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Laboratus Gallente BGG Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.30 09:07:00 - [31] Originally by: Loka hey 1 mininglaser more than the Mega, why complain? Oh, very true. It's a mining ship for Gallantean. Meroxite here I come! But really, it needs less mass to be good at what it does. And a full drone bay... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.30 09:11:00 - [32] Originally by: Kristoffer Edited by: Kristoffer on 30/11/2006 09:06:45 Edited by: Kristoffer on 30/11/2006 09:04:38 I encourage all of you to train caldari because the hyperion sucks so much and the rokh owns. Really. Im being serious. Mabey it will make the demand go down which means cheaper Hyps for me. lol. I love the hyperion, its a great ship, it really is. Learn to use it. Learn what It can do and can't do. Fight 30+ fights on test server and then get a clue. What it can/cannot do doesn't differ from what a megathron can or cannot do. It just does it a bit different. ( and the difference sure as hell isn't one I like. ) Only reason I'll get one is cause of looks. Won't even fit the thing.
Kristoffer Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2006.11.30 09:16:00 - [33] Edited by: Kristoffer on 30/11/2006 09:17:32 Originally by: Gariuys Originally by: Kristoffer Edited by: Kristoffer on 30/11/2006 09:06:45 Edited by: Kristoffer on 30/11/2006 09:04:38 I encourage all of you to train caldari because the hyperion sucks so much and the rokh owns. Really. Im being serious. Mabey it will make the demand go down which means cheaper Hyps for me. lol. I love the hyperion, its a great ship, it really is. Learn to use it. Learn what It can do and can't do. Fight 30+ fights on test server and then get a clue. What it can/cannot do doesn't differ from what a megathron can or cannot do. It just does it a bit different. ( and the difference sure as hell isn't one I like. ) Only reason I'll get one is cause of looks. Won't even fit the thing. Shrug. I consider tanking somewhere around 3294 damage per double rep cycle while dealing acceptable DPS to still make it a threat quite a difference.
Infrared Raven Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2006.11.30 09:40:00 - [34] Originally by: Kristoffer Shrug. I consider tanking somewhere around 3294 damage per double rep cycle while dealing acceptable DPS to still make it a threat quite a difference. Until you run out of cap... Infrared Raven. Your on-site Cruiser and Battlecruiser BPO Vendor
Epidemis	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:33:00 - [35] The min BS is just as worse...
Royaldo Old Farts The Phantom Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:35:00 - [36] Originally by: Epidemis The min BS is just as worse... dont agree at all.
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.11.30 20:39:00 - [37] even if its "just as worse" at least you got somewhat of a different ship : /
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.11.30 20:54:00 - [38] Originally by: Kazaam I tried the following setup a bit on Sisi,althoough I don't have some T2 skills yet : High : 4x Modal Neutron Blaster II 4x Heavy Diminishing Med : 1x Quad Lif MWD 1x Named Web 1x Named Scrambler 20kms 1x Heavy Cap Booster II 1x Sensor Booster II Low : 3x Radioisotopes Hardeners (Exp,Kin,Therm) 1x EANM I 2x LAR 'Accommodation' 10x Hammerheads I in bay 3x Powergrid Rigs Worked quite well Thread ended. That's a blater boat right thar. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:14:00 - [39] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg Originally by: Kazaam I tried the following setup a bit on Sisi,althoough I don't have some T2 skills yet : High : 4x Modal Neutron Blaster II 4x Heavy Diminishing Med : 1x Quad Lif MWD 1x Named Web 1x Named Scrambler 20kms 1x Heavy Cap Booster II 1x Sensor Booster II Low : 3x Radioisotopes Hardeners (Exp,Kin,Therm) 1x EANM I 2x LAR 'Accommodation' 10x Hammerheads I in bay 3x Powergrid Rigs Worked quite well Thread ended. That's a blater boat right thar. If I wanted to fly around in a omghax nos boat I'd fly a dominix. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Kiaara	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:17:00 - [40] Where the heck does everyone go on the test server to fight? I never run into anyone! I wind up going to look for a pack of angel saints to see how stuff measures up against my ratting domi.

Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:17:00 - [41] This thread reminds me of the "BOOST Deimos" thread.. I'm anxiously waiting for Tuxford to be replaced! Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
Mila Prestoc	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:20:00 - [42] Originally by: Kunming This thread reminds me of the "BOOST Deimos" thread.. I'm anxiously waiting for Tuxford to be replaced! I'm anxiously waiting for everyone to shut up complaining about this ship when any problems it has, also causes every other ship the same problems... As Tux would say, "how about I nerf the blaster-Mega to make the Hyperion better?" ------------------------- Originally by: "Lord Violent" EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid, catered to by devs as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:31:00 - [43] Keep thinking its crap, if you manage to spread that belief enough I'll get more fights in mine. With the right setup, its a far superior basterboat than the mega. Or the fuggin' blokh. ---------------- Kali ships worth flying left: Harbinger, Rokh. Only 2 left tux, you can make it!
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:33:00 - [44] Originally by: Mila Prestoc Originally by: Kunming This thread reminds me of the "BOOST Deimos" thread.. I'm anxiously waiting for Tuxford to be replaced! I'm anxiously waiting for everyone to shut up complaining about this ship when any problems it has, also causes every other ship the same problems... As Tux would say, "how about I nerf the blaster-Mega to make the Hyperion better?" How about you STFU Mr. Exclamation mark and leave the talking to the ppl who've been around since the begining and know what they are talking about. EVE PvP is in its worst state ever atm, ofc ppl are gonna whine and flame on the forums, you want them to go raid CCP HQ instead?! Non-cap consumers (drones, projectiles, missiles and passive tanks) have their golden time in KALI, while blasters, lasers and active tanks are shafted. If you deny this you are not interested in balance at all and only here to preserve the overpowered toys you recieved from Uncle Suxford.. Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
Mila Prestoc	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:40:00 - [45] Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 30/11/2006 21:44:22 Originally by: Kunming random smacktalk Thanks for proving my point mr I-Know-It-All... Topic is "boost the Hyperion" you just pointed out its not just hyperion that is affected Rev 2 is meant to be dealing with nos, which should help. I haven't seen anything in this topic that makes me think the Hyperion specifically (or blasters in the other topic) should be boosted. So maybe you should stop concentrating on boosting your ship and instead look at the wider picture to get that "balance" your wanting. Boosting one ship then and another then another doesn't do anything but avoid the problem. ------------------------- Originally by: "Lord Violent" EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid, catered to by devs as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
Xori Ruscuv Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:45:00 - [46] Originally by: Mila Prestoc Topic is "boost the Hyperion" you just pointed out its not just hyperion that is affected Nonetheless, the Hyperion IS affected. However many other ships/weapons are affected, people who will fly the Hyperion will complain about the Hyperion. So what? Why does every ***** thread need to be about everything? It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it? This IS my main! I just did a portrait swap...
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:53:00 - [47] Originally by: Mila Prestoc Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 30/11/2006 21:44:22 Originally by: Kunming random smacktalk Thanks for proving my point mr I-Know-It-All... Topic is "boost the Hyperion" you just pointed out its not just hyperion that is affected Rev 2 is meant to be dealing with nos, which should help. I haven't seen anything in this topic that makes me think the Hyperion specifically (or blasters in the other topic) should be boosted. So maybe you should stop concentrating on boosting your ship and instead look at the wider picture to get that "balance" your wanting. Boosting one ship then and another then another doesn't do anything but avoid the problem. I updated the topic just for you sweetie <3 and really the hyperion DOES need ot be boosted, but even then i would not be happy with it, because it needs to be CHANGED if it was somehow boosted in its current form (more powergrid or something like that) it would COMPLETELY make the megathron an obsolete ship, which wasnt supposed to be the point of tier 3 anyways... caldari got something totally different than any other bs they had before, minmatar got a very nice new ship... amarr got shafted as they always do, and gallente got a megathron with a couplet weaks and a model change.
