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Ginger Magician Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:23:00 - [1] Edited by: Ginger Magician on 25/11/2006 17:29:46 Edited by: Ginger Magician on 25/11/2006 17:29:17 Edited by: Ginger Magician on 25/11/2006 17:25:52 If u have a carrier try engaging a target on a gate.Let the target jump out and watch as the fighters continue to try to follow that target into the next system and if your act is criminal watch and enjoy as all your fighters go pop and wont follow u no matter how many times u tell them to return to drone bay or return and orbit or even warp out the carrier. Thx to ccp I have personally lost 250mill to this bug and they wont give me anything back And another good way if u dont have sentry help is to keep the guy who was aggroed in the next system bring your friends in and just kill all the fighter drones one by one.They will not aggro u in any way and unless the carrier actually is there and can lock u there is no risk. Great isnt it So all those who are aggroed by fighter just insta or run for the gate then come back in and enjoy the show One can only imagine the fun with bugs revelations will bring too given that this bug has existed since carriers were introduced and so far CCP havent even realised the problem.
Montero Black Omega Security	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:26:00 - [2] IBTL, noob. --------- Scrapheap Challenge
Blind Man Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:28:00 - [3] nobody cares ginger. Sig removed.\o/ It's great flying Amarr, ain't it?
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:31:00 - [4] Waaaaaaaa === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
Lucian Corvinus Gallente Expert Systems	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:32:00 - [5] The flames are strong everytime ginger posts Anyways, if I understand it right it sounds like a bug to me though
Tiuwaz Minmatar Omacron Militia	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:34:00 - [6] hi ginger still selling tractor beam bpos? Quote: Banane
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Tiuwaz hi ginger still selling tractor beam bpos? === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:36:00 - [8] BR it or don't complain. Considering CCP has explicitly said fighters won't jump to other systems, it sounds like something's off in this story. And IBTL, because this is going to turn firey fast. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:39:00 - [9] Couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:42:00 - [10] Originally by: Blind Man nobody cares ginger. I care, sounds like a bug to me and as such needs to be fixed. The fact that someone who slaughters bears is posting the bug obviously will upset said bears, and force them to retaliate the only way they know how... FORUM SMACK I think a dev should test this to see if it is the case then raise as a bug if need be for fixing (especially as fighters are so expensive) Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Montero Black Omega Security	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:47:00 - [11] Originally by: tiller slaughters bears By this you mean dies to noobs then whines about it, yes? --------- Scrapheap Challenge
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:49:00 - [12] Well ginger is nobody special, but a bug is a bug no matter what you think of the person posting about it. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." Corp/Alliance Services
Torment Caldari Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:51:00 - [13] Bah give the guy a break
Montero Black Omega Security	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:56:00 - [14] Originally by: Ginger Magician Originally by: Montero Originally by: tiller slaughters bears By this you mean dies to noobs then whines about it, yes? Shall I post the termination notice I received for your corpse Montero. Was a nice 5mill at the time as I remember. Must be embarassing to have lost both geddon and pod to a noob like me eh? hahaha I've never had a bounty and my char has 0 amarr skills. Must suck being you. --------- Scrapheap Challenge
Ginger Magician Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Montero Originally by: tiller slaughters bears By this you mean dies to noobs then whines about it, yes? Shall I post the termination notice I received for your corpse Montero. Was a nice 5mill at the time as I remember. Must be embarassing to have lost both geddon and pod to a noob like me eh?
Shaemell Buttleson Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:04:00 - [16] Originally by: Montero Originally by: Ginger Magician Originally by: Montero Originally by: tiller slaughters bears By this you mean dies to noobs then whines about it, yes? Shall I post the termination notice I received for your corpse Montero. Was a nice 5mill at the time as I remember. Must be embarassing to have lost both geddon and pod to a noob like me eh? hahaha I've never had a bounty and my char has 0 amarr skills. Must suck being you. PWND!
