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DrysonBennington
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.28 06:22:27 -
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I think that a Fast Response Frigate is necessary to help defend miners across all New Eden from null to .5 Sec Space. Given that ganking occurs at gates and belts the typical frigate or destroyer does not have enough response time to either drive away or destroy Privateers. Therefore I am suggesting that ORE develop the Hellcat to help counter the Privateering.
The Hellcat, which is based off of an old Earth tank destroyer from World War II was the fastest tank destroyer for that era which performed when compared to kill / loss ratio.
The base hull design would be taken from the Prospect Class Expedition Frigate with the forward arms removed to reduce mass.
4 high slots
4 medium slots
3 low slots
2 small rig slots
The Hellcat would incorporate the new hybrid Warp Accelerator with the Micro Jump Drive named the Micro Accelerator Jump Drive which when fit to the Hellcat would add an additional Warp Speed bonus of 20,000,000 million kilometers per level of the skilled learned which would allow the unit an increase of warp speed velocity by 33%.
It's high warp speed and high velocity of 500 m/3 with Micro Warp Drive fit would make this ship more than a match for any frigate or destroyer that is caught pirating.
5% damage bonus to any type of weapon fit per level of the Hellcat trained to.
5% optimal range for any weapon type fit per level of the Hellcat trained to.
15% bonus to rocket damage.
10% bonus to rocket optimal range.
2% bonus to shields and armor per level of Hellcat trained to.
Possible implementation of Precision Guided Bombs and new Precision Guided Bomb Launcher that could only be used on the Hellcat. Cannot be used in High Sec Space
Possible implementation of Frigate based torpedo and torpedo launcher.
Possible implementation of Cynosural Generator.
Possible implementation of Web Stasisfier Nullifier Rig that would nullify the ability of the ship to be webbed. 10% reduction in web stasisfying effect per level of Hellcat trained to.
Would retain the warp while cloaked capability of the Prospect.
With ganking on gates in the belts and general pirating continuing to be an everyday issue a small versatile ship is needed
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HiddenPorpoise
Expendable Miscreants
382
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Posted - 2015.06.28 06:52:14 -
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I don't understand what I'm looking at. Are you describing a bomber but better? |
Siobhan MacLeary
Free Trade Monopoly
You Are Being Monitored
204
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Posted - 2015.06.28 07:00:24 -
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So let me get this straight. You want a frigate that has a 25%-50% bonus to rocket damage and 15%-40% optimal range (flight time? speed? idk) bonus to the same. Said frigate also has a 2%-10% bonus to shield/armor resists (or is it amount?). It can also launch bombs (why?), use torpedo launchers, easily fit a cyno, and can warp cloaked.
Oh, and it also brings with it two special-snowflake "I MINE FOR REALS" modules and associated skills, the first of which reduces the speed reduction of stasis webifiers by 10% per level, meaning that it can completely ignore a T1 Stasis Webifier at max skills. The second module/skill combo increases warp speed by THIRTY-THREE ******* PERCENT PER LEVEL, which means training the skill to 5 increases your warp speed by ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY-FIVE PERCENT.
Are you ******* serious? You want a cloaked interceptor-bomber that magically can shut down webs and warp 165% faster than the base warp speed of all frigates.
The name you've chosen for your abortion of an idea is an insult to the Hellcat tank destroyer.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3747
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Posted - 2015.06.28 07:40:33 -
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What a lovely idea Dryson. I can see you've put a lot of thought and effort into it. Well done :)
Oh god.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10442
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Posted - 2015.06.28 08:56:41 -
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Covops Assault Bomber Ceptor , Best frigate evarrr!!!!
