That statement may be true in a sense whereas a criminal may get away with committing a crime the first few times but in real life they are soon hunted down, incarcerated and or put to death.

Anyway, nice try at using that as an example for justification.


DMC

... the fact that a group of players have made it their mission in game to discriminate, harass and grief others who engage in a specific type of play-style. Definitely goes against the ToS.

As for the rest of you....
*popcorn*

Yeah about the OP, it's simply amazing to see a majority of people all gang up and sway the viewpoint of a single person.

As for the relevance of CODE and other ganking groups, I still stand by my original statement in my previous reply.

Regarding CODE however, unfortunately they've decided to war dec our 3 man corp which may render the game pretty much unplayable for us (or at the the way we want to play it) until that's over. Still, we all have a backlog of other games to catch up on!

Suicide ganking is literally killing the game. Jack told me he quit, because he lost his venture to a ganker. He was only a day old and he got harassed extensively. We need to end this madness. I think the best way to deal with this issue would be if all those who don't like it just stopped playing. No forum posting either. That will send the proper message to CCP! They will learn that suddenly no one provides any content anymore and will finally remove suicide ganking from highsec.

I am Jack's vocal cords.

Just close the corp and reform it. Stay in an NPC Corp for a week until this whole thing is forgotten and then continue on.

Alternatively, just move out of highsec or move to somewhere that only 1-2 agents patrol and go have some pvp fun.

A wardec is no reason to stop playing the game.

Your corp not!
But when I see your char and your gold pod killmail I am sure you can. And you have flown the freighter, so it was your mistake.

From my perspective the solution is clear. Pay back to your corp what you lost for them.

If you are smart, you don't even need to jump around highsec, though that works perfectly fine too. The 90% reduction in fatigue makes it possible to chain jumps together without too much hassle.

My industry alt does the Stacmon -> Dodixie -> Jita and return run twice a week.

I just put a cyno alt in Yvangier waiting on station to be lit if needed. Yvangier can be jumped to from every single system along that run (all her jump skills are at level IV). So if there was ever any problem, I would light the cyno and jump. Gone within a few seconds even before any issue starts.

She does Stacmon->Amarr and Dodixie->Hek runs (I jump directly into lowsec on that run and then warp back out to highsec). No matter what route there is through highsec, there's always a good lowsec system to stage a cyno alt.

I've never had to do it on the Jita run (I usually jump back into Hevrice on the way back and from there into Syndicate, avoiding all the trouble gank systems), because all of the other methods work perfectly too.

Dear CCP,

After over 2 years of play, I will be cancelling my EVE sub at the end of July.

Today, I was ganked in high sec in a freighter - the freighter some people bought a PLEX for and donated that ISK to the corp so we could buy it.

It started when roughly 3 ships started to intercept me at a gate which kept knocking me of course and in turn prevented me from warping.
I was then asked for 300 mil in ISK for a GÇ£passGÇ¥ which I refused and to be frank I would actually call that a ransom.
After that someone else tried to contact me but I refused their chat invite and then 19 ships decided to take out me out.
The freighter was lost and so was our Orca which again was bought for by player donations. Over 2 billion in losses which our corp simply canGÇÖt afford to replace.

If that grief wasnGÇÖt enough one of the gankers then decided to join our open recruitment channel to then inform us (if we didnGÇÖt already know by this point) we had been ganked and then posted our kill reports to us. We were then informed that I should have indeed bought a GÇ£passGÇ¥. All this was in high sec on my way to Jita and to quite frank a little creepy.

EVE is demanding, and at times punishing, itGÇÖs part of the game but it is also very rewarding. We were hoping to set up POSGÇÖs to start moon mining and ice mining - something weGÇÖd been looking forward to for some time and building up towards it but with the loss of our only freighter and Orca it now means that our plan is on indefinite hiatus.
Just as we had started to get somewhere weGÇÖre pushed to the ground and now we just donGÇÖt feel like getting up again.

Concord just isnGÇÖt enough and did absolutely nothing. It doesnGÇÖt protect you against extortion so where were / are the in game mods? Or better yet why not have Honorary Concord Members who are players protecting players against attacks like this?

People will claim itGÇÖs part of GÇ£freedomGÇ¥ within the game but whereGÇÖs my freedom to be able to move from one high sec system to another and not being extorted for ISK?

I enjoy EVE, I bought the Second Decade set, the LE Source book and the LE Art of New Eden books so itGÇÖs like having to leave a club you enjoy going to because there is a large group making your time there unpleasant for you so to be honest itGÇÖs sad to go but unless we start again from the start, we have no way of moving forward.

Sorry for the moan but really, extorting ISK out of players is really a step too far.

Kind regards
Finn McCoul

Dear CCP,

After over 2 years of play, I will be cancelling my EVE sub at the end of July.

Today, I was ganked in high sec in a freighter - the freighter some people bought a PLEX for and donated that ISK to the corp so we could buy it.

It started when roughly 3 ships started to intercept me at a gate which kept knocking me of course and in turn prevented me from warping.
I was then asked for 300 mil in ISK for a GÇ£passGÇ¥ which I refused and to be frank I would actually call that a ransom.
After that someone else tried to contact me but I refused their chat invite and then 19 ships decided to take out me out.
The freighter was lost and so was our Orca which again was bought for by player donations. Over 2 billion in losses which our corp simply canGÇÖt afford to replace.

If that grief wasnGÇÖt enough one of the gankers then decided to join our open recruitment channel to then inform us (if we didnGÇÖt already know by this point) we had been ganked and then posted our kill reports to us. We were then informed that I should have indeed bought a GÇ£passGÇ¥. All this was in high sec on my way to Jita and to quite frank a little creepy.

