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Lord Goodberry
Gallente
Madhatters Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 03:44:00 -
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Excellent starting guide. Scanned about 10 random system's over past few days and didn't find much except abandoned ships. Then I found my first deadspace signature. Very exciting and rewarded the time investment.
I suggest everyone try experimenting and spend some time with it. Especially in system-map mode where it's easier to see your probe scan 'spehere' and planets' alignment
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Arain
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Posted - 2006.12.08 06:58:00 -
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Played with scan probes last night and after a couple hours managed to narrow down and locate a gate to a deadspace room. Unfortunately it had already been cleaned out by someone else. I would think they should program these in such a way that they would be generated for each gang or player that finds a dead space signature. Otherwise whats the point in spending a few millions on probes to locate a worthless piece of artwork.
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Dumus
Silver Service
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:29:00 -
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Thanks to this very good guide I have found in a 0.3 area my first "anomaly" it is full of Gneiss, and all three flavours \0/ I am guesstimating about 100 mill's worth.
Awesome content CCP have added but the time to "explore" is stupefyingly long and tedious! I have been scanning for over 8 hours now in several systems and this is the first thing I have found.
-Dumus-
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Shi'ra Kull
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:46:00 -
[214]
Can systems have more than one site ?
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Meridin Velasces
Sensus Numinis
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:08:00 -
[215]
A)Regarding the post from TomB in the Developmentforum. Yes it's possible.
B)I'm not certain on that one, but as the exploration side is allready there, it's very likely someone else can find it, too.
C)Sorry, no clue. The few that i have found where always in the near of a planet.
-Meridin
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Shi'ra Kull
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:17:00 -
[216]
Thanks for the link havnt read that one before! /me slaps head.
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tilt sedron
Caldari
M'8'S
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:46:00 -
[217]
 Originally by: Joerd Toastius
Originally by: tilt sedron
As I have tryed some exploration probing (for hidden sites,...), but have not found anything so far, I wonder if I am perhaps doing something wrong.
I have some questions and hope someone can help me.
1. Can those sites (complexes, gas clouds, ...) in general be found in normal 0.0 systems, or are there special areas, where it is more likely that you find something?
2. Is it possible / does it make sense to scan with several probes at the same time?
3. How many scans with the same probe do you need on average to find something (if it is there and it is in scan range)? So how big is the chance that your probe will / will not find an object, if it is there?
4. How big is the chance in an average 0.0 system that there is nothing at all? So how many systems do you have to scan in general until you find something?
Thx in advance for your help
1) Normal sites can I believe be found anywhere, gas clouds are only found in 0.0 COSMOS afaik
2) Yes and yes. Given that you can, there's no reason not to unless you're a masochist
3) With the sites I've been finding and given Hoshi's numbers, between 30 and 100 on average so far. Yes, it sucks. I'm still trying to work out if there's a pattern WRT probe types and sites
4) I thought it was 0, I could be wrong though. (As in, something in every system.)
Thx a lot for the info.
One more question:
How can I find 0.0 COSMOS areas? Where are they located? How can I see if the system I am in is a COSMOS system?
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Hoshi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:45:00 -
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New probe on Sisi.
Multispectral Frequency Probe
The Multispectral Frequency Probe scans the entire solar system for multispectral frequencies, and gives a readout on which types of frequencies exist.
Volume: 1.25 m3 (so only for Scan Probe Launcher)
Strength: 1,000,000 points to all types
Flight Time: 600.00 Sec
Range: 999 AU
Requires Astrometrics Level 1.
Not seeded so I can't test it yet.
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A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |
Sexorella hotz
Beasts of Burden
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.09 04:03:00 -
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Edited by: Sexorella hotz on 09/12/2006 04:03:00
Seems 21.7s is not the lowest possible scan time on the recon launcher, its around 25-26 with rigs. I'm guessing perhaps you counted survey as part of the time reduction? I've since tested that and survey has no affect. So 120*.5*.5*.85 is best reduction you can get, that's covops 5, signal aquisition 5, and the t2 rig for scan time.
A picky point but it annoyed me
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Shi'ra Kull
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Posted - 2006.12.09 11:12:00 -
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Had some success with exploration but need to know something.
