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Xipe Totec
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:05:00 -
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Please make the new starfield graphics an option.
First it's not realistic, in real space (in contrast to all the wellknown SF-movies, even the best and factually accurate ones) you dont see that many stars (check with www.nasa.gov) and secondly I personally liked it better before, just the nebulas.
You can leave it in there if you must but make it an option. Thanx
As for the rest of the content patch: keep up the good work ccp!
CHeers
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Troy Knight
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:08:00 -
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Funny, because I love the starfeild--a starfeild that seems to match up with the map.
Lovely idea really.
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:08:00 -
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No. Love it.
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Xipe Totec
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:09:00 -
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Thats why I said, make it optional. I dont wanna take anything away. 
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Finite Horizon
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:11:00 -
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ye plz make a on/off
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Epidemis
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Xipe Totec
Please make the new starfield graphics an option.
First it's not realistic, in real space (in contrast to all the wellknown SF-movies, even the best and factually accurate ones) you dont see that many stars (check with www.nasa.gov) and secondly I personally liked it better before, just the nebulas.
You can leave it in there if you must but make it an option. Thanx
As for the rest of the content patch: keep up the good work ccp!
CHeers
I dont like it either, it's just a uniform ring of stars, there's no spots where there's less than the other parts of the ring, it's just unrealistic.
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Detavi Kade
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:12:00 -
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The Magical Realist
Doesn't understand what a "game" is. Constantly makes arguments based on what would be "realistic," even if the game is set in a fantasy world run by wizards and pixies.
Sample Quote: "You can't tell me a Mondlagarian Tiger Warrior is stronger than a Swamp Troll. That just doesn't make sense!"
Punishment: Sent back to kindergarten for remedial make-believe classes.
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Apollyon X
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:14:00 -
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I love it, it gives you a sense of just how big the galaxy is especially when you see the stars in context with the seamless map, awsome...
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Doragee
Minmatar
Unknown Society
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Detavi Kade
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The Magical Realist
Doesn't understand what a "game" is. Constantly makes arguments based on what would be "realistic," even if the game is set in a fantasy world run by wizards and pixies.
Sample Quote: "You can't tell me a Mondlagarian Tiger Warrior is stronger than a Swamp Troll. That just doesn't make sense!"
Punishment: Sent back to kindergarten for remedial make-believe classes.
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Xipe Totec
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:14:00 -
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I am not talking about the map ...
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Isyel
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:15:00 -
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And how exactly do the nebulas make any more sense? methinks you should check at www.nasa.gov yourself.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Cheers Restaurant and Bar
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 29/11/2006 21:17:00
Originally by: Xipe Totec
Please make the new starfield graphics an option.
First it's not realistic, in real space (in contrast to all the wellknown SF-movies, even the best and factually accurate ones) you dont see that many stars
Wrong. Photographs don't pick up stars because the camera is set for a daylight exposure of objects illuminated by the Sun. The human eye has a much larger dynamic range than film or CCDs, and can easily see stars in space, even when the Sun is also in the sky, even stars right up next to the Sun. The depiction of the sky in Revelations is accurate on that count, and would be even more realistic if the stars showed their actual colors, which can also be seen in space with the naked eye (behind a helmet visor, of course).
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Romeda
Minmatar
Trojan industries
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:17:00 -
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As an ametuer astronomer the reason why you don't see many stars in NASA images, is because either they are.
1> Short exposure targeting a brightly lit object like a moon.
2> Ones taken from orbit you will see no stars same reason why you don't see them in the daytime.
You can see many thousands of stars from earth at night and from space when there is no bright objects about to drown out the stars. But I do like the new stars, but an option to remove them would be nice for those who don't :)
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Epidemis
Originally by: Xipe Totec
Please make the new starfield graphics an option.
First it's not realistic, in real space (in contrast to all the wellknown SF-movies, even the best and factually accurate ones) you dont see that many stars (check with www.nasa.gov) and secondly I personally liked it better before, just the nebulas.
You can leave it in there if you must but make it an option. Thanx
As for the rest of the content patch: keep up the good work ccp!
CHeers
I dont like it either, it's just a uniform ring of stars, there's no spots where there's less than the other parts of the ring, it's just unrealistic.
Well, no. Maybe if you're sat in the middle of the galaxy, yah. Where I am (out at Deklein, on the edge of EVE) there are only stars in the direction of the rest of EVE, on the other side is emptiness. Which is really brilliant- give you much more immersion.
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Xipe Totec
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: Xipe Totec on 29/11/2006 21:23:16
Edited by: Xipe Totec on 29/11/2006 21:20:48
Yeah, I do concede that point, Isyel, to a cetain degree... , my wish however remains. The starfields made it less realistic even ...
(I didnt start a discussion on explosion/engine sounds in space, on purpose)
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Detavi Kade
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:19:00 -
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guys guys...lol nasa hasn't exactly peered thru the eve gate yet, yah know. It might be different on the other side..../wink
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Cheers Restaurant and Bar
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Romeda
2> Ones taken from orbit you will see no stars same reason why you don't see them in the daytime.
