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Lustre
ISK Sink Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.30 12:32:00 -
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Hi Folks. It might be worthwhile starting a thread on which missions are worth salvaging since some of them will drop hundreds of wrecks which will always yield no salvage.
So far, I have done two that never yield anything:
- Zazzmattaz lvl 4 - no salvage (20 minutes to clear)
- Mordus Headhunters lvl 4 - no salvage (2-3 hours to clear )
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Shinshi Casoyako
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Posted - 2006.11.30 12:34:00 -
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Duo of death (guristas) and unautorized militairy presence (bloodraiders) dropped salvages
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Seriously Have I Not Said How I Can Assist Some One You Are Killing Online? |
Thalera Saldana
Minmatar
Oxymorons from Outer Space
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:07:00 -
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Guristas Extra (L3) has some salvage, but lots of "nothing to salvage" messages - gave it up as too time consuming and just looted the bc wrecks and storage silo.
Salvaging = what a waste of time
Thal
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Iudex
Caldari
CaIdari Navy
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:51:00 -
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Hehe, don't give up please, we want the rigs 
Come to irjunen, many high-end lvl 4 missionrunners here, that don't loot their missions. So if you can find wrecks with probes you have endless bs-wreck to salvage and don't have to kill anything yourself. If you cant find wrecks with scanner, ask some missionrunners to give you bookmarks of their missions, for a little fee they will, as they don't need it anyways. Doing missions and salvaging is maybe not so profitable, but if you specialize on salvaging so that you salvage bs all the time im sure you can make a lot of isk, expecially now, as everyone wants the rigs and noone sells 
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Rafe Poseidon
Caldari
Poseidon Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.30 14:40:00 -
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lvl 4 Stop the Thief -- No Salvage
What made it even worse was that it took several tries on almost all the wrecks to be told there was nothing to salvage.. This is with 1 salvager and lvl 3 salvaging skill.
This was very disappointing after I had about 80% salvage rate on the little frigs in a roid belt.
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Lustre
ISK Sink Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.30 14:44:00 -
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Has anyone managed to recover ANY salvage from ANY level 4 mission? I really don't want to waste any more time on these things... most frustrating.
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Shinshi Casoyako
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Posted - 2006.11.30 14:47:00 -
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see my post
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Seriously Have I Not Said How I Can Assist Some One You Are Killing Online? |
Ikanex
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Posted - 2006.11.30 14:53:00 -
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Pirate Invasion (Angels) - decent amount of salvage
Duo of Death (Angels) - Salvage from the battleships, but Spider Drones DO NOT drop any
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Lustre
ISK Sink Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.30 14:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Shinshi Casoyako
see my post
Thanks dude. Wasn't sure if it was lvl 4.
/me relieved.
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Sumayyah
Minmatar
Dynamic Endeavors
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Posted - 2006.11.30 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Sumayyah on 30/11/2006 15:34:57
Only done 2 lvl 4 missions so far:
- Stop the Thied: Yeilded no salavagable items
- The Assult: Yeilded some salvageable items but not as many as belt rates
As I do missions I will edit posts with my results
Also would be nice if a Dev or someone would replay to this post on if this is how they want salvaring to be, ie crap from mission runners and ok for belt hunters. In other words rigs will be very expensive and relativly rare at this rate because salvaging sucks.
I'm an ! I will always be an ! that is all I have to say |
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Medium SecureContainer
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Posted - 2006.11.30 15:38:00 -
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What I found out so far:
By flying Missions in Minmatar Space, I could only Salvage from Wrecks that
where either from enemys flying minmatar (Gist/Angel) or gallente (serp)
Ships. From 4 Missions with Caldary Ships (Mercs/Mordus) I didn't get
a single Piece from Salvaging....
If it is what it looks like.., no chance to build amarr/ calda rigs here anytime
cause the salvaged parts are also racial specific.
Thank you CCP for that Crap, cause the Loot also totaly sucks when 80% of
all Wrecks don't even have "regular" Loot anymore.
ah, and btw: Wrecks from Drones and Buildings (Sentrys f.e.) do also
not contain salvageable Stuff.
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Mikal Drey
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Posted - 2006.11.30 15:41:00 -
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hey hey
got 3 ! items in about 4 L3 missions so far.
Belt rats have dropped more and are dropping 1 item per wreck
sucess of wreck is 50/50 pretty much on the dot.
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Alejandro Zapata
Minmatar
PAK
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Posted - 2006.11.30 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Alejandro Zapata on 30/11/2006 15:49:28
Originally by: Medium SecureContainer
Thank you CCP for that Crap, cause the Loot also totaly sucks when 80% of
all Wrecks don't even have "regular" Loot anymore.
This is incorrect. I completed Mordus Headhunters and looted every single wreck. Every wreck had loot. Got that? EVERY can had loot. I collected 2800m3 of loot.
Has anyone tried to use the Salvage Tacks to see if they can draw salvage from wrecks that may otherwise not yield anything?