Deathhawk Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:04:00 - [17] why come into a post and whine about something youve never encountered... the only reason people like you do whine in threads like this is because youve been killed by someone better than you... just accept it. if it is a bug as hes sayong then it should be sorted and soon because there are alot of these ships in the game now and the 'bug' thats happening could be ruining gameplay for the people that like this style of play.. end of fire mission... I ROCK - DH
Ginger Magician Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:04:00 - [18] You may be right I think it was a guy called monterollo or something.Thats the thing with being GM .No doubt u can count the number of bounties u collected on the fingers of one hand. In my case it is rather more complicated
Carnye Dubro Caldari Shock and Awe	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Ginger Magician You may be right I think it was a guy called monterollo or something.Thats the thing with being GM .No doubt u can count the number of bounties u collected on the fingers of one hand. In my case it is rather more complicated Well folks... there you have it... Ginger just admitted... he can't count past five...
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:30:00 - [20] Originally by: Carnye Dubro Originally by: Ginger Magician You may be right I think it was a guy called monterollo or something.Thats the thing with being GM .No doubt u can count the number of bounties u collected on the fingers of one hand. In my case it is rather more complicated Well folks... there you have it... Ginger just admitted... he can't count past five... This forum is so funny _________________________________________________
Beringe Caldari Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:35:00 - [21] Originally by: Ginger Magician In my case it is rather more complicated Let me guess...only four fingers on each hand? I bet you have an excess of chromosomes, though. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Adrian Kerensky Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:52:00 - [22] Is there really a need for all this smack? Sounds like a bug, needs to be fixed if it is. Latest Vid: Curses to all
Takaharu Tsuyoshi	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:58:00 - [23] What a n00b
Arcterran Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:59:00 - [24] Those webbing/knock-you-out-of-warp torps killing your fighters now?
Frools The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:18:00 - [25] aggro'd fighters is invincible :(((((
Jap theBlind	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:26:00 - [26] For anybody else, we'd probably point you at the bug report form, but hey, being who you are, we just can't stop laughing
Ginger Magician Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:28:00 - [27] Edited by: Ginger Magician on 25/11/2006 19:28:46 Actually all the smack is good it keeps my posts to the forefront and anyone who is anyone in EVE online reads them including devs. Almost without exception I think everything that I have reported as a bug or overpowerment has resulted in a fix or a nerf. Its nice to have some ingame clout and that is something these lame smacktalkers could only ever dream about acheiving.
Majin82 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:33:00 - [28] I just hope it was one of my Corpmates who cost you this loss. ------------------------------------- Proud member of G Guild!
Lady Ghoulia	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:44:00 - [29] Originally by: jamesw I don't think fighters are particularly cost effective Of course not, fighters are for ****s
jamesw Omniscient Order The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:44:00 - [30] I don't think fighters are particularly cost effective -- Latest Vid: Domination!
Carnye Dubro Caldari Shock and Awe	Posted - 2006.11.25 21:10:00 - [31] Originally by: Ginger Magician Edited by: Ginger Magician on 25/11/2006 19:28:46 Actually all the smack is good it keeps my posts to the forefront and anyone who is anyone in EVE online reads them including devs. Almost without exception I think everything that I have reported as a bug or overpowerment has resulted in a fix or a nerf. Its nice to have some ingame clout and that is something these lame smacktalkers could only ever dream about acheiving. It was Ginger that got Stabs nerfed! Who would have thought it was true?
Tovarishch Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.25 21:18:00 - [32] You know Ginger... they need to add a decoration for all character portraits that would allow an option to have a laser target reticle painted on your forehead. That would be perfect for you. All life is sacred... until the client says otherwise.
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.11.25 21:24:00 - [33] Originally by: Tovarishch You know Ginger... they need to add a decoration for all character portraits that would allow an option to have a laser target reticle painted on your forehead. That would be perfect for you. in Ginger's case more like a paper bag Originally by: Khavi Vetali Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.
