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Nybbas
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2006.11.29 08:18:00 -
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Please tell me it rocks and that it isn't going to be as god awful as it looks to me... someone?
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Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
The Corporation Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 08:25:00 -
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I'll translate a swedish proverb for you (although it'll lose it's rhythm and rhyme):
Taste is like the behind - divided. (Smaken Sr som baken - delad)
It's not too awesome, it's not ****e. The Hyperion offers nothing new over the Megathron, it's only a bit different. It's tanking bonus doesn't shine, it's increased turrets comes at the price of decreased drones and decreased nosferatu options (which are vital in this patch).
It really, really, suffer from that it's not the only blaster ship of it's class.
So, to sum it up: Megathron or Hyperion - it doesn't matter too much which you chose.
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Pattern Clarc
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.11.29 08:29:00 -
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with rigs... the right ones, the hyperion is ******* awesome.
With BS 5 and 2 t2 armor rep amount rights, it can repair around 1800 hp a cycle with LAR II.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.29 08:53:00 -
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as long as it is not nossed, yeah, it's a nice ship.
played with it allot in the test server.
also I can say this: TD's are your friend.
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 Originally by: Tiuwaz
for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons 
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Nybbas
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2006.11.29 10:51:00 -
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It is kind of dissappointing more people arn't disturbed by this... or am i just being a *****?
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.29 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nybbas
It is kind of dissappointing more people arn't disturbed by this... or am i just being a *****?
Disturbed by what? They Hype sucking? Go read the Revelations Development Forum. I've been pointing out the problems for a month. All I get is flamed.
Because I said so...
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar
Omacron Militia
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Posted - 2006.11.29 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Nybbas
It is kind of dissappointing more people arn't disturbed by this... or am i just being a *****?
Disturbed by what? They Hype sucking? Go read the Revelations Development Forum. I've been pointing out the problems for a month. All I get is flamed.
because you are clueless and your setups suck
Originally by: Gallente Information Ministry
A Myrmidon pilot with 5 heavy drones is a bad pilot, someone who dies to him can only be worse.
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LWMaverick
Quam Singulari
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.29 12:14:00 -
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Im not utterly impressed with its performance, i find myslef thinking "hmm, okay, this damage is rather nice, and the tanking isnt that bad either, but why would i choose this ship over my oh-so-trusted megathron?"
Im gonna stick with the megathron tbh.
/Mav
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Sergei Turov
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.29 12:26:00 -
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The Hype isnt bad. Its not great either. Its pretty much a slightly diffrent mega.
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Loka
Gallente
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.29 12:36:00 -
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hey 1 mininglaser more than the Mega, why complain?
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Kazaam
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.29 12:49:00 -
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I tried the following setup a bit on Sisi,althoough I don't have some T2 skills yet :
High :
4x Modal Neutron Blaster II
4x Heavy Diminishing
Med :
1x Quad Lif MWD
1x Named Web
1x Named Scrambler 20kms
1x Heavy Cap Booster II
1x Sensor Booster II
Low :
3x Radioisotopes Hardeners (Exp,Kin,Therm)
1x EANM I
2x LAR 'Accommodation'
10x Hammerheads I in bay
3x Powergrid Rigs
Worked quite well
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.29 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Edited by: LWMaverick on 29/11/2006 12:17:04
Im not utterly impressed with its performance, i find myslef thinking "hmm, okay, this damage is rather nice, and the tanking isnt that bad either, but why would i choose this ship over my oh-so-trusted megathron?"
I think im gonna stick with the megathron, at least in most situations..
But im surely gonna buy one or two hehe.
/Mav
exactly.
it does dish a bit more damage thru turrets than the megathron, at the price of having a smaller drone bay, and less lows to tank.
it is a bit more versatile due to the 5 meds tho.
all in all, it does the job as well as the mega, altho it has a bit of a diferent flavour on it.
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
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Dreadmuppet Four
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Posted - 2006.11.29 13:23:00 -
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It's also not a bad sniper - with 2 power grid mod rigs in there you have enough grid to mount a full rack of 425TIIs and a lot of damage mods.
