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Borat Guereen Chao3 Chao3 Alliance 23	Posted - 2015.07.09 01:43:10 - [1] - Quote In CCP's post about the upcoming changes, a significant piece of information is laid out by CCP Fozzie. "To ensure that anyone starting a Sovereignty capture event will also be able to complete the process, characters must be in a valid capsuleer Alliance in order to activate an Entosis link directly onto a TCU, IHub or Station. This restriction does not apply to Station Services." Obviously this means that unaffiliated corporations will not be able to directly impact sov. We regret that unaffiliated corporations are thus cast out of the sov game, even if we understand the mechanical reasons behind this requirement. One of our goal in New Eden was to establish an active group of independent and clandestine corporations to bring fight to Null Sec so as to make freeports out of NullSec stations, in the spirit of our minarchist revolution and our war on taxes. Unfortunately, this will not be possible under Fozzie sov, unless we leave clandestinity and become targets for the established imperial powers, a step that the Chao3 Revolutionary Council has decided to not take at that time. The CRC encourages all its freedom fighters to fights on the side that will flip or maintain any Null Sec station as a freeport. Speaker of Chao3 Porte Parole de Chao3
d0cTeR9 Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance 197	Posted - 2015.07.09 02:16:05 - [2] - Quote You can still entasis link station services, which is a pretty good and easy way to troll. You can also gate camp, do roams, etc. that's quite a lot of impact on null space sov holders. Want to be taken seriously? Then create an alliance and try to take null space that belongs to someone. It's only normal. Been around since the beginning.
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 38637	Posted - 2015.07.09 02:51:56 - [3] - Quote Sov is for Alliances, not Corporations. Nothing is particularly changing. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Yarda Black Militaris Industries Northern Coalition. 764	Posted - 2015.07.09 05:23:50 - [4] - Quote I find it very odd a corporation that wants to hold SOV knows nothing about either the current or new SOV system. But here's the trick you need: You form an alliance with your single corp as a executor corp. As long as you do not accept other corps, it just your one corp holding sov, using the alliance shell as a sabot.
Barrogh Habalu Forever Winter Absolute Zero. 912	Posted - 2015.07.09 05:59:21 - [5] - Quote If you really want to, you can just formally make your own alliance. Honestly, I didn't expect such requirement from CCP since it's so easily circumvented anyway.
Falken Falcon 32088	Posted - 2015.07.09 06:25:51 - [6] - Quote Just out of curiosity, are there currently solo corporations that hold sov? Aye, Sea Turtles
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 2260	Posted - 2015.07.09 07:24:16 - [7] - Quote Is this not only for capture of Sov? Rather than negating someone else's Sov, or have CCP gone back on their word that anyone can get involved in kicking out sov holders.
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 378	Posted - 2015.07.09 07:45:02 - [8] - Quote So everything will be finally as boring as it was before fozziesov. Fozzie came, Fozzie sov, Fozzie failed. ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 3479	Posted - 2015.07.09 13:45:38 - [9] - Quote I dont think you all get it. The OP does not want to take control of a station, he wants to others to NOT have control of a station. If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be required to be in an alliance? That said, OP, you can still make a dummy alliance, and move pilots in and out as needed. Know a Frozen fan? Check this out Frozen fanfiction
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1994	Posted - 2015.07.09 14:00:47 - [10] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: I dont think you all get it. The OP does not want to take control of a station, he wants to others to NOT have control of a station. If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be required to be in an alliance? That said, OP, you can still make a dummy alliance, and move pilots in and out as needed. He formed an alliance because he realised it was not hard. The rules don't care about your goal. You reach your goal by playing by the rules.