Captain Raynor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.25 21:29:00 - [34] SCREENSHOTS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN. Quote: Daniel Jackson > a harbinger cant be a raven cause its not caldari Daniel Jackson > and its not a missle ship Jim Raynor > thank you for that expert analysis DJ
Father Weebles Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated	Posted - 2006.11.25 21:33:00 - [35] You have to ask yourself, was an ibis worth it? "Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
Herculite Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.25 21:39:00 - [36] Just think of the whine thread when Ginger's carrier goes pop. Oh thats going to be a long one.
Saladin Minmatar V I R I I Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.11.25 22:30:00 - [37] If I understood it correctly, the fighters should return when recalled. In this case they did not return and stayed at the gate to get shot by sentry guns. This bug does happen from time to time (fighters not returning when ordered) and you end up having to re-assign them to someone else out of the grid and then recalling them. Despite my delight that this bug cost Ginger several fighters, it has to be acknowledged as a bug and fixed. ----
NebulousBlur Minmatar Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.25 22:50:00 - [38] I have heard of this happening before. In our case, the fighters chased a target that jumped out. They continued to MWD in the direction of the star system the target had entered and would not respond to commands to return (I think that fighters only listen to commands when they are not in warp). In our case, the fighters weren't destroyed. I don't recall what the solution was. A bug is a bug. You can chuckle at it happening to someone you don't care for, but you shouldn't dismiss a bug because of it. Some day it will affect you or someone you know.
Jang Ezhdeha	Posted - 2006.11.25 23:01:00 - [39] But this is Ginger and no one cares about his loss. Whats sad is he is using a Carrier now to try and kill frigs and haulers.
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.25 23:03:00 - [40] Edited by: tiller on 25/11/2006 23:03:21 Originally by: Ginger Magician Edited by: Ginger Magician on 25/11/2006 19:28:46 Actually all the smack is good it keeps my posts to the forefront and anyone who is anyone in EVE online reads them including devs. Almost without exception I think everything that I have reported as a bug or overpowerment has resulted in a fix or a nerf. Its nice to have some ingame clout and that is something these lame smacktalkers could only ever dream about acheiving. Agreed, many just post as they are jealous of your fame within eve. Being well known in eve is half way to winning the game (oh and btw, I won it about 1 yr back so you can only hope for 2nd place ) Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.25 23:07:00 - [41] Originally by: Jang Ezhdeha But this is Ginger and no one cares about his loss. Whats sad is he is using a Carrier now to try and kill frigs and haulers. I care and killing haulers with a carrier is cool. Hell, you don't even have a picture for your avatar, that makes what you post unimportant Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.11.26 01:15:00 - [42] Originally by: Herculite Just think of the whine thread when Ginger's carrier goes pop. Oh thats going to be a long one. Actually he already lost at least one. Some Empire indy corp baited him outside a station. Originally by: Khavi Vetali Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.
Ereinion Erinsal	Posted - 2006.11.26 02:04:00 - [43] So, why does everybody hate ginger? What did he do wrong?
Loud Speaker	Posted - 2006.11.26 02:29:00 - [44] Originally by: Ereinion Erinsal So, why does everybody hate ginger? What did he do wrong? Ginger exposed the Caldari secret warp disruption torpedo, which is why javelin torps were nerfed in Kali/Revelations, so now they all hate him for it
Ereinion Erinsal	Posted - 2006.11.26 03:10:00 - [45] Well, unless he is the reason ECM's are getting nerfed, I don;t see anything wrong =P
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.11.26 03:21:00 - [46] WTF is everybody jumping down ginger's throat? If the fighters stop responding and won't return that sounds like a legit bug to me. Sniggwaffe is recruiting
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.26 03:42:00 - [47] Originally by: Phelan Lore WTF is everybody jumping down ginger's throat? He keeps opening his mouth. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." Corp/Alliance Services
Montero Black Omega Security	Posted - 2006.11.26 03:42:00 - [48] Originally by: Phelan Lore WTF is everybody jumping down ginger's throat? If the fighters stop responding and won't return that sounds like a legit bug to me. Ever read a story called 'The Boy who shouted Wolf' ? --------- Scrapheap Challenge
Loud Speaker	Posted - 2006.11.26 04:18:00 - [49] I just tested this on SiSi and my fighters disengaged as soon as the target jumped, and responded immedately when I recalled them. I suspect GM has discovered another diabolical undocumented item in eve. Perhaps some sort of jerky that one carries in their cargohold so that the fighters keep pursuing?