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Miri Tirzan
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.30 15:57:00 -
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Well, here is what I have found so far. Merc have great loot but nothing to salvage. I have gotten salvage out of mission NPCs but those missions there were many wrecks with no loot or salvage but a few had salvage.
I think salvage is broken. Player ships will drop scrap metal even nothing else is salvagable, NPC ships should do the same.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Elena Lanfear
Crafty Productions
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Posted - 2006.11.30 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Elena Lanfear on 30/11/2006 16:13:34
I salvaged so far around 20-25 parts out of a "The blockade" mission (Lv 3) and around 40 from "The Score" (Level 4). All in Minmatar space.
Ah, and Massive Attack (Level 3) yields too... *is salvaging this atm*
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Sumayyah
Minmatar
Dynamic Endeavors
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Posted - 2006.11.30 17:05:00 -
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I'm wondering if NPC's you can find at belts drop salvageble itmes and the NPC's you only find in Missions do not drop anything.
So I ask this people when salvaging have you received anything from say Merc's, any of the faction ie Ammar, Gal, Cal, Minmatar.
OR are you only getting salvageble items from an NPC that you might be able to find in a belt in some region?
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Selthae
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.30 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Selthae on 30/11/2006 17:36:43
lvl4 War Situation, 3/4: No salvage
lvl4 War Situation, 4/4: No Salvage
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Elena Lanfear
Crafty Productions
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Posted - 2006.11.30 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Elena Lanfear on 30/11/2006 17:56:33
The Spy stash (Level 3) - 18 parts
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Alfragide
Nova Lusitania
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Posted - 2006.11.30 18:33:00 -
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Not directly a mission post but it may come of intrest...
I found a Dread guristas wreck in an asteroid belt had salvaging to lvl 2 yday and couldnt survey the wreck!!!!
Some message telling me i couldnt....have u guys found a faction wreck from ur missions and tried to salvage it?
Donno why and was just wondering..
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PhamNuwen
Caldari
Bungee Jumper
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Posted - 2006.11.30 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: PhamNuwen on 30/11/2006 18:36:48
Intercept Pirate Smuggler Lvl3 -> nothing
Storyline AngelStrike 1/10 Lvl3 -> nothing
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.11.30 18:44:00 -
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basically this can be summarized as -
"open space mission" - belt npcs which only appear in belts and in missions near gate or station (and in certain missions that were removed anyway) - lots of salvage
deadspace missions - crappy rats with reduced bounty and loot made specially for mission runners coz they face no risk - low chance of salvage from BS, basically next to no salvage.
although as now any folk with lvl3 in certain skill can warp to any mission runner, I don't see why not add salvage to all low sec mission npcs...
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.30 19:09:00 -
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Worlds Collide (Guristas/Serpentis) and Vengeance (Guristas) both gave salvaged items. I'm going to start a thread with what I've picked up so far so people can see the relative rarity of items in an attempt to set pricing for them.
Of course I'd assum that salvaging BS wrecks be harder than frigates...anyone who's done any hacking/archaeology work will be well used to how the system works.
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.11.30 19:17:00 -
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Doesn't this depend very much on the salvaging skills of those who tried? A list without the skills used doesn't look very useful then.
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Eragon Mysdrial
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Posted - 2006.11.30 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus
Doesn't this depend very much on the salvaging skills of those who tried? A list without the skills used doesn't look very useful then.
I beleive that skills affect how often you get the "You suck too much to salvage this time. Please try again." message, not whether there actually is or isn't salvage in the wreck.
Would perhaps be more interesting if every wreck had "X" number of salvage points, and if you could successfully salvage under that time, would get salvage, otherwise wouldn't. I don't believe it works this way right now, however.
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Jimblob
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.30 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jimblob on 30/11/2006 19:41:58
Silence the informant lvl 4
Using salvage skill at 2.
stage 1 rogue drones produce no salvage components.
stage 2 Mercs produce no salvage components.
Wondering what the **** point of having wrecks for rats that don't drop any salvage parts is.
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.30 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jimblob
Wondering what the **** point of having wrecks for rats that don't drop any salvage parts is.
LOL. You didn't figure that part out yet? It's because pirates whined that it was too quick and easy too make money whoring level 4's. Apparently we can make 21 billion in three months (that's NOT an exaggeration, some guy ACTUALLY posted that as the figure)
My agent must really hate me...keeps giving me the ****ty low end missions 
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.11.30 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lustre
10.The Blockade lvl 3 - 20-25 parts
I got exactly 45 parts from lvl 3 Blockade yesterday (Guristas). Lvl 3 salvage skill w/4 salvagers.
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Kyreax
Gallente
Rising Sun Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:42:00 -
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Midst of Deadpace part 1/5
NO SALVAGE WHATSOEVER. Salvaged everything. Salvage level 3 and Salvager I
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.11.30 23:02:00 -
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L4 Stop the Thief - no salvage
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The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing.
by Sharkbait | 2006.09.20 |
Medium SecureContainer
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Posted - 2006.11.30 23:46:00 -
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I still think it depends on the Region / Fraction thingy
In Minma Space I still couldnt get any Salvage
from any Caldary / Amarr Ship (NPC)
but from those mixture Ships like Sansha's
and to the Question of the Dread Gurista Spawn:
since u need Salvaging LvL 3 to salvage
from a Tech II Ship (Wreck), I think it will be same with
those "higher ranking" NPC's
U might also have noticed that it takes longer to salvage from
a "named" mission NPC or in Belt from the arch angels f.e.