I missed these threads dryson, spectacular return to form.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
Get Off My Lawn
1181
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Posted - 2015.06.28 09:28:24 -
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I'll just leave this here: http://i.imgur.com/QAzAN2X.png
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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To mare
Advanced Technology
415
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Posted - 2015.06.28 11:07:58 -
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need to be able to mount a DDD device effective against subcaps and can be used in high sec not to forget it can be used from AUs away just to defend those poor miners against those damn gankers |
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3516
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Posted - 2015.06.28 11:26:24 -
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You forgot to ask for bubble immunity too. |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1152
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Posted - 2015.06.28 11:30:48 -
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It should have something like 20% reduced sigrad per level so the gankers can't gank you back when you gank them. |
Zappity
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
2294
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Posted - 2015.06.28 11:53:26 -
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It should OBVIOUSLY also have the Drifter doomsday weapon. And it should only get a suspect flag (rather than criminal) for aggressing Catalysts.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
492
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:50:49 -
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you guys are all forgetting... It has bastion...
And when you click bastion it morphs into a titan with all the trimmings thereoff |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
684
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:08:24 -
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OP....how does fitting nano and warp rigs not give our valiant vigilante time to land on a belt?
Why are you also assuming this will be used to defend the poor miner, and not kill them?
Also if looking to defend the miner why is our guardian of truth, justice and the new eden way not sitting in the area uncloaked, arms crossed as it were saying go ahead....make my day? Muscle upfront and visible would be better for the miner.
You see the scenario you are setting up...miner is bait. Bait and tackle tends to work a hell of a lot better when bait and tackle are fleeted up already, in voice comms (for more rapid communication), and confident in each others's abilities.
When I played bait and tackle if tackle....I'd say please show me the bait fit so I know what tank you are working with (if a crap tank...this a waste of time really if fit that bad off it has no chance in hell).
If bait...I'd like to know ahead of time what backup is bringing to the party. If undergunned and crap fit....its doing me no good. Hell worst case the guy is popping me in the bait ship and my backup. So again an utter waste of time.
In short....I'd use this more to find, land and pop miner faster than any savior of them would. All the crap you are tacking on...I am instapopping the miner worst case aligned and gone before Dudley Doright is even on grid. |
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2859
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:45:13 -
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Been a while since I tripped across an 'it can kill everything make my ship the best' thread, thank you . . . I needed the laugh.
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Mike Azariah Gö¼GöÇGöÇGö¼n++ ¯|(pâä)/¯
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elitatwo
Eve Minions
Poopstain Removal Team
702
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:18:27 -
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I thought that was the purpose of the tech3 destroyers??
Tired of low and nullsec? Join Eve Minions and experience the beauty of wormholes!
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
282
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Posted - 2015.06.29 00:53:09 -
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I have misread the topic as - Hecate
frigate hellcate hecate you know that sort of things  |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
474
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Posted - 2015.06.29 03:47:00 -
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What D3? (Looks at smoldering ship wreck) Ah, that D3.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
3990
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Posted - 2015.06.29 05:20:44 -
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Looks like I found who stole my crack. Stop smoking my **** man, not cool.
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting.
Grrr I tell you. Grrr.
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter
Absolute Zero.
893
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Posted - 2015.06.29 06:08:52 -
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At first I thought about wrong Hellcat. Needless to say that it doesn't sit well with the "fast response" part. |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
The Periphery
867
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Posted - 2015.06.29 08:22:06 -
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Leaving aside the fact that this thing is massively overpowered and game breaking for the moment OP you do realise that there is no way in hell that this would ever be used for the purpose you intend it?
If it were ever implemented not only would it make multiple ship classes redundant it would probably lead to the extinction of ratting and mining in a great swathe of known space.
Not supported.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
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Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force
A T O N E M E N T
705
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Posted - 2015.06.29 08:31:22 -
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Do you see how overpowered this is lol |
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage
RAZOR Alliance
570
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Posted - 2015.06.29 10:26:15 -
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sigh
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
17748
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Posted - 2015.06.29 10:50:01 -
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I'm sure you can do just fine with your current tools, Mr Sir. |
James Baboli
Novablasters
942
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Posted - 2015.06.29 13:45:22 -
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I like it in theory.
That theory being that fast response frigates are a thing. Like interceptors fit for combat....
I cannot stress how broken, wrong and unfun this sort of a ship would be if anyone were to implement it as you propose.
Talking more,
Flying crazier,
And drinking more
Making battleships worth the warp
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
475
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Posted - 2015.06.29 15:24:39 -
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James Baboli wrote:I like it in theory.