Mila Prestoc	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:56:00 - [48] Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 30/11/2006 21:58:58 Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Originally by: Mila Prestoc Topic is "boost the Hyperion" you just pointed out its not just hyperion that is affected Nonetheless, the Hyperion IS affected. However many other ships/weapons are affected, people who will fly the Hyperion will complain about the Hyperion. So what? Why does every ***** thread need to be about everything? You still haven't got my point. Why boost everything around the problem instead of nerfing the problem? Amarr complained about laser damage on armour and people wanted stupid stuff like explosive crystals instead of doing the sensible thing and look at the cause of there damage problem, EANM. Edit: Nice title change... How about changing the Mega instead? I like the Hyperion, sure it can't do as high a damage as a gank-Mega but it can do great damage with a great tank. Oh and when a role is found for the Maelstrom besides "trap ship" i'll say its good, atm its a toy for throwing stupid tanking numbers around. ------------------------- Originally by: "Lord Violent" EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid, catered to by devs as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:58:00 - [49] Originally by: Mila Prestoc Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 30/11/2006 21:44:22 Originally by: Kunming random smacktalk Thanks for proving my point mr I-Know-It-All... (2)Topic is "boost the Hyperion" you just pointed out its not just hyperion that is affected Rev 2 is meant to be dealing with nos, which should help. I haven't seen anything in this topic that makes me think the Hyperion specifically (or blasters in the other topic) should be boosted. (1)So maybe you should stop concentrating on boosting your ship and instead look at the wider picture to get that "balance" your wanting. Boosting one ship then and another then another doesn't do anything but avoid the problem. (1)This char doesnt even have gallente BS lvl 1, and using big but hollow phrases like "looking at the wider picture" aint gonna help your arguement either. (2)Hyperion like all other blasterboats sux in KALI, just a bit better than amarr gun boats, its not all races and ships like you try to reflect this, its blasters and lasers. And this been going on for over 6 months now. Me and many others have put out numbers, facts, setups.. your hollow arguement hasnt put out anything but flamebait so far. You are more like an e-mail spammer rather than a forum ho! Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:01:00 - [50] Originally by: Mila Prestoc Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 30/11/2006 21:58:58 Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Originally by: Mila Prestoc Topic is "boost the Hyperion" you just pointed out its not just hyperion that is affected Nonetheless, the Hyperion IS affected. However many other ships/weapons are affected, people who will fly the Hyperion will complain about the Hyperion. So what? Why does every ***** thread need to be about everything? You still haven't got my point. Why boost everything around the problem instead of nerfing the problem? Amarr complained about laser damage on armour and people wanted stupid stuff like explosive crystals instead of doing the sensible thing and look at the cause of there damage problem, EANM. Edit: Nice title change... How about changing the Mega instead? I like the Hyperion, sure it can't do as high a damage as a gank-Mega but it can do great damage with a great tank. Oh and when a role is found for the Maelstrom besides "trap ship" i'll say its good, atm its a toy for throwing stupid tanking numbers around. ... right, usually when you introduce a new ship with a new role, you dont overhaul a ship thats been around since day 1 of the games creation just to accomodate this new ship... If they did that anyways I would be happy, at least I would finally have a choice other than nos dommy or suicide.

Anstice Frost Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:11:00 - [51] Keep everything as is, except make it fast. I'm talking like Machariel fast, 180m/sec or thereabouts. Quote: Originally by: Galaxion The Uneducated fly Amarr. Those in the know fly Minmatar. Nooblars fly Gallente. Cheaters fly Caldari. Rich people fly Faction.
DefJam101 Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:13:00 - [52] Originally by: Mila Prestoc Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 30/11/2006 21:44:22 Originally by: Kunming random smacktalk Thanks for proving my point mr I-Know-It-All... Topic is "boost the Hyperion" you just pointed out its not just hyperion that is affected Rev 2 is meant to be dealing with nos, which should help. I haven't seen anything in this topic that makes me think the Hyperion specifically (or blasters in the other topic) should be boosted. So maybe you should stop concentrating on boosting your ship and instead look at the wider picture to get that "balance" your wanting. Boosting one ship then and another then another doesn't do anything but avoid the problem. That sure as hell wasn't random smacktalk. He's right, EVE PVP is at an all time low, and I haven't even been here that long. It's literally impossible to kill ships bigger than you now, among many other problems. ***
maarud Einherjar Incorporated Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:14:00 - [53] I love the hype. Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member
