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Falzone
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Posted - 2003.11.15 05:35:00 -
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I was feeling bored tonight sitting in Aurohunen doing nothing and decided to challenge Ioctl to a 1 on 1 fight (No jamming) to Stucture. He Accepted and went to a mid space bm he said he made he ganged me and i warped to him upon getting there he proceeded to Target jam and warp scramble me and his buggy in a megathron warped in and they dtarted pounding me. In the end i died and yes it was a horribly stupid way to die. I had talked with him before and he seemed to be an honorable guy so i believed him that he would fight 1 on 1 to structure even if he was winning or losing i would have stopped at stucture if i had been winning but he stabbed me in the back. As many of you guys have probably read I am to trusting a person and that is obiously shown here but it is still striking a low blow. Guess he didn't have any honor after all. Call me a whiner i'm sure someone will but i can live with the loss of my ship and implants oh wellsee you in hell Ioctl
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.11.15 06:10:00 -
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Edited by: ProphetGuru on 15/11/2003 06:12:27
good thing u stole so many ships, at the rate you going thru em.
ps
i know insurance makes ship loss a joke... i just messin with ya
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2003.11.15 07:27:00 -
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A good pirate is a dead pirate, and it's even better if his death gets him to whine.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.15 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: drunkenmaster on 15/11/2003 10:25:02
well, that's a penis in the eye for all the people who complain that pirates will never accept a 1v1, and are cowards, etc.
Unlucky, Falzone.
And up until today, I thought CoC were the sort of guys that would keep their word.
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Booky
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Posted - 2003.11.15 10:34:00 -
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Why should Hunters keep thier word? We all know that pirats don't hold to thiers.
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XpoHoc
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Posted - 2003.11.15 10:54:00 -
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It's not about your profession, it's about your character.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.15 10:56:00 -
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We don't expect anyone to keep their word, we are lied to every time we do our work. But personally, I would have made the exception for CoC too.
so, kudos for being sneaky, and shame on you for being sneaky.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2003.11.15 10:58:00 -
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Why should Hunters keep thier word? We all know that pirats don't hold to thiers.
Perhaps because hunters are supposed to be the good guys and good guys always keep their word, right ?
Spawn of the Devil
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.15 12:00:00 -
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I agree with drunkenmaster, I also would have trusted CoC to keep their word and honour.
Bit of a dissapointment really
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.11.15 12:29:00 -
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Well, i dont really know what to say about this.
Im asked to fight 1v1 all the time by pirates, i never will, i dont trust you guys.
And im sure you have a 7mill bounty on your head Falzone.
He took his chance it seems.
Personally im surprised you accepted the invitation.
Also, im sure you have been a vey bad boy lately if the things u have done are true .
think it was xpohoc that gave a good point though, no matter the way we wish to play EVE, we are all players, and should all get on.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.11.15 12:29:00 -
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Heh, I wonder if those guys that kept "challenging" me to duels yesterday night in local have read this. Maybe they understand now.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.15 12:58:00 -
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darth, I think we all do get along fine actually. There are some exceptions whom I wouldn't put in a room together, but in general I think were all decent.
Its just that within Space Invaders everyone has/had mad respect for Cult, which I'm fairly sure is a bit dented now.
I guess it was just a complete surprise for some.
naughty naughty good guys!
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2003.11.15 13:06:00 -
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Quote:
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Why should Hunters keep thier word? We all know that pirats don't hold to thiers.
Perhaps because hunters are supposed to be the good guys and good guys always keep their word, right ?
And if Pirates are the bad guys and bad guys always lie, then the hunter knew that, and knew the fight wasn't to structure but to death? 
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.15 13:13:00 -
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no, because it was obvious that Falzone had a carebear moment.
Its embarassing and I would appreciate it if this information would be kept between us all, some of the best pirates suddenly have the urge to go 1 vs 1 with a person, or a roid. 
It usually passes in a flash.
I think it has to do with PD, have you seen what it does to Gallente?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.15 14:23:00 -
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Well Falzone, you had a big bounty, placed (I presume) by some of the people whose time and effort you robbed when you stole from your former corp before fleeing to the Space Invaders.