HeXxploiT Big Diggers Get Off My Lawn 161	Posted - 2015.07.09 15:39:50 - [11] - Quote Borat Guereen wrote: In CCP's post about the upcoming changes, a significant piece of information is laid out by CCP Fozzie. "To ensure that anyone starting a Sovereignty capture event will also be able to complete the process, characters must be in a valid capsuleer Alliance in order to activate an Entosis link directly onto a TCU, IHub or Station. This restriction does not apply to Station Services." Obviously this means that unaffiliated corporations will not be able to directly impact sov. We regret that unaffiliated corporations are thus cast out of the sov game, even if we understand the mechanical reasons behind this requirement. One of our goal in New Eden was to establish an active group of independent and clandestine corporations to bring fight to Null Sec so as to make freeports out of NullSec stations, in the spirit of our minarchist revolution and our war on taxes. Unfortunately, this will not be possible under Fozzie sov, unless we leave clandestinity and become targets for the established imperial powers, a step that the Chao3 Revolutionary Council has decided to not take at that time. The CRC encourages all its freedom fighters to fights on the side that will flip or maintain any Null Sec station as a freeport. Big deal. How hard is it to make an alliance. All one needs is two corporations joined together so two people?
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 3479	Posted - 2015.07.09 15:52:28 - [12] - Quote HeXxploiT wrote: Big deal. How hard is it to make an alliance. All one needs is two corporations joined together so two people? Do you even need two? You do need a billion ISK. Know a Frozen fan? Check this out Frozen fanfiction
Borat Guereen Chao3 Chao3 Alliance 26	Posted - 2015.07.09 16:48:04 - [13] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: I dont think you all get it. The OP does not want to take control of a station, he wants to others to NOT have control of a station. If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be required to be in an alliance? That said, OP, you can still make a dummy alliance, and move pilots in and out as needed. Yes, we already have an alliance, and our plan until this announcement was to participate into flipping stations to Freeports. If we can add pilots indeed to our alliance, this removes the clandestine part of our operation for our freedom fighters. We understand why an alliance is needed to take sov, but did not know it would be a requirement for flipping a station to Freeport. Speaker of Chao3 Porte Parole de Chao3
Commander Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1503	Posted - 2015.07.09 16:50:26 - [14] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Sov is for Alliances, not Corporations. Nothing is particularly changing. END OF THREAD tbh. There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22173	Posted - 2015.07.09 18:16:53 - [15] - Quote Well **, why don't we take this a step further... What about NPC corps? Why cant NPC Corps take Sov with the new system??!?!?! Why cant 1 man corps take sov??!?! Why cant completely NPC organizations take/retake sov!?!?! Why can cats run exploration sites, but cant take sov?!??! What happens if the Walnuts return!?!? What the hell is this sticky crap on my desk?!?!?! Who took my stapler?!??! What is the average airspeed velocity of an unlaiden swallow!?!?!? Who shot J.R!?!?!!? How many of these used !??!!!? appropriately?!?!!?! Why was my favorite taco truck out of salsa?!?!?! Where in the world was Carmen SanDiego?!??!!? What would you do for a Klondike bar?!?!?! Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?**
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24186	Posted - 2015.07.09 18:22:24 - [16] - Quote ^^ You forgot Can I have your stuff??!?!!?!? Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
stoicfaux 6096	Posted - 2015.07.09 18:23:29 - [17] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: What is the average airspeed velocity of an unlaiden swallow!?!?!? That's a trick question. All swallows have been laid, because swallow eggs are laid. Therefore there are no unlaiden swallows. Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22173	Posted - 2015.07.09 18:27:08 - [18] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: What is the average airspeed velocity of an unlaiden swallow!?!?!? That's a trick question. All swallows have been laid, because swallow eggs are laid. Therefore there are no unlaiden swallows. edit: Know what I mean, Vern? Don't you dare invoke the spirit of Jim Varney. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 1273	Posted - 2015.07.09 18:44:52 - [19] - Quote I get non alliances not being able to complete the capture event, but not being able to start it, thus flipping the station to freeport mode, seems less clear. if you aren't willing to defend your space it should be vulnerable, and seems like an arbitrary restriction. @ChainsawPlankto
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6806	Posted - 2015.07.09 18:47:44 - [20] - Quote Too many "magic rules" and arbitrary crap is going to make the SOV changes just another meh. For the love of God, CCP please just kill all SOV mechanics and let the players work it out. Kill SOV or you kill the game. I'm seeing sub 15K logged in and I got people running missions un-molested with 2 wardecs going. Summertime used to be full of epic because people had time to screw around. Now it's practically dead out there. Even the gankers are not seen much these days. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 16667	Posted - 2015.07.09 19:08:00 - [21] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Too many "magic rules" and arbitrary crap is going to make the SOV changes just another meh. For the love of God, CCP please just kill all SOV mechanics and let the players work it out. Kill SOV or you kill the game. I'm seeing sub 15K logged in and I got people running missions un-molested with 2 wardecs going. Summertime used to be full of epic because people had time to screw around. Now it's practically dead out there. Even the gankers are not seen much these days. You should swing by the Optometrist for a checkup, mate. There are 29000+ logged in. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1995	Posted - 2015.07.09 19:09:44 - [22] - Quote Chainsaw Plankton wrote: I get non alliances not being able to complete the capture event, but not being able to start it, thus flipping the station to freeport mode, seems less clear. if you aren't willing to defend your space it should be vulnerable, and seems like an arbitrary restriction. Because it's easyer to code that way and it's not like being in an alliance is a large requirement...
