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Ninurta
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Posted - 2006.11.23 00:41:00 -
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This is weird: If u have rigs on your ships and want to move them to another location and don't want to make jumps with every single ship, u will load them into a freigher. But, if you want to use a freighter u have to repack your ships that u want to move. And by doing that u will destroy the rigs on your ships... This is almost a moment-22. 
I'm a mission runner and make missions at several location seperated by several jumps. I always use a BS, Covetor, Indy for looting and a fast little inty for fast travelling. Instead of jumping forth and back with every single ship I use a freighter to move them AND save time. This will be impossible in the future and I wonder if CCP have thought abot this... 
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Arushia
Nova Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.23 08:20:00 -
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Then don't rig your ships. You're already constantly voiding their insurance like that.
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Jack Nuddels
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Posted - 2006.11.23 08:22:00 -
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bump
i got the same situation.....
rigs always still destroyed if you repacked the ship?
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2006.11.23 08:26:00 -
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Seems rigs works like insurances..
If you repackage a ship, you lose the incurance.
So it works with rigs.
No problem here, just how it works.
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skillbuyer
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Posted - 2006.11.23 09:00:00 -
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You can transport ships unpackaged IIRC
They just take a lot more cargo space that way.
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BBQ
Gallente
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2006.11.23 09:14:00 -
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or you could have more than one ship at each location setup with rigs to make it the best at tanking the common damage at each location.
That way you only need to fly the loot collecting ship everywhere. Dont forget that the chances look good for Warp to 0 so travel wont be such a big problem BUT I guess you are already using bookmarks seeing as you have a frieghter
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Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2006.11.23 12:54:00 -
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 Originally by: skillbuyer
You can transport ships unpackaged IIRC
They just take a lot more cargo space that way.
No. You can't. Even if it in theory could fit, you are told to repack it before putting it in.
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FalconHawk
Amarr
Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.23 13:18:00 -
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simple solution: get a carrier and do your missions in low sec 
and that words from a carebaer like me
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Kassidus
Gallente
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2006.11.23 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Arushia
Then don't rig your ships. You're already constantly voiding their insurance like that.
lol who buys insurance, mind you ive never lost a ship and have never bought insurance its such a waste of money.
well maybee unless you were a pirate, there so emo
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Frater Perdurabo
The Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria
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Posted - 2006.11.23 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kassidus
...mind you ive never lost a ship...
If this is the case i suggest you get out and enjoy the more fun aspects of eve a bit more, like, you know, pew pew at other people, it can be fun! honest. People who say 'ive never lost a ship' are clearly missing out on something big.
Originally by: Kassidus
well maybee unless you were a pirate, there so emo
Yay! where would we be without generalisations  (luckily im not a pirate so i wont have to cut myself as a result of reading this  )
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Brazero
Amarr
Noble House
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Posted - 2006.11.23 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Frater Perdurabo
Originally by: Kassidus
...mind you ive never lost a ship...
If this is the case i suggest you get out and enjoy the more fun aspects of eve a bit more, like, you know, pew pew at other people, it can be fun! honest. People who say 'ive never lost a ship' are clearly missing out on something big.
Originally by: Kassidus
well maybee unless you were a pirate, there so emo
Yay! where would we be without generalisations (luckily im not a pirate so i wont have to cut myself as a result of reading this )
Perhaps you should do just that. It's not for you to decide how the game is supposed to be played, or what is fun or not.
Insurance is the most lame thing ingame, if you're not capable of funding you "fun", you shouldn't be having fun in the first place, or you're not very good at having fun.
That's just how it is. Try to have fun for a while without relying on some lame game mechanics to cover your loss.
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.23 15:18:00 -
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Frater Perdurabo
The Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria
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Posted - 2006.11.23 15:33:00 -
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Hmmm, i got quoted but i dont think i mentioned insurance anywhere in my post, I was comenting on something entirely unrelated (see sig for details)
But for the record, I too would like insurance to be removed.
I do however think we should be able to put unpackaged ships in freighters... unpackaged takes up more room, so there would already be a built in penalty.