I definately recall seeing your face on the big wanted screens last night. Now I guess it won't be there, will be a little satisfaction perhaps for the victims of your corp-theft back stabbing, non?
And on the matter of 1on1 duels and such, I imagine Cult had some payback to deliver in any case. It wasn't that long ago that another short-term Space Invader member agreed one-on-one terms with the Cult and then broke the agreement (when he was losing) to run like a yellow dog from the scene of battle.
So Space Invaders certainly owed Cult a battleship kill ...
On the morality of good guys vs bad guys, I think the; "good guys must always tell the truth" thing is trite. Honourable people must keep their word in honourable company yes.
But lets face it, Space Invader oaths are a synonym for a con-artists line in scam.
If its not whacking clueless victims after they payed the ransom, giving sanctuary to sleezeballs like your good self or yes, breaking the terms of one and one duels then sheesh, not sure what else you chaps have time to get a reputation for?
And on the matter of the war between the NVA and Biomass alliance (including space invaders); really, you need to get a clue.
Your corporation is sworn to the destruction of an alliance of 20+ member corps and several hundred players who have known nothing but conflict and battle for the better part of the past 3 months.
We are literally fighting for our lives and our liberty and you guys are lined up with the fellows in pressed uniforms and jackboots...
Given the chance Falzone, I would shoot you in the back of the head while you were sleeping with a smile on my face and a clear conscience.
For you to even talk about "honour" is to demean the word to meaningless atonal farce.
PS
(all IC hatred ... ooc don't take it personally hun)
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.11.15 14:53:00 -
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i do agree lianhaun.
But maybe if u seem some of the smack i get in local from pirates, u would have an other impression.
Some of it is good fun, but i had to petition last night, i wont name players, but it wasnt on.
darth solo and his goon squad is all good laugh, but *****s and *******, no thanks.
BTW, i dont speak in local.
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Davian Windspear
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Posted - 2003.11.15 15:08:00 -
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A quick lesson in honour.
Tis true that the good people should be honourable, but when faced with evil, sometimes you must use its methods against them. This is acceptable and you lose no honour, since honour cannot be lost against a dishonourable person.
The Murderous pirate blackbeard was killed with a similar method, Captain maynard ordered his men to hide when approaching Blackbeards ship, then as blackbeard boarded to take the prize they jumped out and killed the pirates. Taking blackbeards head and slinging it under the bowsprit of his sloop, he sailed home victorious to a heros welcome.
Im sure if blackbeard could have posted he would have cried foul. But it pales in comparison with his own dishonarable tactics...
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2003.11.15 15:16:00 -
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/me hands Falzone a tissue
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.11.15 17:42:00 -
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Jade ur annoying...stop hijacking threads...what does this have to do with this:
And on the matter of the war between the NVA and Biomass alliance (including space invaders); really, you need to get a clue.
Your corporation is sworn to the destruction of an alliance of 20+ member corps and several hundred players who have known nothing but conflict and battle for the better part of the past 3 months.
We are literally fighting for our lives and our liberty and you guys are lined up with the fellows in pressed uniforms and jackboots...
??????????????????????? 
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Sally
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Posted - 2003.11.15 17:49:00 -
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CoC are cowards. All respect gone.
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2003.11.15 18:19:00 -
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A quick lesson in honour.
Tis true that the good people should be honourable, but when faced with evil, sometimes you must use its methods against them. This is acceptable and you lose no honour, since honour cannot be lost against a dishonourable person.
The Murderous pirate blackbeard was killed with a similar method, Captain maynard ordered his men to hide when approaching Blackbeards ship, then as blackbeard boarded to take the prize they jumped out and killed the pirates. Taking blackbeards head and slinging it under the bowsprit of his sloop, he sailed home victorious to a heros welcome.
Im sure if blackbeard could have posted he would have cried foul. But it pales in comparison with his own dishonarable tactics...
soemone stealing that much is not a good guy
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2003.11.15 18:27:00 -
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I had talked with him before and he seemed to be an honorable guy so i believed him that he would fight 1 on 1 to structure even if he was winning or losing i would have stopped at stucture if i had been winning but he stabbed me in the back. As many of you guys have probably read I am to trusting a person and that is obiously shown here but it is still striking a low blow. Guess he didn't have any honor after all. -Falzone
OK, Falzone, new rule: You may never use the these words (trust & honor) in a sentence EVER, EVER again. It is very offensive to the people that actually know the meaning and value its concepts.
