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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:30:15 -
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I thought about it, how could you integrade somekind of fleet system to assure everybody can join a fleet fast and easy with random people
it needs to use the basic priciple of a matchmaking system that is used for other games as well
the idea is the following, create 5-10 hubs (systems) in the game where you can enter a fleetmaking queue
it would work like this, I decide to put together a random fleet, so i enter as FC, other players are matched to my fleet automatically over the fleetmaking system when they decided to join, the queue allocates the players into my fleet, done, the fleet is ready
not bullshit teamspeak no nothing everybody who wants to go into a random fleet just uses this fleet system in those 5-10 stations all over new eden (communication done with special UI buttons, read further below)
i would suggest 5 in highsec 5 in nullsec
additional things could be added, open fleets where players can join easy if they see them flyby, for safety reason fleetmembers in those special fleets should not be able to shoot eachother, including a timer when they leave the fleet
communication could happen over eve voice or simple UI buttons that everybody sees, primary, warpto, help, bubbleup, Icons could popup over the fleetmember when you press one of the Buttons
many people get tired of social interaction because there is just too much happening, with this system you still could join some fun fleets without the social hickups and enjoy the game
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Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:34:50 -
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Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong? |

Jeanne Tivianne
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:36:27 -
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This thread is going places.
No WoW-style raids/grouping please. |

Zieg Olexia
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:37:11 -
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This. Isn't. World Of Warcraft. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:38:47 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong?
nothing, basic communication should be done over UI Buttons, ist also more a fun approach to fleetup, for sure People in Teams would be better but for randoms it would be a fun way to just join a fleet and see what happens
the system could create some mass fleets easy, pretty sure it would work, random people are put together in other games as well, it would not be tactically the best Team for sure but, fun along the way is what counts
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Etara Silverblade
Morex Group Inc. Haven.
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:39:07 -
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What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.
Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/ |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:41:12 -
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does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up
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Zieg Olexia
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:42:24 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong? nothing, basic communication should be done over UI Buttons, ist also more a fun approach to fleetup, for sure People in Teams would be better but for randoms it would be a fun way to just join a fleet and see what happens the system could create some mass fleets easy, pretty sure it would work, random people are put together in other games as well, it would not be tactically the best Team for sure but, fun along the way is what counts
Sure. Lets do 5v5 setups. We'll have instance based battlegrounds, Just like WoW. And the winners get officer mod rewards!
pleaseburninthefierydepthsofhell. |

Lan Wang
V I R I I
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:43:52 -
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Harry Forever wrote:does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up
gawd how easy do you want it? i doubt 90% of the gamers think its too complicated, more like 1.3%...
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:45:45 -
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We don't want instant gratification bottomfeeders around. We already have those from reddit infecting the game. More features for these zombies will only make the game worse, because they will demand more and more instant gratification without ever really playing the game.
TSHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rogue AI
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:47:49 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong?
Who cares if it goes wrong? At least they might have some fun in the process. |

Brutus Utama
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Phoenix Company Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:48:27 -
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ok....
Spectre Fleet.....
same idea but implemented better. |

Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:49:26 -
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Pretty sure what your asking for is the fleet finder window.
Just remember this is Eve though, not Wow, so you don't get to be all safe with you're 'can't shoot each other' business. And it's a sandbox so don't expect them to setup little battle arenas for you, or fleet comps, or 'matchmaking', or any other guided BS.
Don't come crying to me when you get suicide ganked from joining that open 'mining' fleet though. |

Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:49:28 -
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Rogue AI wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong? Who cares if it goes wrong? At least they might have some fun in the process. Hi Al! Fun is not the centerpoint of all activity, even if there are many zombies out there who have nothing but that left in their lives. Instant gratification is a drug and these people are addicts, with all the consequences it has.
TSHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Etara Silverblade
Morex Group Inc. Haven.
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:49:39 -
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Harry Forever wrote:does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up
Not only would I not want to fly with someone who can't figure out how to join a fleet, I don't think I want to play in the same MMO with them. Eve is a complex game, you need to learn a lot to have maximum fun and if you can't be bothered then leave; go play WoW. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:50:57 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Harry Forever wrote:does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up gawd how easy do you want it? i doubt 90% of the gamers think its too complicated, more like 1.3%... matchmaking is just too easy and teaches you nothing about the game, if you think joining a fleet is too complicated i dread to see you fit a ship
everything a computer can do for you should not be done by humans anymore, we made computers to do stuff so we can concentrate on other things... organizing fleets and stuff is just boring repetitive, a fleetmaking system could do it for you much better
sometimes it feels you guys like to do boring stuff and do not want a computer or program to handle those things, are you worried your mind has to concentrate on more important matters when the computer takes care of the easy stuff?
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Zieg Olexia
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:54:11 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Harry Forever wrote:does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up gawd how easy do you want it? i doubt 90% of the gamers think its too complicated, more like 1.3%... matchmaking is just too easy and teaches you nothing about the game, if you think joining a fleet is too complicated i dread to see you fit a ship everything a computer can do for you should not be done by humans anymore, we made computers to do stuff so we can concentrate on other things... organizing fleets and stuff is just boring repetitive, a fleetmaking system could do it for you much better sometimes it feels you guys like to do boring stuff and do not want a computer or program to handle those things, are you worried your mind has to concentrate on more important matters when the computer takes care of the easy stuff?
I can't even ******* take you seriously anymore. |

Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:54:28 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong? nothing, basic communication should be done over UI Buttons, ist also more a fun approach to fleetup, for sure People in Teams would be better but for randoms it would be a fun way to just join a fleet and see what happens the system could create some mass fleets easy, pretty sure it would work, random people are put together in other games as well, it would not be tactically the best Team for sure but, fun along the way is what counts
Fleet commander wants fast ships, dudes bring dual-plated Megathrons. Fleet commander wants armor tank, dudes bring shield tank. That is of course, if there even is an FC, because nobody will want to FC this clusterfuck of random dudes. In the same vein, nobody ever will bring boosts or logistics, because the fleet will be mixed range, mixed prop, mixed tank kitchensink anyway. Apart from that ... Spies, Cyno Alts, even just a single Dictor could **** up a fleet real bad.I think it could be hilarious for a while, but I don't think it would get used much after the first few welps. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:57:24 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:We don't want instant gratification bottomfeeders around. We already have those from reddit infecting the game. More features for these zombies will only make the game worse, because they will demand more and more instant gratification without ever really playing the game.
so you don't like to use a computer because it makes stuff easier for you? you like to keep it complicated on the easy things so you don't need to think about the complicated matters at hand... got it
my idea is to get rid of boring stuff, to be able to concentrate on the gameplay
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Lan Wang
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:58:22 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Harry Forever wrote:does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up gawd how easy do you want it? i doubt 90% of the gamers think its too complicated, more like 1.3%... matchmaking is just too easy and teaches you nothing about the game, if you think joining a fleet is too complicated i dread to see you fit a ship everything a computer can do for you should not be done by humans anymore, we made computers to do stuff so we can concentrate on other things... organizing fleets and stuff is just boring repetitive, a fleetmaking system could do it for you much better sometimes it feels you guys like to do boring stuff and do not want a computer or program to handle those things, are you worried your mind has to concentrate on more important matters when the computer takes care of the easy stuff?
making a fleet isnt boring, suppose you want the system to fc for you too, maybe you want the system to pick primaries and shoot also, its never ending and before you kow it you are afk eve'ing, no we dont need the computer making everything easier for people, people still need to do something otherwise its all pointless
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Jim Hazard
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:59:03 -
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Harry Forever wrote:
everything a computer can do for you should not be done by humans anymore.....
So basically we should just pay an account and our chars are controlled by an AI while we just sit back and watch.
- Computer AI would be well capable of mining. - AIs would be able to sell stuff. - Porgrams can be written for Scam contracts and AIs could be written to fall for those scams once in a while. - AIs would be able to fly around running missions or do any other form of ISK grinding. ........
Basically you are saying we should not make any input at all because a computerprogram could as well just handle it.
And all just because you are too lazy to do stuff yourself.
Welcome to BOT - Online! The only game in the world you do not need to play yourself. |