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6807	Posted - 2015.07.09 19:26:16 - [23] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Too many "magic rules" and arbitrary crap is going to make the SOV changes just another meh. For the love of God, CCP please just kill all SOV mechanics and let the players work it out. Kill SOV or you kill the game. I'm seeing sub 15K logged in and I got people running missions un-molested with 2 wardecs going. Summertime used to be full of epic because people had time to screw around. Now it's practically dead out there. Even the gankers are not seen much these days. You should swing by the Optometrist for a checkup, mate. There are 29000+ logged in. I'm not logged in all day. I play in PST at night and have seen a significant drop. Or maybe the leftoids in PST have decided to all go live in a commune out in the woods or something. I don't know. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 380	Posted - 2015.07.09 20:24:18 - [24] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Too many "magic rules" and arbitrary crap is going to make the SOV changes just another meh. For the love of God, CCP please just kill all SOV mechanics and let the players work it out. Kill SOV or you kill the game. I'm seeing sub 15K logged in and I got people running missions un-molested with 2 wardecs going. Summertime used to be full of epic because people had time to screw around. Now it's practically dead out there. Even the gankers are not seen much these days. You should swing by the Optometrist for a checkup, mate. There are 29000+ logged in. You mean only the spike, I could say there are more than 60 000 logged in, even bigger number, but its in a span of whole day. You see what I did there. And we are at year 2007 levels, I mean people that fatiqued to log in. Unimpressive. ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 16667	Posted - 2015.07.09 20:24:37 - [25] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Malcanis wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Too many "magic rules" and arbitrary crap is going to make the SOV changes just another meh. For the love of God, CCP please just kill all SOV mechanics and let the players work it out. Kill SOV or you kill the game. I'm seeing sub 15K logged in and I got people running missions un-molested with 2 wardecs going. Summertime used to be full of epic because people had time to screw around. Now it's practically dead out there. Even the gankers are not seen much these days. You should swing by the Optometrist for a checkup, mate. There are 29000+ logged in. I'm not logged in all day. I play in PST at night and have seen a significant drop. Or maybe the leftoids in PST have decided to all go live in a commune out in the woods or something. I don't know. Well I suppose that it's possible that 14000+ players logged in during the 45 whole minutes between our posts "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6809	Posted - 2015.07.09 21:38:16 - [26] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Malcanis wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Too many "magic rules" and arbitrary crap is going to make the SOV changes just another meh. For the love of God, CCP please just kill all SOV mechanics and let the players work it out. Kill SOV or you kill the game. I'm seeing sub 15K logged in and I got people running missions un-molested with 2 wardecs going. Summertime used to be full of epic because people had time to screw around. Now it's practically dead out there. Even the gankers are not seen much these days. You should swing by the Optometrist for a checkup, mate. There are 29000+ logged in. I'm not logged in all day. I play in PST at night and have seen a significant drop. Or maybe the leftoids in PST have decided to all go live in a commune out in the woods or something. I don't know. Well I suppose that it's possible that 14000+ players logged in during the 45 whole minutes between our posts Look I've been playing from my present time zone since mid 2008 and it just seemed more lively back then. Or maybe it was the space dinosaurs. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Steve Ronuken Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM 5425	Posted - 2015.07.09 22:06:17 - [27] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: HeXxploiT wrote: Big deal. How hard is it to make an alliance. All one needs is two corporations joined together so two people? Do you even need two? You do need a billion ISK. 1 player, with a billion isk to spare can make an alliance of their own. If they wanted to, say, advertise they're running for CSM in every post on the forums. Woo! CSM X! Fuzzwork Enterprises Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Kaarous Aldurald Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 13579	Posted - 2015.07.09 22:13:54 - [28] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be required to be in an alliance? If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be allowed to do it in the first place? There are plenty of other ways to troll in this game. Sov should be about taking and controlling territory, not weaponizing banality. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs. Best Meltdown Ever.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 3485	Posted - 2015.07.09 23:49:54 - [29] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be required to be in an alliance? If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be allowed to do it in the first place? Are you saying that if I am in an alliance, but I have no intention of completing the capture process, then I should not be allowed to knock a station into freeport? How will that rule be enforced? Being in an alliance does not equal the intent to do anything. Know a Frozen fan? Check this out Frozen fanfiction
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 1275	Posted - 2015.07.10 03:59:15 - [30] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Too many "magic rules" and arbitrary crap is going to make the SOV changes just another meh. For the love of God, CCP please just kill all SOV mechanics and let the players work it out. Kill SOV or you kill the game. I'm seeing sub 15K logged in and I got people running missions un-molested with 2 wardecs going. Summertime used to be full of epic because people had time to screw around. Now it's practically dead out there. Even the gankers are not seen much these days. You should swing by the Optometrist for a checkup, mate. There are 29000+ logged in. late night US TZ it does get pretty dead, although looking at eve-offline.net it looks like 15k is about the lowest it goes (at least on the 3m graph). From what I can see if it goes below that it is because of downtime. @ChainsawPlankto
Borat Guereen Chao3 Chao3 Alliance 27	Posted - 2015.07.10 05:30:49 - [31] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: HeXxploiT wrote: Big deal. How hard is it to make an alliance. All one needs is two corporations joined together so two people? Do you even need two? You do need a billion ISK. 1 player, with a billion isk to spare can make an alliance of their own. If they wanted to, say, advertise they're running for CSM in every post on the forums. Speaker of Chao3 Porte Parole de Chao3
Sequester Risalo Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd. 156	Posted - 2015.07.10 07:44:15 - [32] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Well ****, why don't we take this a step further... What about NPC corps? Why cant NPC Corps take Sov with the new system??!?!?! Why cant 1 man corps take sov??!?! Why cant completely NPC organizations take/retake sov!?!?! Why can cats run exploration sites, but cant take sov?!??! What happens if the Walnuts return!?!? What the hell is this sticky crap on my desk?!?!?! Who took my stapler?!??! What is the average airspeed velocity of an unlaiden swallow!?!?!? Who shot J.R!?!?!!? How many of these used !??!!!? appropriately?!?!!?! Why was my favorite taco truck out of salsa?!?!?! Where in the world was Carmen SanDiego?!??!!? What would you do for a Klondike bar?!?!?! Arent there any videos about platypuses anymore?
