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Mazzarins Demise	Posted - 2006.11.26 10:08:00 - [1] No offense to the Caldari and Minmatar, I have not yet trained the skills to fly your proudly owned ships just yet. This here is a bout between the Amarr and the Gallente. I have been Amarr since the start of this particular character and have always flown Amarr ships nor have I had a thought about flying any of the other races ships until now. I'd just like another taste of the fruit, to see if it can add a little something new to the mix as opposed to flying the same type of ship all of the time. Right now I recently purchased a Prophecy but I wonder if I shouldn't have made a decision so quickly, thankfully mistakes like this can be remedied so I come to the forums for help. I come to you, the knowledgeable forum goers for advice. Please if you can, list any advantages or disadvantages to each ship if you can. Any information provided would be very appreciated and helpful so I can figure out what will be my next ship or replacement. Battlecruisers - Gallente: The Brutix vs. Amarr: The Prophecy Battleships - Gallente: The Dominix and Megathron vs. Amarr: The Apocalypse and Armageddon I am also not aware of the newer ships being added with the newest expansion. So please if you think they will prove to be a worthwhile replacement as well, don't hesitate to include it if you can. Once again I thank you in advance and wish you safe travels, happy pirating (yarring) and fun hunting to all!
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.11.26 10:12:00 - [2] Pros of both: Gallente: Huge close range DPS, nosfer-drone boats of win. Amarr: Shiny golden ships, highest long range DPS. Gallente all the way IMO. Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Mihae Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.26 10:28:00 - [3] Gallente are better tbh. It's a Kitty ffs!
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.11.26 10:34:00 - [4] Gallente. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.26 11:03:00 - [5] Gallente, unless you plan to use them only for ratting sansha/bloods.
Kharakan Amarr New World Disorders	Posted - 2006.11.26 11:34:00 - [6] Swap 'prophecy' for 'harbinger' and we might be getting somewhere. Originally by: Joshua Foiritain (to Dark Shikari) HAHAHA I KNOW YOUR ACCOUUNT NAME TIME TO DIE this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
Rafein Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.26 11:34:00 - [7] gallente. At least they have a bit of variety, can do a few different things. All Amarr ships are pretty much exactly the same.
Exogene	Posted - 2006.11.26 11:41:00 - [8] Gallente indeedy
Valerius The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.11.26 11:51:00 - [9] Gallente have the advantage of MWDing in close and spamming with drones/blasters... Domi is a drone boat, and as such it is supreme in a 1on1 (never try and outfight a domi unless you know what you are doing). Fitted with NOS Heavy Tank and drones Galore this baby just flies.... but, its main fault is actually its asset... take away its drones and its dead as a doornail Megathron... blasterthron, need i say more? You dont get more firepower into any BS then the mega, it can rip apart all other BSs in no time (tried doing it with a geddon with 3 plates... 10s later i redocked cuz i had 50% armor, i had a ****ty tank and got surprised).. but blasters use up a LOT of cap so you better be packing a cargo full of 800s or youll run dry faster then a dual boosting raven Brutix, dont really now much about this one except its said to be one hell of a blaster boat... Apoc, pretty standard as most amarr ships are, heavy armor with lots of turrets, its got a great cap due to its bonus but even that wont last long when using tachyones. With that said its a supreme sniper... as said earlier amarr have the highest DPS over range, but the alphas of them are weak as hell so i wouldnt use a fleet of apocs against a fleet of tempests Geddon, hmm, the gankageddon still lives, its far from as powerfull as it used to but it still lives, pack this baby up with 7 dual heavy pulses and it just wrecks the enemy... unless there are a lot of them in which case your cap is gone too fast to matter Best advise i can give ya... sell the proph, they are utter rubish... they have the DPS of a small cruiser and the agility of a large BS... its esentially a brick fielding beebee guns. You can tank it quite nicely but if you arent able to do damage it really doesnt matter ___________________________ Bringing Lag to a place near you since 2004
Reatu Krentor Minmatar Void Spiders Fate Weavers	Posted - 2006.11.26 11:55:00 - [10] Fly what you like to fly, not what is deemed "the best" and is flavour of the month imo. Crystal-Slave, that way? Potential solution to the current Recon cloak and cyno bug

Diehard Si	Posted - 2006.11.26 12:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Reatu Krentor Fly what you like to fly, not what is deemed "the best" and is flavour of the month imo. indeed, play Eve how you want to play Eve. -------------------------------------- Lets face it, people that use the word 'noob' are blatantly either 12 or with more friends on the internet than in real life!