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.11.23 15:40:00 -
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you can transport them in carriers, unpacked iirc.
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UPS Man
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Posted - 2006.11.23 16:17:00 -
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Carriers have a 500,000m¦ ship maintainence array, so can take any assembled ships smaller than that. Battlecruisers and industrials are the largest that will fit - no battleships.
Motherships have 2,500,000m¦ space, and are able to move assembled battleships as well as anything smaller.
The only ships that can't fit in another are capitals/freighters, but there's no change there anyway.
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Amarria Lightwielder
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.23 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Amarria Lightwielder on 23/11/2006 16:24:02
Well that sucks tbh.
Alot of corps move around alot, like mercs or alliances on the warpath. People don't wanna fly 40 battleships from one side of the galaxy to another so they use a freighter, and for a large corp carriers can be to little capacity when it comes to larger ships.
Is it not posible to make repackaged ships with rigs into an unique object that is a normal repackaged ship, but with the rigs still inside. And if you wanted to get a normal ship they could ask you if you wanted the rigs to be deleted or not when repackaging.
And for people who use this tactic now, insurance is just bs. I havn't used insurance for my 3 years in eve, and I've saved money doing so.
edit: I condone the unpackaged ships in freighters aswell
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Blind Man
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.11.23 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Blind Man on 23/11/2006 16:38:13
nvm
Sig removed.\o/
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Rafein
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.23 18:52:00 -
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Get more ships???
no penalty for owning more than one ship, ya know.
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Lamb Chop
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.23 19:49:00 -
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To be perfectly honest this is a show stopper for combat characters. And especially mercenary corporations unless rigs are very very cheap to manufacture which i doubt they will be.
As a merc corp, we move into a contract area/combat zone with 6-7 freighters containing everyones ships and modules. Due to nature of our play style, having 1 ship only is not an alternative and next contract are can be as far as 60 jumps or even more.
Carriers with their limited hangar capacity is not an option at all, although we have about 15 of them, all of those do not match a single freighter and it gets worst considering ships have to be assembled to go into a freighter.
I know some wise a$$ is gonna say get motherships but at the price of 30 billion each and not much more hangar capacity that is not an option.
This needs to be fixed and a very serious design flaw considering how you made this game previously.
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DukeJoost1
The Last Solution Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.23 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon
you can transport them in carriers, unpacked iirc.
but since no carriers in empire, thats not a suggestion which works.
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Amarria Lightwielder
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.23 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
Get more ships???
no penalty for owning more than one ship, ya know.
get more ships? what kind of silly argument is that.
yes of course I should park one abbadon in every region in eve, why didn't I think of that?!
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.23 20:22:00 -
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This is VERY bad for mobile combat forces.
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Chochko
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.23 20:35:00 -
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This is so gonna end the Mobile and Raiding Forces competition versus Steady Home alliances and corps ...
I forsee serious rice in merc prices in near future.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.23 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kassidus
Originally by: Arushia
Then don't rig your ships. You're already constantly voiding their insurance like that.
lol who buys insurance, mind you ive never lost a ship and have never bought insurance its such a waste of money.
You are playing all wrong.
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing.
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Lamb Chop
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.23 22:26:00 -
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Bump,
I want this stickied and i know devs are very busy but we need an answer to this...
I have not come up with an alternative but i am sure someone will eventually...
Keep bumping this pls
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Cryten Jones
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.23 23:48:00 -
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Have to say that I agree with this if only because of the 'moving home' thing, it was a total PITA before freigters and now you are exluded from a new feature if you are mobile.
-CJ
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Agrias Hellion
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Posted - 2006.11.24 03:15:00 -
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Off topic, if a freighter gets popped while transporting ships do they pop out like golden eggs? 
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IHaveTenFingers
Caldari
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2006.11.24 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: FalconHawk
simple solution: get a carrier and do your missions in low sec
and that words from a carebaer like me
Uhhh no? Most if not all missions are deadspace now and carriers cant use acceleration gates.
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