F-ing corp thief.
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2003.11.15 18:33:00 -
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We do not fight you in what you call (what a joke btw) honourable ways because you guys don't deserve it.
To put it in a way you're more used to, we fight smart. And we don't give a dime if you don't like it.
time to change your ticker to SPCB maybe ?
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Toulak
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Posted - 2003.11.15 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Toulak on 15/11/2003 18:45:29
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well, that's a peni.s in the eye for all the people who complain
ROFLMAO, classic mate. 
Edit - Ok your "pen1s" wasnt filtered out Drunken, but it was in my quote?!?!
Stupid filter
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.15 19:09:00 -
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Jade ur annoying...stop hijacking threads...what does this have to do with this:
Well Negotiator since you asked;
a) Cult of Cthulhu are NVA
b) Falzone is SPVD (part of biomass)
c) NVA is at war with Biomass Dork Empire
d) I do PR for NVA.
e) Falzon is trying to make mileage out of a suposedly "dishonourable" act (amazing hypocrisy that represents)
f) Cult were simply fighting the good fight against our war enemies.
Hence my involvement and desire to make a comment.
The fact that I despise Falzone as a corp thief and despise SPVD for giving him a home is an added bonus.
So thats my reason.
Now my question.
Who the hell made you the thread-relevence patroller muppet-brain?
Clearly who haven't got a clue.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2003.11.15 19:10:00 -
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Well I pick my fights really carefully, I do think I can trust some eve players to fight honestly, I try to but there have been incidents that I've tried to gank someone (sometimes succeded) but hey, this is OUR way of making a living. Lying, cheating, stealing - it's a huge part of our livelyhood, we accept this and live by it.
Let me ask you this then? Are you pirate hunters really ready to sink to OUR level of cheating and lying in order to achieve your goals? If so then you are no better then the people you are trying to hunt.
I've tried to fight fair and I've had alot of fun doing so, sometimes losing, somtimes winning. But the fact is that in EVE....... trust noone.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.11.15 19:17:00 -
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sigh...Dear Jade, ur not doing PR...ur just *****ing cuz ur realy realy bored....
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.15 19:19:00 -
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Negotiator ...
well, since you are the enemy m'dear, you would say that wouldn't you?
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2003.11.15 19:38:00 -
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HI All
No Disrespect but I think respect has been mistaken for Honour! We are at war and as Fal rightly says we fight smart. We have to as we are only 4 err I mean 5 now!! Honour has no place on the field of combat. It is a romantic notion at best.
One can have respect for ones foes indeed. Io is new to the Cult and has already proven his worth. He is hmmmm enthusiastic :) I think this Post falzone is a bit of a pot kettle hue comparison! Respect your foes yes. Trust them? Not on your life :)
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
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Falzone
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Posted - 2003.11.15 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Falzone on 15/11/2003 20:28:55
Those of you that call me a thief you are correct and i don't deny that what i did was backstabbing. But this was supposed to be a 1 v 1 fight. Does 2 wrongs make a right? To the CoC guys we at SI did have great respect for your skill honestly when I challenged Ioctl to the fight i figured he would win but it sounded like fun. Guess it was fun(for him) but all those who say we are dishonorable look at the situation if i was dishonorable in in this fight i would have have my own friends standing by to warp and and help yet i didn't. I may be a corp theif but i was honorable on this occasion and kept my word to the 1 v 1 fight as agreed.
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2003.11.15 20:45:00 -
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Space Carebears.
We're at war, you were killed, get over it.
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2003.11.15 20:45:00 -
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Youll have to pardon me if I dont feel too much pity for you since my last trip through Aurahonen I was welcomed by 4 or your "pack". 3 of your BS locked me down and destroyed me without a word...most notabley Kasha. I was in a big bad ol Thorax on a mining run so I was a dangerous threat. For pirates and groups of your ilk it is all about deception, surprise, and yes dare I say it, exploit. Just because you were outwitted doesnt make it any worse.
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Sally
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Posted - 2003.11.15 23:44:00 -
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Space Carebears.