Sir Bart Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:00:00 - [12] Depends on what you're doing, in gangs it's not a coincidence that geddon's end up on top of most kill mails. They do very good damage and combine that with the fact that they have a great optimal and can start zaping as soon as the FC gives a name (where a bthron often has to MWD up to the target). Apoc's cap bonus allows for it to be a pretty good tank but I prefere a gank geddon to a tank 9 times outta 10. Megathron is a great solo BS and small gang bs (less than 5 ppl). -Bart
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Reatu Krentor Fly what you like to fly, not what is deemed "the best" and is flavour of the month imo. People die a lot doing that.... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Reatu Krentor Fly what you like to fly, not what is deemed "the best" and is flavour of the month imo. People die a lot doing that.... Your point? Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Soros 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:44:00 - [15] Prophecy can quite easy beat a brutix in a standard engagement scenario.
Soros 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:47:00 - [16] Prophecy can also hit to a greater range .. so for all round pvp and 1vs1 id say prophecy all though brutix is alot more fun with good old blasters which is my prefered weapon
Luxor Danith	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:48:00 - [17] The Real Question: Better AT WHAT? When you ask which ship is better than what on forums you usually get a what can kill what in solo pvp analysis, and little else. What do you want to do in them? Solo PvP small gang pvp?Fleet Battle? Gate Sniper? Run Missions? Mine? Whats you play style? Do you want to fight from close up or from a distance? etc. There is no best, only whats best for a given situation.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:57:00 - [18] Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Reatu Krentor Fly what you like to fly, not what is deemed "the best" and is flavour of the month imo. People die a lot doing that.... Your point? My point is that its no use sticking to what doesnt work. Switch to the best races as early as you can, because there is nothing more dangerous than sticking to your race for years, hoping they will "fix" the problems it has, while other people are having fun and you're not. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Reatu Krentor Minmatar Void Spiders Fate Weavers	Posted - 2006.11.26 15:29:00 - [19] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Reatu Krentor Fly what you like to fly, not what is deemed "the best" and is flavour of the month imo. People die a lot doing that.... Your point? My point is that its no use sticking to what doesnt work. Switch to the best races as early as you can, because there is nothing more dangerous than sticking to your race for years, hoping they will "fix" the problems it has, while other people are having fun and you're not. I've been flying minmatar for my entire eve carreer. They have been throug ups and downs in the entire time, tracking formula changed, it took 6-12 months before artillery was brought back up to a balanced level, that didn't stop me from having fun with minmatar however. Of course if you measure fun by K/D ratio, yeah fly flavour of the month. But tbh that must be boring. Crystal-Slave, that way? Potential solution to the current Recon cloak and cyno bug
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.11.26 15:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Jim McGregor My point is that its no use sticking to what doesnt work. Switch to the best races as early as you can, because there is nothing more dangerous than sticking to your race for years, hoping they will "fix" the problems it has, while other people are having fun and you're not. I'd rather die having fun than win flying a Drake. Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy

Felix Dzerzhinsky	Posted - 2006.11.26 15:58:00 - [21] Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Jim McGregor My point is that its no use sticking to what doesnt work. Switch to the best races as early as you can, because there is nothing more dangerous than sticking to your race for years, hoping they will "fix" the problems it has, while other people are having fun and you're not. I'd rather die having fun than win flying a Drake. So it has nothing to do with fun, but with pride for you ya? You will not fly the Drake because it is not a fun ship, but rather because you feel that it is too 'easy' to win in it. Why not prove that you can win in the Drake rather then make a stupid statement. As for the Gallente/Amarr thing - train Gallente. 1) close range is more fun then long range -- mid range does not exist except in fleet. 2) you will be working on training Hybrids - working on your gunnery skills will make switching easy later if you chose that Amarr are better for you, then just switch. For now, Gallente are very nice.
