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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:15:00 -
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i had 35-45 fps before kali ... and now i got 12fps... could we have some kinda feature to turn off starmap , it makes me lagg. i know there are many people with that issue
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Kate Darieux
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:44:00 -
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I have the same problem.
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El Bunny
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:53:00 -
[3]
I have a serious framedrop aswell.
Used to have 170fps in warp, now I barely get 80fps.
Some/most combat missions are *way* too sluggish now.
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:55:00 -
[4]
170.. 80.. pfff
as someone said.. anytring above 25 fps doesnt matter
you got over 30, that is fast and smooth, be happy
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MailFan
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:56:00 -
[5]
Just wanted to jump on the bandwagon. Same problem here.
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Serianant
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Posted - 2006.11.29 17:04:00 -
[6]
Yea I get the same aswell, now I get like 10fps out of station! :'(
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Ghitza
Backup Squad
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Posted - 2006.11.29 18:15:00 -
[7]
 Originally by: Emma Green
i had 35-45 fps before kali ... and now i got 12fps... could we have some kinda feature to turn off starmap , it makes me lagg. i know there are many people with that issue
Same here.
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.29 18:17:00 -
[8]
i wish CCP would make a ON/OFF option for this
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MailFan
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.29 20:00:00 -
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I can't imagine we're the only one experiencing this. Aren't others noticing, or don't they care?
EVE used to be playable at low fps. But now im getting around 10 which, though still playable, starts to become irritating.
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.30 12:09:00 -
[10]
hope ccp thinks to those people who dont have top of the line computers
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Cygnus80
Gallente
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.30 12:45:00 -
[11]
had 20-25 fps pre kali now getting 5-10.
Still playable but getting major lag on warping and minor lag on opening chat windows, cargo holds in space and other assorted windows. |
Arokan Manturi
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.30 14:50:00 -
[12]
Same
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Cheunger
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.30 16:17:00 -
[13]
everything about this patch is ridiculous
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Fapos
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.11.30 20:11:00 -
[14]
Bumping this because the stars need to be removed, please please |
Dahak2150
HellBrothers Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.01 02:40:00 -
[15]
Bumpity.
I myself am having huge issues. My computer can take anywhere from 10-15 minutes to load a new system on some occassions. Something really slaughtered my FPS.
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Zeko Rena
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Posted - 2006.12.01 02:58:00 -
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Oh no, i was only getting 25-30 fps before on Kali, my pc is so old and poo, i havent been able to try EVE yet but will this weekend i bet ill have like 2fps :(
Haha, time to buy a new pc i guess, luickly got a laptop on the way woooo 
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Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2006.12.01 03:53:00 -
[17]
/signed /bump My FPS went down by 20%-30% Post Dragon, got about half of that back from hardware upgrades. I am not at what I would consider top of the line, but my 7900GT 512MB isn't BAD by any stretch of the imagination, IMHO. I have fast caching memory enabled to make use of my DDR3 card memory and have tried everything (within reason that makes any lick of sense) in the "boost your FPS" thread! Then comes Rev Chapt 1 and here we go again! Another 20%-30% drop in frame rate to what I was getting before the patch. I am now WORSE off after two MAJOR patches than I was BEFORE them!! This is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE CCP!!! This TWICE in a row in under 5 months. Large spawn missions and fleet combat are back down into the SINGLE DIGIT FPS for me. No one can convince me that it's NOT the client this time. Lots of Fanbois tried to tell me it was my machine last time. I never REALLY believed them, but you have to have an open mind in the world of system building and fixing, so I gave the Devs the benefit of the doubt. NOT this time! FIX this CCP, or I, and many like me, are OUTTA HERE! 
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Mooogie
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Posted - 2006.12.01 04:17:00 -
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Yeah, if the seamless map stars are the source of fps drops, then please, hit it with the nerf bat. Hit it HARD.
I'm gullible so I was really happy to see a quick note about "improved graphics optimizations" or whatever the news-speak was before the patch was released. Considering this game uses an inordinate amount of CPU compared to the GPU that it *should* be using... I was really hoping to see improved performance, graphically speaking.
Nope. 
Surely it's possible to work on that trinity graphics engine (isn't that what it's still called?) a bit to implement more hardware acceleration from the graphics card and not the CPU. Please?