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.26 04:58:00 - [50] Edited by: Krulla on 26/11/2006 04:58:26 I find it kind of funny that no matter what Ginger posts, he gets flamed. I guess he's doing something right then. Tbh, this is a bug. Like or dislike Ginger, this is clearly a bug. EDIT: He isn't saying the fighters jumped, he's saying they followed the target to a gate, no matter what he ordered them, and promptly got pwned by sentries.
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.11.26 05:00:00 - [51] Originally by: Montero Originally by: Phelan Lore WTF is everybody jumping down ginger's throat? If the fighters stop responding and won't return that sounds like a legit bug to me. Ever read a story called 'The Boy who shouted Wolf' ? /signed never a bad time to flame ginger. And if its a real bug then it will be fixed now. --- "Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
Hanns Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.26 05:10:00 - [52] wow so many alts and so little time. a bug is a bug at the end of the day, regardless how many forum trolling alts you have. Originally by: Tuxford a new retribution bonus. +1 med slot per level
Loud Speaker	Posted - 2006.11.26 05:15:00 - [53] Edited by: Loud Speaker on 26/11/2006 05:15:59 Originally by: Krulla Tbh, this is a bug. Like or dislike Ginger, this is clearly a bug. EDIT: He isn't saying the fighters jumped, he's saying they followed the target to a gate, no matter what he ordered them, and promptly got pwned by sentries. Originally by: Ginger Magician If u have a carrier try engaging a target on a gate.Let the target jump out and watch as the fighters continue to try to follow that target into the next system and if your act is criminal watch and enjoy as all your fighters go pop and wont follow u no matter how many times u tell them to return to drone bay or return and orbit or even warp out the carrier.So all those who are aggroed by fighter just insta or run for the gate then come back in and enjoy the show I tested ginger's exact scenario. I sicked some firblogs onto an enyo and after a little bit of time watching them attempt to hit it I jumped through. The fighters then disengaged and I was able to recall them to my carrier and return them to my drone bay. The fighters did not get stuck following, they responded as soon as I issued my command. BTW: Ginger gets flamed for being an idiot (my motives at least, re: warp scrambling torps), not because he is doing anything right.
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.26 05:57:00 - [54] Originally by: Loud Speaker I tested ginger's exact scenario. I sicked some firblogs onto an enyo and after a little bit of time watching them attempt to hit it I jumped through. The fighters then disengaged and I was able to recall them to my carrier and return them to my drone bay. The fighters did not get stuck following, they responded as soon as I issued my command. You missed the point. He isn't jumping, and the target isn't jumping. It goes like this; GM attacks Joe with fighters. Joe warps to a gate. Because the fighters are mid warp, GM cannot recall them, and thus the fighters are doomed. After arriving at the gate, GM's fighters get promptly pwned by gate sentries, because GM is criminally flagged. The problem here is, there is absolutely nothing that GM can do to avoid this. This is obviously broken. Originally by: Loud Speaker BTW: Ginger gets flamed for being an idiot (my motives at least, re: warp scrambling torps), not because he is doing anything right. Ginger is a omega-class attention *****, and he gets his attention. He is clearly doing something right.
