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GizzyBoy
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Posted - 2015.07.16 03:20:23 -
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c6 space never had many nulls, often we would look for a c5 chain to find a null, I guess you guys got spoiled a bit to much with to much null availability.
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GizzyBoy
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Posted - 2015.07.19 12:14:04 -
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afkalt wrote:In true anecdotal manner, it's getting a LOT harder to get a decent chain out of our home, which has a null static.
Never used to have to go that far afield to find another null hole out somewhere useful, now it's a case of rolling like a fiend to get something usable.
My Idea of a decent chain is one with active people in it some vitals and instrumentals, possibly also a Hs ,
Any decent nulls where like a bonus. |
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Posted - 2015.07.21 10:34:55 -
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calaretu wrote:Seeing the reports over a period of time that n432 is nowhere to be found anymore is troubling. Maybe increase the amount of z142 instead ccp? That keeps the nerf for nullsec people but hurts c5 less.
And I have no illusion that lack of content make people search harder. It just makes them play less or move to a place where its easier accessible. Both can hurt wspace over all classes.
Found 2 n432's one was eol, the other one lead to an empty wh with everything eol but did have an out going null.
so yes they still are there, needs more data or more people to actually scan chains.
OK so in 1/2 hour found 4 x c5's in one half of a region
Scanned about 20 systems tonight.
2 null - c5's
1 c2/3 to null (was eol)
2 c5 > null's
But because randomness we need more data tbh.
not certain if null > wh / kspace is based on x holes per region or if its spread over all null systems etc. |
GizzyBoy
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Posted - 2015.07.22 06:10:14 -
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no null sec isnt safer at all, what with the poliferation in blops and what not.
Id rather say c5 is even safer than null to rat in tbh. |
GizzyBoy
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Posted - 2015.07.22 13:50:26 -
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Scanned another 50 null systems,
plenty n432's I think what's happening is more people live in less systems and so they dont bother scanning outside there area, and thus the ones that do spawn dont open up till they are eol.
I can say most of the wh's that I jumped into from null, (about 15) all but 1 was occupied in any form.
I demand more people in wh's so I can dunk them from null!
It could be less farmers or people are active in wh's, so just like sites desirable wh types are piling up some where.
(ie all the empty systems like black holes)
For my stats im scanning from null from just one region mostly.
Whilst I whore all the Data & relic's.
Personally it feels about right x wh's per null system, if you where scanning from null you'd want to find more combats. data & relics than wh's, it seemed before the patch I can almost gaurenty no place is null was more than 5 gate/ wh jumps to hs
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GizzyBoy
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Posted - 2015.07.23 15:48:10 -
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scanned half another region before DT, about 50 systems
1 null - c6 went to a shattered system.
5 null > c5's
1 null > LS
4 null > c1-c3
2 null - nulls
about 10 K162
4 of which where from C5 space
Half the null - wspace where un initiated when I warped in.
which leads me to conclude as far as null - Wspace wh's go Null sec basicly is not scanning as much or completely ignoring wh's
Based on my logs,
Averaging 1 in 5 systems having a WH, one in 20 might have 2 wh's
And I can say the residents arnt rolling incoming our out going connections because there dosnt really appear to be any, Or no one is scanning and jumping into wh's
Id need some help to scan a whole region and get a snap shot at a specific time of day
(basicly autz) because its
a) less active
b) No one really rolls things around then.
If you get the locals all riled up, dont be ducking down any dead end pipes expecting to escape out of a random wh, You may just not find an easy way out..
I actually feel this is roughly the right level of null - w space currently.
and to a certain extent if null wants to engage in Wspace brawls there initiative to open connections should be a part of the equation.
People might splurge about how people are super safe in null or what ever, But that's frankly bull Sh1t. any one can literally camp what ever system they want in k-space when ever they want, with nearly what ever ship type or fleet comp they desire.
To get to specific w-space systems Is not impossible, But its many orders of magnitude higher and harder.
Thoughts,
I wish I had scanned some regions/ The same region in null prior to the changes so I could get some baselines prior to changes, all I have to go on is some randoms splurging its harder, but with no hard numbers to back that up. or what harder even constitutes in numbers of connections wise.
(Most groups I talked to dont trust certain scanning system providers) and are well aware of whom and who both uses and owns them.
CCP really needs to make an effort to build or accommodate an in-game sig / mapping bm sharing tool as a trusted party to hosting said data in some secure kind of way that only lets the right people on a alliance / coalition level access it.
Dank isk per hour!
Also I made roughly 4 bill in null doing data /relics in a bout 5 hours of work scanning things I would be scanning anyway but basicly ignoring in w sauce.
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GizzyBoy
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Posted - 2015.07.25 11:53:53 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:GizzyBoy wrote:
People might splurge about how people are super safe in null or what ever, But that's frankly bull Sh1t. any one can literally camp what ever system they want in k-space when ever they want, with nearly what ever ship type or fleet comp they desire.
no, if something is bull**** then its your statement. Removing a source of threat like in case of nerfed C5 spawn rates and "WH highway" means in other words areas of space become safER. Because if you would remove something, which doesnt affect safety, wouldnt be a threat, which you really cant say to C5 pre-nerf. Camping systems with whatever ships is a completely unrelated case. Its like you were saying suicide ganking isnt a threat for highsec player corps, because well you could always wardec player corps and exert thread to those corps. Wardecs are nice and you always can do it, however it doesnt mean suicide ganking isnt a thing and could be actually removed.
I scanned a whole region multiple times nearly uncontested, my only real threat where the people who didn't live in the region camping choke points.
There was no lack of incoming or outgoing wh's.
null to j-space where almost never initiated untill I landed.
If anything weekends seem to have more wh's in general than weekdays.
once your in null sec your ability to move around apart from a few choke points is pretty much uncontested.
and apart from a few groups like up in deklan, you can pretty much travel where you please.
Thus I would have to aggre with you, Null sec has never been safer for roamers |
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Posted - 2015.07.27 02:12:31 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:I dont know how the f*** one can argue that the nerf doesnt improve 0.0 security as it was the whole reason for the nerf actually, to start with. No you shouldnt gank carriers in ratting areas, no you shouldnt attack people or 3rd party fight through wormholes on the other side of the map.
Your implying it could ever really be safe and it cant, and it most certainly isn't.
but show me where ratting carriers are no longer being killed, and roaming gangs are not operating.
you know with some kind of substantiate numbers to back up your statement not your "feels".
by observation, this weekend i watched nearly every major wh group pass through one of the regions i was scanning.
sky fighters,
sibas faye and co,
ssc
hk
chris mas solo,
3 other random groups from wh's I never herd of before.
hell even a w-space guy roaming null for data sites
All passing through one or two regions within an hour or 2 of each other.
things they didn't seem to do, shoot each other even tho they more or less are the perfect gangs to engage each other with. |
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