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Fergus Runkle
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Posted - 2006.12.01 01:20:00 -
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Level 3 Republic Fleet agent
Missing Reporters parts 1, 2 and 3 - no salvage
The Blockade - good salvage
Retribution (Serpentis) - fair salvage
Spy Stash - fair salvage
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Skarraza
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Posted - 2006.12.01 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Skarraza on 01/12/2006 02:30:09
Edited by: Skarraza on 01/12/2006 02:26:18
L3 Angel Extra: 15-20 pieces, maybe a little more. I mixed them all up with stuff I had from before without counting.
This doesn't include the bonus mission since I didn't bother with it.
All in all, I'd prefer they change it so that it either finds something, or it pops the wreck. Give us additional skills to train to improve our odds. On the test server I salvaged a shadow serp cruiser wreck and it took over 8 MINUTES with Salvage 3. I think I had two salvage tackle rigs at that point too. and NOTHING.
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Alejandro Zapata
Minmatar
PAK
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Posted - 2006.12.01 02:44:00 -
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Has anyone managed to find any Salvage Tacks? If so, have you noticed any difference in the amount/frequency of salvage?
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Crystalyne
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Posted - 2006.12.01 04:31:00 -
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salvage tackles have tobe built just like all theother rigs .. one day son they will start showing up
I have the BPO .. just not the stuff to build them yet.
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.01 08:16:00 -
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Salvaged two commander's wrecks in empire belts, it took forever even with 4 salvagers, and I got exactly nothing from both of them. Ditto on a hauler spawn wreck.
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Gentzen
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.01 08:32:00 -
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Lvl4 Rouge Drone Harassment -> nothing
Lvl4 Vengeance (Sansha) -> 48 parts
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Carniflex
Caldari
StarHunt
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Posted - 2006.12.01 08:37:00 -
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So far it seems, that Rogue drones, rogue pirates and merchenaries do not yeld any salvage. For a full day of doing lev 4 missions and salvaging them got around 60 gadgets. Looting and salvaging takes usually a bit more than doing the mission itself with destroyer with 4 tractors and 4 salvager modules.
It was in Caldary faction space.
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Veryez
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:31:00 -
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Silence the informant level 4 - nothing (46 minutes to kill npc's - 2 hours to finish salvage  )
The blockade (lvl 2) - 32 rig parts
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Lars Vegas
Cosmology
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:51:00 -
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Lvl 4 Vengeance (Serpentis): 62 parts
with salvaging lvl 3
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Shayla Etherodyne
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Posted - 2006.12.01 10:48:00 -
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Angel extravaganza level 4 - a little more than30 parts with salvager 3 and 2 salvager I
As someone has suggested I think only NPC you can find in belt drop salvage.
So far Drones, Navy (froms different factions), Mercenaries, Mordu, named NPC, Core Admirals have given nothing to me, while Serpentis frigates and cruisers give a decent chance of salvage.
The true salvager : semi-afk miners in high sec belt with drone as defence. When you come with the industrial to recover the minerals from the jetcans you can recover the salvage from the killed rats. Usually a hour of mining in a 0.5-0.8 system means 3-6 killed rats. As they have a good chance of salvage that is 2-4 components.
Ridicul but true.
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Lustre
ISK Sink Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.01 12:23:00 -
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Bump - list updated.
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Shinshi Casoyako
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:25:00 -
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3. Duo of death (guristas) - no salvage
This did salvage, as I posted before, lvl 4 mission that is.
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Sumayyah
Minmatar
Dynamic Endeavors
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Sumayyah on 01/12/2006 14:36:50
Looking from what we have so far it looks like mission/complex NPC do not drop salvageable materials.
Sorry only Belt NPC's that you can find in mission and belts?
Deve answer bugged yes/no?
I'm an ! I will always be an ! that is all I have to say |
Elrich Zann
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:52:00 -
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Dowing the slavers 2/2 lvl 4 gives salvage
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B'Ellana Torres
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:12:00 -
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The Storyline mission 'Shipyard Theft' gives a decent amount of parts (Guristas version). I can confirm that drones drop no salvageable parts.
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Gentzen
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:51:00 -
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lvl4 unauthorized military presence (Bloodraider)- 22parts
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Lonekiller
Minmatar
Itchy logistics
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Posted - 2006.12.01 18:37:00 -
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Retribution (angel) lvl 3 - 10 part |
Issalzul
Canadian Coalition of Players
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Posted - 2006.12.01 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: Issalzul on 01/12/2006 21:07:31
lv4 In the Midst of Deadspace, 5/5 one part.
