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EnForceR Zealot
Spectraliz IIZ
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Posted - 2015.06.30 11:09:17 -
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Just easier way to copy+paste one from internet then check+block by yourself in Jita all the time. The thing everybody want! The thing you MUST add to your "to do list" CCP! |
Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2935
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Posted - 2015.06.30 11:11:40 -
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Scammers rarely exist outside of Jita, Rens, Amarr and Dodixie. Why do you need a compiled list of who is scamming in local?
Roleplaying Trinkets for Explorers and Collectors
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Mark Hadden
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
48
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Posted - 2015.06.30 11:14:34 -
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why do you read local at all in trade hubs? There is really 99.99% of spam&scam. |
EnForceR Zealot
Spectraliz IIZ
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Posted - 2015.06.30 11:36:58 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Scammers rarely exist outside of Jita, Rens, Amarr and Dodixie. Why do you need a compiled list of who is scamming in local?
Better service, less clicks, improved game experience.
Mark Hadden wrote:why do you read local at all in trade hubs? There is really 99.99% of spam&scam.
What else are people doing in hubs? Selling and buying stuff, reading local that contains "99.99% of spam&scam". What do you prefer to see when you going to local market in your city:
Option 1: price-list
Option 2: smiling trader with golden teeth |
Iain Cariaba
1567
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Posted - 2015.06.30 12:47:33 -
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How much did you lose to the scammer?
Edit: Oh, and which scam did you fall for?
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Will troll for a t-shirt.
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FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
502
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Posted - 2015.06.30 12:58:24 -
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Well it might be a fun new product an uptodate block list;)
but yeah i just dont open local in tradehubs unless i want to see what the HOT new scam is... |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
346
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Posted - 2015.06.30 13:40:09 -
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-1 to the idea, devs have more important things to work on.
I always read local when I am in a trade hub. many times I have nearly fallen out of my chair laughing at the stuff the scammers think people will far for. |
Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2015.06.30 14:15:13 -
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EnForceR Zealot wrote:Just easier way to copy+paste one from internet then check+block by yourself in Jita all the time. The thing everybody want! The thing you MUST add to your "to do list" CCP!
I can sell you this feature, just send me 50 mil in game. |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
The Periphery
882
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Posted - 2015.06.30 14:26:54 -
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Ignore Jita, Amarr, Dodixie, Rens and Hek local........
Problem solved.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
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EnForceR Zealot
Spectraliz IIZ
21
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Posted - 2015.06.30 14:31:07 -
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Guys, if you are so oldfaged that just used to live with that - it's okay. If CCP have more important things to do - it's okay. I just asked to put it in "to do list" after more important things are gonna be released, i think it's good thing to do for "little things team".
Petre en Thielles wrote:I can sell you this feature, just send me 50 mil in game.
Gonna buy when addons gonna be supported |
Zura Namee
Love Squad
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
33
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Posted - 2015.06.30 14:35:09 -
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EnForceR Zealot wrote:Just easier way to copy+paste one from internet then check+block by yourself in Jita all the time. The thing everybody want! The thing you MUST add to your "to do list" CCP!
Feature already in game. Click on local tab when in trade hubs and select 'Blink Off' |
EnForceR Zealot
Spectraliz IIZ
21
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Posted - 2015.06.30 14:38:40 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:How much did you lose to the scammer?
Edit: Oh, and which scam did you fall for?
By this logic i can say: "everyone who against this idea are just earning from scam-alts" |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2482
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Posted - 2015.06.30 14:46:09 -
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I'm sorry you got scammed but if you want sympathy, the better way to approach the situation would have been to start out by admitting that you made a mistake, then tell us you feel maybe the punishment was a bit severe. We might pat you on the back and give you some stale cookies to help you get back on your feet, or maybe advice, or whatever. And the anger will diminish over time.
But the first step is admitting that you could have avoided it, had you known then what you know...well hopefully now and definitely by someday.
