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Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.09 09:31:15 -
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Some of us have been worried for a couple of years about the declining population of eve, we tried to speak but we only got back trolling (eve is dying since 2004 blah blah). By now though most people have realised the rapidly declining user base is a fact.
However, no one knows that better than CCP, yet we don't see any serious effort to revitalise the game. Fixes and balance tweaks can get you so far and you won't convince more people to go to null no matter how lucrative you make it. The problem with null is the people that it attracts, the people that live there and the sooner they realise that the better. Eve desperately needs fundamental changes and new content and with the rate CCP is releasing updates I just don't see that happening before the game dies.
Could it be that CCP have realised how badly they messed up? They realised that Eve is old and there is no time to fix it. Instead they have gone into self preservation mode and have been stashing most of their income ( why the sudden influx of skins?) so they can fund the development of a whole new game. A new start without the outdated mechanics of Eve. They can even get some support from kickstarter. Would you give them such support? |

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.09 09:42:54 -
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Oh noes! EVE is surely dying for realz this time! |

Lan Wang
V I R I I
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Posted - 2015.07.09 09:56:00 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote:yet we don't see any serious effort to revitalise the game.
you must be blind or is it because the fixes are not directly aimed at your activities/playstyle?
or is this stealth for needing more pve activities or being spoonfed some more content?
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:00:19 -
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We had this thread yesterday already and it will get locked like the last one.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:03:43 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Samir Duran Xadi wrote:yet we don't see any serious effort to revitalise the game. you must be blind or is it because the fixes are not directly aimed at your activities/playstyle? or is this stealth for needing more pve activities or being spoonfed some more content? I hope WoW never dies, because else we will have the same bullshitteria now, but 100x worse ...
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Aneu Angellus
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:13:37 -
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Lol, that is all. |

Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:16:20 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:We had this thread yesterday already and it will get locked like the last one.
How come? We're not allowed to talk about the possibility of a new game from CCP? No wonder these forums are desolate. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:18:36 -
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This again? Really?!? ibtl 
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Lan Wang
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:23:07 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:We had this thread yesterday already and it will get locked like the last one. How come? We're not allowed to talk about the possibility of a new game from CCP? No wonder these forums are desolate.
its more like ranting, ccp is a company they make skins because microtransactions are a thing
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:33:09 -
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Actually breaks like 5 rules I think. Ranting, trolling, redundant, roumers, reopening closed threads. Give that man a forum vacation  |

Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:38:20 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:We had this thread yesterday already and it will get locked like the last one. How come? We're not allowed to talk about the possibility of a new game from CCP? No wonder these forums are desolate. its more like ranting, ccp is a company they make skins because microtransactions are a thing Overpriced micro transactions on a subscription based game is surely a sign of things going well financially for CCP  |

Lucy Lopez
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:39:07 -
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I see this thread attracted the usual predictable responses. No wonder most people post elsewhere now. |

Lucy Lopez
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:41:28 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:We had this thread yesterday already and it will get locked like the last one. How come? We're not allowed to talk about the possibility of a new game from CCP? No wonder these forums are desolate. its more like ranting, ccp is a company they make skins because microtransactions are a thing Overpriced micro transactions on a subscription based game is surely a sign of things going well financially for CCP 
A similar thing happened with WoW. Once Blizzard realised large swathes of their playerbase were stupid enough to throw money at them in return for sparkly flying mounts and server transfers the number of microtransactions increased but the quality of the actual game decreased. |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2015.07.09 10:42:17 -
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CCP had a lucky shot with EVE. I don't think they would be able to replicate that. Look at their idiotic decisions on all their other games.
Dust 514: Released on a dying platform with underwhelming performance, graphics and gameplay (seriously, I tried it, it is horrible)
World of Darkness: Bschhh?
Valkyrie: Based on some 3D googles stuff no one has and few ever will purchase. Feeds on a "WOAH SPACE!" effect which fades after 30min and then it probably just becomes annoying to wear this ******* googles.
You really think a company like that can make an EVE 2.0?
They actually do a good job at fixing EVE. All they have to do is stay out of the sandbox and balance and fix stuff.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:07:45 -
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Oh and does anyone else notice the familiarity to the character from yesterday and the similar writing style?
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:31:00 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:We had this thread yesterday already and it will get locked like the last one. How come? We're not allowed to talk about the possibility of a new game from CCP? No wonder these forums are desolate. its more like ranting, ccp is a company they make skins because microtransactions are a thing Overpriced micro transactions on a subscription based game is surely a sign of things going well financially for CCP 
cant be doing that bad if they bought back all the shares they sold to investors?
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:35:46 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote:we don't see any serious effort
Better open your eyes than. Changes are done and serious, Fozzy Sov is quite a big change. Seekers / Drifters show greater changes to PvE, where E-Pirates get smarter AI. You can expect that those AI will slowly replace the other ones.
This "Brain in a Box" is what someone might call EvE 2.0 where some of the serverprogramms are rewritten, some part is moved from python to c++.
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Lord LazyGhost
Sons Against Humanity
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:38:31 -
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I worry that CCP are the one hit wonder of the gaming industry.
I always hoped that world of darkness would again put them on the map. but no sunk millions into it then and just drop it dam you CCP dam you! |

Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:39:46 -
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Since eve is dying, how did systems become so crwoded over the last five years... Or why did the average gang increase in numbers so much? And why are there multiple gangs around, when it used to be just that one gatecamp in the area... |

Jeanne Tivianne
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:44:05 -
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Once again, this re-post of a re-post of a re-post of a thread is going places. |

Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:44:36 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote: By now though most people have realised the rapidly declining user base is a fact.
So because you're saying it, then it must be a fact?
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Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:47:12 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:CCP had a lucky shot with EVE. I don't think they would be able to replicate that. Look at their idiotic decisions on all their other games.
Dust 514: Released on a dying platform with underwhelming performance, graphics and gameplay (seriously, I tried it, it is horrible)
World of Darkness: Bschhh?
Valkyrie: Based on some 3D googles stuff no one has and few ever will purchase. Feeds on a "WOAH SPACE!" effect which fades after 30min and then it probably just becomes annoying to wear this ******* googles.
You really think a company like that can make an EVE 2.0?
They actually do a good job at fixing EVE. All they have to do is stay out of the sandbox and balance and fix stuff.
Unfortunately, I agree with you but if they want to put a stop to a declining userbase they need to make bigger changes than just fixing existing mechanics. Eve is a sandbox and without people the game loses its meaning.
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Oh and does anyone else notice the familiarity to the character from yesterday and the similar writing style?
Sorry to disappoint you but I don't have the spare time you do, you'll find that out as you grow older and take responsibilities. I make a couple of posts per month when I feel like I have something worthwhile to say. |

Lan Wang
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Posted - 2015.07.09 12:00:41 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Unfortunately, I agree with you but if they want to put a stop to a declining userbase they need to make bigger changes than just fixing existing mechanics. Eve is a sandbox and without people the game loses its meaning.
so whats your suggestion on fixing eve?
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Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.09 12:20:55 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Unfortunately, I agree with you but if they want to put a stop to a declining userbase they need to make bigger changes than just fixing existing mechanics. Eve is a sandbox and without people the game loses its meaning. so whats your suggestion on fixing eve?
It would be much easier to list things that don't need to be changed. CCP just needs to work harder for their size the content upgrades are far too small. They can also start listening to their players and not cater to certain playstyles (recent nullsec wh change for example). Expansions the size of apocrypha or even bigger need to become the norm again. |

Lan Wang
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Posted - 2015.07.09 12:32:42 -
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all sounds really biased in my opinion, like you want something changed which caters to you only
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Commander Spurty
Dimension Door We need wards.
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Posted - 2015.07.09 12:36:39 -
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There are not enough faces and palms to describe the feelings this thread invokes.
There are good ships
And wood ships
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are
Spaceships
Built by CCP
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
771
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Posted - 2015.07.09 12:57:01 -
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Lucy Lopez wrote:I see this thread attracted the usual predictable responses. No wonder most people post elsewhere now. Please take a look at reddit and good luck explaining how most of these people could EVER be considered a loss! 
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
771
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Posted - 2015.07.09 12:57:59 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Unfortunately, I agree with you but if they want to put a stop to a declining userbase they need to make bigger changes than just fixing existing mechanics. Eve is a sandbox and without people the game loses its meaning. so whats your suggestion on fixing eve? It would be much easier to list things that don't need to be changed. CCP just needs to work harder for their size the content upgrades are far too small. They can also start listening to their players and not cater to certain playstyles (recent nullsec wh change for example). Expansions the size of apocrypha or even bigger need to become the norm again.