Lots of metal scraps.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 01/12/2006 23:07:29
L3 Pirate Invasion (caldari vs guristas) - 32 parts (10 MSE, 11 STP, 9 WC, 1 BLC, 1 CMC)
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Nekkro Taal
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:32:00 -
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Lvl4 Guristas Extra inc bonus 103 items
Lvl4 Vengence (Gur) 53 items
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herot
Icarus Ascendant
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Posted - 2006.12.02 00:21:00 -
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"The rogue Slave Trader" mission (lvl4) gives some salvage but not much.
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Wadaya
Caldari
Tok'Ra Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.02 02:00:00 -
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Sadly, I don't think it has anything to do with with which mission. It seems to be faction oriented. Drones (missions and complexes), Gallente, Mercenaries;none of these drop loot, no matter where they are: belts, missions, complexes doesn't matter. Posted a bug report, so maybe it will be looked at eventually.
Wad
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.12.02 06:02:00 -
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It appears like ONLY player and pirate ships drop any components.
Navy ships (all 4 races), mercs, drones and even Thukker ships don't seem to drop ANY components, EVER.
Furthermore, what components and what chance for each seems to be only linked to "type" of wreck you salvage (small/med/large) and not actual ship you salvage (i.e. the "name" of the wreck).
Somehow, I get the feeling that "what you get" is computed upon succesfull salvage, not upon wreck creation, and it can be anything from none of the components up to all of the possible components.
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Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.02 15:40:00 -
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I ran "Whispers in the Dark" 4 of 4, a Level 2 storyline mission with about 40 different Sansha spawns that I killed using a frigate. With a skill of only Salvaging 1, but using 6 Salvage Units, I had more than a 50% success rate in salvaging, and netted the following items:
9 Contaminated Nanite Compounds
8 Defective Current Pumps
4 Armor Plates
3 Fried Interface Circuits
1 Burned Logic Circuit
1 Tripped Power Circuit
and a Partridge in a Pear Tree.
Seriously, I would not be surprised to learn that certain spawns dropped more of a particular type of salvage item. It would be worthwhile seeing what specific items you got off specific type of NPCs. Also make sure you mention the number of Salvage Units you use as well as your skill. It will help detect patterns. |
Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.02 17:02:00 -
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On the Level 2 mission "The Seven's Brothel," I had the skill Salvaging 2 and used 6 Salvage Units on 8 wrecks of Seven-faction spacecraft (ie, mercenaries). While 6 of the 8 salvage attempts were ultimately successful, in every case, I was informed that there was no salvage material to be obtained.
The theory that mercenary NPCS do not yield salvage has not been disproven. I agree with others who suspect that there may be a bug in the drop rate for these NPCs. |
Shayla Etherodyne
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Posted - 2006.12.02 17:28:00 -
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I have got salvage mostly from serpentis ships and some corelis, lot of contaminated lorentz fluid, later I will put a list.
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Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.02 19:35:00 -
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On the Level 2 mission "Avenge a Fallen Comrade," I had the skill Salvaging 2 and used 6 Salvage Units on 19 wrecks of Blood Raider pirate spacecraft. While only 2 attempts were outright failures, about 10 were successful salvage attempts that yielded no materials. However, there were about 6-7 successful salvage attempts which yielded the following items:
3 Contaminated Nanite Compounds
3 Melted Capacitor Consoles
3 Tangled Power Conduits
Score another one for salvaging pirate wrecks.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.02 19:39:00 -
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Pirate Slaughter l4 Guristas - Freaking loads, near 100 pieces picked up with salvaging lvl1.
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing.
RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
FalconHawk
Amarr
Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.02 21:49:00 -
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not realy a mission, but amarr cosmos plexes only have scrap metal in the wrecks ..
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.12.03 10:48:00 -
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Pirate Business (L4) for Thukker Tribe against the Minmatar Republic in Molden Heath:
Salvaged 4 rig parts and 54 scrap metals.
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The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing.
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Ulvenstein
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:03:00 -
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You can add The Blockade lvl 2 to the list. I've run it once, and it yielded about 25-30 parts. |
herot
Icarus Ascendant
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:33:00 -
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Smuggler Interception, lvl4 (Angels) - 54 units in Salvage
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OneSock
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Posted - 2006.12.03 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Crystalyne
salvage tackles have tobe built just like all theother rigs .. one day son they will start showing up
I have the BPO .. just not the stuff to build them yet.
Good point. I am seeing very few sales of charred micro circuit and very few contaminated nanite compound sales.
Given that you need ~100 of them per BPO run, and prices are about 500k isk a unit you are going to be looking at one very expensive rig.
I reckon the drop tables are borked.
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Qinoly
Gallente
Remember Redemption
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Posted - 2006.12.03 15:45:00 -
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Right hand of Zzazmatazblabla lvl 4 - No salvage.
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Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.03 18:32:00 -
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On the Level 2 mission "Avenge a Fallen Comrade," I had the skill Salvaging 3 and used 6 Salvage Units on 20 wrecks of Guristas pirate spacecraft.