Not exactly. Atmospheric scattering renders all but the brightest stars and planets invisible during the daytime from the surface. But in space, there is no atmosphere, no scattering, and you can see stars as clearly in the daylight as you can at night, when the Sun is behind the Earth. It's the camera that is not able to record both daylit objects, and stars in the same exposure. If you were to view a scene in orbit in person, you'd see stars all over the sky, with more brilliance even in daylight than you could see from the darkest sky on the Earth's surface.
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Redpants
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:25:00 -
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The new star field is excellent.
The problem is it needs to sit behind the nebulas and gas clouds, not in front of them. That's what looks so unnatural and out of place about it.
Otherwise it could stand to not be a uniform single pixel, single color star field. The star should be the cooresponding color of the sun in the system it represents.
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Xipe Totec
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:25:00 -
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If you are in direct sunlight, you have to heavily shield your eyes (see astro-helmets). I doubt that with these on, you will see any stars next to the sun
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Troy Knight
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Troy Knight on 29/11/2006 21:28:03
Edited by: Troy Knight on 29/11/2006 21:27:43
Originally by: Xipe Totec
If you are in direct sunlight, you have to heavily shield your eyes (see astro-helmets). I doubt that with these on, you will see any stars next to the sun
Heh, ya, well, I'm sure the windows of your ship does some sort of sheilding from the sun ;)
cockpit is sensored? wow
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Nials Corva
Gallente
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Xipe Totec
just the nebulas.
The nebula that washes out the semi-transparent interface in 80% of systems so that you can never tell which modules are active unless you pan to a dark spot of sky?
I HATE the nebula.
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Detavi Kade
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:27:00 -
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well actually, you are not using your eyes to see the eve-verse. It's the cameras that pass the info to your pod. And those cameras are super duper, high falutin, infinite resolution, infinite spectrum cameras developed by the jovians. So there!
Oh god, did I just participate...
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Xipe Totec
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:29:00 -
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Heh, ya, well, I'm sure the windows of your ship does some sort of sheilding from the sun ;)
cockpit is sensored? wow
That wont make the stars any more visible
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PKlavins
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:29:00 -
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[Quote]Only has one complaint, but posts about it 15 times a day. This is because nobody else cares.
Sample Quote: "THE LAVENDER LACHESIS IS ACTUALLY PERIWINKLE!!!! WHY DON'T THEY FIX THIS??!!!?!"
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yea this IS fun! :D :P
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foolers
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:30:00 -
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hehe, its what makes the seamless zoom possible.
since its already rendering it, it doesnt have to load them into memory.
It just moves/scales them wich is much faster.
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BillyBong2
Amarr
Convergent
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:38:00 -
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Love it! Leave it alone 
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Devanesc
Disbelievers of Fate
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:42:00 -
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Let us choose. If some people like it they should be allowed to keep it. If some people don't like it, they should be allowed to get rid of it. Afterall, its not a game mechanic... its simply a graphic.
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Romeda
Minmatar
Trojan industries
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Originally by: Romeda
2> Ones taken from orbit you will see no stars same reason why you don't see them in the daytime.
Not exactly. Atmospheric scattering renders all but the brightest stars and planets invisible during the daytime from the surface. But in space, there is no atmosphere, no scattering, and you can see stars as clearly in the daylight as you can at night, when the Sun is behind the Earth. It's the camera that is not able to record both daylit objects, and stars in the same exposure. If you were to view a scene in orbit in person, you'd see stars all over the sky, with more brilliance even in daylight than you could see from the darkest sky on the Earth's surface.
/me sits corrected :), what if EVE became like Orbiter? Now that would be intresting
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Phoenix Lonestar
Litanies of Hate
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pham Sirge
Hi all,
I'd love the option to turn it off, Currently it just doesnt feel like good old eve  .
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<VTIL> Pham Sirge
Agreed.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Arowe Telak
2. Dust clouds and nebulae. Have you noticed that every single system has some sort of colored dust cloud or nebulae? While they exist in real life you should't be seeing then in every single system. Particularly in outer laying regions you shouldn't see anthing but black space with stars.
Actually, I'd contest this one. Firstly, New Eden (the EVE Universe) isn't in the Milkyway- its another galaxy. Plenty of galaxies have been observed which have massively higher nebulae content than Milkyway- we can safely assume New Eden is one of these.
Secondly, the map as we see it isn't the galaxy- it's the teeniest tiniest explored fragment of the galaxy. Galaxy = several billion stars. EVE = several hundred. Add to that the fact CCP reserves the right to "discover" more stars at any time they like, and the fact that you can see in your standard space view loads and loads of twinkling stars that don't represent in-game locations. All we see is that tiny amount of this galaxy that have had jump gates built in them.
So nya 
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