As for making a list of scammers, that's really a job left to the players to create. If you want to suggest tools to assist players in creating such lists, I'm all ears, but such tools need to leave a lot of the work to the players. I don't care whether or not CCP owns a list of scammers, there's never going to be a reason for them to give the list to players. Or maybe I am misunderstanding the OP.
Give me a top hat.
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Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2015.06.30 14:47:20 -
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EnForceR Zealot wrote:
By this logic i can say: "everyone who against this idea are just earning from scam-alts"
On a serious note, why do you need this? Scams are stupidly easy to spot as it is...
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2482
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Posted - 2015.06.30 14:50:06 -
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Petre en Thielles wrote:On a serious note, why do you need this? Scams are stupidly easy to spot as it is...
It really depends on how well the player understands the system. There aren't a lot of scams left that do a very good job of tricking an astute player, but there's still the margin trading scam, for one.
Give me a top hat.
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EnForceR Zealot
Spectraliz IIZ
21
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Posted - 2015.06.30 15:21:33 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:...
Dude i wasn't scammed today, but been scammed once after new year, when i was afterparty, in kind of lotterry when some counts "3...2...1... scam/cheap thing". Also, don't think that creating ingame tools or code is work for players, it's work of those who gets salary... eve is not open-source project... but if there is option to somehow write and use external program that will automatically add names of scammers to block list and not be banned by using 3-rd party software - that option might be awesome at least for part of community that don't cares about EULA. So if there is gonna be legal ingame option to import list by couple of clicks thats gonna launch wave of block-lists that are created by community of players that are actually care and help to create better game experience for the rest of glad dudes
If i understanded your answer not correct please explain where)
Petre en Thielles wrote:
On a serious note, why do you need this? Scams are stupidly easy to spot as it is...
Know dude, just want better tool to be available, like tripwire for those who likes to map WH-s, scammmer-lists for those who likes clean jita local with hornest traders to deal or just to chat without being interrupted in the middle of conversation by scam, yeah just like that, even if looks unimaginable
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2935
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Posted - 2015.06.30 15:25:51 -
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Good scammers roll there alts to keep the names fresh. Your list would always be out of date.
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Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
165
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Posted - 2015.06.30 15:25:56 -
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EnForceR Zealot wrote:
Know dude, just want better tool to be available, like tripwire for those who likes to map WH-s, scammmer-lists for those who likes clean jita local with hornest traders to deal or just to chat without being interrupted in the middle of conversation by scam, yeah just like that, even if looks unimaginable
Tripwire wasn't made by CCP. It is made and run by players.
If you want something similar for scammers, make it yourself. That's the idea behind a sandbox. |
Lim Hiaret
Hiaret Family
8
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Posted - 2015.06.30 15:44:43 -
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I think there are some chat channels that specialize in trade or 'secure' trade. The scammer in there do have more self respect and post much less mind-boggling scams. Isn't that a better solution to this problem?
And for newer players CCP should add the Oportunity 'Close Jita local'
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EnForceR Zealot
Spectraliz IIZ
21
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Posted - 2015.06.30 17:04:48 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Good scammers roll there alts to keep the names fresh. Your list would always be out of date.
It's up to scam-list manager to update it, nobody said that it gonna work with all online scammers, if it was like this it would take more golden coders time from CCP to add "live synchronization" option or even couple of guys that are monitoring local 24/7 and you just subscribed to receive fresh names to your list... Too much work dude, not for busy little CCP team. Microsoft or Google company can handle such amount of work but not a little Icelandic company that currently in trouble with lowered players online on servers and must do their best to make them come back again.
Updating blocked list each time by yourself from source that frequently updated by players is best option i can see, cuz main updating work is gonna be done by community. CCP just adds 1 button.
Petre en Thielles wrote:
Tripwire wasn't made by CCP. It is made and run by players.
If you want something similar for scammers, make it yourself. That's the idea behind a sandbox.
And there are literally zero honest traders in jita local.