While 0 attempts were outright failures, 13 were successful salvage attempts that yielded no materials. However, there were 7 successful salvage attempts which yielded the following items:
3 Scorched Telemetry Processors
3 Malfunctioning Shield Emitters
1 Fried Interface Circuit
Score another one for salvaging pirate wrecks, but deduct a lot of points for a system that is not very much fun and which wastes a lot of time on wrecks with nothing salvageable in the first place. |
B'Ellana Torres
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Posted - 2006.12.03 23:57:00 -
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The level 4 version of Gurisas Extravaganza dropped salvage from about 60% of the wrecks (84 parts from 164 wrecks). The Guristas Spies (again level 4) netted almost 100% salvage (20 out of 21).
It may have been mentioned already but no building, structure, sentry gun or missile battery drops any salvageable parts.
Silence the Informant - no salvage.
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Jet Collins
Dynamic Endeavors
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Posted - 2006.12.04 13:33:00 -
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Bump for Good info, for Devs and more 
Also note that in the POsts teh opening post is mission Infeltrated out post which drops no salvagables
and Worlds Collide Angles and Sasha does drop salvagables.
Dynamic Endeavors is now Recuiting.!!
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Jet Collins
Dynamic Endeavors
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Posted - 2006.12.04 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jet Collins on 04/12/2006 18:05:46
I have a question though...
Has anyone done much salvaging in cosmos areas? Are the NPC's in these mission droping Salvagable matterials?
Thanks for the feed back if given.
Dynamic Endeavors is now Recuiting.!!
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.04 22:51:00 -
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Lustre...any chance you could edit your post, just putting missions that can be salvaged first, missions that can't after...i.e.
Salvage;
1....
2....
3....
No salvage
1....
2....
3....
Just might make it easier to read
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Carvott Milanis
Rakeriku
Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2006.12.04 23:40:00 -
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Downing the Slavers 4 - Sanshas
Drops quite nicely from 30% of loot. All the bs's and half the bcs dropped.
Anyone got any nice ship setups for salvaging?
Do you combine a looter with a salvager, or make a dedicated salvaging ship?
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Annuke
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.05 03:50:00 -
[71]
Success Comes At A Price Lvl 3
Salvage lvl 4
got 2 items.
This all might be changing with patch....see what happens.
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Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.05 20:43:00 -
[72]
DECEMBER 5 POST PATCH SALVAGE ATTEMPT:
On the Level 2 mission "Smuggler Interception" (which may be a new mission, since I have never run it previously, and since it does not appear on www.eveinfo.com), I had the skill Salvaging 3 and used 6 Salvage Units on 18 wrecks of Sansha pirate spacecraft.
While 0 attempts were outright failures, 11 were successful salvage attempts that yielded no materials. However, there were 7 successful salvage attempts which yielded the following items:
2 Armor Plates
2 Contaminated Nanite Compounds
1 Charred Micro Circuit
1 Defective Current Pump
1 Tripped Power Circuit
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CONCLUSION:
Score yet another one for salvaging pirate wrecks. However, the patch is a serious disappointment. Other than a cosmetic change that shows which wrecks have been looted, there appears to be no discernible improvement to salvaging overall. The salvage system as-is is still a tedious bore - it took roughly 4 times as long to salvage the wrecks as it did to complete the mission. Moreover, the drop rate for salvage materials is appallingly low. The price of rig BPOs indicates that these are supposed to be common enhancements - as do rig slots on T1 ships - but the drop rate simply won't be able to meet the supply required to make that a reality.
SUGGESTIONS:
1) Increase the salvage material drop rate
2) Create a single command that loots and activates all Salvage Units at one time. This will eliminate about 4-10 mouseclicks for each wreck to be salvaged.
3) Do not spawn a wreck if there is no loot inside and no chance to salvage any materials from it. You never used to spawn empty jet cans after a ship exploded - why spawn a wreck if there's nothing inside it?
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Kodath
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:05:00 -
[73]
Foil The Military Preperations lvl 4 vs Caldari - no salvage
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AOnoff
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:41:00 -
[74]
Smuggler interception Lev4 (Blood Raider) - 49 parts
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Jim Sharpe
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Posted - 2006.12.06 02:05:00 -
[75]
I agree with Tuco.
Before Revelations, ships didn't drop empty cans.
With Revelations there shouldn't be all these wrecks that have no loot and no salvage.. they are just time sinks.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2006.12.06 03:24:00 -
[76]
lvl 3 Tech Secrets 1of3 gave no salvage.
lvl 3 Spy Stash yielded 15-20.
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TheAzazel
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Posted - 2006.12.06 03:41:00 -
[77]
I agree with Tuco too, I dont want to have empty wreck!! is something useless and what about my time?.
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Philip Jones
Gallente
Bridgeburners 9TH Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.06 04:32:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Philip Jones on 06/12/2006 04:34:40
Blockade lvl 3 yielded these items, with 4 Salvager 1:
Conductive Polymer: 12
Contaminated Lorentz Fluid: 15
Malfunctioning Shield Emitter: 8
Broken Drone Transmitter: 7
Charred Micro Circuit: 2
Fried Interface Circuit: 1
Burned Logic Circuits: 2
Damaged Artificial: 1
Tripped Power Circuit: 1
though about 10 wrecks disappeared while i was salvaging though 
Loot >>> Not worth mentioning lol
*Edit on a side note, I dont want to sell, but am willing to swap 2X / 3X Componenets for each rig if some1 will make me them for personal use.