Luric Vizjier The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:08:00 - [22] Amarr would be better if they actually armor tanked as well as they are supposed to. There is nothing wrong with their weapons as many would have you believe. Right now the best option is to Nano a Geddon and fit for fighting just outside of Nos range. -----------------------------------------------
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:19:00 - [23] Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Jim McGregor My point is that its no use sticking to what doesnt work. Switch to the best races as early as you can, because there is nothing more dangerous than sticking to your race for years, hoping they will "fix" the problems it has, while other people are having fun and you're not. I'd rather die having fun than win flying a Drake. So it has nothing to do with fun, but with pride for you ya? You will not fly the Drake because it is not a fun ship, but rather because you feel that it is too 'easy' to win in it. Why not prove that you can win in the Drake rather then make a stupid statement. No, it has everything to do with fun. I have a 30million SP Caldari specialised character, who (on SiSi, given the HAML spec V) was totally maxed out for the Drake (except Warhead Upgs V). I went to the crusier thing, found a hurricane and engaged. I then went AFK. I came back a short later to restart my guns. That is the sum total of player interaction required to fly a Drake. Once you are passive tanking, using weapons which don't matter with transversal or anything else, there is actually NOTHING to do when fighting. Drakes (and this is the one fact completely ignored in all the Drake threads) are absolutely no fun at all. Win button ships are not neccesarily no fun (Dominix for example), but the Drake counts pretty heavily as "No fun" in my book. Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Felix Dzerzhinsky	Posted - 2006.11.26 18:20:00 - [24] Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Jim McGregor My point is that its no use sticking to what doesnt work. Switch to the best races as early as you can, because there is nothing more dangerous than sticking to your race for years, hoping they will "fix" the problems it has, while other people are having fun and you're not. I'd rather die having fun than win flying a Drake. So it has nothing to do with fun, but with pride for you ya? You will not fly the Drake because it is not a fun ship, but rather because you feel that it is too 'easy' to win in it. Why not prove that you can win in the Drake rather then make a stupid statement. No, it has everything to do with fun. I have a 30million SP Caldari specialised character, who (on SiSi, given the HAML spec V) was totally maxed out for the Drake (except Warhead Upgs V). I went to the crusier thing, found a hurricane and engaged. I then went AFK. I came back a short later to restart my guns. That is the sum total of player interaction required to fly a Drake. Once you are passive tanking, using weapons which don't matter with transversal or anything else, there is actually NOTHING to do when fighting. Drakes (and this is the one fact completely ignored in all the Drake threads) are absolutely no fun at all. Win button ships are not neccesarily no fun (Dominix for example), but the Drake counts pretty heavily as "No fun" in my book. I have to say I agree - but there is another side of me that enjoys being able to kill people so easily!!
Megadon Caldari Deathshead Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.26 18:30:00 - [25] Gallente
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance	Posted - 2006.11.26 19:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Reatu Krentor Fly what you like to fly, not what is deemed "the best" and is flavour of the month imo. People die a lot doing that.... Your point? My point is that its no use sticking to what doesnt work. Switch to the best races as early as you can, because there is nothing more dangerous than sticking to your race for years, hoping they will "fix" the problems it has, while other people are having fun and you're not. I chose gallente when they sucked, now we own. Im happy _________________________________________________
Aeaus Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.26 20:00:00 - [27] I fly Gallente, Minmatar, Amarr, and have an alt that flys Caldari. Hands down Gallente are the best of your two choices =) Of course let's look at this logically. Brutix is one of the best BCs in the game, come Kali it'll be joined by the Myr which is also quite incredible. The prophecy is very lackluster, it tanks like crap, it damages like crap. The harbinger is a completely different story, this ship should be able to challange a brutix pilot, keep your range and you will beat a brutix. The Dominix is pretty much the best 1vs1 BS and will continue to be in Kali. The Megathron is a very good sniper that outdoes the Apocalypse, Armageddon, and the Abaddon against your standard omni tank. The Hyperion will be a very nice ship to pilots with a clue, and so will the Abaddon, but I'm keeping my ideas quiet Last Weeks Signature
Nir Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.11.26 20:24:00 - [28] I'll just echo what others have said; Amarr for the lose, go with Gallente.
Mazzarins Demise	Posted - 2006.11.27 02:32:00 - [29] I'd just like to say thank you to everyone who replied to my topic. Your information will prove invaluable regarding my decision to switch to Gallente ships or stick to Amarr. To clarify, I was not looking for the best of the best kind of ship, I merely wanted to see the advantages and disadvantages each ship brought to the table in all situations. With that information I'll be able to see what ship will fit best with what I am trying to do or accomplish in the Eve universe. Happy travels .
Herculite Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.27 03:17:00 - [30] After Kali I'd say Caldari Gallente are now in the same nerf boat as Amarr.



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