Are most 0.0 systems empty? I`m not having ANY luck with 0.0 systems that have low populations, is this bad luck or are they generally empty of explorable content?
I hope not because surely this is where exploration should be taking place....
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Hoshi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.09 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sexorella hotz
Edited by: Sexorella hotz on 09/12/2006 04:03:00
Seems 21.7s is not the lowest possible scan time on the recon launcher, its around 25-26 with rigs. I'm guessing perhaps you counted survey as part of the time reduction? I've since tested that and survey has no affect. So 120*.5*.5*.85 is best reduction you can get, that's covops 5, signal aquisition 5, and the t2 rig for scan time.
A picky point but it annoyed me
I counted 2x t2 rigs. At the time I did the math they had yet to introduce calibration on sisi.
With 2x t1 (which should fit) it becomes 24.3 sec
There are lots of small things like that that needs updating but I'll wait until CCP is down with their changes and update it all at the same time.
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A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |
Shi'ra Kull
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Posted - 2006.12.09 18:34:00 -
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Anyone had an escalating exploration yet ?
I found a pirate base, that gave me the position for a pirate HQ, I went to the system and was presented with a bookmark. When I clicked on it it said ...
"So much time has passed since this lead was given, that it is no longer accurate enough to be followed. You should delete it."
It expired in under an HOUR! Is this normal? RL intervened and I missed it , Im pretty damn annoyed!
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Amira Silvermist
Yazata Spenta
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.12.09 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Shi'ra Kull
It expired in under an HOUR! Is this normal? RL intervened and I missed it , Im pretty damn annoyed!
Plus does this mean that the site is gone or can it still be probed out ?
Its probably gone for good...
Sorry 
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Kaiu
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2006.12.10 02:14:00 -
[224]
How do i scan out hidden belts now?
Since roids dont show on system scanner and i cant select them on scan probes :(
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MOGarmy
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Hoshi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.10 02:36:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Kaiu
How do i scan out hidden belts now?
Since roids dont show on system scanner and i cant select them on scan probes :(
There are 2 types of hidden belts, one is the new temporary type which is part of the exploration system and can be probed down by using that.
The other are bugged belts, belts that have spread out to cover more than the grid they are supposed to reside in. Those belts will be fixed so they are no longer spread out according to TomB (dev).
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A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |
Gentzen
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.10 03:09:00 -
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I think it is important to find a small system for exploration.
so I calculated a number of quest probes which I need to scan all planets in the system.
probes2.txt
exploration.txt
#quest probes are deployed on planets.
I dont know whether finding probabilities in smaller systems are less than those in bigger systems or not.
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Ficti0n
FireTech
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.10 08:26:00 -
[227]
Read patch notes OP.
Think the guide needs updated respectively
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Di Jiensai
Gallente
Myster0ns
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Posted - 2006.12.10 12:07:00 -
[228]
I am wondering about the diffrent exploration probes:
Is it possible that we dont have to use the longrange ones at all?
I have a theory, that signatures are spawned at the time you scan for them, so that would mean you could scan only using the 0.5au probes, and get better results, without missing something.
So, can you guys post the distance of the complex you have found, to the nearest Planet it belongs to?
If we should find that they are all closer than 0.5au, it would be possible to only use the short range, high sensor strength probes. and thus more efficiently scan.
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The Story of the Big-Bad-Nos-Domi and the Brutix
Selfproclaimed last instance on Rightousness Issues |
Shi'ra Kull
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Posted - 2006.12.10 12:32:00 -
[229]
Heres a bug that needs fixing.
If you crash then you lose contact with your probes, they are still there in space when you come back but you cant use them :(
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Hoshi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.10 14:07:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Ficti0n
Read patch notes OP.
Think the guide needs updated respectively
Not going to update it until I have tested what it means in practice. Patch notes are all well and good but we all know how often they differ from reality.
SiSi has been down more or less since the patch notes where posted so I have not been able to test it yet.
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A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |
Hoshi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:27:00 -
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They seems to have completely borked scanning on sisi.
Even with signal strengths up to 4-5 the targets still only show up once in every 20-30 scans. Doesn't matter if the target is in a deadspace area or not.