Btw, your "worthwhile to say" is the same we read hundreds of times already. Your ignorance ian't even funny. Just like the last guy do you have nothing new to bring to the table, yet feel you deserve your own thread and don't even DARE to verify the redundancy!
It's not worthwhile just because you think it is, no matter how many alts you all come up with.
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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:02:34 -
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Someone stole my idea 
I wish you all the luck OP...you will need it...to try to have a civil discussion about something constructive...
PM to forum moderators: You should lock this thread also. In fact you should lock all threads that could even have a remote chance of leading to a discussion of some sorts. That is definitely not what forums on the internet are for. No...they are only for throwing flowers at each other and only discussing things that we all agree on...doh.
Especially things like game design should never be discussed in the forums (!) as these are bound to lead to people actually having different thoughts.
Also you should take some random phrase from the rules. Especially the one about "trolling" or something. Pretty much everything can be squeezed into that one.
Also you should definitely never point fingers at any of the rude posters around here (their feelings might get hurt) that are destroying all of the threads and especially ones that they don't fancy or where they hold a different standpoint of that of the original poster.
It is much easier to continue and lock threads.
Sarcasm off.
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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:08:04 -
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Going to re-post something I wrote earlier as I refuse have it sent to some internet graveyard somewhere:
Quote:With more graphic combat where you CAN control the ship easier and standardised viewpoints and battle-grids.
Less player power. I know player power and all that bla bla bla but in the end if there is too much player power the game will get stale (sooner or later). So more co-op but less "massive" focus.
Basically do an Elite Dangerous but "do it right". The EVE way.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:08:49 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:Someone stole my idea  I wish you all the luck OP...you will need it...to try to have a civil discussion about something constructive... PM to forum moderators: You should lock this thread also. In fact you should lock all threads that could even have a remote chance of leading to a discussion of some sorts. That is definitely not what forums on the internet are for. No...they are only for throwing flowers at each other and only discussing things that we all agree on...doh.
Especially things like game design should never be discussed in the forums (!) as these are bound to lead to people actually having different thoughts.
Also you should take some random phrase from the rules. Especially the one about "trolling" or something. Pretty much everything can be squeezed into that one.
Also you should definitely never point fingers at any of the rude posters around here (their feelings might get hurt) that are destroying all of the threads and especially ones that they don't fancy or where they hold a different standpoint of that of the original poster.
It is much easier to continue and lock threads.
Sarcasm off. So when you started insulting people, first btw, that was totally okay? 
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5870457
Who started the heavy insults, because people didn't agree with him?
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Magnus Orly
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:12:02 -
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Oh yeah...sure...I insulted first my ass. Pretty sure most of the posters in my former thread already edited their posts but for NO reason whatsoever...there where like 3-4 posts calling me names and THAT was first. After that I can agree that I lost it...but that is because they don't have the right to behave like that...at least that's what I think.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:14:51 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:Oh yeah...sure...I insulted first my ass. Pretty sure most of the posters in my former thread already edited their posts but for NO reason whatsoever...there where like 3-4 posts calling me names and THAT was first. After that I can agree that I lost it...but that is because they don't have the right to behave like that...at least that's what I think. So you admit you did, yet you tell US we can't have civilized discussions?
Do you honestly not understand why people reacted that way? I give you the benefit of doubt, this once, and will explain it to you if you just LISTEN!
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Magnus Orly
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:15:08 -
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Ah, very good of you to post a link to that one. Perfect...now everyone can see what a liar you are. Also they can see that one of the so called "first" posts is actually even made by you...doh...something about lowlifes....
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:17:02 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:Someone stole my idea  It's not an original idea, and it definitely wasn't your idea in the first place, as evidenced by the numerous variations on the topic that have been posted in the Eve forums over the last 10 or more years.
Quote:I wish you all the luck OP...you will need it...to try to have a civil discussion about something constructive... Discussion doesn't normally involve calling every other participant a troll because they disagree with you.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:17:53 -
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wellthatescalatedquickly.jpg 
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Magnus Orly
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:19:50 -
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Jonah...I never called anyone a troll...that is one of the most stupid and misused formulations ever used on the internet.
I would get mad if someone called me a troll.
So again...what are you talking about?
I actually agree with the original poster. Didn't you get that yet?
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:22:31 -
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How in hell did you expect your self entitled behqviour to not cause issue? Do you even know how self entitled you behave?Would you behave like that IRL? Come to their place and tell them how much you loved what it could be, demanding severe changes only because you THINK they are better?
IRL people would smack you for that! I would! Then I'd see you cry, laugh at you, slap you once more and explained you how you better grow up fast else it'll turn into a habit! You can't behave like that.
Got it? Stop acting like a child! You're an adult, so expect to be treated like one!
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:24:53 -
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We need to get rid of these children...
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:24:56 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:Jonah...I never called anyone a troll...that is one of the most stupid and misused formulations ever used on the internet.
I would get mad if someone called me a troll.
So again...what are you talking about? Really?
Quote:I actually agree with the original poster. Didn't you get that yet? I got it fine thanks; you're free to agree with him, and those of us that don't are free to disagree with both of you.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11711
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:28:17 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Magnus Orly wrote:Oh yeah...sure...I insulted first my ass. Pretty sure most of the posters in my former thread already edited their posts but for NO reason whatsoever...there where like 3-4 posts calling me names and THAT was first. After that I can agree that I lost it...but that is because they don't have the right to behave like that...at least that's what I think. So you admit you did, yet you tell US we can't have civilized discussions? Do you honestly not understand why people reacted that way? I give you the benefit of doubt, this once, and will explain it to you if you just LISTEN! ]
You and I both know he's not going to do that. People who post horrible UN-EVE-like ideas (who then recieve the natural criticism that comes with such a dumb idea) are always super touchy and immature. Those kinds of people have serious double standards, ie it's ok for me to say dumb thigns but if YOU say something I don't like, you're an idiot.
No use talking to people like that.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:28:32 -
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Are we doing this again? Seriously? How many times is that now this year?
No, I'm really asking. I haven't been around much. But if I remember correctly, we had six or seven of these threads in 2014 alone.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:28:45 -
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Very observant of you Jonah. You cought me in weak moment there. Hopefully people will read all the previous posts in that thread to realise WHY I was angry.
And STILL you should note that I did STILL NOT call anyone specific a "troll". I only said that all of the ones that where calling me names for no reasons are "all trolls".
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:30:47 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:Very observant of you Jonah. You cought me in weak moment there. Hopefully people will read all the previous posts in that thread to realise WHY I was angry. You were angry because people called you out on what is essentially a rewrite of countless threads before it that were also shot down in flames for being generally shite.
Quote:And STILL you should note that I did STILL NOT call anyone specific a "troll". I only said that all of the ones that where calling me names for no reasons are "all trolls". I never said you did, learn to read.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11711
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:31:23 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Are we doing this again? Seriously? How many times is that now this year?
No, I'm really asking. I haven't been around much. But if I remember correctly, we had six or seven of these threads in 2014 alone.
We are on track to eclipse last years total, or we would be if EVE wasn't going to die this year, because it's totally going to die this year, I heard it on the forums so it must be true which is why we can ignore the last 12 years of EVE is dying 
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:31:40 -
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It doesn't matter why you were angry.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6619
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:31:48 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:Hopefully people will read all the previous posts in that thread to realise WHY I was angry.
Was it because you stubbed your toe? That ALWAYS makes me angry.
Words on the internet don't though.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:33:04 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: You and I both know he's not going to do that. People who post horrible UN-EVE-like ideas (who then recieve the natural criticism that comes with such a dumb idea) are always super touchy and immature. Those kinds of people have serious double standards, ie it's ok for me to say dumb thigns but if YOU say something I don't like, you're an idiot.
No use talking to people like that.
Oh Jenn, I was blind. I couldn't see. Ofcourse you are right. All my ideas...everything I write is UN-EVE like. In fact....I don't even have a right to play this game.
How stupid of me. I will at once refrain from it.
It is only you and your select group that really know how to play EVE.
Hence I totally agree that the least they could do is to bully me in front of everyone here in the forums.
I will bend over and give myself 10 lashes with my own belt now.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
773
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:34:08 -
[49] - Quote
So immature and self entitled. Why hasn't this child got decced and ganked out already? Is this just bait?
Finally! Temperature dropped considerably and it's raining! I run outside cheering life itself, only wearing a tanktop and panties... and as the falling rain caresses my skin, I hear thunder announce the coming storm. Romantic times ahead...
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6619
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:35:28 -
[50] - Quote
I heard that if you stub your toe, a good way of easing the pain is smashing your face against a wall. So I tried that. It eased the pain in my toe, which was great, but then I had a pain in my face. But then a miracle happened. When I realised I'd have to spend money fixing the wall, I got so mad the pain in my face went away as well.
Then I had a beer or twelve and nothing mattered anymore.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:37:20 -
[51] - Quote
Lan Wang wrote:all sounds really biased in my opinion, like you want something changed which caters to you only.
what exactly is your playstyle if you dont mind me asking?
Quite the opposite I want the game to become significantly better, modernised (not easier just slicker) or just scrape it off and start new. I would hate to see Eve slowly die. I'm a wormholer. The change I mentioned affects mostly nullsec entities like PL but I know a bs change when I see one. It's just a tiny example nothing more.
Remiel Pollard wrote:Are we doing this again? Seriously? How many times is that now this year?
No, I'm really asking. I haven't been around much. But if I remember correctly, we had six or seven of these threads in 2014 alone.
I haven't seen any other thread question whether CCP is building the capital to start a new space game and can they actually pull it off? Would we support it through kickstarter or other community funding means? CCP cannot exist without eve, they have no other serious income. What is their plan? They saw the signs much earlier than we did but of course they won't say anything, it would only hurt their income even more. |