That theory being that fast response frigates are a thing. Like interceptors fit for combat....
I cannot stress how broken, wrong and unfun this sort of a ship would be if anyone were to implement it as you propose.
To be fairly honest, it would be the funniest **** for about five minutes, but yeah then it would be the worst thing imaginable. This could only possibly work for an "last day Eve servers are up" event or maybe a test server shenanigans thing with no intent to release on TQ.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
397
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Posted - 2015.06.29 17:58:45 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:I think that a Fast Response Frigate is necessary to help defend miners across all New Eden from null to .5 Sec Space. Given that ganking occurs at gates and belts the typical frigate or destroyer does not have enough response time to either drive away or destroy Privateers. Therefore I am suggesting that ORE develop the Hellcat to help counter the Privateering.
The Hellcat, which is based off of an old Earth tank destroyer from World War II was the fastest tank destroyer for that era which performed when compared to kill / loss ratio.
The base hull design would be taken from the Prospect Class Expedition Frigate with the forward arms removed to reduce mass.
4 high slots
4 medium slots
3 low slots
2 small rig slots
The Hellcat would incorporate the new hybrid Warp Accelerator with the Micro Jump Drive named the Micro Accelerator Jump Drive which when fit to the Hellcat would add an additional Warp Speed bonus of 20,000,000 million kilometers per level of the skilled learned which would allow the unit an increase of warp speed velocity by 33%.
It's high warp speed and high velocity of 500 m/3 with Micro Warp Drive fit would make this ship more than a match for any frigate or destroyer that is caught pirating.
5% damage bonus to any type of weapon fit per level of the Hellcat trained to.
5% optimal range for any weapon type fit per level of the Hellcat trained to.
15% bonus to rocket damage.
10% bonus to rocket optimal range.
2% bonus to shields and armor per level of Hellcat trained to.
Possible implementation of Precision Guided Bombs and new Precision Guided Bomb Launcher that could only be used on the Hellcat. Cannot be used in High Sec Space
Possible implementation of Frigate based torpedo and torpedo launcher.
Possible implementation of Cynosural Generator.
Possible implementation of Web Stasisfier Nullifier Rig that would nullify the ability of the ship to be webbed. 10% reduction in web stasisfying effect per level of Hellcat trained to.
Would retain the warp while cloaked capability of the Prospect.
With ganking on gates in the belts and general pirating continuing to be an everyday issue a small versatile ship is needed
A bonus of ~0,1 AU per level seems incredibly low, no one would ever use your confusingly named new module. Or modules, it's not really clear.
Your ideas in general are not very clear, because your ideas are a jumbled mess not working very well together. In bizzaro world, where CCP made your crazy ship, countless miners will be slaughtered by this ship. Because surprise, surprise: If a ship is totally overpowered, a lot of people will use it. See also Ishtar.
The idea of some sort of negative bonus against webs sounds interesting, at least. Everything else is just dumb, though. |
Brandi Wiseman
Den Sorte Loge
75
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Posted - 2015.06.29 18:51:36 -
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I think it needs an additional high slot
Fly Caldari!
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Alundil
Isogen 5
990
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Posted - 2015.06.30 05:49:38 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Been a while since I tripped across an 'it can kill everything make my ship the best' thread, thank you . . . I needed the laugh.
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Great!!
Now this thread has CSM tag legitimacy. What have you done Azariah? What have you done?
I'm right behind you
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412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite
CODE.
296
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Posted - 2015.07.01 04:35:18 -
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I prefer the scissor technique for stopping ganks
A True Champion of High Security Space
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Alundil
Isogen 5
991
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Posted - 2015.07.02 04:01:11 -
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412nv Yaken wrote:I prefer the scissor technique for stopping ganks.
Can you please elaborate to the readers the masterful technique
that is when two "svipuls" are in prop mode and their "models" clip together.....uh I'll be in my bunk
I'm right behind you
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Kenrailae
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
392
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Posted - 2015.07.02 05:06:04 -
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This ship is completely unnecessary. A new player with a day's training can get into a T1 frigate and be more than sufficient in PVP.
The Law is a point of View
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