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.01 12:34:00 -
[19]
please some DEV sign this thread so we would know that people are working on that problem .
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Jorryn Voone
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:07:00 -
[20]
/bump
I noticed the exact same thing when I logged in last night for the first time since the new patch. I used to push around 80 fps in low pop areas, around 50 in combat, over a 100 fps while warping, and around 200 sitting in a station.
Post patch I'm only getting around 50 fps per second in low pop with all my UI hidden. I haven't tried any combat yet, but around more populated areas my fps drops 35 to 40.
I know many might say, "hey you're getting over 30, be happy." Truth of the matter is there is a noticeable difference for anything under 60 fps. With my specs this is a little frustrating, especially when I run other games a lot better. I take care of my computer too, regularly cleaning out the registry and defragging the hard drive.
My Specs:
P4 3.6 HT
2 gigs of Kingston 400mhz DDR
Intel 915GAV Motherboard with 800 front side bus
BFG Geforce 7900 GTX OC 512mb PCIe.
CCP, please give us a response, even if it's just "we know we nerfed the fps, and it's not getting better." I just want to know if this is something I'll have to live with. But I hope not.
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Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:35:00 -
[21]
/bump /devs comments? Anyone? Hello??? *asks as a CCP customer service tumbleweed bounces by*
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Sinphulee Yurs
Minmatar
DarkVengeance
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:48:00 -
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Ive put in a petition on this Ive had a 30+ FPS drop while in space since the patch, its really quite a downer.
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Sirex007
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Sirex007 on 01/12/2006 15:56:38
Edited by: Sirex007 on 01/12/2006 15:56:05
what annoys me is that the map is buggy anyhow.
if you set it to flatten your left mose moves the map about on a 2d axis (as expected), but then come out of the map and go back in. - the left button now rotates the map in 3D, even though the "flatten" button is still enabled. you have to hit "unflatten" then "reflatten" again.
its because of this fancy unneeded animation they make the map flip about like an idiot and forgot to actually reenable to flatten mode when you reopen the map.
i put a petition in for it, hopefully it'll get fixed.
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Zenlock
Minmatar
Cronus Hunters Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.01 19:03:00 -
[24]
Yep, EVE is pretty much unplayable on my desktop now because of the ultra low FPS. Thank goodness I primarily use a gaming laptop now.
At least one of my corpmates has the same problem. Thus, I too, vote for the on/off starmap integration option if it is indeed the cause.
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Feral Karkassia
Minmatar
Singularity Trafficers
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Posted - 2006.12.01 19:51:00 -
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Wierd--mine actually seems better. 
Hope this gets fixed for you guys though, lag in combat ftl.
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Jorryn Voone
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Posted - 2006.12.02 00:43:00 -
[26]
Well, just went into some high pop areas.. and my FPS drops down below 20. I saw two people fight outside a jump gate and it was down to 12.5 fps.
Please CCP you gotta help a brother out, I love this game, but I have a hard time dealing with such poor performance for the specs I have.
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Krxon Blade
Caldari
Bigg's Loyal Knight's
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Posted - 2006.12.02 00:52:00 -
[27]
Signed!
Was it starmap or wreck, but my PC performance dropped rapidly
AMD 64 3500+
2 gig ram
nVidia 7600 GT
sata II hdd
playing @ 1280x960 windowed
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Ryker Blade
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:37:00 -
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i went from averaging 100 flying around to high 60's. most of the other peeps in my corp havent noticed anything though. it might be related to running advanced options like antialiasing and ansiotropic filtering. dunno though.
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Jorryn Voone
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Posted - 2006.12.02 08:30:00 -
[29]
I've tried turning all the video settings to default but I still have the problem. Going to keep bumping till we get an answer.
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MailFan
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.02 12:37:00 -
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Tried to reinstall EVE and I did a 3dmark run because I was afraid something might be wrong with my hardware. Turned out I got more 3dmarks than I ever had but EVE's maximum frame rate just dropped pretty steeply. It does seem to average almost the same fps as before, but the maximum fps is way lower. So now when Im just hanging in space I got 40-50fps but while fighting it can drop to 15 or 10fps.
I wish you could turn of the new Stars in the background. It's the only thing added as far as I can tell.