Baaldor
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion.
367
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:37:38 -
[52] - Quote
Magnus Orly wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: You and I both know he's not going to do that. People who post horrible UN-EVE-like ideas (who then recieve the natural criticism that comes with such a dumb idea) are always super touchy and immature. Those kinds of people have serious double standards, ie it's ok for me to say dumb thigns but if YOU say something I don't like, you're an idiot.
No use talking to people like that.
Oh Jenn, I was blind. I couldn't see. Ofcourse you are right. All my ideas...everything I write is UN-EVE like. In fact....I don't even have a right to play this game. How stupid of me. I will at once refrain from it. It is only you and your select group that really know how to play EVE. Hence I totally agree that the least they could do is to bully me in front of everyone here in the forums. I will bend over and give myself 10 lashes with my own belt now.
Oh this is going to be good, you flick this dudes ear and you have hours of entertainment. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11712
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:38:59 -
[53] - Quote
Magnus Orly wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: You and I both know he's not going to do that. People who post horrible UN-EVE-like ideas (who then recieve the natural criticism that comes with such a dumb idea) are always super touchy and immature. Those kinds of people have serious double standards, ie it's ok for me to say dumb thigns but if YOU say something I don't like, you're an idiot.
No use talking to people like that.
Oh Jenn, I was blind. I couldn't see. Ofcourse you are right. All my ideas...everything I write is UN-EVE like. In fact....I don't even have a right to play this game. How stupid of me. I will at once refrain from it. It is only you and your select group that really know how to play EVE. Hence I totally agree that the least they could do is to bully me in front of everyone here in the forums. I will bend over and give myself 10 lashes with my own belt now.
This is an example of a person's defense mechanisms at work. Rather than realize why you were wrong, and why people react to you the way they do (people probably do this to you in real life too), you find a way to lay the blame on others.
You are the only one at fault. You posted a stupid idea in a place where stupid ideas get lambasted. Then you display immature oversensitivity to the lambasting you should have known was coming because you should have known your idea was stupid before you posted it.
What was really funny is that one of out GD forum "Weakness enablers" came to your rescue in your thread, throwing you a lifeline rather than trying to help you understand where you went wrong so you can avoid this in the future. Stop being pitiful and this stops happening. |

Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
775
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:40:19 -
[54] - Quote
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Lan Wang wrote:all sounds really biased in my opinion, like you want something changed which caters to you only.
what exactly is your playstyle if you dont mind me asking? Quite the opposite I want the game to become significantly better, modernised (not easier just slicker) or just scrape it off and start new. I would hate to see Eve slowly die. I'm a wormholer. The change I mentioned affects mostly nullsec entities like PL but I know a bs change when I see one. Remiel Pollard wrote:Are we doing this again? Seriously? How many times is that now this year?
No, I'm really asking. I haven't been around much. But if I remember correctly, we had six or seven of these threads in 2014 alone. I haven't seen any other thread question whether CCP is building the capital to start a new space game and can they actually pull it off? Would we support it through kickstarter or other community funding means? There is one ON THE SECOND PAGE! It has almost the same title and it is locked!
You haven't found any, because you did not look!
Finally! Temperature dropped considerably and it's raining! I run outside cheering life itself, only wearing a tanktop and panties... and as the falling rain caresses my skin, I hear thunder announce the coming storm. Romantic times ahead...
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6625
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:40:38 -
[55] - Quote
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
I haven't seen any other thread question whether CCP is building the capital to start a new space game and can they actually pull it off? Would we support it through kickstarter or other community funding means?
I have a cool story for you, but it will probably need more dragons, so I'll try to squeeze some in.
Anyway, do you wanna know how to tell a newbie in EVE? It's easy. They ask questions on the forums that have been asked a thousand times before, don't know how to use the search feature, and as a result, have never seen said questions posted before.
Also, one day, there was a dragon, and it was eating CCP staff. So Goonswarm nuked it from orbit. It was the only way to be sure.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6625
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:41:57 -
[56] - Quote
Baaldor wrote:Magnus Orly wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: You and I both know he's not going to do that. People who post horrible UN-EVE-like ideas (who then recieve the natural criticism that comes with such a dumb idea) are always super touchy and immature. Those kinds of people have serious double standards, ie it's ok for me to say dumb thigns but if YOU say something I don't like, you're an idiot.
No use talking to people like that.
Oh Jenn, I was blind. I couldn't see. Ofcourse you are right. All my ideas...everything I write is UN-EVE like. In fact....I don't even have a right to play this game. How stupid of me. I will at once refrain from it. It is only you and your select group that really know how to play EVE. Hence I totally agree that the least they could do is to bully me in front of everyone here in the forums. I will bend over and give myself 10 lashes with my own belt now. Oh this is going to be good, you flick this dudes ear and you have hours of entertainment.
Almost as much fun as dangling a bottle of whiskey between two homeless people and making them battle to the death for it.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:42:26 -
[57] - Quote
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Lan Wang wrote:all sounds really biased in my opinion, like you want something changed which caters to you only.
what exactly is your playstyle if you dont mind me asking? Quite the opposite I want the game to become significantly better, modernised (not easier just slicker) or just scrape it off and start new. I would hate to see Eve slowly die. I'm a wormholer. The change I mentioned affects mostly nullsec entities like PL but I know a bs change when I see one. Remiel Pollard wrote:Are we doing this again? Seriously? How many times is that now this year?
No, I'm really asking. I haven't been around much. But if I remember correctly, we had six or seven of these threads in 2014 alone. I haven't seen any other thread question whether CCP is building the capital to start a new space game and can they actually pull it off? Would we support it through kickstarter or other community funding means? There is one ON THE SECOND PAGE! It has almost the same title and it is locked! You haven't found any, because you did not look! really you call that a thread? some rumbling about less ganking, better graphics and elite dangerous? |

embrel
BamBam Inc. Outlanders United
226
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:42:33 -
[58] - Quote
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:We had this thread yesterday already and it will get locked like the last one. How come? We're not allowed to talk about the possibility of a new game from CCP? No wonder these forums are desolate. its more like ranting, ccp is a company they make skins because microtransactions are a thing Overpriced micro transactions on a subscription based game is surely a sign of things going well financially for CCP 
You think a commercial enterprise suddenly decides "we've made enough money now"? The SKINs are certainly not an indication of imminent exitus, but rather of somebody having a sound business idea.
Many a company tries to milk it's customer base more than once. Seems quite reasonable actually. |