Rogue AI
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:59:38 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Hi Al! Fun is not the centerpoint of all activity, even if there are many zombies out there who have nothing but that left in their lives. Instant gratification is a drug and these people are addicts, with all the consequences it has.
Fun is the point of a game. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:09:08 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong? nothing, basic communication should be done over UI Buttons, ist also more a fun approach to fleetup, for sure People in Teams would be better but for randoms it would be a fun way to just join a fleet and see what happens the system could create some mass fleets easy, pretty sure it would work, random people are put together in other games as well, it would not be tactically the best Team for sure but, fun along the way is what counts Fleet commander wants fast ships, dudes bring dual-plated Megathrons. Fleet commander wants armor tank, dudes bring shield tank. That is of course, if there even is an FC, because nobody will want to FC this clusterfuck of random dudes. In the same vein, nobody ever will bring boosts or logistics, because the fleet will be mixed range, mixed prop, mixed tank kitchensink anyway. Apart from that ... Spies, Cyno Alts, even just a single Dictor could **** up a fleet real bad.I think it could be hilarious for a while, but I don't think it would get used much after the first few welps.
I don't Need a perfect fleet to have some fun, going out there with just 10 random People will still get me some kills at the end, sure when we run into an alliance fleet we would die but that happens... its more a fun Approach for fleets not to match alliances and stuff, find easyt targets and have fun thats all
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:13:55 -
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Rogue AI wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Hi Al! Fun is not the centerpoint of all activity, even if there are many zombies out there who have nothing but that left in their lives. Instant gratification is a drug and these people are addicts, with all the consequences it has. Fun is the point of a game. Fun is all that too many people have left in their lifes. Fun is becoming the centerpoint of attention, at the expense of much more satisfying feelings.No, fun is not the point of a game.Play Go once in a while. Or Space Invaders. Feeling prpud of beating a game beats shallow fun of succeeding any time.
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Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
189
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:17:49 -
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Harry Forever wrote:I don't Need a perfect fleet to have some fun, going out there with just 10 random People will still get me some kills at the end, sure when we run into an alliance fleet we would die but that happens... its more a fun Approach for fleets not to match alliances and stuff, find easyt targets and have fun thats all
That is very true. However, 10 people, half of which are only here to backstab the others, that aren't even willing to talk to each other are most likely to kill nothing, but themselves, which - admittedly - is content too. But nobody in their right mind would want to be part of this. I think people would stick to the NPSI communities - most people in Eve aren't as socially inept as one might expect them to be. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:18:47 -
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Jim Hazard wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
everything a computer can do for you should not be done by humans anymore.....
So basically we should just pay an account and our chars are controlled by an AI while we just sit back and watch. - Computer AI would be well capable of mining. - AIs would be able to sell stuff. - Porgrams can be written for Scam contracts and AIs could be written to fall for those scams once in a while. - AIs would be able to fly around running missions or do any other form of ISK grinding. ........ Basically you are saying we should not make any input at all because a computerprogram could as well just handle it. And all just because you are too lazy to do stuff yourself. Welcome to BOT - Online! The only game in the world you do not need to play yourself.
you are basically right, i would put a system in place where you can Input what your ship should do, maybe make it possible to program your ship, this would be much more interesting to work on that vs. sitting infront of a pc and looking at a mining cycle... however some brains prefer to look at the mining cycle vs. programming a ship
you like simple repetitive tasks, cool, this game is for you
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Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
189
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:19:29 -
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So, you don't like to play this game? |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:21:03 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I don't Need a perfect fleet to have some fun, going out there with just 10 random People will still get me some kills at the end, sure when we run into an alliance fleet we would die but that happens... its more a fun Approach for fleets not to match alliances and stuff, find easyt targets and have fun thats all That is very true. However, 10 people, half of which are only here to backstab the others, that aren't even willing to talk to each other are most likely to kill nothing, but themselves, which - admittedly - is content too. But nobody in their right mind would want to be part of this. I think people would stick to the NPSI communities - most people in Eve aren't as socially inept as one might expect them to be.
it works in all other games, it will work in this
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:22:14 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Jim Hazard wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
everything a computer can do for you should not be done by humans anymore.....
So basically we should just pay an account and our chars are controlled by an AI while we just sit back and watch. - Computer AI would be well capable of mining. - AIs would be able to sell stuff. - Porgrams can be written for Scam contracts and AIs could be written to fall for those scams once in a while. - AIs would be able to fly around running missions or do any other form of ISK grinding. ........ Basically you are saying we should not make any input at all because a computerprogram could as well just handle it. And all just because you are too lazy to do stuff yourself. Welcome to BOT - Online! The only game in the world you do not need to play yourself. you are basically right, i would put a system in place where you can Input what your ship should do, maybe make it possible to program your ship, this would be much more interesting to work on that vs. sitting infront of a pc and looking at a mining cycle... however some brains prefer to look at the mining cycle vs. programming a ship you like simple repetitive tasks, cool, this game is for you
you're being silly now
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Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:24:01 -
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I have an idea: Create a fleet, give it a descriptive name, make it open to everyone, put a fleet advert up and link it in jita local. Then tell us how it worked out. Better yet, record it and put it on youtube. |
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