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sonofollo
Caldari
5th Front enterprises
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.06 04:33:00 -
[79]
loot is affected by the security status of the system youre agent is in high sec = less loot than low sec and 0.0
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Sobach
Gallente
Fourth Circle
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Posted - 2006.12.06 04:43:00 -
[80]
I run missions in lowsec, the number of loot in most missions are negligible these days :/
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Philip Jones
Gallente
Bridgeburners 9TH Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.06 05:04:00 -
[81]
The Seven's Prison Facility Lvl 3 - Nothing
on a side note, I dont want to sell, but am willing to swap 2X / 3X Componenets for each rig if some1 will make me them for personal use.
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Philip Jones
Gallente
Bridgeburners 9TH Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:55:00 -
[82]
The Serpentis Spies Level 3
Conductive Polymer: 2
Contaminated Lorentz Fluid: 5
Malfunctioning Shield Emitter: 2
Broken Drone Tranciever: 1
Fried Interface Circuit: 1
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.06 10:09:00 -
[83]
Guristas Extravaganza level 4 - 50 or so items of salvage, including the bonus stage (I have salvage to level 4)...bear in mind that's only 10 or so items per waypoint, so not exactly wonderful.
I think there's a need to look deeper into this...structures NEVER seem to give salvage...maybe we should start recording what we get from the actual named wreck? Guristas seem to heavily favour Scorched Telemetry Processors and Malfunctioning Shield Emitters...I'm 100% certain there's a racial bias to what you get.
Sounds like it's spreadsheet time again!
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Rooky2001
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Posted - 2006.12.06 10:55:00 -
[84]
LVL3 The Score
Stage 1: 10 parts salvaged
Stage 2: 15 parts salvaged
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Pakokkie
Caldari
Under Heavy Fire
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Posted - 2006.12.06 10:57:00 -
[85]
Mission stop the thief L 4 :
Salvageable wrecks 0
Loot: very good
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Contralto
Usagi Research
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Posted - 2006.12.06 11:14:00 -
[86]
lvl 4 Storyline "Shipyard Theft" 1 Tractor, One Salvager, Salvaging lvl 1, at least 3 hours start to finish. Used Domi for combat, looting and salvaging. slightly more than a full load of loot ie 650 m3
29 parts of which several were intact versions. Drops were from all types and sizes of ship, Some 1 mill plus bounty BS dropped neither loot or salvage Some Elite frigs dropped both, as did the lowly Catalyst soldiers. Tried the structure wrecks but just kept on cycling with no end so aborted after 5 minutes.
DT now so will list after.
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Zaiyo Modi
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Posted - 2006.12.06 12:10:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Zaiyo Modi on 06/12/2006 12:11:02
My lvl 4 "Pirate Slaughter" (angels in 0.6 space) yielded 56 rig components.
Flew around salvaging in a Cormorant, fitted with 2 tractors beams and 6 salvage modules.
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Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.06 17:36:00 -
[88]
On the Level 2 mission "Seek and Destroy," I had the skill Salvaging 3 and used 6 Salvage Units on 5 wrecks of Guristas pirate spacecraft.
While 0 attempts were outright failures, 4 were successful salvage attempts that yielded no materials. However, there was 1 successful salvage attempts which yielded the following item:
1 Malfunctioning Shield Emitter
Look more and more likely that Guristas spawn more of the Shield-related gear, which makes sense. However, I still object to the idea of successfully salvaging yet receiving no salvage materials. Wrecks should not spawn if there is no chance of successfully salvaging from them. |
Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.06 17:58:00 -
[89]
On the Level 2 mission "Save a Man's Career," I had the skill Salvaging 3 and used 6 Salvage Units on wrecks of 6 Rogue Drones, 1 Cargo Rig, and 1 Mercenary spacecraft.
While 0 attempts were outright failures, ALL 8 were successful salvage attempts that yielded no materials.
I am inclined to believe that Drones, at least, are still not dropping anything, and that the loot tables are still not fixed. Not good. |
Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.06 18:24:00 -
[90]
On the Level 2 mission "The Guristas Spies," I had the skill Salvaging 3 and used 6 Salvage Units on 10 wrecks of Guristas pirate spacecraft.
While 0 attempts were outright failures, 6 were successful salvage attempts that yielded no materials. However, there were 4 successful salvage attempts which yielded the following items:
3 Malfunctioning Shield Emitters
3 Scorched Telemetry Processors
This offers yet another confirmation that pirate factions generate at least some salvage, though still a meager amount if salvaging is to be a satisfying newbie profession and if rigs are to ever become the commonplace, newbie-friendly items they appeared to be during the design process. |
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Jet Collins
Dynamic Endeavors
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Posted - 2006.12.06 18:50:00 -
[91]
Hey Tuco Santeriia that pretty implsive that when you salvage your scanners have a succesuff salvage on the first try.