Mila Prestoc	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:14:00 - [54] Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 30/11/2006 22:18:05 I'll discuss with you Nybbas since Kumming has gone off on another mad rant at me. Originally by: Nybbas ... right, usually when you introduce a new ship with a new role, you dont overhaul a ship thats been around since day 1 of the games creation just to accomodate this new ship... If they did that anyways I would be happy, at least I would finally have a choice other than nos dommy or suicide. Oh yeah I agree, i'm just saying that both ships are good, I think the Hyperion has more potential (especially with the introduction of rigs) as a blaster boat than the Mega hence i'd would rather see a change to the Mega. Abaddon wasn't exactly a new role ship for Amarr, Maelstrom while it doesn't replace any existing ship doesn't really do anything but produce pretty tanking numbers. Rohk is just too good. I like the Hyperion, Rev has introduced Rigs which you can do really nice things with but at same time you have to compramise somewhere else. Rigs when used well can really emphasise and solve some problems, but there are so many options it means for every good setup you'll get 10 bad ones. People were saying the Hyperion sucked and Mega was a better blastership, then people started producing videos showing two spec'd chars testing them and the Hyperion slaughtering the Mega. Originally by: DefJam101 That sure as hell wasn't random smacktalk. He's right, EVE PVP is at an all time low, and I haven't even been here that long. It's literally impossible to kill ships bigger than you now, among many other problems. Indeed, I love my cruisers, but it's got so much harder now. But then I don't really wanna go back to dual propulsion times either. ------------------------- Originally by: "Lord Violent" EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid, catered to by devs as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:21:00 - [55] Originally by: Mila Prestoc Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 30/11/2006 22:18:05 I'll discuss with you Nybbas since Kumming has gone off on another mad rant at me. Originally by: Nybbas ... right, usually when you introduce a new ship with a new role, you dont overhaul a ship thats been around since day 1 of the games creation just to accomodate this new ship... If they did that anyways I would be happy, at least I would finally have a choice other than nos dommy or suicide. Oh yeah I agree, i'm just saying that both ships are good, I think the Hyperion has more potential (especially with the introduction of rigs) as a blaster boat than the Mega hence i'd would rather see a change to the Mega. Abaddon wasn't exactly a new role ship for Amarr, Maelstrom while it doesn't replace any existing ship doesn't really do anything but produce pretty tanking numbers. Rohk is just too good. I like the Hyperion, Rev has introduced Rigs which you can do really nice things with but at same time you have to compramise somewhere else. Rigs when used well can really emphasise and solve some problems, but there are so many options it means for every good setup you'll get 10 bad ones. People were saying the Hyperion sucked and Mega was a better blastership, then people started producing videos showing two spec'd chars testing them and the Hyperion slaughtering the Mega. Originally by: DefJam101 That sure as hell wasn't random smacktalk. He's right, EVE PVP is at an all time low, and I haven't even been here that long. It's literally impossible to kill ships bigger than you now, among many other problems. Indeed, I love my cruisers, but it's got so much harder now. But then I don't really wanna go back to dual propulsion times either. what **es me off so much about the whole thing was we were promised a dedicated all out blaster boat, what we got is something that really isnt THAT MUCH different than a megathron... We were also told it was given that temporary armor rep bonus just for testing, and then not another thing was said about it, tux never asked peoples opinions or even got feedback on it, and of course it made it in through release. Tuxford lied to us, and it really **es me off.
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:34:00 - [56] Hyperion doesnt suck, it pwns, learn how to fit and use one. Or better yet, keep thinking its crap and dont use it or blasters in general, but please shut the hell up on the forums!!!! Don't give tux any more ideas.
Mila Prestoc	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:35:00 - [57] Originally by: Nybbas We were also told it was given that temporary armor rep bonus just for testing, and then not another thing was said about it, tux never asked peoples opinions or even got feedback on it, and of course it made it in through release. Tuxford lied to us, and it really **es me off. It's ok. Minnies were told that the Maelstrom was given a old bonus that wasn't good enough when it was on Caldari snipers so would be looked at and changed... At least the Hyperion was actually looked at and produced a good ship even if it does step on the Mega's toes. ------------------------- Originally by:** "Lord Violent" EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid, catered to by devs as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
Xori Ruscuv Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:42:00 - [58] So a noob walks into the eve-o forums: Originally by: Noob Hi I'm new here. Can someone tell me which race to fly? Xori Ruscuv decides to do a little forum whoring... Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Caldari. They're the only race with 3 battleships, TBH... It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it? This IS my main! I just did a portrait swap...
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:47:00 - [59] its sadly true...
Sabirah Industrial	Posted - 2006.11.30 23:27:00 - [60] Maybe it's just me, but i founded out the Hyperion to be a very nice Railboat, with 2 RCU i could fit 8 425mm (and i think i could fit also the t2 versions). On test server i used this set up for mission running: High Slots: 8 Named 425mm rails Medium Slots: 1 Target Painter 1 Tracking computer 3 Cap Rechargers Low Slots: 1 LAR t2 3 Hardners (mission specific) 2 RCU t2 Drone Bay: 4 Wasps The flying speed of the hyperion helped me to kite a little the rats, the dps was good, and the little frigates in the end got eaten by the drones. Of course i tested on L4 missions. (btw if you want to do L4 mission get a raven)



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