and of course setting a very long skill in training. ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me.
Charon Gonzales	Posted - 2006.11.23 09:09:00 - [56] finnaly a good approach! extend the dt for 1h everey day if you need to, its a small price to pay for smooth release, losing a hour or two per day is small thing compared to broken game for months :)

Valar	Posted - 2006.11.23 09:09:00 - [57] Originally by: Ralitge boyter How certain are you that after the upgrade the downgrade will be just as smooth? As far as I know there has never been a downgrade of TQ like that, so we might just loose a day or two of TQ due to issues downgrading and starting up the market or the agent missions and so on. Anyway I'll see about sacrificing a goat or two and of course setting a very long skill in training. Well, you don't have to worry. We are not actually upgrading anything or changing anything thats related to the normal operation of TQ. We will deploy the Kali code in a separate folder on the cluster, running on a separate database server, so the normal TQ code/database will not be touched at all. All we have to do to revert is to kill the Kali processes on the cluster and start up TQ like normally. ------ Valar Database admin - Server operations team CCP Games How to write a good bugreport


Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.11.23 10:18:00 - [58] ok we are finalizing the setup now and will be ready in 10 mins or so. there is 3 of us who will be reviewing the logs for errors after we have finished. i will ofcourse keep you updated with information as we get the information. Spank You later

Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.23 10:50:00 - [59] Originally by: Sharkbait ok we are finalizing the setup now and will be ready in 10 mins or so. there is 3 of us who will be reviewing the logs for errors after we have finished. i will ofcourse keep you updated with information as we get the information. Good luck guys. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
ElrondMD The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.11.23 10:59:00 - [60] Great work guys, as someone who has DT from 7pm-8pm every day and is completely effected by any DT outages, take all the time you need, the shortsighted people here whinging are the same people who would be whinging if the patch were deployed with major bugs due to a lack of testing, some people will never be happy.
phantomista Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:09:00 - [61] go for it ccp take all the time u want the faster the bugs are gone the faster kali wil arrive http://monstersgame.nl/?ac=vid&vid=12009993 Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Caledric Amarr Spectral Armada Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:32:00 - [62] Edited by: Caledric on 23/11/2006 11:33:17 Is it up yet? Huh? Huh? I'm impatient ;p Can't seem to get back to sleep and need something to do... <stares at WoW> no raids in WoW so no reason to login that game... nothing else to do... I going insane! Oh and for those who say I need a life for being up this early and trying to login (yeah I'm east coast) I'm in the US military... the past 3 days (prior to last night) I had 5 hours sleep and Zero EVE playing time total... I just finally got a good 8 hours sleep last night and now I can't get back to sleep and I want to play!
James Duar Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:41:00 - [63] This is pretty awesome, because it gives me the confidence to continue not cleaning up my insta collection. On a related note, what applications do the cluster machines actually run in order to startup? Do you just hit up Tranquility.exe or what?
MOS DEF Devils Rejects	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:43:00 - [64] I liek the idea. Good to see CCP is learning from it's errors.
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:44:00 - [65] So, has TQ survived this test? _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Caledric Amarr Spectral Armada Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:45:00 - [66] The Devs are taunting us! TQ is up and running with a patch that we cant download!

Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:48:00 - [67] ok. status. we had problems. we tried 3 startup's and none of them worked. while this sounds bad, it's really good as we might have had these problems when we deployed. me, zulupark and nozh are reading the logs now and i will try to give you more information. Spank You later

Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:50:00 - [68] Originally by: Sharkbait ok. status. we had problems. we tried 3 startup's and none of them worked. while this sounds bad, it's really good as we might have had these problems when we deployed. me, zulupark and nozh are reading the logs now and i will try to give you more information. Yeah, I think its good too. Then the test was valuable and will provide lots of good info. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Gtok Minmatar Templars of Space CORE.	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:51:00 - [69] Sharkbait! Hoo ha ha! GJ. Lets see how it goes gettting TQ back up G
MOS DEF Devils Rejects	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:53:00 - [70] Everythign else would've surprised us anyways. It's good you can look into these problems now rather then after the deployment though.
Kannteir Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:53:00 - [71] I can't tell you how much the frequent updates mean to us sharkbait,thanks for taking a few minutes to let the playerbase (on the edge of their seat) know what's going on. Looking forward to more updates.
KingAc Minmatar North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:56:00 - [72] Use the secret kladdkaka admin acces and it will work the next time.

Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.11.23 12:00:00 - [73] TQ is now back online running Dragon code branch and allowing connections Spank You later

Phichi Team Americas Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.23 12:01:00 - [74] Edited by: Phichi on 23/11/2006 12:02:04 As anyone that has ever implemented any major server or network upgrade knows.... it never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.... (do i really need to type it out anymore?) really goes entirely to plan. Somthing always bugs out and its just the way running out this much code is. On that note I have to say that the ccp team has never in my eyes done a bad patch job. People complain about an extra day or that somthing minor bugs out for a week blah blah blah. But in the end these guys actually work their tails off to make us happy in the first place, and when that murphys law thing takes hold... they work their tails off to fix it. Now the people that say "Well thats what they get paid for". They don't know **, cause they have obviously never worked in the corporate world where you can get rewarded for providing no customer service and still takin the customers money ( just ask microsoft, verizon, sony, aol, hp, tyco, or any company i have ever worked for. etc...) In the end, I expect some major hiccups with a patch the size of kali... but looking at the cool ** they are coming up with, I don't care cause I know they are prepping for it the best they can. Rock on. Muggers point out failures in one's personal security measures, but it does not alter the fact that they are muggers.
Trigger64 Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.23 12:03:00 - [75] Edited by: Trigger64 on 23/11/2006 12:04:33 double post ftl :( Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
Trigger64 Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.23 12:04:00 - [76] Originally by: BillyBong2 Good luck and thanks for heads up! God **** billy.. what a sexy sig.. Who in the world made it for you.. P.S. GL SB Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
KillinVillin	Posted - 2006.11.23 12:52:00 - [77] Could i get acess to the test server please?
daPing	Posted - 2006.11.23 13:46:00 - [78] Originally by: Phichi Edited by: Phichi on 23/11/2006 12:02:04 As anyone that has ever implemented any major server or network upgrade knows.... it never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.... (do i really need to type it out anymore?) really goes entirely to plan. Somthing always bugs out and its just the way running out this much code is. On that note I have to say that the ccp team has never in my eyes done a bad patch job. People complain about an extra day or that somthing minor bugs out for a week blah blah blah. But in the end these guys actually work their tails off to make us happy in the first place, and when that murphys law thing takes hold... they work their tails off to fix it. Now the people that say "Well thats what they get paid for". They don't know **, cause they have obviously never worked in the corporate world where you can get rewarded for providing no customer service and still takin the customers money ( just ask microsoft, verizon, sony, aol, hp, tyco, or any company i have ever worked for. etc...) In the end, I expect some major hiccups with a patch the size of kali... but looking at the cool ** they are coming up with, I don't care cause I know they are prepping for it the best they can. Rock on. Best post here. 2nded.
7395 Minmatar The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.11.23 14:52:00 - [79] WoOt, good luck guys, my fingers r crossed
Kaden Seer Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.23 15:54:00 - [80] ah, this means "soon(tm)" has become "really soon(tm)" I knew Kali would be here this year, I knew it!
Slaughty Bodphast Gallente Pale Riders Incorporated	Posted - 2006.11.23 19:01:00 - [81] WTG, glad you tested it before deployment. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to Kali. Veni, vidi, vici
Phichi Team Americas Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.23 20:35:00 - [82] Originally by: Phichi Edited by: Phichi on 23/11/2006 12:02:04 As anyone that has ever implemented any major server or network upgrade knows.... it never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.... (do i really need to type it out anymore?) really goes entirely to plan. Somthing always bugs out and its just the way running out this much code is. On that note I have to say that the ccp team has never in my eyes done a bad patch job. People complain about an extra day or that somthing minor bugs out for a week blah blah blah. But in the end these guys actually work their tails off to make us happy in the first place, and when that murphys law thing takes hold... they work their tails off to fix it. Now the people that say "Well thats what they get paid for". They don't know **, cause they have obviously never worked in the corporate world where you can get rewarded for providing no customer service and still takin the customers money ( just ask microsoft, verizon, sony, aol, hp, tyco, or any company i have ever worked for. etc...) In the end, I expect some major hiccups with a patch the size of kali... but looking at the cool ** they are coming up with, I don't care cause I know they are prepping for it the best they can. Rock on. Lol i was drinking tequila and hammered when i wrote this... and it actually turned out spelled reasonably well and legible. Wow i rock. haha Muggers point out failures in one's personal security measures, but it does not alter the fact that they are muggers.
Aftiel Ascendant Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.23 22:26:00 - [83] Originally by: Verus Potestas If we can get a smooth Revelations deployment out of it, I wouldn't care if you were punching orphans and stomping puppies in downtime Amen. Really great idea. Best of luck. And TYVM for the notice! /me -=heart=- CCP "The avalanche has already begun. It is too late for the pebbles to vote" *Any posts made by me are my personal opinion and in no way reflect the view of my Alliance or Corp

Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.11.23 23:03:00 - [84] ok some of the problems we had today have been sorted and will not effect us on deployment. we are doing another run tomorrow, hopefully we can get the server started. if not then i'm 99% sure that it will be something else we will have on deployment day. anyways we will see. fingers crossed guys and gals Spank You later