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:26:00 -
[31]
Devs sayd that their working on that FPS problem. Hope they can fix it in the next patch
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Gonada
Gallente
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:31:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Sylthi
/signed /bump My FPS went down by 20%-30% Post Dragon, got about half of that back from hardware upgrades. I am not at what I would consider top of the line, but my 7900GT 512MB isn't BAD by any stretch of the imagination, IMHO. I have fast caching memory enabled to make use of my DDR3 card memory and have tried everything (within reason that makes any lick of sense) in the "boost your FPS" thread! Then comes Rev Chapt 1 and here we go again! Another 20%-30% drop in frame rate to what I was getting before the patch. I am now WORSE off after two MAJOR patches than I was BEFORE them!! This is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE CCP!!! This TWICE in a row in under 5 months. Large spawn missions and fleet combat are back down into the SINGLE DIGIT FPS for me. No one can convince me that it's NOT the client this time. Lots of Fanbois tried to tell me it was my machine last time. I never REALLY believed them, but you have to have an open mind in the world of system building and fixing, so I gave the Devs the benefit of the doubt. NOT this time! FIX this CCP, or I, and many like me, are OUTTA HERE!
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Jorryn Voone
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Posted - 2006.12.02 18:04:00 -
[33]
/bump
Still waiting for an answer.
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.03 07:14:00 -
[34]
/bump
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Rootax
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Posted - 2006.12.03 10:40:00 -
[35]
Same problem here...
P4 3.6
X800xt
ram : 2go
Changing resolution or details doesn't improve performance 
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Lex Bloodfield
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Posted - 2006.12.03 10:47:00 -
[36]
Ive tried everything from rolling back drivers to reinstalling Eve, I even bought and returned 3 video cards all with the same issue. I hope the Dec, 5th patch has the fix.
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.04 10:25:00 -
[37]
nothing in the patch notes jet :( about this FPS problem...
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Module Crypto
Caldari
Massive Brain Damage
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Posted - 2006.12.04 10:32:00 -
[38]
Also i have noticed that opening map in the middle of the jump will freeze map and brake the icons of gates, belts stations in space.
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Jorryn Voone
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:39:00 -
[39]
/bump
still waiting for a dev to sign this one
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Ask Jeeves
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Posted - 2006.12.04 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: Ask Jeeves on 04/12/2006 22:07:46
Edited by: Ask Jeeves on 04/12/2006 22:06:49
im also in the same boat. before this patch i was complaining about low fps on my new pc, but now it's much worse. before i would hardly ever drop below 60 unless I was doing a mission or in a fight (and then i would be crawling around at 5-30 fps), but now ill be just undocking from a station and be below 40 at times. also people who say 30fps is totaly smooth and your eye's cant detect it are totaly wrong. If my pc is at 30 fps then it feels very sluggish and crappy, totaly unsmooth in every way. maybe thats just some computers which feel like that though..
theres nothing wrong with my pc though, for a start it beats all the benchmarks ive seen for half life lost coast stress test with same resolution and settings turned on.
core 2 duo e6600
gigabyte ds3
7600gt
2 gig corsair ddr2
x-fi extreme music
ocz 700w psu
sata2 western digital
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d4rk s1de
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.04 23:46:00 -
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Same.
I'm sure the devs are on it though. The best thing to do i would have thought, is like some others have said, implement an on/off switch.
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Ddredar
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Posted - 2006.12.05 04:08:00 -
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I run an Athlon 2700+ with 1.5gig ram and a Geforce 6600GT vid card. I have always gotten between 25 to 60 FPS as a standard. I noticed only a 2 to 3 FPS drop because of the patch. And I don't think the map in the background is the only thing to blame for the FPS drop. If you notice, everything looks slightly different. The lightings a brighter, and the colors are a little different. If you think about it, everything on the screen is made up of little colored dots to make the picture. Changing a few thousand of the to white is not going to drag the system down that much. There has got to me more to it. But for those of you who belive that the map background is the ONLY thing causeing your FPS drop, I to ask the DEVs to add an OFF option for the map.
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BustyBounty
Caldari
Vengeance of the Fallen
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 08:58:00 -
[43]
Edited by: BustyBounty on 05/12/2006 08:58:44
i used to get 70-80fps in space now i only get 30-40 and in a 30man gang it goes as low as 20 now :|
amd64 3200
1gb ram
x800
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LordAntn
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Posted - 2006.12.05 09:36:00 -
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Yeah. Have same problem here. I ran eve with same specs a year ago and it ran perfectly.
