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missusblonde
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:44:00 -
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I always sorted my escrow by price, sometimes alphabetical, i cant find a way to do this with contracts, PLEASE tell me you can do it?
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Namelesz
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:45:00 -
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/signed
I would like to do this as well.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:45:00 -
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I was thinking that too. Was a bit tedious having to read through them all, when before I could have had them sorted.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:45:00 -
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Yeah, we've told them. Contracts v2 perhaps. :)
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:46:00 -
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And make them smaller font or better layout so you get more per page, its a joke as it is.
Really annoying system to use.
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Fliewatuet
Angelus dos Business
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:57:00 -
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We, as in The Community, told them long before today what points are wrong in the contracts system. I've used escrow to buy and sell stuff in large numbers since the beginning of the year, approx. 50 escrows to refresh more than once daily.
The new contracts system was supposed to be a major improvement. Yet, it just feels to me like the ones responsible for its development were just ppl who casually use escrow, perhaps look on it ones per week. They looked on it from that perspective, thinking about its simple but working design.
And thats how they put their ideas in a working solution. It looks all fancy, wow, theoretically its the work of a genius. But its not usable. And now I find myself in the position that i just want back the simple working design back. It had some flaws, but we are used to working around it.
I'm a major escrow reseller and mission runner. Both things are now far worse than before kali. Not because of major errors but because of the missing love for details. The contract developers surely haven't used the escrow all that much and the idea of wrecks wasn't thought of from someone who kills a hundred npcs in a mission and loots them after that. *sigh* Lets see how the oncomming criticism on forums will change either... nor nothing.
Regards,
Fliewatuet
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missusblonde
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: missusblonde on 29/11/2006 16:10:55
I hate the new contract system, it's a pain in the ass to use if you buy or sell more than a few escrows, personally i'd rather not use it atall, but i dont want to be forced into doing that. I liked the old escrow much better, it was far easier to use.
Font way to big, not enough items per page, i much prefered everything being on one page anyway, and wheres my ability to sort by price and alphabetically?
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Alex Under
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:11:00 -
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I so agree with this. The new contracts system for auctions really bites. You can't search all regions at once, you have to manually go through each region one at a time, and then you have to go through and browse every single page/item to TRY and find what you are looking for.
Problems:
1) Can't search all Regions at the same time
2) Can't sort by price/name
3) Can't search for particular items
To be honest I like the old Escrow better. There was no 'flash', just plain jane details/information. Now you're got this convoluted interface to try to make it all nice and shinny. Not needed in my opinion. |
Gone'Postal
Minmatar
LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:12:00 -
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 Originally by: missusblonde
I hate the new contract system, it's a pain in the ass to use if you buy or sell more than a few escrows, personally i'd rather not use it atall, but i dont want to be forced into doing that. I liked the old escrow much better, it was far easier to use.
/Signed.. To me looks like CCP went the way of vista with all the eye-candy for the contracts system. Looks better but hard to quick scan for good deals.
The man without a face...
The company without a clue.
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Efour
Amarr
Matari Shipworks
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:15:00 -
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YOu can search for particular items but it is bloody slow and annoying.
You cant just stick it alphabeticaly and "go shopping" because its just a mish mash of stuff with no order except the 4 default tabs which kinda suck.
Its half way there and i hope its unfinished it only needs full regional browsing ( probably taken out as intended tho) and a less annopying way to browse it.
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Lobster Man
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:15:00 -
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I miss escrow, bring it back plz :D
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Oveur
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:17:00 -
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We'll be increasing the results pr. page to 50 (hopefully 100 if it doesn't create too much load). You will also be able to sort each result page. Down the line you'll have search based on categories instead of just selecting an item.
Keep the feedback coming.
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EVE Online
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:25:00 -
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How about retrieving multiple regions at a time? Not all the regions, just the a few at a time, like 5 or so?
Because I said so...
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:29:00 -
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Make the information more concise, and clearly highlight the important information.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/11/2006 16:33:51
I think once sorting the stuff on selectable parameters is in, it will be great. Right now, what if I want to know what auctions finish within 30 minutes for example? Or find the cheapest Rohk in the Heimatar region?
So get those sorting/search options in there, and you have both a great looking GUI and functionality that surpasses the old escrow.
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Alex Under
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:33:00 -
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Definitely the Regional Browsing needs to be improved. It's a nice feature to be able to search one Region. But what about search all Regions at once? Or like 5 regions at a time like Murder One just suggested above?
We really need to be able to explore more then 1 region at a time. This makes it very time consuming. I don't want to spend half my time on EVE searching for things off Auction list. I want to spend my time doing other things like: PvP, Missions, Hauling, etc... |
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Oveur
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
Make the information more concise, and clearly highlight the important information.
Do you care to share what you feel is the important information. F*** me silly and call me Susan, but in EVE, everyone has their own opinion on what's important 
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EVE Online
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:35:00 -
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the player's description as title text and the items/[multiple items] in dark grey below, plz (other way 'round)
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Ayla Vanir
Caldari
InterSys
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Ayla Vanir on 29/11/2006 16:53:55
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Make the information more concise, and clearly highlight the important information.
Do you care to share what you feel is the important information. F*** me silly and call me Susan, but in EVE, everyone has their own opinion on what's important
Susan, I like the amount of info. I don't want less info than what is there now.
With that in mind, the improvements I'd like to see in order of importance are:
- column sort function.
- search by item.