EVE is demanding, and at times punishing, itGÇÖs part of the game but it is also very rewarding. We were hoping to set up POSGÇÖs to start moon mining and ice mining - something weGÇÖd been looking forward to for some time and building up towards it but with the loss of our only freighter and Orca it now means that our plan is on indefinite hiatus.
Just as we had started to get somewhere weGÇÖre pushed to the ground and now we just donGÇÖt feel like getting up again.

Concord just isnGÇÖt enough and did absolutely nothing. It doesnGÇÖt protect you against extortion so where were / are the in game mods? Or better yet why not have Honorary Concord Members who are players protecting players against attacks like this?

People will claim itGÇÖs part of GÇ£freedomGÇ¥ within the game but whereGÇÖs my freedom to be able to move from one high sec system to another and not being extorted for ISK?

I enjoy EVE, I bought the Second Decade set, the LE Source book and the LE Art of New Eden books so itGÇÖs like having to leave a club you enjoy going to because there is a large group making your time there unpleasant for you so to be honest itGÇÖs sad to go but unless we start again from the start, we have no way of moving forward.

Sorry for the moan but really, extorting ISK out of players is really a step too far.

Kind regards
Finn McCoul

The Space Justice Warriors are in high dudgeon today. Unfortunately for them, they're still using the same old lie that ganking hurts new players, and the same old bullshit claim that ganking(or any non consensual PvP) equates to griefing.

But fortunately for all of the real players, since the only authority that matters has already told the Space Justice Warriors to STFU, they're in dire need of a new Space Justice narrative to try and force on others.

You got a fleet of ~10 in your escort and you still lost a freighter? There are a gazillion tactics I really wont tell you (bad for business) that come to my mind how you could counter a gank with such an escort...

Maybe you are just bad at the game?

That was just an attempt at counter-ganking I set up in may in Jita. The freighter wasn't ours.
Needless to say, the attempt failed spectacularly - just another proof that shooting, jamming and repping does pretty much nothing.

This is a difficult one, on the one hand I see where you're coming from and I appreciate what you've said, on the other however I disagree people ganged up on to help sway my viewpoint.

Initially I was annoyed, perhaps mostly at my own stupidity but also for the fact I felt the whole bumping me of course felt unfair which I've discussed in another post.

The general consensus however from most people on here was pretty much learn from it, move on and also don't cry on the forums. Some posts were harsher than others but still, the same message was there and the vast majority of people I agreed with. If I didn't agree with what was said I would have cancelled, uninstalled and moved on by now.

Yeah about the OP, it's simply amazing to see a majority of people all gang up and sway the viewpoint of a single person.

As for the relevance of CODE and other ganking groups, I still stand by my original statement in my previous reply.



DMC

And you tried that with ~10 friends? Wow, if you fail you fail hard. This is in no way proof that all the stuff you tried does nothing. It's just another proof that anti-gankers always fail because they are really bad at EVE and fail to work together.

Counter-gank is impossible, neither theoretically, nor practically. Your fat pretending that there is a way to counter it is 1/10.

Counter-gank is impossible, neither theoretically, nor practically. Your fat pretending that there is a way to counter it is 1/10.

Dear CCP,

After over 2 years of play, I will be cancelling my EVE sub at the end of July.

Today, I was ganked in high sec in a freighter - the freighter some people bought a PLEX for and donated that ISK to the corp so we could buy it.

It started when roughly 3 ships started to intercept me at a gate which kept knocking me of course and in turn prevented me from warping.
I was then asked for 300 mil in ISK for a GÇ£passGÇ¥ which I refused and to be frank I would actually call that a ransom.
After that someone else tried to contact me but I refused their chat invite and then 19 ships decided to take out me out.
The freighter was lost and so was our Orca which again was bought for by player donations. Over 2 billion in losses which our corp simply canGÇÖt afford to replace.

If that grief wasnGÇÖt enough one of the gankers then decided to join our open recruitment channel to then inform us (if we didnGÇÖt already know by this point) we had been ganked and then posted our kill reports to us. We were then informed that I should have indeed bought a GÇ£passGÇ¥. All this was in high sec on my way to Jita and to quite frank a little creepy.

EVE is demanding, and at times punishing, itGÇÖs part of the game but it is also very rewarding. We were hoping to set up POSGÇÖs to start moon mining and ice mining - something weGÇÖd been looking forward to for some time and building up towards it but with the loss of our only freighter and Orca it now means that our plan is on indefinite hiatus.
Just as we had started to get somewhere weGÇÖre pushed to the ground and now we just donGÇÖt feel like getting up again.

Concord just isnGÇÖt enough and did absolutely nothing. It doesnGÇÖt protect you against extortion so where were / are the in game mods? Or better yet why not have Honorary Concord Members who are players protecting players against attacks like this?

People will claim itGÇÖs part of GÇ£freedomGÇ¥ within the game but whereGÇÖs my freedom to be able to move from one high sec system to another and not being extorted for ISK?

I enjoy EVE, I bought the Second Decade set, the LE Source book and the LE Art of New Eden books so itGÇÖs like having to leave a club you enjoy going to because there is a large group making your time there unpleasant for you so to be honest itGÇÖs sad to go but unless we start again from the start, we have no way of moving forward.

Sorry for the moan but really, extorting ISK out of players is really a step too far.

Kind regards
Finn McCoul

Hello Mr McCoul,

Since quite a lot of posters here seem to come late to the party and rage about your OP without having read the entire thread, I would strongly suggest to edit your OP (maybe replace it with a picture of a cute baby sloth or something like that), to keep the ADD masses who only read your original post from flaming or declaring war on you.

/me turns around, pressing her backside against ya.

Well let's get to work, my little slave.

suicide wanking.