Baaldor
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion.
367
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:43:23 -
[59] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Baaldor wrote:Magnus Orly wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: You and I both know he's not going to do that. People who post horrible UN-EVE-like ideas (who then recieve the natural criticism that comes with such a dumb idea) are always super touchy and immature. Those kinds of people have serious double standards, ie it's ok for me to say dumb thigns but if YOU say something I don't like, you're an idiot.
No use talking to people like that.
Oh Jenn, I was blind. I couldn't see. Ofcourse you are right. All my ideas...everything I write is UN-EVE like. In fact....I don't even have a right to play this game. How stupid of me. I will at once refrain from it. It is only you and your select group that really know how to play EVE. Hence I totally agree that the least they could do is to bully me in front of everyone here in the forums. I will bend over and give myself 10 lashes with my own belt now. Oh this is going to be good, you flick this dudes ear and you have hours of entertainment. Almost as much fun as dangling a bottle of whiskey between two homeless people and making them battle to the death for it.
Kind of like tieing to two cats tails together and hanign them from a close line.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11712
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:44:34 -
[60] - Quote
Samir Duran Xadi wrote: really you call that a thread? some rumbling about less ganking, better graphics and elite dangerous?
Just because your thread isn't batshit crazy like that one was doesn't mean it's not about the same topic lol.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
775
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:48:33 -
[61] - Quote
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Lan Wang wrote:all sounds really biased in my opinion, like you want something changed which caters to you only.
what exactly is your playstyle if you dont mind me asking? Quite the opposite I want the game to become significantly better, modernised (not easier just slicker) or just scrape it off and start new. I would hate to see Eve slowly die. I'm a wormholer. The change I mentioned affects mostly nullsec entities like PL but I know a bs change when I see one. Remiel Pollard wrote:Are we doing this again? Seriously? How many times is that now this year?
No, I'm really asking. I haven't been around much. But if I remember correctly, we had six or seven of these threads in 2014 alone. I haven't seen any other thread question whether CCP is building the capital to start a new space game and can they actually pull it off? Would we support it through kickstarter or other community funding means? There is one ON THE SECOND PAGE! It has almost the same title and it is locked! You haven't found any, because you did not look! really you call that a thread? some rumbling about less ganking, better graphics and elite dangerous? What we think about it is irrelevant!
Finally! Temperature dropped considerably and it's raining! I run outside cheering life itself, only wearing a tanktop and panties... and as the falling rain caresses my skin, I hear thunder announce the coming storm. Romantic times ahead...
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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
36
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:51:40 -
[62] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote: Stop being pitiful and this stops happening.
No - it is you that must change yourselves. You are of a dying breed anyway so this is your last chance.
Repent! 
Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and-átrading.
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Gaellia Bonaventure
EVE University Ivy League
4217
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:56:03 -
[63] - Quote
One day these "Eve is dying" threads will actually appear when Eve is, you know, actually dying.
Today is not that day.
Bring your possibles.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
416
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:56:24 -
[64] - Quote
Im drunk. I giggled at everyone smacking these poor dudes ideas. It is the eve Ive come to know. Sure I dont agree with much of the smack but that doesnt mean I dont refrain from it from time to time myself.
Eve 2.0 huh? Yeah its an old topic really. The idea tht if CCP changes X or Y that eve will be better or suddenly awesome!! It wont. The basic game mechanics mean that to change the game so much would negate the idea of Eve itself. Itd be an entirely different game and thats just cool and silly all at the same time. We first started this game mining, shooting red crosses and metagaming. We still do these activities. An Eve 2.0 would need new basic gameplay and therefore NOT be Eve at all.
Do I sometimes sit around and go man I wish Eve was different? sure of course I do. Then I go play another game thats NOT Eve and feel alright. And then I come back to Eve for what it is. To wish its something different is akin to wishing life was different and more this or that, its not. There is no other option but death in that fact. Such, alas, is life. No matter how much you want it to be different. And to suggest otherwise is to invite flameage to the underpants of yourn. So wear asbestos underwear, youll need it.
To backpedal with this bunch is to invite infinite and immense terror and scorn.
I still want CCP to do something to "save" the game but at the same time its not about saving at all, more about providing me with more content. Something they technically dont HAVE to do. I figure 12 years is enough content. And for those of you that are bored at 6 months or 2 years. **** you!! Your noobs still!! If a moron like me can be entertained for 12 years with my demanding nature you cant say **** with your piddly oooooh its boring!! crap!! Yup I dislike some things that CCP is allowing or doing. Other things Im happy for. Im also alright with waiting and seeing what CCP is planning with this game in the way of updates and content. To throw my hands up in the air is stupid and I look at the people that do as morons in epic sense. Chicken Little!! Chicken Little!! Oh the sky is falling!! Sure theres a player count decrease, yup I understand it. I think about it and I continue to play... PLAY the game.
And I know that no matter how good or bad CCP is.... everything must end one day.
So Ill just drink my gin and juice and giggle at the funny posts. Cheers bitches!! 
Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace
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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
36
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:57:29 -
[65] - Quote
This is NOT an "EVE is dying" thread.
It is about being born again!
Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and-átrading.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6628
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:58:38 -
[66] - Quote
Magnus Orly wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: Stop being pitiful and this stops happening. No - it is you that must change yourselves. You are of a dying breed anyway so this is your last chance. Repent! 
I'm sorry, I just can't take you seriously until I've seen you sacrifice via self-destruct a ship of your choosing worth at least 1bil isk at the sun of your favourite solar system. Fraps it for me and put on YouTube, then we'll talk about who the dying breed is, the people enjoying a video game or the ones panicking over its ever-inevitable 'doom'.
Edit: changed 'demise' to 'doom'. Just has a better ring to it, don't you think?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
776
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:00:00 -
[67] - Quote
Magnus Orly wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: Stop being pitiful and this stops happening. No - it is you that must change yourselves. You are of a dying breed anyway so this is your last chance. Says the self entitled child that could not survive without police protection. With that behv'aviour and lack of a big brother, you'd either learn really fast or you don't get to learn it anymore. We e dieing breed, but you can't live on your own. 
Finally! Temperature dropped considerably and it's raining! I run outside cheering life itself, only wearing a tanktop and panties... and as the falling rain caresses my skin, I hear thunder announce the coming storm. Romantic times ahead...
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
935
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:00:39 -
[68] - Quote
sometimes when im alone i like to get naked, cover myself in dirt then run around the garden and pretend im a carrot.
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6628
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:02:22 -
[69] - Quote
Lan Wang wrote:sometimes when im alone i like to get naked, cover myself in dirt then run around the garden and pretend im a carrot.
I love carrots. Especially naked carrots.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
776
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:03:35 -
[70] - Quote
Lan Wang wrote:sometimes when im alone i like to get naked, cover myself in dirt then run around the garden and pretend im a carrot. Need a hole where you can ... dig in? ;)
Finally! Temperature dropped considerably and it's raining! I run outside cheering life itself, only wearing a tanktop and panties... and as the falling rain caresses my skin, I hear thunder announce the coming storm. Romantic times ahead...
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
416
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:11:47 -
[71] - Quote
Lan Wang wrote:sometimes when im alone i like to get naked, cover myself in dirt then run around the garden and pretend im a carrot. I have carrots in my garden!! Can I pull you up by your hair too when your "ready" to eat? You look kinda tasty!!
Or Ill just go to bed and dream of....redheads... mmm carrot top!!
aww **** Im drunk time to go home!!
Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6628
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:15:30 -
[72] - Quote
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Lan Wang wrote:sometimes when im alone i like to get naked, cover myself in dirt then run around the garden and pretend im a carrot. I have carrots in my garden!! Can I pull you up by your hair too when your "ready" to eat? You look kinda tasty!! Or Ill just go to bed and dream of....redheads... mmm carrot top!! aww **** Im drunk time to go home!! 
But... carrots have green leafy heads.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Count of MonteCylon
the Devout Order of the Vermillion Exhumers
57
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:16:16 -
[73] - Quote
I see three parts to the problem, I posted on two of them and got trolled a lot of course, but a major third part is that the player base is aging. Fewer and fewer people want to roam for 6 hours at a time before the action happens. EVE needs to acknowledge it has an aging core player base and that people don't want to invest the same amount of time they might have in the past.
How you reconcile that with "sandbox" I'm not sure besides to say that the size of null sec should probably be shrunken down by a lot and the economy likely needs an overhaul, these are the absolute minimums from my point of view.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. -- Ephesians 6:12
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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
36
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:17:16 -
[74] - Quote
Isn't spamming against forum rules? How many posts on carrots now and even quotes on carrots.........
From here on I will "like" every comment on the actual topic.
Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and-átrading.
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Baaldor
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion.
369
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:19:36 -
[75] - Quote
Magnus Orly wrote:Isn't spamming against forum rules? How many posts on carrots now and even quotes on carrots......... 
yes, so stop |