Loud Speaker	Posted - 2006.11.26 06:11:00 - [55] Originally by: Krulla You missed the point. He isn't jumping, and the target isn't jumping. Originally by: Ginger Magician Let the target jump out and watch as the fighters continue to try to follow that target into the next system I think you're the one missing the point Originally by: Krulla It goes like this; GM attacks Joe with fighters. Joe warps to a gate. Because the fighters are mid warp, GM cannot recall them, and thus the fighters are doomed. After arriving at the gate, GM's fighters get promptly pwned by gate sentries, because GM is criminally flagged. This isn't a bug it's how fighters work genius. Fighters follow targets in warp and just like your own ship can't stop mid-warp> You have to finish warping to your destination and then warp out. Fighters are exactly the same. As soon as you see your fighters stop following and begin to attack you hit recall and presto they return.
Ginger Magician Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2006.11.26 13:26:00 - [56] Edited by: Ginger Magician on 26/11/2006 13:29:59 What happens is that the fighters do not return they keep saying following once the target has jumped out. Whilst they are in follow mode they will not return to drone bay return to orbit or even follow u when u warp the carrier. In this case I was right on the gate with my carrier and the target bs was sitting in jump range of the gate.I locked the bs launched fighters and engaged target.Shortly after receiving some fighter lovin he jumped out whereupon I ofc recalled the fighters. Out of 9 active fighters only 4 returned and the rest were stuck in follow mode and refused to obey any commands. It could be something to do with sentry fire as well perhaps but as I was criminally flagged and I was taking sentry fire on the carrier as well the amount of damage received by the fighters was relatively low in most cases only shield damage. The first time this happened to me also involved a bs who jumped out.The fighters became stuck in follow mode and showed as being at full health for some 10 mins.Unfortunately after that 10 mins they suddenly disappeared 1 by 1 from my drone list and I subsequently found out that the targets friends had popped all the fighters some mintues before without them ever showing taking damage or responding to the aggro. Apparently they were also fired on by sentry guns despite the fact that I was not criminally flagged and I only ordered them to engage a target who had aggroed me and was a red flasher. In general these bugs are a nasty mess and given the ridiculously high cost of fighter drones it is a costly business when things go wrong with them.
Loud Speaker	Posted - 2006.11.26 17:23:00 - [57] Originally by: Ginger Magician What happens is that the fighters do not return they keep saying following once the target has jumped out. Whilst they are in follow mode they will not return to drone bay return to orbit or even follow u when u warp the carrier. In this case I was right on the gate with my carrier and the target bs was sitting in jump range of the gate.I locked the bs launched fighters and engaged target.Shortly after receiving some fighter lovin he jumped out whereupon I ofc recalled the fighters. Out of 9 active fighters only 4 returned and the rest were stuck in follow mode and refused to obey any commands. It could be something to do with sentry fire as well perhaps but as I was criminally flagged and I was taking sentry fire on the carrier as well the amount of damage received by the fighters was relatively low in most cases only shield damage. This is the exact scenario I tested. My carrier locked the enyo and sent fighters onto it. After shooting a fighter a couple times and waiting for my agression timer I jumped through and all the fighters ceased following and were recalled. I just tried it again with 12 fighters this time. The fighters all went idle as soon as the target jumped into the next system. I was then able to recall them to my dronebay and they all responded, although it wasn't all at once. Took roughtly 10 seconds for them all to switch from idle to follow (follow me). I also tested sending fighters onto a target which warps away and then jumps through a gate. The fighters were technically following when the target jumped, but that was because they were back to following (returning) to me automatically when the target was gone. Originally by: Ginger Magician The first time this happened to me also involved a bs who jumped out.The fighters became stuck in follow mode and showed as being at full health for some 10 mins.Unfortunately after that 10 mins they suddenly disappeared 1 by 1 from my drone list and I subsequently found out that the targets friends had popped all the fighters some mintues before without them ever showing taking damage or responding to the aggro. Apparently they were also fired on by sentry guns despite the fact that I was not criminally flagged and I only ordered them to engage a target who had aggroed me and was a red flasher. In general these bugs are a nasty mess and given the ridiculously high cost of fighter drones it is a costly business when things go wrong with them. As for your second point about fighters following the BS. You do know that you can't see the fighter HP when they are following someone that you aren't on the same grid with, or when you assign your fighters to someone off grid. That is the risk you take by sending fighters to follow a target. I agree fighters have some issues still though, and it would be nice to get some hp update remotely.