I quite like it but not tried any of the other T3 ships yet
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Heelay Ashrum
Caldari
Santhe Sienar Technologies
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Posted - 2006.11.29 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dreadmuppet Four
It's also not a bad sniper - with 2 power grid mod rigs in there you have enough grid to mount a full rack of 425TIIs and a lot of damage mods.
I quite like it but not tried any of the other T3 ships yet
that i was just thinking ... with the rep bonus could be at least an exellent "mission running" ship. The real issue it's the powercore. I'm not sure how it's viable to be userd with full rack of 425mm ( or 350mm). Someone tried a rail setup? it fitts?
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Commander Nikolas
Gallente
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.11.29 14:36:00 -
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Hyperion isn't a Tier 3 Battleship, fly the Rohk. Use Speed/Agility Rigs. It is by a large margin the best blaster platform in eve right now.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.11.29 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Twilight Moon on 29/11/2006 14:43:50
It rocks, played about with it on the test server, 8 Neutrons FTW! It just tore massive chunks out of things.
Not to mention, the ship model (imho) looks excellent.
Edit: Saying that now though....I dunno if I'd pay the price tag that its insurance cost suggests it will be...
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ramptrick
Caldari
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Pattern Clarc
with rigs... the right ones, the hyperion is ******* awesome.
With BS 5 and 2 t2 armor rep amount rights, it can repair around 1800 hp a cycle with LAR II.
well if you fit an armour repping rig plus use combat boosters to boost your armour rep amount on SiSI i was reppping nearly 3k armour with 2x LAR II's. thats a huge amount to rep in 11.45 secs!!!
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Nybbas
It is kind of dissappointing more people arn't disturbed by this... or am i just being a *****?
Disturbed by what? They Hype sucking? Go read the Revelations Development Forum. I've been pointing out the problems for a month. All I get is flamed.
because you are clueless and your setups suck
My setups are brilliant, you're just too stupid to appreciate them.
Because I said so...
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: ramptrick
Originally by: Pattern Clarc
with rigs... the right ones, the hyperion is ******* awesome.
With BS 5 and 2 t2 armor rep amount rights, it can repair around 1800 hp a cycle with LAR II.
well if you fit an armour repping rig plus use combat boosters to boost your armour rep amount on SiSI i was reppping nearly 3k armour with 2x LAR II's. thats a huge amount to rep in 11.45 secs!!!
Yep, it can tank like crazy, as long as you don't mind flying about 800m/sec topped out with a T2 MWD. The rig penalties on the armor rigs are just horrible. The speed penalty not only cripples your top speed but it also ruins your acceleration.
If you're fitting two or three rep rigs in order to get these big rep numbers, then you arn't fitting grid rigs, and that means you're going to end up with a very light weight ion or electron gun setup.
Because I said so...
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Griever Takkow
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Posted - 2006.11.29 17:24:00 -
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I did find a pretty viable rail setup actually:
8 x 350 II
Heavy injector, Webber, TD II, 2 Cap chargers
2x LAR II, 2 x EANM II, DC, 1600 plate
Needed 1 Power grid rig and i fitted 2 cap rigs .
Obviously not a solo ship, but tanks like a demon and will still hit if stuff flies in close to you.
24km Optimal and 24 falloff with AM so its short range sensors don't matter.
With an RCU II instead of a plate i think its possible to push it up to 425 II's as well.
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Nybbas
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2006.11.29 18:09:00 -
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so yeah basically.... thanks tux for keeping the "temporary" armor rep bonus... which of course from the beggining we all knew it wasnt going to get changed again, and then on top of that turning the "dedicated blaster platform" into something that basically does the exact same thing as a megathron, except maybe a TINY bit different... I can't believe this crap, the caldari get a tier 3 thats entirely different from anything they have had before in their battleship class, (and is also an amazing ship) and gallente get some recycled garbage... at least it looks cool i guess.... and it seems from what people reccommend here... set it up for rails but why do that when i have a megathron... or better yet can train up caldari and use the rohk?
I guess I am finally going to train caldari battleship skills on this character, so i can get my blasterboat and my railboat.
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Mila Prestoc
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Posted - 2006.11.29 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 29/11/2006 18:46:28
Originally by: murder one
Yep, it can tank like crazy, as long as you don't mind flying about 800m/sec topped out with a T2 MWD. The rig penalties on the armor rigs are just horrible. The speed penalty not only cripples your top speed but it also ruins your acceleration.