Baaldor
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion.
369
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:20:31 -
[76] - Quote
Count of MonteCylon wrote:I see three parts to the problem, I posted on two of them and got trolled a lot of course, but a major third part is that the player base is aging. Fewer and fewer people want to roam for 6 hours at a time before the action happens. EVE needs to acknowledge it has an aging core player base and that people don't want to invest the same amount of time they might have in the past.
How you reconcile that with "sandbox" I'm not sure besides to say that the size of null sec should probably be shrunken down by a lot and the economy likely needs an overhaul, these are the absolute minimums from my point of view.
Please give me an example of all these 6 hour roams EVERYONE is experiencing.
EDIT: I guess I am one of those aging core you speak of, Both in game and behind the keyboard. So please enlighten me as to my impending doom. |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6629
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:25:33 -
[77] - Quote
Magnus Orly wrote:Isn't spamming against forum rules? How many posts on carrots now and even quotes on carrots.........  From here on I will "like" every comment on the actual topic.
I suggest you look up the definition of spamming. What's happening here is not spamming, it's derailing. There is a difference. On that note, there's also a rule against redundant forum topics. Like this one.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
777
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:26:44 -
[78] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Magnus Orly wrote:Isn't spamming against forum rules? How many posts on carrots now and even quotes on carrots.........  From here on I will "like" every comment on the actual topic. I suggest you look up the definition of spamming. What's happening here is not spamming, it's derailing. There is a difference. On that note, there's also a rule against redundant forum topics. Like this one. Didn't he start the derailment?
Finally! Temperature dropped considerably and it's raining! I run outside cheering life itself, only wearing a tanktop and panties... and as the falling rain caresses my skin, I hear thunder announce the coming storm. Romantic times ahead...
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6631
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:31:01 -
[79] - Quote
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Magnus Orly wrote:Isn't spamming against forum rules? How many posts on carrots now and even quotes on carrots.........  From here on I will "like" every comment on the actual topic. I suggest you look up the definition of spamming. What's happening here is not spamming, it's derailing. There is a difference. On that note, there's also a rule against redundant forum topics. Like this one. Didn't he start the derailment?
I don't know who started it, all I know is I win at it. ^_^
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Lucy Lopez
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:34:37 -
[80] - Quote
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Lucy Lopez wrote:I see this thread attracted the usual predictable responses. No wonder most people post elsewhere now. Please take a look at reddit and good luck explaining how most of these people could EVER be considered a loss! 
There's a lot of shiptoasting there, but at least you can have a reasonably normal conversation without floods of forum dwellers ruining it with their 'gotta be a forum badass' routine. |