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 38653	Posted - 2015.07.10 08:18:50 - [33] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be required to be in an alliance? If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be allowed to do it in the first place? Are you saying that if I am in an alliance, but I have no intention of completing the capture process, then I should not be allowed to knock a station into freeport? How will that rule be enforced? Being in an alliance does not equal the intent to do anything. The restriction is on starting a sovereignty capture event as starting a capture event is an Alliance action. Corps not part of an alliance have no way to capture sov, so rightly so have no need to start a capture event that by definition they can't achieve anyway. Kaarous's comment was just in line with that. If a Corp wants to start capture events, then join an Alliance. If you're in an Alliance, then troll all you like. We can't really expect the game to know your intent, only whether the mechanics even apply to you or not. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Falken Falcon 32096	Posted - 2015.07.10 09:24:06 - [34] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be required to be in an alliance? If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be allowed to do it in the first place? Are you saying that if I am in an alliance, but I have no intention of completing the capture process, then I should not be allowed to knock a station into freeport? How will that rule be enforced? Being in an alliance does not equal the intent to do anything. The restriction is on starting a sovereignty capture event as starting a capture event is an Alliance action. Corps not part of an alliance have no way to capture sov, so rightly so have no need to start a capture event that by definition they can't achieve anyway. Kaarous's comment was just in line with that. If a Corp wants to start capture events, then join an Alliance. If you're in an Alliance, then troll all you like. We can't really expect the game to know your intent, only whether the mechanics even apply to you or not. Their idea is that why can't a strong corp initiate the capture if they can do it. There are larger and stronger corporations than some alliances are. They wanna know why is the alliance a requirement. And the answer to it is the reduced "sov trolling" that the alliance requirement brings. If you are strong enough to take and hold a sov, you should be able to create a simple alliance for your corp. Aye, Sea Turtles
Anthar Thebess 1222	Posted - 2015.07.10 09:37:39 - [35] - Quote This is good rule, especially that any one can create corp and alliance , so i don't see any problem. Just make : Random Harassing Corporation and alliance Your Prime Time Belong To Us and you can do whatever you want. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Barrogh Habalu Forever Winter Absolute Zero. 914	Posted - 2015.07.10 09:59:06 - [36] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Are you saying that if I am in an alliance, but I have no intention of completing the capture process, then I should not be allowed to knock a station into freeport? How will that rule be enforced? Being in an alliance does not equal the intent to do anything. I suppose the idea is that if you want a freeport, then you must be able to capture the territory, hold it, then declare that it's a freeport (providing proper rights to everyone) and anyone who messes up with this status and your enforcement of it will be shot. That said, arbitrary restriction that says you must wear your alliance tabard is all kinds of arbitrary and easily sidestepped with no gameplay involved, so I'm not sure what does it achieves.
Burnharder Tiny Holdings Aureus Alae 0	Posted - 2015.07.10 10:05:11 - [37] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Too many "magic rules" and arbitrary crap is going to make the SOV changes just another meh. The choice for a developer here is "make magic rule" or "engineer or refactor the current solution". The former is easier (and a lot cheaper to do) than the latter. But you're right, magic rules make for terrible gameplay. With respect to the OP, unaffiliated corps still have a role helping the alliance hold the field, which you still need to do to capture a system.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22177	Posted - 2015.07.10 15:12:33 - [38] - Quote Sequester Risalo wrote: Arent there any videos about platypuses anymore? Platypus content is reserved for Icon Whine Threads. Unsuccessful at Everything reserves the right to use educational/entertainment materials pertaining to the Platypus as a response to most patch related spammed posterior perturbment. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Borat Guereen Chao3 Chao3 Alliance 28	Posted - 2015.07.13 19:54:43 - [39] - Quote One of our clandestine cell's lead, Saisin, has brought to the Chao3 Revolutionary Council an idea that has been adopted and put into motion. Rogue Operatives Corp will allow anyone to start Entosis capture on Stations, iHUB and TCUs Speaker of Chao3 Porte Parole de Chao3
Saisin Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp Chao3 Alliance 269	Posted - 2015.07.13 20:15:38 - [40] - Quote Borat Guereen wrote: One of our clandestine cell's lead, Saisin, has brought to the Chao3 Revolutionary Council an idea that has been adopted and put into motion. Rogue Operatives Corp will allow anyone to start Entosis capture on Stations, iHUB and TCUs The recruitment thread can be found here. "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo. solo? There is a new hope...