That pretty good lvl 3.
Generally mine go though a few cycles before having a successful Salvage.
Dynamic Endeavors is now Recuiting.!!
Contact me in game for deatails about the corp.
Mostly a PvE corp, with Jump clones avaiale in Empire and 0.0. |
Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.06 18:50:00 -
[92]
On another run through the Level 2 mission "The Guristas Spies," I had the skill Salvaging 3 and used 6 Salvage Units on 8 wrecks of Guristas pirate spacecraft.
While 0 attempts were outright failures, 6 were successful salvage attempts that yielded no materials. However, there were 2 successful salvage attempts which yielded the following items:
2 Scorched Telemetry Processors
1 Malfunctioning Shield Emitters
Patterns are holding. |
Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.06 18:55:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Jet Collins
Hey Tuco Santeriia that pretty implsive that when you salvage your scanners have a succesuff salvage on the first try.
That pretty good lvl 3.
Generally mine go though a few cycles before having a successful Salvage.
Actually, I click all 6 units so that they are working at the same time, and in the vast majority of instances where I eventually get a salvage item, the first notice I get is that the salvage attempt was a failure - then I guess one of the other units saves the day and gets a successful salvage. I do get some successes on the first try, but I'd say it's only about 10% of the time I get any salvage materials, and certainly less than 5% out of all the wrecks I salvage. |
Jet Collins
Dynamic Endeavors
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Posted - 2006.12.06 19:04:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Tuco Santeriia
Originally by: Jet Collins
Hey Tuco Santeriia that pretty implsive that when you salvage your scanners have a succesuff salvage on the first try.
That pretty good lvl 3.
Generally mine go though a few cycles before having a successful Salvage.
Actually, I click all 6 units so that they are working at the same time, and in the vast majority of instances where I eventually get a salvage item, the first notice I get is that the salvage attempt was a failure - then I guess one of the other units saves the day and gets a successful salvage. I do get some successes on the first try, but I'd say it's only about 10% of the time I get any salvage materials, and certainly less than 5% out of all the wrecks I salvage.
OK cool had ot say something because as long as you leave the modual on you will eventually get a succesfull salvage. Don't need to have all 5 moduals on one wreak.
My suggestion for time would be to get as many tractor beams as salvages, have oen of each one as many wreaks have your have. If you have only one wreak than sure by all means 5 slavages.
Just telling you because you will not get more materials for having 5 modsuals on one wreak. You just salvage the wreak sooner.
Dynamic Endeavors is now Recuiting.!!
Contact me in game for deatails about the corp.
Mostly a PvE corp, with Jump clones avaiale in Empire and 0.0. |
Curzon Dax
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.06 19:04:00 -
[95]
Rogue Slave Traders (part 1 and 2) have salvage. The turrets and launchers in part 2 of the mission (deadspace) do not...don't bother salvaging them.
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Samantha Astuto
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Posted - 2006.12.06 20:23:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Samantha Astuto on 06/12/2006 20:23:02
Enemies Abound Part 1 (L4)- no salvage
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Allen Deckard
Gallente
LFC
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.06 20:30:00 -
[97]
out of currosity anyone tried lvl 1 or 2 missions?
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Akira2501
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Posted - 2006.12.06 21:17:00 -
[98]
Illegal Activity (1 of 3) (lvl3) - nothing
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Zissou
5 November
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Posted - 2006.12.06 21:27:00 -
[99]
Pirate Slaughter (Guristas) - some salvage. |
Tratok Aran
Alternative Technologies
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Posted - 2006.12.06 21:38:00 -
[100]
The Sansha Spies (4th level) - some salvage
P.S. Also it could help if you'd sort list of missions alphabetically.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.12.06 22:17:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Zissou
Pirate Slaughter (Guristas) - some salvage.
I did this one lvl 4 and got almost 80 pieces of salvage is that decent at all ?
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Von Krieg
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Posted - 2006.12.06 22:46:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Von Krieg on 06/12/2006 22:57:57
The Score lvl 3 - around 21 parts
The Guristas Spies lvl 3 - around 5 parts.
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Stephar
The High Priest
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Posted - 2006.12.06 23:22:00 -
[103]
These are level 2 missions, with level 3 salvaging (no tackle). Listed first is the number of components salvaged from all wrecks:
14 - Smuggler Interception (Angel)
4 - Smuggler Interception (Angel)
7 - The Score (Serpentis)
6 - The Score (Serpentis)
5 - Unauthorized Military Presence (Angel)
5 - Unauthorized Military Presence (Angel)
5 - Seek and Destroy (Angel)
4 - Angel Cartel Spies (Angel)
3 - Angel Cartel Spies (Angel)
0 - Drone Infestation (Drone)
0 - Hidden Stash (Angel)
0 - Mordus Headhunters (Mordus)
0 - Eliminate Pirate Campers (Thukker)
0 - Stop the Thief (Merc)
0 - Stop the Thief (Merc)
0 - The Seven's Brothel (Merc)
0 - The Seven's Brothel (Merc)
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Philip Jones
Gallente
Bridgeburners 9TH Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.07 05:45:00 -
[104]
Retribution Lvl 3
Conductive Polymer: 3
Contaminated Lorentz Fluid: 2
Malfunctioning Shield Emitter: 4
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Faighn Marron
Caldari
Jol-Nar Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.07 08:04:00 -
[105]
As far as Level 2s (in a new region and working my way back up to L3s) I had 13 from the score, and 7 from Avenge A Fallen Comrade. Also none from Drone Infest. Will report further tomorrow.