Lan Wang
V I R I I
938
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:37:07 -
[81] - Quote
Magnus Orly wrote:Isn't spamming against forum rules? How many posts on carrots now and even quotes on carrots.........  From here on I will "like" every comment on the actual topic.
you should be against the forum rules with your aggressive attitude 
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Vishanka
Starfighter Command Most Usual Suspects
24
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:40:26 -
[82] - Quote
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Overpriced micro transactions on a subscription based game is surely a sign of things going well financially for CCP  I don't really care why they do the skins, all I care about is: I love them, and I want them! So give more! 
Police Nemesis, anyone? |

Hengle Teron
Explosions Delivered with Love
54938
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:42:22 -
[83] - Quote
Can I make it in before the lock ? |

Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
36
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:50:07 -
[84] - Quote
Very funny Lan Wang, a true comedian. I am the victim here....not the bully.
The only thing that needs to be locked here is the millions of posts like this one
Quote:Can I make it in before the lock ?
I pray to god that this thread for once will not be locked so that these pathetic and pointless posts finally will be discovered for what they really are.
Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and-átrading.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
940
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:51:05 -
[85] - Quote
Hengle Teron wrote:Can I make it in before the lock ?
i didnt even expect it to go on this long after the carrot escapade
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Baaldor
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion.
372
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:56:02 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:Can I make it in before the lock ? i didnt even expect it to go on this long after the carrot escapade
it is Kleinur and coffee time for the PC police. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24184
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:57:09 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:pointless posts Irony...
Lan Wang wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:Can I make it in before the lock ? i didnt even expect it to go on this long after the carrot escapade CCP don't know what a carrot is, they're only familiar with sticks 
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
777
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:58:03 -
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Lucy Lopez wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Lucy Lopez wrote:I see this thread attracted the usual predictable responses. No wonder most people post elsewhere now. Please take a look at reddit and good luck explaining how most of these people could EVER be considered a loss!  There's a lot of shiptoasting there, but at least you can have a reasonably normal conversation without floods of forum dwellers ruining it with their 'gotta be a forum badass' routine. The masses dictate. The masses are stupid. Reddit has a layout better suited for conversations, but masses will downvote anything they dislike and masses are usually also pretty stupid.
I don't disagree with you, but the people you can have a conversation with are rare and plattform independent for the most part. I know we come across like wolves going ter easy pray, but have you ever considered how this all wouldn't happen, if people wouldn't make threads full of self entitled demands and whining, combined with complete ignorance of their environment?
Finally! Temperature dropped considerably and it's raining! I run outside cheering life itself, only wearing a tanktop and panties... and as the falling rain caresses my skin, I hear thunder announce the coming storm. Romantic times ahead...
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
942
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Posted - 2015.07.09 14:58:26 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:Very funny Lan Wang, a true comedian. I am the victim here....not the bully.
i love that!!! you are in my top 10 for todays internet winners 
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Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2015.07.09 15:00:54 -
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My thread! What have you done to it???  |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6632
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Posted - 2015.07.09 15:01:06 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:I am the victim here....
Of what, exactly?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
942
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Posted - 2015.07.09 15:02:53 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote:My thread! What have you done to it??? 
I am the victim here not you!
sorry i should stop now before i get roflstomped by the overlords that moderate this thing
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1024
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Posted - 2015.07.09 15:08:16 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote:My thread! What have you done to it???  You posted in GD.
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:... A new start without the outdated mechanics of Eve. ...
Could you please tell me, what mechanics you consider outdated?
Remove insurance.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6634
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Posted - 2015.07.09 15:09:08 -
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I wish I was a victim. Do you have any idea how much money I could make on Patreon with enough sympathy for my victimhood?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11714
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Posted - 2015.07.09 15:09:57 -
[95] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Magnus Orly wrote:I am the victim here.... Of what, exactly?
Himself. |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6634
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Posted - 2015.07.09 15:11:08 -
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Quote:Samir Duran Xadi wrote:... A new start without the outdated mechanics of Eve. ...
Could you please tell me, what mechanics you consider outdated?
Oh you know, the ones that aren't like literally every other game he plays because we don't need this unique crap that's like nothing else in existence. No, what we need is the same thing everywhere. That's why E3 had nothing but sequels and remakes this year, you know. Kids these days hate stuff that makes them think and learn or put in effort. They just want the same thing everywhere. Games these days are like Nokia phones - if you've used one, you've used them all.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Lucy Lopez
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2015.07.09 15:14:22 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:The masses dictate. The masses are stupid. Reddit has a layout better suited for conversations, but masses will downvote anything they dislike and masses are usually also pretty stupid.
I don't disagree with you, but the people you can have a conversation with are rare and plattform independent for the most part. I know we come across like wolves going ter easy pray, but have you ever considered how this all wouldn't happen, if people wouldn't make threads full of self entitled demands and whining, combined with complete ignorance of their environment?
I get what you're saying, but ultimately we're all responsible for our own behaviour.
I mean, you can either read a post and think, "Hmm pretty sure his topic has been done to death" and go read something else or point them to a duplicate thread, or you can post "IBTL oh look it's this thread again EVE is dying hurr durrrrrr". Choosing to do the latter merely makes the forum even worse.
I will now get off my soapbox. |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6635
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Posted - 2015.07.09 15:20:09 -
[98] - Quote
Lucy Lopez wrote:...makes the forum even worse.
Relevant.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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DaReaper
Net 7
2317
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Posted - 2015.07.09 16:10:13 -
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TL;DR
1) EVE is alreayd in 2.0 mode. Right now they are in Fix it mode. why people are too stupid to understand this i have no clue. In order for eve to expand you have to repair the base. Otherwise things get worse. Sure 'new space and new ways to play' would be interesting, but as Seagull said, inorder to do that, they have to repair the old tools so you can have new ways to play. New content with the same tools is pretty much the same crap we have just different colors.
2) eve is expanding.. if you don;t see that then you are blind.
3) Sheading of number righ now is not a huge cause for panic. We are most likly still seeing the dorp off from input broadcast and bot banns, as well as shifting of unnecessary cyno and other alts. 2015 is pretty much a yera of tranisition for eve. And we won;t know the full effects untill my guess is the end of next year.
4) CCP might be hedging its bets on Valk saving them, but i don;t think so. I feel Valk will be huge, and will actually hekp improve new eden int he long run. I also feel, that eve has something big coming, being worke don behind the scence, but again, we won;t see it till next year. My gues sis FF16 will be HUGE. But hey what to i know.
Summery: Patience, you have to fix broken **** before you cna expand. And it will get worse (shedding numbers) before it will get better. this COULD be a good thing, or it could be a bad thing, but we won;t know untill the end of 2016 when all is said and done (and no SC will not kill eve if you are htinking that)
Finally, reported for redundancy and being derailed
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
421
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Posted - 2015.07.09 16:14:26 -
[100] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Magnus Orly wrote:pointless posts Irony... Lan Wang wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:Can I make it in before the lock ? i didnt even expect it to go on this long after the carrot escapade CCP don't know what a carrot is, they're only familiar with sticks 
If you put a carot in the freezer for a day you can stab someone with it. |