We're at war, you were killed, get over it.
Yeah, that's true. I would have done the same.
Nevertheless you and your CoC friends turned out to be skillless suckers who can't kill **** alone, kill SI Blackbirds via CTD and brag about it on the forums, file cheap whining exploit petitions and use (common among NVA corps) silly game names. Furthermore you have joined the most unskilled regional alliance in the universe, supporting a stupid anti-pirate forum PR campaign, I think you fit perfectly well there.
Your cheap trick was known among a few SI, as you tried to do it on several occasions, too bad Falzone didn't know it, but thanks to him, nobody will care about duel conditions against you, cause nobody is going to duel you anylonger.
In case you didn't get Falzone's point, try to read his posts harder and or maybe even try to imagine how fast one of you would post about SI not keeping their word if you would be the guy who got target/warp jammed.
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Desiato
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Posted - 2003.11.16 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: Desiato on 16/11/2003 21:39:16
Edited by: Desiato on 16/11/2003 02:09:47
What do you expect, Ioctl has shown a total lack of honour in the past. He has taken out a number of corp ships, I wouldn't trust him in the slightest.
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2003.11.16 02:19:00 -
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Poor Falzone... you cheat for billions and whine about beeing cheated? Well sometimes god gives the guilty a swift punishment...
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2003.11.16 02:51:00 -
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Nevertheless you and your CoC friends turned out to be skillless suckers who can't kill **** alone, kill SI Blackbirds via CTD and brag about it on the forums
indeed, that's what we are and what we do...
that's also why we felt it'd be needed to post about that particular kill and brag about it. oh wait, you guys did that to whine about it. Maybe you were being ironical ?
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file cheap whining exploit petitions
or maybe you're the one, Molly, using cheap exploits, and we report it so that
1) devs know that X exploit exist, since your pretty creative when it comes to thinking about them.
2) we can see you whine later on forums about how little whiney's we are to report such things when we didn't lose anything to your cheats (and i personally love arguing with you over silly matters, you're clever and your logical fallacies and spin-doctoring techniques are wise).
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and use (common among NVA corps) silly game names.
excuse me ?
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Furthermore you have joined the most unskilled regional alliance in the universe, supporting a stupid anti-pirate forum PR campaign, I think you fit perfectly well there.
can i say the same about you joining the Forsaken Empire and trying to mount up that weak PR campaign against us, and get away with it hoping it'll fit in the topic as a valid argument ?
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Your cheap trick was known among a few SI, as you tried to do it on several occasions, too bad Falzone didn't know it, but thanks to him, nobody will care about duel conditions against you, cause nobody is going to duel you anylonger.
'Cheap trick' coming out of a *lly's mouth ? come on, get real Molly, i know you're cleverer than that.
We don't care about duels, we care about killing you and your mates. And having our victims flame us over chat/forums is, well, a bonus, even more with your forum squad being pretty much the most actives one in the community.
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In case you didn't get Falzone's point, try to read his posts harder and or maybe even try to imagine how fast one of you would post about SI not keeping their word if you would be the guy who got target/warp jammed.
Falzone's point is irrelevant. How can you guys SERIOUSLY ask for trust and honour in fights ? and you certainly aren't serious about that "how fast one of you would post about SI not keeping their word" thing ?
It's a RPG, you're pirates, we're pirate hunters, there's a war going on, you kill our ships, we kill your ships, both using the smart techniques to do it.
Only difference is that we do not have 'Carebears' in our corpnames, so please, 'kthxbyeˇ®' and 'have a cookieˇÖ'.
and i deliberately didn't use a single example to illustrate all that, not because i have none, but because i just cant chose the best one out of the myriads that come to my mind, and because i'm quite drunk.
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2003.11.16 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Stepping Razor on 16/11/2003 15:47:39
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file cheap whining exploit petitions
Sounds familiar....
No, wait, CoC hasn't had a JIP moved for them yet have they.
Razor
Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon
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1. Really, really fun gameplay
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Havocide
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Posted - 2003.11.16 16:02:00 -
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any reason at all to have an argument
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.16 16:11:00 -
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But maybe if u seem some of the smack i get in local from pirates, u would have an other impression.