Infinity Ziona Cloakers 2311	Posted - 2015.07.14 06:15:21 - [41] - Quote Falken Falcon wrote: Scipio Artelius wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be required to be in an alliance? If your goal does not include completing the capture process, why should you be allowed to do it in the first place? Are you saying that if I am in an alliance, but I have no intention of completing the capture process, then I should not be allowed to knock a station into freeport? How will that rule be enforced? Being in an alliance does not equal the intent to do anything. The restriction is on starting a sovereignty capture event as starting a capture event is an Alliance action. Corps not part of an alliance have no way to capture sov, so rightly so have no need to start a capture event that by definition they can't achieve anyway. Kaarous's comment was just in line with that. If a Corp wants to start capture events, then join an Alliance. If you're in an Alliance, then troll all you like. We can't really expect the game to know your intent, only whether the mechanics even apply to you or not. Their idea is that why can't a strong corp initiate the capture if they can do it. There are larger and stronger corporations than some alliances are. They wanna know why is the alliance a requirement. And the answer to it is the reduced "sov trolling" that the alliance requirement brings. If you are strong enough to take and hold a sov, you should be able to create a simple alliance for your corp. The term Alliance indicates two separate entities forming together. Requiring a corporation (one entity) to create an alliance is stupid. Based on numbers would make more sense. An alliance of 1 person gaming the system entosising makes less sense than a corp or 500 doing the same. CCP Fozzie GÇ£We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGÇª in null sec anomalies. GÇ£* Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Anselme Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2015.07.14 12:21:17 - [42] - Quote What's wrong with creating an alliance that's open to any corp that wants to turn revolutionary? An alliance doesn't need any leadership. It can function just fine as a loose affiliation in name only. it's just a game mechanic.
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2033	Posted - 2015.07.14 13:15:36 - [43] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: The term Alliance indicates two separate entities forming together. Requiring a corporation (one entity) to create an alliance is stupid. Based on numbers would make more sense. An alliance of 1 person gaming the system entosising makes less sense than a corp or 500 doing the same. The term alliance now also mean "can engage in SOV shenanigans".
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2033	Posted - 2015.07.14 13:18:26 - [44] - Quote Barrogh Habalu wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: Are you saying that if I am in an alliance, but I have no intention of completing the capture process, then I should not be allowed to knock a station into freeport? How will that rule be enforced? Being in an alliance does not equal the intent to do anything. I suppose the idea is that if you want a freeport, then you must be able to capture the territory, hold it, then declare that it's a freeport (providing proper rights to everyone) and anyone who messes up with this status and your enforcement of it will be shot. That said, arbitrary restriction that says you must wear your alliance tabard is all kinds of arbitrary and easily sidestepped with no gameplay involved, so I'm not sure what does it achieves. How do you sidestep the tabard requirement if the module just won't run if you are not wearing it?
Saisin Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp Chao3 Alliance 269	Posted - 2015.07.14 16:30:21 - [45] - Quote Anselme wrote: What's wrong with creating an alliance that's open to any corp that wants to turn revolutionary? An alliance doesn't need any leadership. It can function just fine as a loose affiliation in name only. it's just a game mechanic. Absolutely. In our case, the Chao3's leadership is simply providing a vision and goals in game, and those that like the spirit of it participate without ever joining the alliance. The alliance is more like a figurehead in that case, and the leadership still has to play the game to earn their own isk, and not rely on members taxes or top-down incomes gained from the game time of their lemmings or renters. Initially, when I brought my idea about the entosis for all to Chao3, I was proposing accepting any unaffiliated corp that wanted to start sov captures into the alliance. They reviewed the details and consequences of my idea with the current game mechanics, and decided for creating a corp instead and accepting individual pilots freely as the corp executor vote for the alliance could easily be used to do a hostile take-over. "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo. solo? There is a new hope...
Saisin Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp Chao3 Alliance 269	Posted - 2015.07.14 16:32:14 - [46] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: How do you sidestep the tabard requirement if the module just won't run if you are not wearing it? Simply have one of your pilot apply to my corp, and he/she will be able to start a capture on station, iHUB or TCU, no questions or requirements asked... ... or you can train the right skills and spend 1 billion ISK to start your own alliance. "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo. solo? There is a new hope...
45thtiger 0109 AL3XAND3R. 153	Posted - 2015.07.14 23:20:01 - [47] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Sov is for Alliances, not Corporations. Nothing is particularly changing. +100000000000000000000 Correct and agreed IBTL You Have to take the good with the bad and the bad with the good. Welcome to EvE OnLiNe

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