As it is now it would be faster to scan with the old probe system.
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A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |
Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.12.11 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gentzen
I think it is important to find a small system for exploration.
so I calculated a number of quest probes which I need to scan all planets in the system.
probes2.txt
exploration.txt
#quest probes are deployed on planets.
I dont know whether finding probabilities in smaller systems are less than those in bigger systems or not.
Thanks for the data :D Will probably include this in the next rev of the exploration guide, once I get round to it...
Originally by: Di Jiensai
I am wondering about the diffrent exploration probes:
Is it possible that we dont have to use the longrange ones at all?
I have a theory, that signatures are spawned at the time you scan for them, so that would mean you could scan only using the 0.5au probes, and get better results, without missing something.
So, can you guys post the distance of the complex you have found, to the nearest Planet it belongs to?
If we should find that they are all closer than 0.5au, it would be possible to only use the short range, high sensor strength probes. and thus more efficiently scan.
All my initial finds have been between 1.5 and 3 AU from the nearest planet, so far...
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Gatehopper
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Posted - 2006.12.11 03:47:00 -
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Do you have to use a covert ops to use sift probes?
I tried to use the sift probe in a non-time bonus ship and I had a 10 min scan time which went past the 7 min life of the probe.
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Horb
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.12.11 03:47:00 -
[234]
I'm scanned down three systems and have not found anything of yet. For those with success what was the most amount of failed scans before you finally found some results? I'm trying to decide when I can safely say nothing is here and move onto the next system.
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Xaj Terag
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Posted - 2006.12.11 05:20:00 -
[235]
Just as a note, the skill requirements to use the Exploration Probes has been decreased to Astrometrics III. I believe this was an undocumented change in the last patch.
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Scaramaus
Southern Cross Incorporated
Pure.
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Posted - 2006.12.11 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gentzen
I think it is important to find a small system for exploration.
so I calculated a number of quest probes which I need to scan all planets in the system.
probes2.txt
exploration.txt
#quest probes are deployed on planets.
I dont know whether finding probabilities in smaller systems are less than those in bigger systems or not.
Excuse me for bein a bit off-topic. But Gentzen, how did you find out all this data? Especially the sec-ratings of the new systems? Was it in the data-dump perhaps?
Thanks for the data btw!
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Gcidious Con
Scandinavian Council
The Scandinavian Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.11 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Xaj Terag
Just as a note, the skill requirements to use the Exploration Probes has been decreased to Astrometrics III. I believe this was an undocumented change in the last patch.
That's true, they just slipped that in!
Here's the requirements of the 4 types of probes:
Quest Probe - Astrometrics I
Pursuit Probe - Astrometrics II
Comb Probe - Astrometrics III
Sift Probe - Astrometrics IV
Guess I should stop training astrometrics V now 
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Phyrr
Minmatar
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2006.12.11 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: Phyrr on 11/12/2006 11:41:33
Edited by: Phyrr on 11/12/2006 11:40:46
Originally by: Gatehopper
Do you have to use a covert ops to use sift probes?
I tried to use the sift probe in a non-time bonus ship and I had a 10 min scan time which went past the 7 min life of the probe.
There are frigates that have astrometrics bonuses. I personally use a Probe (Minmatar Frigate) gets 5% bonus to modules requiring astrometrics per lvl.I fit a cloak to it for low sec scans. Also there are 3 astrometric support skills that will help even more: Astrometric Pinpointing, Astrometric Triangulation and Signal Aquisition.
Enjoy:)
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cphuhu
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Posted - 2006.12.11 12:51:00 -
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Everyone is talking about placing probes around planets, but has anyone trying to place them at safespots? Or to word it differently: Are there exploration sites in between the planets or only within 4au of a planet? How about gates?
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Gatehopper
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Posted - 2006.12.11 17:39:00 -
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I think there should be an addition to the guide about the use of sift probes. You need signal acquisition to lvl 4 or a ship with scanning bonus to use them.
Also, has there been any info on the risk of chasing mission runners in deadspace? I spent two hours in a system, found one signal only to have it disappear the next scan. Then another appeared at separate planet two scans later.
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