Some of it is good fun, but i had to petition last night, i wont name players, but it wasnt on
Sorry to hear that solo, and I've heard it before. Not to my liking :(
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Cleuseau
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Posted - 2003.11.17 01:27:00 -
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I have to say that this is quite possibly the funniest thread I have read since I started playing Eve. I think more ppl should screw over SPCB so that they put more funny threads in the forums like this one.
And Falzone have you ever heard the saying "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" Well guess what? It just got done to you. HAHAHAHAHA
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Aterak
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Posted - 2003.11.17 03:11:00 -
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honour cannot be lost against a dishonourable person.
untrue you will indeed lose more honor if you are dishonourable with a dishonourable person. honour is something that is earned through blood and sweat or in this case plasma and missiles if you lie to an honourable person they will see it and then your honor is lost if you lie to a dishonourable person they will not know and then you have lost your honour. honour can be a hard thing to keep
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ElGuapo
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Posted - 2003.11.17 03:42:00 -
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I would have to disagree with you for 2 reasons:
1) What about a dishonourable act that attempted to be honourable to a 3rd partry while dishonouring an unhonourable person who unhonourably dishonoured yet another semi-honourable person?
2) What of all the people that strove not to be honoUrable but only honorable? But even with one letter less, is being honorable really all the worse than being honourable?
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2003.11.17 07:05:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Reaver on 17/11/2003 11:01:17
El
You've been watching to much "Yes Minister" ha ha ha Have to admit this is a funny thread..
As for me. Well I dont go in for Pistols at dawn and other such dalliances :) If you see me Im gonna try and kill you. I will be nice about it of course, as I dont engage in smack talk. I leave that to the children
PS: If you havnt got it yet falzone!! We were paid to kill you :) Dont you just love Eve intrigue huh!!
PPS: How does a Raven pilot stop at structure exactly? Switch on his "Missiles return to launchers" module perchance???
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
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IcemansMiner
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Posted - 2003.11.18 09:51:00 -
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Dont you just Love CoC. I guess it shouldnt suprise falzone he has a price on his head. Still maybe it does LOL :)
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XpoHoc
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Posted - 2003.11.18 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: XpoHoc on 18/11/2003 10:02:02
Jade,
Space Invaders are not part of Biomass
and there is no alliance called Da(o)rk Empire.
I don't think that you have choosen the right profession being a PR Manager.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.18 11:22:00 -
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Yes m'dear, singularly ineffective thus far ;) And how is life as a biobuddy working out for you?
love and peace
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2003.11.18 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: KIAInkZ on 18/11/2003 12:25:20
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Only difference is that we do not have 'Carebears' in our corpnames, so please, 'kthxbyeˇ®' and 'have a cookieˇÖ'.
sorry but that made me lol :D
Please can we have a voting system, i want to vote 5 stars
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Jade,
Space Invaders are not part of Biomass
Maybe someone should tell that to biomass
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.18 22:11:00 -
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End yoursleves, all of you.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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PollyPrissyPants
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Posted - 2004.03.18 17:00:00 -
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You know this was such a funny thread I couldnt bear to let it fade away. Keep in mind he had just stolen several billion isk worth of stuff from a Playboys at the time.
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Jarl Sigurd
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Posted - 2004.03.18 18:09:00 -
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You know this was such a funny thread I couldnt bear to let it fade away. Keep in mind he had just stolen several billion isk worth of stuff from a Playboys at the time.
Don't bump. You had me reading 2 pages there before I realised.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.03.18 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 18/03/2004 18:32:17
It's a shame that this happens. I imagine alot of ppl would like to duel down to structure or to ship death but (alleged) cases like this and others ruin it for the rest.
No honour in Eve it seems.
1 on 1 should mean that and if you break your word that makes you no better than the worst rat/corp thief/ore thief in game
IMHO
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Borg Fusion
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Posted - 2004.03.18 18:56:00 -
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Bah...Don't you guys think this is enough of drama, move on with your lives...
Borg <out>
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.03.18 18:59:00 -
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oooh, attack of the forum gravediggers...
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.03.18 19:07:00 -
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oooh, attack of the forum gravediggers...
Don't fear for Eris is here!
/me moderates the thread back to the dead
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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