Now the fps drops to 15-20 in combat.
Amd Athlon 2500+@3200+
1Gb Ram
Gf6600gt
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.05 12:33:00 -
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nothing in patchnotes for todays patch ... hope they fix it ... but i think they dont.
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:50:00 -
[46]
fps is still ****** up (after the patch)
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Asoc
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:08:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Emma Green
fps is still ****** up (after the patch)
Heh, it removes the censor stars when you quote ;-). No FPS gain here either, the depth buffer problems are also still there.
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MailFan
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.05 21:17:00 -
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The next patch will be performance orientated. Though it doesn't say clientside or serverside.
/me crosses fingers
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Kirov VIII
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Posted - 2006.12.05 21:25:00 -
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Yes, remove this useless animation ... It's fun the first time but after ...
You lost time for set new destination and if you push on ctrl + scroll (or other). You PC lag and you go to starmap ... I have almost lost a ship because that !!!
You try to lock and scroll down and you go on the starmap ... With this great animation, you lost precious second and you can't make something for stop that ... You wait for close (lag) and control again your ship.
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Chade Malloy
Anarchy Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kirov VIII
Yes, remove this useless animation ... It's fun the first time but after ...
You lost time for set new destination and if you push on ctrl + scroll (or other). You PC lag and you go to starmap ... I have almost lost a ship because that !!!
You try to lock and scroll down and you go on the starmap ... With this great animation, you lost precious second and you can't make something for stop that ... You wait for close (lag) and control again your ship.
There is an option in the map menue where you can set the animation from normal to fast to instant
However, got the same fps problems since revelations too, my framerate went down by about 50%. Had about 70-80 fps outside station pre revelations, and now its about 30-40.
To anyone who thinks that anything over 30fps would not be noticeable: thats in perfect conditions, framerate drops MUCH lower in combat/asteroid fields. in a standard mission with a few enemies that are fireing at me i have about 15-20fps at best.
Imho its caused by all those stars in the background (from the map) plz give an option to turn them off!
Any word from the Devs?
Originally by: Oveur
Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
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Asoc
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:34:00 -
[51]
Sort of, but at least it acknowledges performance problems:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=438397
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Jorryn Voone
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Posted - 2006.12.06 16:29:00 -
[52]
/bump again still would like a dev reply on this issue.
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Hanna Svelasdottir
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Posted - 2006.12.06 17:01:00 -
[53]
Ah, I remember the good 'ol days when there was actually no lag at all, no fps or anything.
It was quite enjoyable!
This was 1 year 4 months ago, or so :)
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Fapos
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.12.06 18:20:00 -
[54]
Bring back Dragon ;_;
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:26:00 -
[55]
still no information about this subject ... please CCP tell us something
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Chade Malloy
Anarchy Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.11 20:55:00 -
[56]
Friendly bump, can we have w0rd from a Dev here? Playing just doenst make as much fun now as b4 the patch.
Originally by: Oveur
Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
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Xijaro
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.12 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Xijaro on 12/12/2006 15:37:15
Same here after Revelations.
AGP 6600GT, P4 2.40, 1Gb RAM, P4P800SE motherboard:
15-20fps in combat, 1-2fps in fleet battles.. absolutely unplayable 
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JenTos
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Posted - 2006.12.12 16:22:00 -
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I have a lower end pc:
Athlon xp 2400,
ATI Radeon X700PRO
1 gig ram (400mhz dual channel)
FPS drop of 40%, except in stations, I get over 100 in station.
Fleet battles unplayable.
Ratting in belts ~17-20 fps, used to be 30+ or more, never bothered, never had any reason to check, it was always smooth.
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Xijaro
REUNI0N
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Posted - 2006.12.12 17:59:00 -
[59]
Installed April's edition of DX 9.0c (instead of October's) û problem still here..
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Allaera
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:51:00 -
[60]
Same problem. Honestly with the new contracts system (which they did improve significantly with the "simple view" option), the poor fps, I'm not really happy playing the game anymore. I'm just logging in to sell stuff, and waiting for some word on stability and graphic lag fixes.