DefJam101 Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.26 17:35:00 - [58] Originally by: Ginger Magician Edited by: Ginger Magician on 25/11/2006 17:29:46 Edited by: Ginger Magician on 25/11/2006 17:29:17 Edited by: Ginger Magician on 25/11/2006 17:25:52 If u have a carrier try engaging a target on a gate.Let the target jump out and watch as the fighters continue to try to follow that target into the next system and if your act is criminal watch and enjoy as all your fighters go pop and wont follow u no matter how many times u tell them to return to drone bay or return and orbit or even warp out the carrier. Thx to ccp I have personally lost 250mill to this bug and they wont give me anything back And another good way if u dont have sentry help is to keep the guy who was aggroed in the next system bring your friends in and just kill all the fighter drones one by one.They will not aggro u in any way and unless the carrier actually is there and can lock u there is no risk. Great isnt it So all those who are aggroed by fighter just insta or run for the gate then come back in and enjoy the show One can only imagine the fun with bugs revelations will bring too given that this bug has existed since carriers were introduced and so far CCP havent even realised the problem. Solution: Stop trying to kill Frigates with Carriers. Take it to 0.0 you idiot. Noob no one really cares what you say :P ***
Efour Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.11.26 18:49:00 - [59] nice!
Khadur Minmatar Spontaneous Defenestration	Posted - 2006.11.26 19:07:00 - [60] ccp should fix it imo
Loud Speaker	Posted - 2006.11.26 19:21:00 - [61] Originally by: Khadur ccp should fix it imo Fix what? I've tested identical scenarios to GM and have had no problems. CCP should work on actual problems instead of holding the hands of some of the playerbase with more... vivid imaginations
Angus McLean Gallente Divinity Trials	Posted - 2006.11.26 19:35:00 - [62] LOL at this thread. So you guys, most of you without a forum pic anyways, are angry at Ginger for nerfing the Warp Scram torpedo? Retards... Wheres the justice on these forums... Most people dont even want to use them because of stuff like this, cant write anything without some 12 year old kid flaming you. yes this is an issue, yes it needs to be fixed, yes im sure all you people have tried this exact same thing and nothing happened, yes im sure some of you hate ginger for nerfing a *** bug, and yes you all need to stop flaming this post and go study for your Algebra 1/2 test.
Peen Long Caldari Crotch Sniffers	Posted - 2006.11.26 20:00:00 - [63] Originally by: Angus McLean LOL at this thread. So you guys, most of you without a forum pic anyways, are angry at Ginger for nerfing the Warp Scram torpedo? Retards... Wheres the justice on these forums... Most people dont even want to use them because of stuff like this, cant write anything without some 12 year old kid flaming you. yes this is an issue, yes it needs to be fixed, yes im sure all you people have tried this exact same thing and nothing happened, yes im sure some of you hate ginger for nerfing a *** bug, and yes you all need to stop flaming this post and go study for your Algebra 1/2 test. Nah, there's plenty that don't like him purely due to his arrogance. :p
Loud Speaker	Posted - 2006.11.26 20:09:00 - [64] Edited by: Loud Speaker on 26/11/2006 20:13:37 Originally by: Angus McLean LOL at this thread. So you guys, most of you without a forum pic anyways, are angry at Ginger for nerfing the Warp Scram torpedo? Retards... Wheres the justice on these forums... Most people dont even want to use them because of stuff like this, cant write anything without some 12 year old kid flaming you. yes this is an issue, yes it needs to be fixed, yes im sure all you people have tried this exact same thing and nothing happened, yes im sure some of you hate ginger for nerfing a *** bug, and yes you all need to stop flaming this post and go study for your Algebra 1/2 test. Yes I am oh so mad at ginger for getting a non-existant item nerfed (it's called sarcasm btw). I've tried everything ginger claimed and none of it has caused a bug. Maybe you should do some more studying before walking out in public wearing your clown suit with the retard sandwich board on top.