Edison Frisk Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.23 23:12:00 - [85] Originally by: Sharkbait ok some of the problems we had today have been sorted and will not effect us on deployment. we are doing another run tomorrow, hopefully we can get the server started. if not then i'm 99% sure that it will be something else we will have on deployment day. anyways we will see. fingers crossed guys and gals magnifico
Hehulk FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.23 23:46:00 - [86] Originally by: Sharkbait ok some of the problems we had today have been sorted and will not effect us on deployment. we are doing another run tomorrow, hopefully we can get the server started. if not then i'm 99% sure that it will be something else we will have on deployment day. anyways we will see. fingers crossed guys and gals Sweet news, Gl for tommorow ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
Hilabana Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.11.24 00:44:00 - [87] i know you can get it working great after all your a eve jovian god and we trust in you 100 %.! as for me i think i will move every thing i have to one system and one base just so if my agains go poof again and other items go missing i will make it less probs to get them back by having every thing at one place... Thank you for the best game ever made ! and thats not kissing up thats a FACT !
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2006.11.24 01:47:00 - [88] Originally by: Edison Frisk Originally by: Sharkbait ok some of the problems we had today have been sorted and will not effect us on deployment. we are doing another run tomorrow, hopefully we can get the server started. if not then i'm 99% sure that it will be something else we will have on deployment day. anyways we will see. fingers crossed guys and gals magnifico qft! Hope the next test goes as smooth as the first one, and with twice the needed results
NotNowKato Gallente Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.24 01:54:00 - [89] Sounds like its all coming together now

Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.11.24 14:02:00 - [90] hit a few problems today, we kept having nodes dying on startup. not sure why yet but it's being looked into. looks like these tests are worth us doing hopefully we can maybe get some more done this weekend, but i need to get clearance from the higher powers for that. Spank You later

Cats Caldari M'8'S	Posted - 2006.11.24 14:10:00 - [91] Really looking forwad to Revelations. also nice to be kept up to date with whats going on with testing and stuff. Good job guys
Jet Collins Dynamic Endeavors	Posted - 2006.11.24 15:29:00 - [92] Originally by: Sharkbait hit a few problems today, we kept having nodes dying on startup. not sure why yet but it's being looked into. looks like these tests are worth us doing hopefully we can maybe get some more done this weekend, but i need to get clearance from the higher powers for that. Looks like its a really good idea that your doing these tests. Keep doing them this weekend. Personally I think you should keep doing it until it seems to be loading correctly. Doesn't btoher me it the servers are down an extra hour sure it might cut into my play time this weekend but I would rather see this than a bad deplyment on Tuesday. It would be a nice change to set on the server after a new deployment and see no lag/bugs/errors for a change . although I know there will be bugs but no errors and lag I can go with out.
Paddlefoot Aeon Neogen Industries Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2006.11.24 15:31:00 - [93] Originally by: Jet Collins Originally by: Sharkbait hit a few problems today, we kept having nodes dying on startup. not sure why yet but it's being looked into. looks like these tests are worth us doing hopefully we can maybe get some more done this weekend, but i need to get clearance from the higher powers for that. Looks like its a really good idea that your doing these tests. Keep doing them this weekend. So... you see yourself as a "higher power", then?

Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.11.25 15:14:00 - [94] we are not able to do them this weekend. part of the problem we are having is a firewall between sisi's database and the network TQ is on. security on the network is very high in the office and even higher in the server room in london. TQ and sisi are on different networks and are only linked through a firewall. this firewall is causing us problems. we are going to try again on monday and see if we can do it then. Spank You later

Kubbur	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:48:00 - [95] vpn ? ----------
Dao 2 Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.27 07:24:00 - [96] >< but that means the problem with the firewall wont be there when its finally all patched right:\|? ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.27 20:11:00 - [97] Any news on this? Originally by: Dwight Hammerhead . Just because Kali is already in testing. If CCP were actually concerned about what ppl think they would of opened it up for discussion.
Solan Dreamscape Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2006.11.27 23:15:00 - [98] Any word on how todays went? Did you get it to work this time? -Solan
Fuujin Hadean Drive Yards	Posted - 2006.11.29 04:16:00 - [99] Rather smoothly! Hadean Drive Yards Tier 2 BC Pricing

Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.12.03 16:09:00 - [100] sry forgot to respond to this post, been very busy basically the tests we tried to do was almost worthless we think. the firewall was causing some problems and it's quite possible some of the errors we saw in the logs was due to the firewall. it's also possible that there might have been errors in the logfiles that also happened on deployment night, but i dismissed them and blamed them on the firewall. there was 1 problem we had on the trials that i'm 50% sure we had on deployment night, basically it's the information passed between each node at startup was too high and screwing things up, this did happen on the trials but it could have been the firewall blocking the information and therefore screwing the nodes up. anyways as we didn't effect TQ's normal operations with the trials, it's very possible the higher powers will let us try this again. over the next month or 2 we will be looking at a way we can try this again and maybe use the method for the 2nd part of revelations. Spank You later


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