Btw, I'm posting this while waiting for my character to log in, as for the 3rd time I've gotten stuck entering station. I know this is separate, but I'm so unhappy with the game right now I just have to complain. Looking foward to Vanguard if this game doesn't improve within a reasonable timeframe. Christmas seems reasonable.
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Chade Malloy
Anarchy Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:56:00 -
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Dang, still nothing in the patchnotes :( doesnŠt seem they care for this particular problem, sooo....off to the yarrdware-store 
Honestly, are there only a few ones that get this massive client performance loss?
Sys spec: Athlon64 3000, 1 gig ram, Nvidia GF 6600 NX, Win XP
Had no problems whatsoever b4 the patch, and good framerates even in combat.
Originally by: Oveur
Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
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Arokan Manturi
Sanctioned.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:04:00 -
[62]
Reinstall eve and clear cache settings. Reinstall directx. Worked for me.
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Awox
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:57:00 -
[63]
star map is pretty, but a 2d non-animated one would be perfect for a quick map check during pvp ops and would be very easy to do surely?
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Volcom V
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.13 02:23:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Awox
star map is pretty, but a 2d non-animated one would be perfect for a quick map check during pvp ops and would be very easy to do surely?
There is one in the map options. "Flatten Map" at the top of the window I believe.
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Xijaro
REUNI0N
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Posted - 2006.12.13 07:32:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Arokan Manturi
Reinstall eve and clear cache settings. Reinstall directx. Worked for me.
Installing different versions of DX (April, August, October) and forceware (84.21, 93.71) not helped me.
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MailFan
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.13 08:04:00 -
[66]
Reinstalled EVE and tried different display drivers. Didn't work for me either. And I did remove the old ones propperly.
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.13 12:30:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Emma Green on 13/12/2006 12:31:52
iv tried everything and still it laggs like hell ... this really need fixing guys... they said todays patch is performance related ut i cant see almost anything related to perfermans on the patch notes ... but lets hope for the best
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Chade Malloy
Anarchy Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.13 15:57:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Chade Malloy on 13/12/2006 16:00:27
Well, after the patch i have witnessed a slight increase in the framerate, i had ~ 35fps (right outside station) pre patch, now its about 45fps, and that is noticeable.
However, its still far from my usual 60-70fps (again right outside station), so i think the seamless map still needs some more love, optimisation-wise.
Maybe only display the map-starfield in the background when the map is actually activated? I know, there would prolly be some loading hickups then, but i would prefer occasional loading lag to constant bad framerate.
Originally by: Oveur
Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
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Emma Green
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:06:00 -
[69]
i still hope for more graphic options ...
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Ghitza
Backup Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:24:00 -
[70]
Im really displased with this performance drop. We put EVERYTHING off what we can to have 2-3 more FPS in fleet combat and they just... no words for that :( And i dont have crapy computer its CCP fault.
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Chade Malloy
Anarchy Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.14 00:57:00 -
[71]
Cmon dear Devs, throw us a bone...or at least a comment about this matter 
Originally by: Oveur
Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
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Fapos
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.12.30 20:53:00 -
[72]
This still needs addressing, implement an option to disable it or something. |
d4rk s1de
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.30 20:56:00 -
[73]
Edited by: d4rk s1de on 30/12/2006 20:56:09
Fps really suffered because of this. Don't get me wrong, it's nice and all, but i preffer better fps than 'oooooh'
plz ccp make an option to disable it. TY!
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WildAmishRose
Caldari
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.30 22:15:00 -
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I have the following:
P4 @ 4.23 GHZ
1gig pc4200
7800gtx
pre-revelations, the game ran very, very smoothly, but the addition of the background star field (this is not the full star map I'm talking about, this is the background in the normal game window which displays all of the solar systems as points) my framerate dropped substantially.
It is especially noticable in warp, most likely because it's forcing the renderer to work with multiple transparent, overlapping layers.
While it is a very cool feature to see a representation of our eve universe in the background during normal play, an on/off toggle for those of us who are concerned with getting a good framerate (I'd much prefer a more smooth framerate to seeing an inordinate number of rendered points) over eye candy. I'd much rather turn on some type of antialiasing or anisotropic filtering, than have the background starmap present.
Prior to revelations, I was able to do this, post revelations, enabling FSAA or Anisotropic filtering reduces the framerate by far too much.
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