I can create the list but not an ingame option to load all the list in couple clicks, importing it name by name is less functional. If i use 3-rd party software to add scammers automatically it becomes problem with EULA rules. Tripware just reads your ingame activity and not writing it. With current functionality i can only add players one by one... but amount of scammers are asking me to add them by dozens... The hornest traders gonna come as soon as scammers gonna be cleaned out so there is no gonna be need to create extra trade channel and distribute it's name |
Lim Hiaret
Hiaret Family
9
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Posted - 2015.06.30 17:21:24 -
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Here is a valid business plan:
1. start your own channel
2. charge a fee for getting onto that channel
3. invite some traders for free to make the channel relevant
4. generate enough revenue on that channel to make it worthwile to be on
5. bann scammer from your channel
6. stay classy
I accept your donations
Thanks!
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Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
167
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Posted - 2015.07.01 13:50:24 -
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EnForceR Zealot wrote:I can create the list but not an ingame option to load all the list in couple clicks, importing it name by name is less functional. If i use 3-rd party software to add scammers automatically it becomes problem with EULA rules. Tripware just reads your ingame activity and not writing it. With current functionality i can only add players one by one... but amount of scammers are asking me to add them by dozens... The hornest traders gonna come as soon as scammers gonna be cleaned out so there is no gonna be need to create extra trade channel and distribute it's name
If you had your own private chat channel for honest traders, and they all had the ability to add scammers to a list that can be accessed via the in game browser, it would work well. Think crowdsourcing.
Stop asking CCP to do your work for you, and get started on the project. |
EnForceR Zealot
Spectraliz IIZ
21
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Posted - 2015.07.01 15:50:48 -
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Petre en Thielles wrote:
If you had your own private chat channel for honest traders, and they all had the ability to add scammers to a list that can be accessed via the in game browser, it would work well. Think crowdsourcing.
Stop asking CCP to do your work for you, and get started on the project.
What the point to add traders one by one? It takes too much time. CCP must do their work any way, online is going down and that means that company must finally listen what players say and do their best, thats CCP who must think crowdsourcing and organize kind of interaction with programmers and designers outside their small company, with those who ready to work for nothing, just cuz they love this game and can contribute in... If CCP's high command was clever anought to gather information and ready to try new possibilities - the game could become better, but they are not... And community is not organized enought to push what they want, CSM actually have minor influence. I gonna work on scammers list as soon as CCP gonna add fresh button, thanks.
Lim Hiaret wrote:Here is a valid business plan:
1. start your own channel
2. charge a fee for getting onto that channel
3. invite some traders for free to make the channel relevant
4. generate enough revenue on that channel to make it worthwile to be on
5. bann scammer from your channel
6. stay classy
I accept your donations
Thanks!
Adding one button to the game could cut steps to:
1. Type in google "scammers list eve"
2. Copy
3. Paste by using "import from clipboard" ingame option
4. Enjoy the technical progress |
James Baboli
Novablasters
950
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Posted - 2015.07.01 15:55:28 -
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Petre en Thielles wrote:
And there are literally zero honest traders in jita local.
Eh, you see about 3 a day who are honest traders, and 5-10 scammers who admit it's a scam and want money for lulz value of a scammer admitting it.
Talking more,
Flying crazier,
And drinking more
Making battleships worth the warp
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
851
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Posted - 2015.07.01 16:16:46 -
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The complaint in here is a bit specific. Import/Export for block lists and standings is a more general suggestion and might gain more traction. Is that what you were thinking with this? If so take a +1.
There are all our dominion
Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
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EnForceR Zealot
Spectraliz IIZ
21
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Posted - 2015.07.02 19:23:28 -
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Up, thx for support, CCP is good company that cares about players |
EnForceR Zealot
Spectraliz IIZ
21
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Posted - 2015.07.11 11:07:19 -
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Up |
Iain Cariaba
1631
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Posted - 2015.07.11 15:29:00 -
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Forum Rules link wrote:15. Bumping outside the EVE Marketplace and Alliance & Corporation Recruitment channels is prohibited.
Reported.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Will troll for a t-shirt.
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