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Philip Jones
Gallente
Bridgeburners 9TH Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.07 09:58:00 -
[106]
Mordus Headhunters Lvl 3 - Nothing
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Shirow Miyazaki
Amarr
Hunter Military Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.07 10:34:00 -
[107]
So is it fair to assume that salvaging missions below level 3 is a waste of time? i've been doing level 2's for a bit, and got absolutely nothing out of them, so should i go do level 3's to get any kind of salvaged stuff?
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Luke Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:34:00 -
[108]
Blockade lvl 2 vs Gurista. Salvage lvl 3 2 salvagers. 23 mixed items - shield emitters plus a few circuits
Eliminate pirate nuisance lvl 2 vs Sansha. Salvage lvl 3 2 salvagers. 9 items - contaminited nanites and defective current pumps.
I have salvaged earlier missions and not kept such a close score, however I do agree that:
a) belt type rats ie Sansha, Gurista, blood raider, angel and serpentis give salvage in missions.
b) mercs, faction navies, drone and named mission villians ("the thief" "shadow") and their escorts/goons do not give salvage. However I do find they give slightly better loot.
Salvage seems to be faction specific and logical.
Sanshas give armour, nanites and laser components.
Guristas seem to give missile and shiled components.
Both give circuits but in smaller numbers, Gurista seem to be slightly more generous with circuits than sansha but his might be due to luck as the number of missions is small.
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Frug
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.07 18:32:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Frug on 07/12/2006 18:45:17
Bumping. This topic should be stickied it's so useful.
Had I known all of mordus headhunters would have no salvage loot at all, i wouldn't have wasted 20 minutes trying to salvage all those damn wrecks.
Edit: Just for posterity:
Duo of Death - 2 items.
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Tratok Aran
Alternative Technologies
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Posted - 2006.12.07 20:09:00 -
[110]
Ritualist Raids (4 lvl)
28 items
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Zaiyo Modi
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Posted - 2006.12.16 09:05:00 -
[111]
Astrosurveying storyline mission: "Covering your tracks"
Mercenaries and a named BS, raven bs was the only thing that yielded components:
10 burned logic circuits
3 damaged artificial neural network
4 metal scraps
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Macmuelli
Gallente
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
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Posted - 2006.12.17 11:15:00 -
[112]
Mids of deathspace: last pocket of the mission gives some good salvage..
i m only a chef.... |
meesaw horneee
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Posted - 2006.12.17 11:32:00 -
[113]
EoM lvl 4
nada
lots of good loot though
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Kathyleen
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Posted - 2006.12.17 23:17:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Kathyleen on 17/12/2006 23:18:04
- error
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Vynida
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Posted - 2006.12.17 23:18:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Vynida on 17/12/2006 23:18:28
Mission:
The Blockade (Sansha) - lvl 4
The amount of ncps in this mission is divine.
Ship/Skills:
Ishtar: Tractor + Salvger + Salvaging skill level 4
Salvageables:
Armor Plates 52
Burned Logic Circuits 12
Charred Micro Circuit 21
Contaminated Nanite Compound 36
Defective Current Pump 29
Fried Interface Circuit 63
Tripped Power Circuit 44
Total: Alot (257)
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Hitmann2003
Minmatar
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.21 14:51:00 -
[116]
LVL4 The Mordus Head Hunters
---> No Slavage
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Firecrak
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Posted - 2007.01.21 16:01:00 -
[117]
Hit Overview > Ships > Click Ship Type on. Any wreck with Small/Medium/Large XXXX (faction name) Wreck...salvage it. Any Wreck that is WRECK...don't bother. Simple
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CCP Hammer
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Posted - 2007.01.21 21:38:00 -
[118]
Just an FYI, we're adding Salvage Materials to some mission NPCs in the Revelations 1.3 patch so you will need to recreate this list. That's bad news for the people writing the list but good news for all the salvagers out there.
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Mikal Drey
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Posted - 2007.01.22 08:13:00 -
[119]
Stop .. . Hammer Time :)
any hints on which NPC's will be getting salvage added. or will it be suprise time ?
Many Thanks
Mikal Drey
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CCP Fear
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Posted - 2007.01.22 11:33:00 -
[120]
As per my blog recently, almost 500 entities were missing salvage, and I have been adding it to them in the past weeks. And all those that are in these missions should be dropping salvage as of next patch. Thus this list will have to be recompiled after the patch, and I believe the number of missions on it will be drastically lower, if there will be any missions on the list at all. But definetly keep us posted on that after the patch.
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