If you're fitting two or three rep rigs in order to get these big rep numbers, then you arn't fitting grid rigs, and that means you're going to end up with a very light weight ion or electron gun setup.
Seriously, your creativity and setups are rubbish. Your whole mentality of setting up ships needs to change.
In the other topic you were either fitting ions/neutrons + 3x MFS or smaller guns + dual rep tanks with activate hards + eanm + dc. then complaining about cap use or not killing the target before you died... you were using extemes of gank or tank. none with rigs, I bet you tested against people who were using rigs though.
Heres a BIGGER hint than I and various other pilots have been giving. 1x LAR T2 does 95% of 2x LAR T2. So why waste fitting/slot to fit 2 reps? Getting the idea now?
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EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid, catered to by devs as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.29 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 29/11/2006 19:16:41
Originally by: Nybbas
so yeah basically.... thanks tux for keeping the "temporary" armor rep bonus... which of course from the beggining we all knew it wasnt going to get changed again, and then on top of that turning the "dedicated blaster platform" into something that basically does the exact same thing as a megathron, except maybe a TINY bit different... I can't believe this crap, the caldari get a tier 3 thats entirely different from anything they have had before in their battleship class, (and is also an amazing ship) and gallente get some recycled garbage... at least it looks cool i guess.... and it seems from what people reccommend here... set it up for rails but why do that when i have a megathron... or better yet can train up caldari and use the rohk?
I guess I am finally going to train caldari battleship skills on this character, so i can get my blasterboat and my railboat.
meh... I said it would be better to have a dmg + rof bonus, since that way the hyperion would become a glass cannon like that, but noooo.
oh well, truth the hype is not a bad blasterboat, but since the rohk is so much better, why flying one?
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.29 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Nikolas
It is by a large margin the best blaster platform in eve right now.
I really like the Astarte more in Kali... at least on SISI anyways...
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Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.29 20:08:00 -
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I wanna see how that agility bonus looked like, can we at least have a open test of it on SiSi now?
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Nebuli
Caldari
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.29 20:56:00 -
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Gave up complaining about the Hype when it actualy hit test server.
Predicted it would be a waste of pixels before it was even available for test, it was a badly thought out design, with badly thought out bonus's, and badly implemented.
Rohk is a better blaster platform than Hype, and is a better rail platform than the mega, w00t?
Nvm, guess I can just train Caldari BS4-5 and I'm good again, not sure why I should have to though but hey ho.
CEO - Art of War
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Nybbas
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli
Gave up complaining about the Hype when it actualy hit test server.
Predicted it would be a waste of pixels before it was even available for test, it was a badly thought out design, with badly thought out bonus's, and badly implemented.
Rohk is a better blaster platform than Hype, and is a better rail platform than the mega, w00t?
Nvm, guess I can just train Caldari BS4-5 and I'm good again, not sure why I should have to though but hey ho.
honestly, I am for the first time after all these years training up caldari skills to get into caldari battleships, so i can have the rail/blasterboat i always wanted *sigh*
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Nybbas
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2006.11.30 08:54:00 -
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are there really no people who mind that the hyperion is just a megathron with a body kit on it?!?!
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Royaldo
Old Farts
The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:02:00 -
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actually, i think the 1100 rep i get with a t2 rep is kinda cool. and then i could also fit 8 t2 ions. However the problem is tracking. This ship will only be good for small gangs where you are sure to find bs targets. Because you wont hit anything smaller.
blaster people gave up long ago on trying to tell tux whats wrong with it.
this is just slightly different mega, with a higher price, which is why ill still use megathron and skip this.
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Kristoffer
Amarr
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kristoffer on 30/11/2006 09:06:45
Edited by: Kristoffer on 30/11/2006 09:04:38
I encourage all of you to train caldari because the hyperion sucks so much and the rokh owns. Really. Im being serious. Mabey it will make the demand go down which means cheaper Hyps for me.
lol.
I love the hyperion, its a great ship, it really is. Learn to use it. Learn what It can do and can't do. Fight 30+ fights on test server and then get a clue.
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