Sarayu Wyvern
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2015.07.09 16:41:25 -
[101] - Quote
I guess the funny thing about these threads for me is a friend of mine told me after CCP Seagull first announced the move to the new Update system that it was going to cause some problems.
Not for game design, mind you, but that so many people are used to big releases twice a year spiking the player count back up predictably that the usual normal numbers persisting throughout the year was going to come with a dramatic increase in the number of "DOOM threads".
Seems like he was right, though I scoffed at the idea at the time.
The simple fact is that as the person who posted about Brain in a Box mentioned, not even the core code written back in 2003 is set in stone. As long as CCP is willing to tear up the old ground and build new foundations as they've shown they are, the game is in no danger of "dying out".
tl;dr stop posting these damn threads every few hours and just play the damn game
Alt of MidnightWyvern. (Mobius Wyvern in Dust 514)
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Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2015.07.09 17:50:53 -
[102] - Quote
DaReaper wrote:TL;DR
1) EVE is alreayd in 2.0 mode. Right now they are in Fix it mode. why people are too stupid to understand this i have no clue. In order for eve to expand you have to repair the base. Otherwise things get worse. Sure 'new space and new ways to play' would be interesting, but as Seagull said, inorder to do that, they have to repair the old tools so you can have new ways to play. New content with the same tools is pretty much the same crap we have just different colors.
2) eve is expanding.. if you don;t see that then you are blind.
3) Sheading of number righ now is not a huge cause for panic. We are most likly still seeing the dorp off from input broadcast and bot banns, as well as shifting of unnecessary cyno and other alts. 2015 is pretty much a yera of tranisition for eve. And we won;t know the full effects untill my guess is the end of next year.
4) CCP might be hedging its bets on Valk saving them, but i don;t think so. I feel Valk will be huge, and will actually hekp improve new eden int he long run. I also feel, that eve has something big coming, being worke don behind the scence, but again, we won;t see it till next year. My gues sis FF16 will be HUGE. But hey what to i know.
Summery: Patience, you have to fix broken **** before you cna expand. And it will get worse (shedding numbers) before it will get better. this COULD be a good thing, or it could be a bad thing, but we won;t know untill the end of 2016 when all is said and done (and no SC will not kill eve if you are htinking that)
Finally, reported for redundancy and being derailed
Too little too late mate. They could have done all that a long time ago but they were playing with dust bunnies and vampires. When you realise that is the main problem you'll be able to engage in a conversation with us. EVE is in no position to compete with modern games.
Valk cant be huge, it's made for a piece of hardware with 0 established userbase. All it can be is a decent prototype. |

Baaldor
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion.
375
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Posted - 2015.07.09 18:01:59 -
[103] - Quote
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:DaReaper wrote:TL;DR
1) EVE is alreayd in 2.0 mode. Right now they are in Fix it mode. why people are too stupid to understand this i have no clue. In order for eve to expand you have to repair the base. Otherwise things get worse. Sure 'new space and new ways to play' would be interesting, but as Seagull said, inorder to do that, they have to repair the old tools so you can have new ways to play. New content with the same tools is pretty much the same crap we have just different colors.
2) eve is expanding.. if you don;t see that then you are blind.
3) Sheading of number righ now is not a huge cause for panic. We are most likly still seeing the dorp off from input broadcast and bot banns, as well as shifting of unnecessary cyno and other alts. 2015 is pretty much a yera of tranisition for eve. And we won;t know the full effects untill my guess is the end of next year.
4) CCP might be hedging its bets on Valk saving them, but i don;t think so. I feel Valk will be huge, and will actually hekp improve new eden int he long run. I also feel, that eve has something big coming, being worke don behind the scence, but again, we won;t see it till next year. My gues sis FF16 will be HUGE. But hey what to i know.
Summery: Patience, you have to fix broken **** before you cna expand. And it will get worse (shedding numbers) before it will get better. this COULD be a good thing, or it could be a bad thing, but we won;t know untill the end of 2016 when all is said and done (and no SC will not kill eve if you are htinking that)
Finally, reported for redundancy and being derailed Too little too late mate. They could have done all that a long time ago but they were playing with dust bunnies and vampires. When you realise that is the main problem you'll be able to engage in a conversation with us. EVE is in no position to compete with modern games. Valk cant be huge, it's made for a piece of hardware with 0 established userbase. All it can be is a decent prototype.
Which modern games to be exact?
And who is 'us'?
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1025
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Posted - 2015.07.09 18:21:50 -
[104] - Quote
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:Too little too late mate. They could have done all that a long time ago but they were playing with dust bunnies and vampires. When you realise that is the main problem you'll be able to engage in a conversation with us. EVE is in no position to compete with modern games.
Modern games? I'm still looking foward to your list of outdated game mechanics. All you delivered so far were platypuses... oops sorry, I meant platitudes ofc.
Remove insurance.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
6095
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Posted - 2015.07.09 18:40:34 -
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EVE is dying!
Dibs on their stuff.
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