Squirl	Posted - 2006.11.26 20:53:00 - [65] Ginger for GM!!! btw, can i date your Top model gf, someday?? please??
gordon cain Minmatar Omega Enterprises	Posted - 2006.11.26 22:22:00 - [66] I dont care who looses the drones. The Fact is that fighters dont work atm. This needs to be fixed soon with the price of fighters.
Vincent Almasy Gallente The Underground	Posted - 2006.11.26 23:03:00 - [67] fighters work as good as drones do when you speak of listen to commands so when they fix drones, you see a fix to fighters, that simple.
Sev Renard Gallente Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.11.27 00:08:00 - [68] Originally by: Herculite Just think of the whine thread when Ginger's carrier goes pop. Oh thats going to be a long one. In completely unrelated news innocent whistle 2006.11.17 00:25 Victim: XXXXXXX Alliance: None Corp: XXXXXXX Destroyed: Thanatos System: Lasleinur Security: 0.2 Involved parties: Name: Innerflux Security: -2.2 Alliance: None Corp: Legio Immortalis Ship: Archon Weapon: Firbolg Name: WarHound Security: -2.5 Alliance: None Corp: Legio Immortalis Ship: Chimera Weapon: Dragonfly Name: GhostStarWolf Security: -2.8 Alliance: None Corp: SHADOW SUPREMACY Ship: Raven Weapon: Warrior I Name: jabsnook Security: 0.7 Alliance: None Corp: SHADES OF SOUL Ship: Raven Weapon: Praetor I Name: sherrod (laid the final blow) Security: -2.7 Alliance: None Corp: Ordered Kaos Ship: Scorpion Weapon: Valkyrie II Name: MISS NAUGHTY Security: -2.4 Alliance: Fimbulwinter Corp: Lasleinur Production Ship: Typhoon Weapon: Devastator Cruise Missile Name: Aserifin Matar Security: 3.9 Alliance: None Corp: Ordered Kaos Ship: Stabber Weapon: Stabber Name: Malcomtempt Security: -2.7 Alliance: None Corp: Legio Immortalis Ship: Jaguar Weapon: Jaguar Name: Ghost Hughdidit Security: 3.2 Alliance: Storm Armada Corp: Elite Storm Enterprises Ship: Raptor Weapon: Bloodclaw Light Missile Destroyed items: Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I Drone Control Unit I, Qty: 2 Domination Warp Disruptor ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor Explosive Hardener II Oxygen Isotopes, Qty: 9041 (Cargo) Hobgoblin I, Qty: 4 (Drone Bay) Hornet I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay) Hammerhead I, Qty: 29 (Drone Bay) Praetor I, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay) Infiltrator II (Drone Bay) Vespa II, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay) Warrior II, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay) Acolyte II, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay) Praetor II, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay) Wasp I, Qty: 233 (Drone Bay) Vespa I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay) Acolyte I, Qty: 67 (Drone Bay) Infiltrator TD-600, Qty: 60 (Drone Bay) Hammerhead SD-600, Qty: 62 (Drone Bay) Vespa EC-600, Qty: 58 (Drone Bay) Acolyte TD-300, Qty: 61 (Drone Bay) Hornet EC-300 (Drone Bay) Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay) Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I, Qty: 12 (Drone Bay) _________________________________________ I wonder which will come first, my portrait, or a sig hijack...

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