- resizeable multi-item contract detail view window.
- search by individual item across the universe.
After that, it's up in the air, but those would be my top picks in order of priority.
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Fliewatuet
Angelus dos Business
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider
the player's description as title text and the items/[multiple items] in dark grey below, plz (other way 'round)
Almost all auctions will be about a specific item and only one. Since you can see the item name on those auctions anyway, noone will bother with a description anymore to only repeat the name of the item. :)
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Ed Gein
Lazy Town
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Posted - 2006.11.29 17:03:00 -
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Do you care to share what you feel is the important information. F*** me silly and call me Susan, but in EVE, everyone has their own opinion on what's important
rofl
On auctions, maybe starting bid in green, buyout in red
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Wild Rho
Amarr
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2006.11.29 17:05:00 -
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Just incase anyone didn't notice you can bring up more options that lets you filter contracts by item types, titles, and player name etc.
Not saying there's no room for improvement but I've had no problem finding stuff using these.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it.
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Allen Deckard
Gallente
WTB Supplies
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Posted - 2006.11.29 17:06:00 -
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My list currently
1. Sort by name
2. Sort by type (not necessarly exact item but item type) ie bpo or armor hardner ect
3. Look at all regions at once.
Personally I think limiting it to one region at a time is going to further condense people. My reasoning is I tend to look in my current region then in maybe 1 other and the other is what I consider to be the most populated to get the most results. I see this as regions that done have high population being neglected forcing these peeps to move their goods to populated areas. The old escrow system showed all regions which was one way for people in outlying areas to "feel" connected to hubs at least a little.
My reasoning for name and price sort is simply to be able to "browse" the stuff. Alot of the time I dont "need" anything but am just lookin for deals on anything.
Anyway they basics of the system are good just needs tweeked.
OH and lastly move it back to the right side in the station that bounty button is a waste of space. Barely anyone uses it or cares about it.
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David Robert
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Posted - 2006.11.29 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Allen Deckard
My list currently
blabla
OH and lastly move it back to the right side in the station that bounty button is a waste of space. Barely anyone uses it or cares about it.
Kinda hard to open up contract system in space if the button is only in station. Some of us actually undock to play the game. Thank god I only had to do that once so far.
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Dumus
Silver Service
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Posted - 2006.11.29 17:19:00 -
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Dear Sir,
Please alow us to be able to serch for a particular module. For instance I would love it if I could type in a search box "Dread Guristas cruise missile launcher" and it return a result for all regions. This follows nicley when fitting a ship and your short on CPU or whatever and do a comparison but find it would be a faction/officer module that would alow you to fit.
As I see it this system you have implemented is going to simply cause people to all travel to jita and put thier wares on there. If we had a search feature this would to some extent negate that.
As it stands now it simply takes too long to find the thing your looking for. Whilst simply browsing/window shopping is well catered for the way it is now, if you want a specific item your outa luck, just keep serching.
I hope this helps with the feedback.
-Dumus-
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Nemon v3
Dark and Light inc.
D-L
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Posted - 2006.11.29 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Make the information more concise, and clearly highlight the important information.
Do you care to share what you feel is the important information. F*** me silly and call me Susan, but in EVE, everyone has their own opinion on what's important
Hello,
here is my suggestions for escrow.
I was playing alot with it today, and basicly geting information out of it is very hard. It's really hard to for example to find CARRIER - let's say "Thanathos".
In "pre-kali" patch, that was like 4-5 sec work, sort out by price, and go around price range you need, and there it was.
I am not saying I know the better way to do it, but this what we have now is really time wasting. I need to "visit" each region to check for what I need.
I also had idea before escrow (contract) we have now. Contracts should have some additional color, for example like on killboards, you know "yellow" is battle ships even before you read it - "purple" is capital ship "green" can for example be a BPO TECH 1 - "blue" BPO TECH 2 - BPO's that are copies "orange" etc etc.
So by looking colors only, witout any reading you can really go fast over alot of informations.
Colors are way easy to learn (And put them in some kind of order) then actually reading each contract with informations etc.
So, my suggestions is use "visual" features to narow down the search, human brain can process this things very fast, so why dont you use it?
N.
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Kharakan
Amarr
New World Disorders
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Posted - 2006.11.29 17:41:00 -
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I have a question!
Why-o-why can we only search one region at a time? Jita's too concentrated already, now everyone'll just put all their stuff in jita so everyone sees it.
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain (to Dark Shikari)
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Ghitza
Backup Squad
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Posted - 2006.11.29 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
And make them smaller font or better layout so you get more per page, its a joke as it is.
Really annoying system to use.
What he said. We need to sort those contracts ffs!
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2006.11.29 18:11:00 -
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Add Sort facility by every column please.
Add more filters. One to display only "Item Exchange" contracts that are basically just sales for cash. At least add a filter that hides "Want to buy" contracts from sales ("Exchange") contracts.
Widen drop-down menus so that all selected text is correctly displayed. Viewing another region truncates the region name at present.
Allow players to determine column widths.
Allow alternate views - e.g. simple list view (data in cells).
Allow simultaneous region search for specific items. Returns results like:-
1 item in Lonetrek (view)
5 items in The Forge (view)
etc
More as I think of/ encounter them. 
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
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bullmax
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Posted - 2006.11.29 18:27:00 -
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At least , u could set the item's price range that u want to see.
Is there any market/trading skill that could expand the region u could check?
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